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PickPocket
03-29-2011, 09:32 AM
There is a few ways people do this, each has his own tools and tricks.

What I'm looking for is a hand process (I don't own a lathe). Any special instructions, or technics you've learned that make this process work for you the best.

Please include products that you include in this process as well. Thanks guys!


Currently, what I've been taught:

Cut off old tip with (box cutter/razor knife/xacto).
Use rapid top sander to remove clinging bits of left over tip/glue
Select a new tip (closest to dia of shaft)
sand bottom of new tip flat
score/gouge tip with knife
Start small pilot cavity in center of tip
apply quick drying cement/epoxy to tip/ferrel evenly.
Secure with some type of tip press, until glue is dry
Remove tip securing device
Trim/Sand excess tip from ferrel (lap lathe: standard file, lap, rolling back and forth until even)
Shape tip to preference.

Can anyone make any suggestions, or give me advise or input?

NewStroke
03-29-2011, 09:34 AM
That's about how I used to do it.

EJmagnum186
03-29-2011, 09:44 AM
Once the tip is secured, I like to take a rubber mallet and spend a good 15 minutes LIGHTLY tapping the tip to get it to compress and break in while using a tip burnisher to keep it from mushrooming. Once I get it compressed THEN I will get to shaping it the way I want it. A little bit of spit on the edge by the ferrule will help set the shape. I just can't stand breaking in a new tip and jacking w/ shaping while I am playing and this helps a lot w/ that. Everything else looks right as far as I have always done tips.

Scott Lee
03-29-2011, 11:00 AM
PickPocket...People in the know do not use the tip clamp. They use a thick rubber band. The tip clamp can leave dings in your shaft.

Scott Lee
www.pooknowledge.com

There is a few ways people do this, each has his own tools and tricks.

What I'm looking for is a hand process (I don't own a lathe). Any special instructions, or technics you've learned that make this process work for you the best.

Please include products that you include in this process as well. Thanks guys!


Currently, what I've been taught:

Cut off old tip with (box cutter/razor knife/xacto).
Use rapid top sander to remove clinging bits of left over tip/glue
Select a new tip (closest to dia of shaft)
sand bottom of new tip flat
score/gouge tip with knife
Start small pilot cavity in center of tip
apply quick drying cement/epoxy to tip/ferrel evenly.
Secure with some type of tip press, until glue is dry
Remove tip securing device
Trim/Sand excess tip from ferrel (lap lathe: standard file, lap, rolling back and forth until even)
Shape tip to preference.

Can anyone make any suggestions, or give me advise or input?

Dead Crab
03-29-2011, 11:04 AM
If you use super glue gel, you do not need to clamp it.

Having a tool to bring the edges flush (Porper little shaver) is helpful.

Why so aggressive with the undersurface of the tip?

DogsPlayingPool
03-29-2011, 11:08 AM
Once the tip is secured, I like to take a rubber mallet and spend a good 15 minutes LIGHTLY tapping the tip to get it to compress and break in while using a tip burnisher to keep it from mushrooming. Once I get it compressed THEN I will get to shaping it the way I want it. A little bit of spit on the edge by the ferrule will help set the shape. I just can't stand breaking in a new tip and jacking w/ shaping while I am playing and this helps a lot w/ that. Everything else looks right as far as I have always done tips.

Just curious, but why not do the mallet tapping to compress the tip prior to putting it on the shaft or compress it in a vise before installing?

EJmagnum186
03-29-2011, 11:16 AM
Don't see why you couldn't use a vise for that before you put the tip on and I have heard of plenty of people who soak and vise tips before putting them on. Just never done it that way. Like another poster said use thick rubber bands not a clamp. Good luck, and hope it helps.

Eric.
03-29-2011, 11:22 AM
Step 1 - Decide what tip you want

Step 2 - take cue to local, reputable repair guy

Step 3 - pay him the $10 he charges to do it right


Eric

NewStroke
03-29-2011, 11:49 AM
For my player:

Unscrew old tip.
Screw on new tip.

Flawless ;)

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 12:34 PM
Are you saying the tweeten tip clamp (that uses the rubberband) is not good for it?

wontonny
03-29-2011, 12:35 PM
http://vimeo.com/7055733

This is what I followed when I did it my first time. It's in parts so check all the other videos from the same user.

What's most important is you make sure the ferrule is perfectly flat. Check it with a metal ruler. Do not glue the tip on until it is.

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 12:39 PM
As in soaking in water, glue, something else?! Then pressing them, until dry. Can someone enlighten me about this process please?

joelpope
03-29-2011, 12:40 PM
Are you saying the tweeten tip clamp (that uses the rubberband) is not good for it?
it is not good... it will ding your shaft

cut a thick rubber band so it is a long strip, pull down both "legs to put pressure on the tip and then take one leg and wrap it around the shaft & other leg and then tuck it in between the tip and where you wrapped it... holds perfectly

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 12:44 PM
If you use super glue gel, you do not need to clamp it.

Having a tool to bring the edges flush (Porper little shaver) is helpful.

Why so aggressive with the undersurface of the tip?

The reason I was given to do this, is so the glue "roots" better, and holds the tip on better. Maybe for people that break hard?.. I'm not 100% sure. I posted this because I want to learn from others experience.

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 12:46 PM
it is not good... it will ding your shaft

cut a thick rubber band so it is a long strip, pull down both "legs to put pressure on the tip and then take one leg and wrap it around the shaft & other leg and then tuck it in between the tip and where you wrapped it... holds perfectly

Thank you!

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 12:52 PM
Rapid cue top sander Yes/No?
Porper lil shaver Yes/No?
Thick rubberband
Super glue gel? (any other recommends) will it stain/discolor the ferrel?
Regular file
Razor knife

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 01:01 PM
Would this be the same process for any regular tip?

Is there anything to add/take away from for layered tips?

What about phenolic?

billiardshot
03-29-2011, 01:08 PM
An Asian video site of How to retip and other how to in billiard. 2 pages of videos [ just click to see video


http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnailList.nhn%3FblogId%3Dcho4306%26categor yNo%3D33%26currentPage%3D1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhjqCiVa9wYtXYDFvA2UXIQydv6SdA

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnailList.nhn%3FblogId%3Dcho4306%26categor yNo%3D33%26currentPage%3D2&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhhcfqw8AuYzH5IxpiW9MO7MjgYqLQ

See how he remove old tip ;click link below to view video:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http://blog.naver.com/PostThumbnailView.nhn%3FblogId%3Dcho4306%26logNo%3 D120072713358%26categoryNo%3D33%26parentCategoryNo %3D&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhgzcto-KXNjYPZhmQclnX_v-dzAjg

Scaramouche
03-29-2011, 01:19 PM
http://www.handmadecues.com/info/30-retipping.htm

I put tape around the ferrule to prevent any glue from getting on the shaft.

I use 10 inch mill bastard file instead of sandpaper.

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 02:20 PM
Does anyone have any experience with this?
http://www.cuesight.com/ncsmpc.htmlgT

DogsPlayingPool
03-29-2011, 02:55 PM
Does anyone have any experience with this?
http://www.cuesight.com/ncsmpc.htmlgT

That link just sends me to the home page.

PickPocket
03-29-2011, 03:08 PM
That link just sends me to the home page.

Sorry. I didn't link that right, but the product is: Nivecraft Pocket Lathe Combo Pocket Pack

DeepBanks
03-29-2011, 03:13 PM
Step 1 - Decide what tip you want

Step 2 - take cue to local, reputable repair guy

Step 3 - pay him the $10 he charges to do it right


Eric

Don't take on a job you're not equipped to do . . . per Tim The Toolman.

Cueball1
03-29-2011, 03:29 PM
Here is a link to a youtube video that may help. :thumbup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX2pKoHe9Y0

I will also add Investing in a Porper Big Shaver