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Evnflo
06-02-2011, 10:38 PM
I was just wondering what the general consensus is on the subject. I am having a cue made with 3-8x11 and wondering how that is

cuesmith
06-02-2011, 10:47 PM
I was just wondering what the general consensus is on the subject. I am having a cue made with 3-8x11 and wondering how that is

That's very subjective. Personally I like the Radial Pins but the 3/8 x 11 is also a great pin. It's hard to find fault with any of them. They all tighten the shaft to the butt which is all that's expected of them. About the only one I actually dislike is the Uni-Lock quick connect. It's just an overpriced gimmick that tends to loosen up in play and sometimes if it gets even the smallest amount dirt in the connection it can lock up.

Secaucus Fats
06-02-2011, 11:15 PM
My favorite is the Uni-Loc Radial joint. It is solid, screws directly into wood for that nice wood to wood feeling, and it stays tight and buzz free. It's available in
aluminum, brass, stainless steel, and titanium, the choice of material used depends on the balance (forward or rear-weighted) desired. Having said that, 3/8x11 and 3/8x10 joints are also excellent choices.

BTW, I agree with Cuesmith about the Uni-Loc quick release joint. It tends to get loose. That's distracting and doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence.

JoeyInCali
06-02-2011, 11:18 PM
Jamaicans are the best .


Radials are my favorite outside of the Jamaicans.

cyrex
06-02-2011, 11:57 PM
I like a 5/16x14 Stainless Steel joint myself.
But you can't go wrong with big pin 3/8x11 or Radials at all. I'm sure you'll be very happy with your choice.


btw.. you must be a Pearl Jam fan. My friend's license plate on his 67' Mustang Fastback was 'Evnflo'.

bazkook
06-02-2011, 11:58 PM
I used to play with a variety of steel joints with various pin sizes but IMO nothing I have tried so far hits better than a radial pin with a wood facing. Once again IMO,my Daytons hit better than any of the Pechauer,Schon,or Joss cues I have owned. But that's just my 2 cents. :grin:

Evnflo
06-03-2011, 01:45 AM
I like a 5/16x14 Stainless Steel joint myself.
But you can't go wrong with big pin 3/8x11 or Radials at all. I'm sure you'll be very happy with your choice.


btw.. you must be a Pearl Jam fan. My friend's license plate on his 67' Mustang Fastback was 'Evnflo'.

Lol. What state. That's my license plate in Alabama

Tony_in_MD
06-03-2011, 03:12 AM
I prefer any type of big pin. Although, I am sure that if blindfolded, I would not be able to tell the difference between any joint.

Tramp Steamer
06-03-2011, 04:38 AM
There is nothing wrong with any of them. The two most popular, I think, are the 5/16 inch-14 pin in a stainless steel joint, and the 3/8 inch-10 pin surrounded by wood. The latter is my current preference primarily because I like the feel of the wood to wood hit. :)

SLIM
06-03-2011, 04:48 AM
i prefer any type of big pin. Although, i am sure that if blindfolded, i would not be able to tell the difference between any joint.

thanks for saying this.

You will not find many people that will admit to it.

SLIM

pooljunkie75
06-03-2011, 06:55 AM
I was just wondering what the general consensus is on the subject. I am having a cue made with 3-8x11 and wondering how that is

There is no "best" answer because everyone is going to tell you something they prefer. All the materials used to build the cue come into play whether it is the material of the pin(stainless, titanium, G10 etc), the material of the joint collar(wood, Ivory, stainless, G10, phenolic etc), what kind of shaft, or the material used to construct the main body of the cue itself. The material used changes the "feel" or the "hit" of the cue. It is all in what feels good to you. I myself like a stainless flat faced 3/8x10 or 11 with an Ivory joint, but it doesn't mean you will. If it just the pin design you are after, they ALL screw the butt to the shaft effectively. If I were you, ask some people at the local hall/bar to let you hit a few balls with their cue and decide for yourself. Like said above. If you screwed it together with your eyes closed the only difference you may feel is with a Uni-loc just because it takes less turns...

Bruce

luke
06-03-2011, 07:11 AM
Great discussion. What joint transfers the most power to the cue ball?

Mitchxout
06-03-2011, 07:56 AM
I prefer wood to wood and despise ivory. Just my 2 centavos.

SpiderWebComm
06-03-2011, 08:08 AM
The Lambros Ultra Joint is the best joint in the world. Now, pins are subjective.

daniel
06-03-2011, 08:11 AM
The best joint is the one within walking distance

GADawg
06-03-2011, 08:28 AM
Of the cues I have now, my favorite is 3/8 x 11 brass pin with wood/wood joint face.

However, I have just ordered Chuck Starkey conversion with 1/2 x 8 wood pin. I am thinking that will be favorite of mine, but time will tell.

Standbykid
06-03-2011, 08:49 AM
Another vote for the flat faced radial pin.

TheNewSharkster
06-03-2011, 11:05 AM
I like the kind you smoke

Mr. Wiggles
06-03-2011, 12:52 PM
Jamaicans are the best .


Radials are my favorite outside of the Jamaicans.

That Jamaican stuff is okay if you can't get some Maui Wowie! My cue ball joint with 3/8 10 is working for me.

Island Drive
06-03-2011, 02:06 PM
Depending on the weight of the spliff, you may want more forward weight or not. Your balance point will also be affected, and different joint materials will also have different sounds. Its kinda like asking whats the best truck when you've never owned one, or is the blonde headed barbimbo better than the freckle faced, light skinned redhead that just walked in.
Best joint, Hard Times Bellflower CA or Romines in Milwaukee.:thumbup:

If you really want to know, call my next door neighbor/Pikes Peak Alternative Health Dispensary............the grow rooms are ripe.

Sealegs50
06-04-2011, 04:24 AM
The joint of my South West (3/8x11) has frozen on me ~5 times in the 20 years I've owned it. All but one time, I could break the fusion with the help of a friend. But one time, after about 2 weeks of failed attempts, I had to use a rubber strap oil filter wrench to separate them. Since then, every time I play with the cue for the first 5 minutes, I break the joint a crack and recinch it. It gives the shaft a chance to adjust to whatever temperature or humidity condition that was causing the problem. I haven't had the problem in the past 10 years or so. It's not enough of a problem to keep me from wanting another.

Greg

skip
06-04-2011, 04:52 AM
What is the best joint?? You need to just try different joints an pick one. Think of it like masturbation you know what works for you an fells good. Get it, now that wasn't too tough. Sorry sometimes I forget what site I'm on. :thumbup:

alstl
06-04-2011, 06:33 AM
To me the most important things are the joint centers the shaft on the butt and screws together tight.

BRKNRUN
06-04-2011, 06:39 AM
I don't have any personal experience...but this has to be the best joint. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmxcmpR1GQA&feature=related

joneser
06-04-2011, 07:34 AM
i have played with stainless 5/16 by 14 joint for ever i now play with a radial pin dont think theres any better aj

TX Poolnut
06-04-2011, 07:50 AM
wood to wood is my preference.

td873
06-04-2011, 08:35 AM
5/16x14 piloted with a wood pilot. Black, Mottey etc. Don't just settle for a brass pilot!

Here's the info I've been recylcing for years. This topic comes up every other year or so.


Many cue makers built 5/16X14 piloted joints with just a brass insert or a bit of wood sticking out, i.e., the pilot. These are not flat faced, since the face of the joint has a pilot (on the shaft) and a recess (on the butt)


On this shaft, the pilot is rounded, but there isn't alot of brass showing (but there is some wood showing)
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/Pin2_.jpg

On this shaft, more brass showing (but there is still some wood showing)
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/Pin4.jpg

On this shaft, there is almost NO wood showing, and only the pilot is showing
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/Pin1.jpg

A piloted joint:
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/Pin3_.jpg

Just the butt
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/pin5.jpg


Here are some examples of some different joints:

An example of radial flat faced joint:
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/radial_pin.jpg

http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/radial_flat.jpg


An example of 5/16X14 flat faced joint:
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/5_16_14_flat.jpg

An example of 3/8X10 flat faced joint:
http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/3_10_butt.jpg

http://td873.enteronline.net/Pins/3_8_10.jpg

-td

cyrex
06-04-2011, 09:02 AM
Lol. What state. That's my license plate in Alabama

California :D

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x197/sku1k/jaysmustang.jpg

Snapshot9
06-04-2011, 10:01 AM
why people ask what is the best joint? tip? shaft? cue? Because everyone is just going to answer what they shoot with is the best .... lol So the answers are biased at best.

td873
06-04-2011, 11:02 AM
^ Why do people respond to threads that pose legit questions with jibberish. Those responses don't further the conversation...

-td