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Club Billiards
05-28-2011, 08:46 PM
I want to share some pictures of some work we did recently for a good friend, Tommy-D.

He has a Gold Crown 1-2 that was set up by some local hacks.

The slate was not level or flush, there was missing hardware, the cloth was not on very tight and was cut in poorly in the pockets, and the rubber and facings were trimmed badly.

Here are some BEFORE pictures to show a little of what we had to deal with.

All of the rails were covered pretty much like this:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/Before/1-Before-Clothcorner.jpg

The facings were all stacked to tighten the pockets. Stacking however will make the pockets play dead, and when you trim them like this, the look terrible and will show through the cloth.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/Before/2-Before-CornerFacings.jpg

How can you get a clean point on the rail when your facings look like this?

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/Before/3-Before-Sidefacings.jpg

The pocket work on the slate all looked similar to this:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Side-Before.jpg

Club Billiards
05-28-2011, 08:55 PM
On to the "DURING" pictures:

Here is what the rails looked like with the cloth, facings and rubber stripped down:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/During/5-Barerail-before.jpg

And here is what they look like after we recalibrated the face of the rail, the subrail height, and re-cut all the corners to correct them to consistent angles and allow the rails to accept Diamond Black K-55 profile rubber.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/During/6-Calibratedrail.jpg

We then build subrail extensions to CORRECTLY tighten the pockets without stacking shims:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/During/8-Extensionstrimmed.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/During/9-Trimmedsideextension.jpg

Once the rubber was on, we sanded down the ends to match up flush to the new 141 degree corners and 102 degree sides.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/During/14-Sandedrubber2.jpg

We then used SINGLE 3/16" neoprene facings from Diamond.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/During/20-Sandedfacing2.jpg

Club Billiards
05-28-2011, 09:05 PM
Once the recalibration and extension work was done, all of the rails were covered in Tournament Blue Simonis 860 HR

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/21-Finishedheadrail.jpg

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/22-Railsdone.jpg

Can you tell any difference between the BEFORE and the AFTER? ;)

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/23-Clothcorners-after.jpg

No more stretch shadows from improperly installed Simonis:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/24-Nostretchshadows.jpg

Missing corner brackets and miscellaneous hardware were replaced

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/25-Newbracket.jpg

Pockets trimmed in neatly with no puckers, air gaps, or exposed slits or staples:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/26-Cornerpocketcuffs.jpg

Table now rolls great with no seams in the slate, no roll-offs and no loose parts on the table!

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/27-Finishedtable.jpg

We got the pockets tightened up to 4-1/2" corners and 5" sides at specs comparable to modern tournament standards.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/drums666/Absolute%20Billiard%20Service/Tom%20D/After/28-TIGHTCorners.jpg

Another satisfied customer!

Thanks, Tom! When we get a day off, we'll take you up on that dinner!!! ;)

ChazL
05-29-2011, 12:42 AM
What a difference! You do very nice work, Josh.

peter_gunn
05-29-2011, 05:42 AM
How much time is you need to complete this work for 1 table?

realkingcobra
05-29-2011, 06:27 AM
Once the recalibration and extension work was done, all of the rails were covered in Tournament Blue Simonis 860 HR


Can you tell any difference between the BEFORE and the AFTER? ;)


No more stretch shadows from improperly installed Simonis:


Missing corner brackets and miscellaneous hardware were replaced


Pockets trimmed in neatly with no puckers, air gaps, or exposed slits or staples:


Table now rolls great with no seams in the slate, no roll-offs and no loose parts on the table!


We got the pockets tightened up to 4-1/2" corners and 5" sides at specs comparable to modern tournament standards.


Another satisfied customer!

Thanks, Tom! When we get a day off, we'll take you up on that dinner!!! ;)

You're a rising star Josh. It's amazing how much your work has changed since back at the seminar I held in Alsip, IL.;)

Glen

ArizonaPete
05-29-2011, 07:00 AM
Thanks for taking the time to post those pics. You did an excellent job on that table. Those pockets look amazing.

JZMechanix
05-29-2011, 07:12 AM
Great work Josh! Isn't it fun turning an ugly duckling into a beauty queen? :thumbup:

TX Poolnut
05-29-2011, 07:18 AM
So when are you coming to Houston? I've got a 9' table that needs some love.

poolfitkids
05-29-2011, 07:20 AM
So when are you coming to Houston? I've got a 9' table that needs some love.

Damn, sweet looking work!

Fatboy
05-29-2011, 07:27 AM
can i tell the difference? yeah the first one was green, the second one is blue.:grin-square:


nice work,

best
eric

RackemBilliards
05-29-2011, 07:33 AM
Beautiful job. It's nice to see all these old Gold Crowns getting a new life and ending up better than new.

Club Billiards
05-29-2011, 07:41 AM
Great work Josh! Isn't it fun turning an ugly duckling into a beauty queen? :thumbup:

It's a blast! I honestly get burnt out easily on the routine non-player tables where they just want it slapped together and don't care how it plays. I'm still going to put the same work into getting the table together right, but there are some people that wouldn't know the difference, or care if I did.

I love doing tables like this where you run into challenges and find ways to fix problems, and in the end, the player knows the difference and appreciates it.

Club Billiards
05-29-2011, 07:42 AM
You're a rising star Josh. It's amazing how much your work has changed since back at the seminar I held in Alsip, IL.;)

Glen

We've learned so much since Alsip, and are still trying to learn more every day. Thanks a TON for everything you've taught us.

Next stop, whole subrail replacements!

ISW
05-29-2011, 06:10 PM
What great work! This is what I was looking for with my table and ended up getting hack work done. If you are ever in the Nor Cal area for work I need my table redone like this.

TheDriz
05-29-2011, 08:06 PM
I am"The Driz" on AZ forums and also the owner of the Gold Crown. Josh is a good friend and a great mechanic , however , he has a hard time bragging even when he should. Not wanting to bore everyone , but still wanting to tell the rest of the story , here it is. What Josh neglected to include in his description of the job was that the table was missing a "Gold Crown corner cap bracket". Josh made calls to table mechanics in the Dayton,Ohio area, but had no luck finding one. Josh then reached out to the AZ Table Mechanics Forum with a post on 4-4-11. In a post on 4-17-11 John (Scruffy 1 ) from Classic Billiard Service sent us the missing part at what Josh described as a "great price ". A big thanks to Scruffy 1 !! Sorry for getting wordy. As you can see by the pictures , the work by Josh and Don was first class. The extra effort was really what made the whole job extra special .

Oh, by the way , everyone who has seen the table thinks it looks great,until they play on it. Then they all say it plays way better than it looks.

That is my opinion also , but I am obviously more than a little predjudiced !!

Best of luck in Vegas at the VNEA tournament.

Tom Driscoll , cue repairman at Airway Billiards , Dayton ,Ohio

Club Billiards
05-29-2011, 09:09 PM
I am"The Driz" on AZ forums and also the owner of the Gold Crown. Josh is a good friend and a great mechanic , however , he has a hard time bragging even when he should. Not wanting to bore everyone , but still wanting to tell the rest of the story , here it is. What Josh neglected to include in his description of the job was that the table was missing a "Gold Crown corner cap bracket". Josh made calls to table mechanics in the Dayton,Ohio area, but had no luck finding one. Josh then reached out to the AZ Table Mechanics Forum with a post on 4-4-11. In a post on 4-17-11 John (Scruffy 1 ) from Classic Billiard Service sent us the missing part at what Josh described as a "great price ". A big thanks to Scruffy 1 !! Sorry for getting wordy. As you can see by the pictures , the work by Josh and Don was first class. The extra effort was really what made the whole job extra special .

Oh, by the way , everyone who has seen the table thinks it looks great,until they play on it. Then they all say it plays way better than it looks.

That is my opinion also , but I am obviously more than a little predjudiced !!

Best of luck in Vegas at the VNEA tournament.

Tom Driscoll , cue repairman at Airway Billiards , Dayton ,Ohio

Thanks, Tom. Glad you're enjoying the table! John definitely does deserve credit for being able to hook me up with some hard to find parts!

I'm definitely looking forward to the VNEA in Vegas. I always have a blast out there. We'll meet up with you when I get back.

Thanks, Tom!

Itsnotme
05-29-2011, 09:19 PM
That's a work of art... You're a skilled craftsman. :bow-down: