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justinb386
11-22-2012, 06:13 AM
I am curious if anyone know who (or what cue company) may have made the cue that I provided pictures of?

I know that my question is a long shot, but I thought that some expert on here may know (or may have an idea if it is just a cheaply made junk import).

I will get better pictures of the cue as soon as possible (if that may help).

Thanks for any idea's (or opinions) about the cue.

Justin

pt109
11-22-2012, 06:30 AM
It's called a Viper.^
Made by Dufferin of Canada...from the 90's
Lot of excellent ebony in that butt.

justinb386
11-22-2012, 07:15 AM
Thank you very much for the information. So it is a good quality cue? Any idea how much they cost back when they were made? I am guessing they were pretty cheap if Dufferin made them. My 1st cue was a Duferin sneaky pete that cost me $60 new (back in 1994). So Duferin named the cue "Viper" (that was the model of the cue)? Thanks.

It's called a Viper.^
Made by Dufferin of Canada...from the 90's
Lot of excellent ebony in that butt.

Chopdoc
11-22-2012, 07:32 AM
It's a Dufferin. I saw it before. Ebay?

Anyway...nothing to write home about on this one.






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justinb386
11-22-2012, 07:32 AM
I am assuming that the Duferin cues in the link below are imports from China (I am guessing), and of lower quality than the ones made back in the 90's?

http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/dufferin/dufferin_pool_cues.htm

Thanks

pt109
11-22-2012, 07:35 AM
Thank you very much for the information. So it is a good quality cue? Any idea how much they cost back when they were made? I am guessing they were pretty cheap if Dufferin made them. My 1st cue was a Duferin sneaky pete that cost me $60 new (back in 1994). So Duferin named the cue "Viper" (that was the model of the cue)? Thanks.

The Viper sold for $99...then up to $119 in the 90's.
But cue makers were buying them and re-working the joint and putting on
their own shafts and selling them for a lot more.
If that butt is straight, it would be worth it to do the same thing...
..because of the long piece of ebony in the butt, it has a good forward
balance.
Dufferin had access to a lot of good maple and exotic wood....
...I've still got house cues with excellent ebony and purple heart butts.

justinb386
11-22-2012, 07:36 AM
Thanks. I purchased it on the goodwill auction site, and they did not note a brand name for the cue. I am curious how you guys were able to identify the cue? Did Duferin have that unique joint that was only on Duferin cues? Thanks.

It's a Dufferin. I saw it before. Ebay?

Anyway...nothing to write home about on this one.






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justinb386
11-22-2012, 07:46 AM
Thank you very much for the info. I see that Richard Harris (of Bluegrass cues) made converted a Duferin sneaky pete into a high quality custom cue (found in the link below).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Richard-Bluegrass-Harris-Dufferin-conversion-Cue-/110967710926?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d630e4ce&nma=true&si=24OeNOxPOJGAYThV%2FHja9xoLVAc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So the Duferin cues were very cheap, but good quality I guess (if cue makers liked to convert them into custom cues).

Thanks.

The Viper sold for $99...then up to $119 in the 90's.
But cue makers were buying them and re-working the joint and putting on
their own shafts and selling them for a lot more.
If that butt is straight, it would be worth it to do the same thing...
..because of the long piece of ebony in the butt, it has a good forward
balance.
Dufferin had access to a lot of good maple and exotic wood....
...I've still got house cues with excellent ebony and purple heart butts.

Chopdoc
11-22-2012, 07:54 AM
Thanks. I purchased it on the goodwill auction site, and they did not note a brand name for the cue. I am curious how you guys were able to identify the cue? Did Duferin have that unique joint that was only on Duferin cues? Thanks.



LOL! You got it!!!

I saw that one! I was thinking of buying it! LOL!


How did I know what it was? I flat out recognized the cue. That's all. :)

I was amazed they took the pictures with the logo turned away. Very odd. But I still knew what it was.

Old Dufferins can make really nice conversions as was said. And they did have a lot of nice wood. Once in a while a real treasure comes up for sale. I saw a rosewood into BEM Dufferin that totally blew me away....and I missed it at auction, I got out-bid.



I think you made a good buy. :)


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Chopdoc
11-22-2012, 07:56 AM
Thank you very much for the info. I see that Richard Harris (of Bluegrass cues) made converted a Duferin sneaky pete into a high quality custom cue (found in the link below).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Richard-Bluegrass-Harris-Dufferin-conversion-Cue-/110967710926?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d630e4ce&nma=true&si=24OeNOxPOJGAYThV%2FHja9xoLVAc%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

So the Duferin cues were very cheap, but good quality I guess (if cue makers liked to convert them into custom cues).

Thanks.


Yup. They were good. You will see some very nice conversions of them.



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justinb386
11-22-2012, 08:18 AM
Thanks for your replies. Maybe they turned the logo the other direction so that people would not know that it is a Duferin (thinking it may sell for more being a mystery brand cue), but that is probably not the case. They probably list so many items a day that they do not look for details, like the brand name of an item (or they do not care to look for that info). I was able to find the name of the joint (in the link below), along with some other interesting information about Duferin cues.

http://www.fgbradleys.com/et_dufferin.asp

Glider Joint: A special joint with a black polycarbonate joint ring, housing a brass male and aluminum female joint sections. Effectively reduces vibration during hit. This is accomplished by wood to wood contact inside the joint and the use of a telescopic wood pilot. This joint also has a semi threaded male section that allows quicker assembly.

I would not have bid on the cue if I knew it was a Duferin. I always thought of Duferins as being of poor quality, but it appears that maybe I was wrong (seeing that cue makers like to make conversions out of them).

LOL! You got it!!!

I saw that one! I was thinking of buying it! LOL!


How did I know what it was? I flat out recognized the cue. That's all. :)

I was amazed they took the pictures with the logo turned away. Very odd. But I still knew what it was.

Old Dufferins can make really nice conversions as was said. And they did have a lot of nice wood. Once in a while a real treasure comes up for sale. I saw a rosewood into BEM Dufferin that totally blew me away....and I missed it at auction, I got out-bid.



I think you made a good buy. :)


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