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a_susie_cue
02-03-2006, 12:36 AM
What are some of the funniest and dumbest things you have ever seen take place while playing pool? What is the best hustle you have seen? One good move I recently saw was a guy make a solid on the break while playing 8 ball. He counted up the balls 2 times and then turned to his opponent and ask "what am I?" The sad thing is, he wasn't hustling. He had done this many times before. Later on that night, he kept covering his ears with his hands because the music was really loud. I was just curious to know what other silly stuff people have seen?

CaptainJR
02-03-2006, 06:23 AM
Back in the late 70's. I think 1978. I was teaching this hustle to a group. One of the gals in the group was just gorgeous. So while I was teaching this hustle I gave her a little extra attention. She was a natural too. So after the session was over I offered to get into some more advanced techniques. I really don't know if she new that I was hustling her while teaching her this hustle. I told her with these advanced hustling techniques she could go anywhere and hustle all she wanted. I showed her it was very uplifting. What I didn't tell her is how much I enjoyed lifting her up. You may have seen some of these lifts in the new show 'Dancing with the Stars'. If you have seen them you might understand why I enjoyed showing her the lifts.

This hustle isn't done much anymore, but back then if you could do it well, the results were great.:D


La La La "Do The Huslte"

Njhustler1
02-03-2006, 06:49 AM
Well since we're completely off track on the "pool" hustle topic already, I'd like to remind everybody of the ultimate move, created in 1964 by Frank Costanza, when he stopped short with his then girlfriend Estelle.

Donovan
02-03-2006, 06:59 AM
This guy showed up in a winter knit glove to shoot pool with (it was August BTW) and then used an open bridge. To this day I have no idea if he was trying to hustle for real, or just another mental case.

catscradle
02-03-2006, 07:38 AM
Back in the late 70's. I think 1978. I was teaching this hustle to a group. One of the gals in the group was just gorgeous. So while I was teaching this hustle I gave her a little extra attention. She was a natural too. So after the session was over I offered to get into some more advanced techniques. I really don't know if she new that I was hustling her while teaching her this hustle. I told her with these advanced hustling techniques she could go anywhere and hustle all she wanted. I showed her it was very uplifting. What I didn't tell her is how much I enjoyed lifting her up. You may have seen some of these lifts in the new show 'Dancing with the Stars'. If you have seen them you might understand why I enjoyed showing her the lifts.

This hustle isn't done much anymore, but back then if you could do it well, the results were great.:D


La La La "Do The Huslte"

Almost an LOL. :o

BTW: As an old hippie, I consider the advent of "The Hussle" as a very sad time in musical history. It marks the official start of disco and death of the glory days of rock 'n roll. I know you're of a different attitude about that and that's cool too. Some of my best friends were deceived by disco. ;)

Southpaw
02-03-2006, 08:51 AM
One of the funniest hustles I have ever seen happened in S.C. This guy walked into the pool room and went up to the owner and said that he had a Meucci cue he wanted to sell. He told the guy that he only wanted like $200 for the cue because he was busted and needed the cash. The owner agreed to buy the cue from the guy. Everyone around knew that the owner was a complete sucker on the pool table and this guy had gotten wind of it also. After the owner gives the guy the money for the cue, he asked the owner if he wanted to play some. The owner ofcourse said "yes"....Then the guy asks him "well....I dont have a cue, can I borrow the one I just sold you?" After a few hours, the guy had beaten the owner out of like $1200, bought his cue back for the $200 and profitted $1000....So basically the owner staked him to play against him! Too funny!

Southpaw

macguy
02-03-2006, 09:33 AM
What are some of the funniest and dumbest things you have ever seen take place while playing pool? What is the best hustle you have seen? One good move I recently saw was a guy make a solid on the break while playing 8 ball. He counted up the balls 2 times and then turned to his opponent and ask "what am I?" The sad thing is, he wasn't hustling. He had done this many times before. Later on that night, he kept covering his ears with his hands because the music was really loud. I was just curious to know what other silly stuff people have seen?

I saw a guy lose his business as a result of a pool game. They spent around 2 months setting the guy up, it was pretty elaborate. It worked and the guy goes off for it all, the cash was down and they got paid. The sad part is the guy committed suicide as a result of what happened to him. As they say, what goes around comes around though. The one of the three guys died shortly after that from some kind illness. One of the others was seriously hurt and his girlfriend killed in a car crash. He had bought the car with part of the money. The third guy, the actual player ended up in jail on some kind of drug charges and did 4 years. When he came out his game was gone, I haven't known him to ever play again like he once could. He was a nice guy and I am sure what happened with the suicide and all is what messed him up. They won a bunch though but never enjoyed much of it. The way it worked was the sucker always knew who they were and that they were hustlers. They even let him get involved in some small scores although he never knew he was their ultimate target. He was a greedy guy and it caught up with him.

Pete
02-03-2006, 10:20 AM
This guy showed up in a winter knit glove to shoot pool with (it was August BTW) and then used an open bridge. To this day I have no idea if he was trying to hustle for real, or just another mental case.

Was this in MA??? I know I guy Ed, and that's what he plays with. Hell of a nice guy as well. Also he plays in RI...


Pete

poolboy17
02-03-2006, 10:21 AM
This may fall more under the category of outright cheating but here goes anyway.

A team eight ball event. The player had run down the table and was about to shoot the eight ball...only problem is he still had one object ball on the table and didn't realize it! He's about to pull the trigger on the eight ball and then all of a sudden stands up, turns around and looks at his pager. One of his teammates had sent him the text message "Four Ball Stupid!" :eek:

They did get caught and I believe they were relieved of further play in the tournament.

lunchmoney
02-04-2006, 03:59 AM
Not really a hustle, but the other night I was playing some cheap nine ball and my opponent went to the rest room When he came back there were 7 balls on the table and I told him that he was the stripes. He bent over to shoot the nine in and in midstroke realized what was going on and tried to hold up but couldn't and miscued giving me ball in hand. He was laughing so hard afterwards that he had to take a break.


Lunchmoney

StormHotRod300
02-04-2006, 04:18 AM
Last Tuesday Jan31 I am playing in a 8ball tournament and this old guy i am playing in the first round gets to the table after i had missed, and is running balls like water, well after he finally misses i have no shot so i play safe. Well he gets to the table and just shoots the 8ball in.

And i look at him and said " you know you just let me win by shooting in the 8ball" he looks and was like oh i didnt realize it, i thought we was playing 9ball.

Me being confused as hell was like oh shyt i have a cake walk of a game now. Well the guy turns around and wins the next 3 games, and did break n runs on the last two, before i come outa my funk and win the next 3 games to win the match lol.

StormHotRod300
02-04-2006, 04:21 AM
I just remember'd another one that was done about a yr ago in a Fury Tournament.

I aint going to say names, but the guy comes to the tournament and he was told he cant play cuz he is too good. But the TD has a players meeting and during the whole meeting to see if everyone will allow him to play,,, he is weaving back n forth like he is drunk, cuz he had a rep for being drunk or on something alot, plus he had a beer in his hand too.

Well they let him play, and he turns around and starts to whip everyone left n right lol.

dave

Louis Ulrich
02-04-2006, 05:43 AM
I was on the road one time and had pretty much worn out my welcome in a town when one of the guys started throwing propositions around. I passed on his BS but he intrigued me when he said that he would take the can of coke that he just finished drinking, throw it at the wall and have it land on either the top or the bottom for a hundred. I was a bit slow on figuring out the gaff, but instead of biting, I told the guy that I would do it for two hundred. He then asked me if I was going to crush the can too. :rolleyes:

I guess it wasn't so obvious as I had later used this to win a buck or two here and there.

cuetechasaurus
02-04-2006, 06:16 AM
A few years ago my friend was playing a pretty strong player, getting the 8 ball from him for $250. They agreed to only play one set, because my friend had to leave in a little over an hour. My friend wins the set, takes the money, and asks the guy when he'd like to play again. The guy who lost got really angry and said that he wanted to play again right then and there. My friend said that he had to be somewhere at a certain time and he didn't have time, and since they had agreed to only play one set, the other guy would have to wait to play him some other time. The loser gets even more angry, telling my friend that he's got no gamble, and he calls my friend a nit. So my friend says to him, I'll tell you what, I'll flip you for another $250 then. The loser says ok, and my friend says 'heads I win, tails you lose', and the loser says ok. It lands tails, and says 'tails you lose', my friend takes the other $250 and leaves. The loser didn't realize that he had been scammed until the next day. Even when he saw my friend again, he was so humiliated that he couldn't even really get angry at him, and they became good friends to this day. When I heard that story I laughed my ass off for hours.

SirBanksALot
02-04-2006, 09:09 AM
A very well known 9 ball player (won national tournaments, featured on numerous Accu-stats videos etc etc) with pool as his only visible means of support would do well in Hollywood - acting, not playing pool. He has been known to shave his head, wear a toupee of some type, wear a fake mustache, etc etc etc in order to get a game. He has lived in the same metropolitan area for years and years and been doing the same routine for all those years. He'll take his act on the road and return to his home town and start all over again. I personally witnessed him get a game in the same room with the same guy a month later and not get found out. He shoots almost as well left handed as he does right handed and has even been known to use an accent. As he has gotten older - he's pretty much confined himself to just playing bar rooms.

sjm
02-04-2006, 09:27 AM
I once sweated a match in which a road player from Georgia went out of his way to make ignorant comments about the game to set up his action.

The best of his comments, in my opinion, was "I hate spot shots," but what made the comment so memorable was that he said it as he looked over a shot where the cue ball, not the object ball, was on the spot. I had never heard anobody call such a shot a spot shot before.

Another very strange comment he made to his opponent while dumping in the early portion of the session was "If my father were still alive, he'd whoop you at nine ball."

A convincing act, and he sure seemed like an idiot who thought he could play just because his deceased father was a good shooter. By the end of the evening, the only thing this guy looked like was a very talented road player, and he walked away with all the cash.

Late addition: I'm double checking some of this story with the friend of mine who was with me this night. I'm having some doubts that I've related it accurately. If there are verifiable additions or corrections, I'll update this post. Sorry for the cliffhanger ending.

Additional late addition: My friend does not recall the "I hate spot shits" line being used on this occasion. It appears I mixed up two different incidents. Thank to sixpack for pointing out to me that this might have been the case.

sjm
02-04-2006, 09:36 AM
Here's a hustle I know of but did not witness.

BCA Hall of Famer and living legend Dallas West told me that in the 1960's, he painted the wrap white on one of his cues, making it what he described as the ugliest cue anyone had ever seen. He'd take this cue with him to attract action. He said people would always ask why he had painted his cue, and his standard reply was that he liked a white wrap but couldn't afford to have his cue rewrapped.

As Dallas West put it, once you saw my cue, "you had to gamble with me!" It earned him several scores, by his account.

OldHasBeen
02-04-2006, 10:52 AM
For 20 years I traveled and hustled as a traveling ad salesman.
As I was doing my daily paperwork on the bar in late afternoon, I had a 3 piece cue in one of those cardboard box style cue cases. It was only about 20" long.
I would ask if there was anyone who played pool for money and within ½ hour there were plenty of offers.
Most of the time I was after a particular player/backer and would wait for him to ask me.
I'm sure it could and would still work today.

TY & GL, OHB

a_susie_cue
02-04-2006, 11:44 PM
I was watching a match recently at a league. A girl was playing a guy and boy was you her shirt opened down below her bra. Unfortunately for her, all this accomplished was free show to ALL the guys in the room as she got "busted" up and shut out.

maximillion
02-05-2006, 07:22 AM
A pool hall owner I used to know made his big fortune running a card hustle called third man for a while. You have a girl who is supposably a regular or local in a big casino town, She gets to know somebody with a bunch of cash on vacation real well for a couple of days, then the third man comes into the picture. He's rude, bad poker player and constantly talks about how lucky the girl is and thats the only reason why she beats him. Then he challenges her to a heads up poker game for alot of money, but she doesnt have it, you can make out the rest of the story.

hemicudas
02-05-2006, 07:45 AM
For 20 years I traveled and hustled as a traveling ad salesman.
As I was doing my daily paperwork on the bar in late afternoon, I had a 3 piece cue in one of those cardboard box style cue cases. It was only about 20" long.
I would ask if there was anyone who played pool for money and within ½ hour there were plenty of offers.
Most of the time I was after a particular player/backer and would wait for him to ask me.
I'm sure it could and would still work today.

TY & GL, OHB

You and Ernie Sellers with his 4 piece cue. This one I invented. "You should see me play pool. That Willie Mascara taught me how to play."

Today you would have to use, "That Ethan Reyes taught me how to play."

BRKNRUN
02-05-2006, 08:44 AM
A few years ago my friend was playing a pretty strong player, getting the 8 ball from him for $250. They agreed to only play one set, because my friend had to leave in a little over an hour. My friend wins the set, takes the money, and asks the guy when he'd like to play again. The guy who lost got really angry and said that he wanted to play again right then and there. My friend said that he had to be somewhere at a certain time and he didn't have time, and since they had agreed to only play one set, the other guy would have to wait to play him some other time. The loser gets even more angry, telling my friend that he's got no gamble, and he calls my friend a nit. So my friend says to him, I'll tell you what, I'll flip you for another $250 then. The loser says ok, and my friend says 'heads I win, tails you lose', and the loser says ok. It lands tails, and says 'tails you lose', my friend takes the other $250 and leaves. The loser didn't realize that he had been scammed until the next day. Even when he saw my friend again, he was so humiliated that he couldn't even really get angry at him, and they became good friends to this day. When I heard that story I laughed my ass off for hours.



That is similar to the "heads on the ground" flip...can't lose.

I think the best hustles are the ones that the person getting hustled never knows.

Here is a classic, that if done right the normal person will never figure out...I hustled my brothers (non pool players) on this one Thanksgiving afternoon for the whole day...They tried all afternoon and never did figure it out........"Damn...I hate it when the balls get smudges on them"

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PoolSleuth
02-05-2006, 11:11 AM
The Best Hustle I have recently encountered was at the State Fair where the Carnival offered a Game of 4 Ball to Win a Big Stuffed Toy. The Tables were NOT Level, Sticks/Cues were Crooked, and it was ALL BUT impossible to Win the Big Stuffed Toy.

I stood there for almost an hour, watching want to be WINNERS, Loose Copious amounts of their Hard Earn Dollars with ZERO WINNERS.

Greed, and a though they Could BEAT the Game of Chance, and not Skill were at work big time....:mad:

renard
02-05-2006, 12:13 PM
The Best Hustle I have recently encountered was at the State Fair where the Carnival offered a Game of 4 Ball to Win a Big Stuffed Toy. The Tables were NOT Level, Sticks/Cues were Crooked, and it was ALL BUT impossible to Win the Big Stuffed Toy.

I stood there for almost an hour, watching want to be WINNERS, Loose Copious amounts of their Hard Earn Dollars with ZERO WINNERS.

Greed, and a though they Could BEAT the Game of Chance, and not Skill were at work big time....:mad:

I won my Daughter the biggest stuffed animal prize (more money up front) on the first try. The table was about 8 inches taller than normal set over pavement where a sewer grill was in the ground (a lower trough by the side pockets.) The equipment was a mess.

I asked if I could work on the tip and the guy said yes. I used my willards on my key chain and ruffed it up. I didn't even attempt to draw a ball, used follow only.

After I won some guy wants me to play for him. At which I lose. (Forced to bank on what seemed to be wood not rubber by the sound of it.) I then realized just how lucky I was then quit. As I was walking away they removed the stick I had ruffed up from the assortment of sticks!:p

Get_A_Grip
02-05-2006, 12:37 PM
The Best Hustle I have recently encountered was at the State Fair where the Carnival offered a Game of 4 Ball to Win a Big Stuffed Toy. The Tables were NOT Level, Sticks/Cues were Crooked, and it was ALL BUT impossible to Win the Big Stuffed Toy.

I stood there for almost an hour, watching want to be WINNERS, Loose Copious amounts of their Hard Earn Dollars with ZERO WINNERS.

Greed, and a though they Could BEAT the Game of Chance, and not Skill were at work big time....:mad:

Well, I won a big stuffed animal making four balls without missing playing that game. It was at Great America in Illinois. I actually didn't find the conditions too bad at the one at Great America. The tables and sticks weren't near as bad as I thought they would be. I think that it was $5.00 for a chance to win the big toy.

JAM
02-05-2006, 01:33 PM
Well, I won a big stuffed animal making four balls without missing playing that game. It was at Great America in Illinois. I actually didn't find the conditions too bad at the one at Great America. The tables and sticks weren't near as bad as I thought they would be. I think that it was $5.00 for a chance to win the big toy.

I won a couple of big lime green alligators at the Rockville Fair one year on the gaff tables. I was with a group of pool players visiting the fairgrounds, and we all were snatching up those stuffed animals left and right. One by one, they cut us all off. :D

The trick is not to break them hard and all the balls are just laying out there. Most times, an easy run-out, if you get a little lucky. :p

JAM

OldHasBeen
02-05-2006, 02:32 PM
The Best Hustle I have recently encountered was at the State Fair where the Carnival offered a Game of 4 Ball to Win a Big Stuffed Toy. The Tables were NOT Level, Sticks/Cues were Crooked, and it was ALL BUT impossible to Win the Big Stuffed Toy.
I stood there for almost an hour, watching want to be WINNERS, Loose Copious amounts of their Hard Earn Dollars with ZERO WINNERS.
Greed, and a though they Could BEAT the Game of Chance, and not Skill were at work big time....:mad:

I did this at a local carnival once. After winning two BIG stuffed animals (My kids still have them), The carney looked around at everone else in the crowd watching and said, "see how easy it is". He then took the cus stick away from me and offered it to the next guy in line. He also gave me a very dirty look. I really didn't care because the two was all I was after.
I couldn't leave though without telling him I was the Missouri State 9-Ball champ. I also told him there were about 5 of my friends here with me that played just as good so look out. All BS but I'll bet he was walking on eggs the rest of the day.

TY & GL, OHB

5ballcharlie
02-05-2006, 02:44 PM
I won my Daughter the biggest stuffed animal prize (more money up front) on the first try. The table was about 8 inches taller than normal set over pavement where a sewer grill was in the ground (a lower trough by the side pockets.) The equipment was a mess.

I asked if I could work on the tip and the guy said yes. I used my willards on my key chain and ruffed it up. I didn't even attempt to draw a ball, used follow only.

After I won some guy wants me to play for him. At which I lose. (Forced to bank on what seemed to be wood not rubber by the sound of it.) I then realized just how lucky I was then quit. As I was walking away they removed the stick I had ruffed up from the assortment of sticks!:p
I disagree on all but impossible. The carnival were I am from has horrible equipment with small pockets and bandaged cloth. I too seen alot of suckers lose there money too the carni's. I won 3 times in a row and they kicked me out from playing.

Mystick Cue Fan
02-05-2006, 03:11 PM
Same here. I won 1 big animal and one small one and they made me stop playing. Witht he crooked tables you just have to adjust by firing in the balls sometimes so the table can't get you. If you are a pretty descent player you can win this game every time. I'm going to see how my luck turns out at the rodeo.


Tony

renard
02-05-2006, 05:22 PM
I disagree on all but impossible. The carnival were I am from has horrible equipment with small pockets and bandaged cloth. I too seen alot of suckers lose there money too the carni's. I won 3 times in a row and they kicked me out from playing.

Did I say impossible?:confused: I won one for my only child and I only shot twice. I did say the equipment sucked...

a_susie_cue
02-06-2006, 03:16 PM
I won the pool game at Great America quite a few years back. Those tables were a lot better than I have ever seen at any fair. I won 2 times and got kicked off the tables.

PoolSleuth
02-06-2006, 05:27 PM
I won the pool game at Great America quite a few years back. Those tables were a lot better than I have ever seen at any fair. I won 2 times and got kicked off the tables.

Most State & County Fair I have been to have Fly By Night Carnival Operators who only purpose in life is to try and cheat each mark out of as much money as they can with Games Rigged in Favor of the Carnival.

The Basketball Game is Classic where the Hoop has had the Sides Pressed in so they are NO LONGER A ROUND CIRCLE, so you got to be 100% on the Mark or you never make a Basket, and Win a Prize...:(