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JumpinJoe
04-11-2013, 10:10 AM
Does anyone know the biggest added money single bar table event to ever take place? I'm talking one tourney, not the apa nationals.

Helpful info would be the added money, the entry fee, the winner, and when/where it was held.

Thanks

Put_upor_shutup
04-11-2013, 10:41 AM
U got a bet on this or are u gonna try to have a bigger one?

jhanso18
04-11-2013, 10:44 AM
I would think Rum Runner if you count the calcutta.

JumpinJoe
04-11-2013, 10:45 AM
U got a bet on this or are u gonna try to have a bigger one?

Was just interested. no bet.
but having a bigger one is always an option, lol

Put_upor_shutup
04-11-2013, 10:47 AM
Was just interested. no bet.
but having a bigger one is always an option, lol

If I know anything about a Guy who bets high and drives a Benz..He doesn't gain interest without a motive..Make it happen..And give me a job at the door or something..ha ha

JumpinJoe
04-11-2013, 10:51 AM
I would think Rum Runner if you count the calcutta.

I'm not counting any calcuttas. it would be white diamonds then without a doubt. Just looking for tourney part itself. I thought they had a big one in Texas a few years ago, an 8 ball event. do not remember details.

iba7467
04-11-2013, 10:59 AM
Does anyone know the biggest added money single bar table event to ever take place? I'm talking one tourney, not the apa nationals.

Helpful info would be the added money, the entry fee, the winner, and when/where it was held.

Thanks

Here's an AZ link for one in 2005 where they added $30,000
World Championship Bar Table Tournament (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=20168)

iusedtoberich
04-11-2013, 11:01 AM
I recall vaguely reading in these threads a while back there was some single event with 500 or 1000 players that paid over 100k to the winner. One of the champions won it. Maybe it was in the 80's? Think it was a barbox event. Again, this is a vague recollection of reading something. I have no first hand knowledge of it.

JumpinJoe
04-11-2013, 11:21 AM
thanks for the info from all.

Mark Griffin
04-11-2013, 11:35 AM
What do you mean by biggest?

Number of tables?
Number of players?
Size of purse?

US Bar Table is pretty good sized,
40 Tables and 200+ in the 8-Ball division.

Mark Griffin

StrokeofLuck
04-11-2013, 11:51 AM
In terms of number of players and first prize money, probably the Lite Beer World Series of Tavern Pool from the 80's.

D WEATHERSBY II
04-11-2013, 12:13 PM
Here's an AZ link for one in 2005 where they added $30,000
World Championship Bar Table Tournament (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=20168)

Who won this one?

JumpinJoe
04-11-2013, 12:37 PM
What do you mean by biggest?

Number of tables?
Number of players?
Size of purse?

US Bar Table is pretty good sized,
40 Tables and 200+ in the 8-Ball division.

Mark Griffin

yes that is a huge event. And great one, I've been but have not played.

I was just looking for biggest added $ and payouts to one single event. Just to see what's been done before.

Btw, my favorite is the bca, always has been.

ironman
04-11-2013, 12:39 PM
Does anyone know the biggest added money single bar table event to ever take place? I'm talking one tourney, not the apa nationals.

Helpful info would be the added money, the entry fee, the winner, and when/where it was held.

Thanks

Back around 82 or 83 there was the World Series of Tavern pool put on by Miller Lite.
For $10.00 you could win a local and got a regional and win airfare, hotel and entery to a $25,000 added 8 ball and a $15,000 9 ball.
The first was won by John ( Omaha John) Shuput with Ernesto Donminguez second.
I could be very wrong about the added money and my memory is not what it once was.
I think there were like 1200 in the 8 ball and 1400 in the 9 ball. It was at Ceasars in Vegas and after 9 days, I was sick of the place.
oh, and Gary Pinkqowski won the first 9 ball.
That was the greatest event I have ever seen.

JumpinJoe
04-11-2013, 12:41 PM
Back around 82 or 83 there was the World Series of Tavern pool put on by Miller Lite.
For $10.00 you could win a local and got a regional and win airfare, hotel and entery to a $25,000 added 8 ball and a $15,000 9 ball.
The first was won by John ( Omaha John) Shuput with Ernesto Donminguez second.
I could be very wrong about the added money and my memory is not what it once was.
I think there were like 1200 in the 8 ball and 1400 in the 9 ball. It was at Ceasars in Vegas and after 9 days, I was sick of the place.
oh, and Gary Pinkqowski won the first 9 ball.
That was the greatest event I have ever seen.

Thanks lewis

cardiac kid
04-11-2013, 12:45 PM
I would think Rum Runner if you count the calcutta.

Even without the calcutta, how many other $200 entry bar box events are / were there? Think Gino Hill added $3600 this year.

Lyn

JAM
04-11-2013, 01:17 PM
Lexington All Star Bar Table Championship was $25,000 guaranteed, which occurred in 1985. It paid $7,000 first place, but it was the calcuttas that told the story. It was a full field of 128 players. It was held in Lexington, Kentucky. The finals came down to Keith McCready and Ismael "Moro" Paez. The calcuttas added up to about $12,000 for first place. Keith bought himself in both calcuttas.

Moro had Keith stuck 13 to 7 in the finals, going to 15. Keith caught a gear and Moro never shot again. Winner winner, chicken dinner. Keith 15, Moro 13. :cool:

At the same tournament, Keith got into action with some guy named Tony Ellin, played a race to 21 for 17 big bags. Keith was stuck in that match, 17 to 14, but Keith again caught a gear and beat Tony 21 to 17 for the cheese. :thumbup:

Keith said Johnny Archer bet 4 big bags on Tony Ellin and lost, which Keith said he was glad about that. :embarrassed2:

It was a good tournament for Keith. :grin:

watchez
04-11-2013, 01:47 PM
They had a big one in Olathe one year -- over 200 players - probably late 90s. And also did a $1000 a man, I believe 16 player event, race to 15 single elimination, on Saturday night. Matlock stole all the money - made em all look like they couldn't play.

Juice
04-11-2013, 02:28 PM
Get em Jumping!

ironman
04-11-2013, 03:11 PM
Thanks lewis

now that I have ;thought on ;this some, John I think got paid ;about 40-$50,000 first place in this.
i remember Allen Hopkins was so hot when the kid from Nebraska knocked him out of the event.
Oh, and it was a single elimination

CJ Wiley
04-12-2013, 01:42 AM
Back around 82 or 83 there was the World Series of Tavern pool put on by Miller Lite.
For $10.00 you could win a local and got a regional and win airfare, hotel and entery to a $25,000 added 8 ball and a $15,000 9 ball.
The first was won by John ( Omaha John) Shuput with Ernesto Donminguez second.
I could be very wrong about the added money and my memory is not what it once was.
I think there were like 1200 in the 8 ball and 1400 in the 9 ball. It was at Ceasars in Vegas and after 9 days, I was sick of the place.
oh, and Gary Pinkqowski won the first 9 ball.
That was the greatest event I have ever seen.

I believe you're right, this is the one I would guess was the biggest. My road partner {at the time} "Omaha John" Shuput won the Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool and it paid $25,000 for first place, they had the total at $200,000 in total prize money. Steve Mizerak was the host that year.

Two years later I won the same tournament, however, a week before the event there was an issue and Miller Lite pulled out and Bud Lite took it over. The prize money was cut in half, but they still had the event, and {of course} ;) that's the one I finished 1st in.....there was 756 Players in the Eight Ball, and they didn't have the 9 Ball that year.

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West Point 1987
04-12-2013, 02:06 AM
Back around 82 or 83 there was the World Series of Tavern pool put on by Miller Lite.
For $10.00 you could win a local and got a regional and win airfare, hotel and entery to a $25,000 added 8 ball and a $15,000 9 ball.
The first was won by John ( Omaha John) Shuput with Ernesto Donminguez second.
I could be very wrong about the added money and my memory is not what it once was.
I think there were like 1200 in the 8 ball and 1400 in the 9 ball. It was at Ceasars in Vegas and after 9 days, I was sick of the place.
oh, and Gary Pinkqowski won the first 9 ball.
That was the greatest event I have ever seen.

I played in this event back in 1991...by then it was the Coors Light World Series of Bar Games...same set up, you won a local qualifier, then went to a regional tournament, then the Nationals. It was only BB 8 Ball and soft darts by then. I placed just high enough in New Orleans to get airfare to Vegas for the Nationals, but the Army decided I needed to go to the National Training Center instead...what torture, sitting in my Hummer in the desert, with the lights of Vegas glowing over the mountains...:( The regionals in New Orleans had about 150 players from all over the country (I guess they took local winners from wherever, some were from as far away as New Jersey, I recall). Full of pros, some on the tour at the time. Race to 5, my two losses I never got a shot...both my opponents whitewashed me with 5 packs. :angry:

dardusm
04-12-2013, 05:47 AM
I believe you're right, this is the one I would guess was the biggest. My road partner {at the time} "Omaha John" Shuput won the Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool and it paid $25,000 for first place, they had the total at $200,000 in total prize money. Steve Mizerak was the host that year.

Two years later I won the same tournament, however, a week before the event there was an issue and Miller Lite pulled out and Bud Lite took it over. The prize money was cut in half, but they still had the event, and {of course} ;) that's the one I finished 1st in.....there was 756 Players in the Eight Ball, and they didn't have the 9 Ball that year.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/167701_1566456676454_3322139_n.jpghttps://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/165722_1566456916460_142827_n.jpg

Awesome photo's CJ! Thanks for sharing.

BlackWing
04-12-2013, 05:54 AM
The biggest bar event ever was invention of the first bar rules and organization of small groups of players who continue fighting back against WPA's and BCA's grip.

richiebalto
04-12-2013, 08:10 AM
I believe you're right, this is the one I would guess was the biggest. My road partner {at the time} "Omaha John" Shuput won the Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool and it paid $25,000 for first place, they had the total at $200,000 in total prize money. Steve Mizerak was the host that year.

Two years later I won the same tournament, however, a week before the event there was an issue and Miller Lite pulled out and Bud Lite took it over. The prize money was cut in half, but they still had the event, and {of course} ;) that's the one I finished 1st in.....there was 756 Players in the Eight Ball, and they didn't have the 9 Ball that year.

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Pittsburg Mike Katsaris won this event also, i forget what year it was, but i do know he pocketed 25,000 for his win, then stayed there to deal blackjack for awile.

1on1pooltournys
04-13-2013, 04:22 PM
Found this in an old box!

Rico
04-13-2013, 06:20 PM
In 81-84 the BarRag shootout in Iowa was64 player limit 300 entry $25,000 added 15000 first not counting calcutta. Buddy Hall was the winner over Dallas West.

jay helfert
04-13-2013, 07:26 PM
Back around 82 or 83 there was the World Series of Tavern pool put on by Miller Lite.
For $10.00 you could win a local and got a regional and win airfare, hotel and entery to a $25,000 added 8 ball and a $15,000 9 ball.
The first was won by John ( Omaha John) Shuput with Ernesto Donminguez second.
I could be very wrong about the added money and my memory is not what it once was.
I think there were like 1200 in the 8 ball and 1400 in the 9 ball. It was at Ceasars in Vegas and after 9 days, I was sick of the place.
oh, and Gary Pinkqowski won the first 9 ball.
That was the greatest event I have ever seen.

Almost all correct, except it was 100K guaranteed purse in each division, with the winner getting 25K! And that was 30 years ago. Yours truly played the first year, finishing tied for 33rd and won $900 in the Eight Ball. The second year I was the head referee.

jay helfert
04-13-2013, 07:29 PM
I believe you're right, this is the one I would guess was the biggest. My road partner {at the time} "Omaha John" Shuput won the Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool and it paid $25,000 for first place, they had the total at $200,000 in total prize money. Steve Mizerak was the host that year.

Two years later I won the same tournament, however, a week before the event there was an issue and Miller Lite pulled out and Bud Lite took it over. The prize money was cut in half, but they still had the event, and {of course} ;) that's the one I finished 1st in.....there was 756 Players in the Eight Ball, and they didn't have the 9 Ball that year.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/167701_1566456676454_3322139_n.jpghttps://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/165722_1566456916460_142827_n.jpg

CJ, you got 15K the year you won. Right? I was the head ref that year. :smile:

CJ Wiley
04-15-2013, 03:31 AM
CJ, you got 15K the year you won. Right? I was the head ref that year. :smile:

I think my end was $7500.(TR from Florida staked me), and I thought that was nothing compared to what I'd been winning on the road gambling back then.

Yes, Jay, you seemed to be everywhere back then and we've shared a lot of "historic moments," between the California/Vegas tournaments, and the Million Dollar Challenge (Jay racked the balls with Earl won the Million Dollar Challenge running 11 racks in a row).

Believe it or not, Jay, I still have the finals from that tournament on VHS tape....I've been going to upload it to You Tube. I was 21 years old when I won the World Series of Tavern Pool and I played Bill Eigel (sp?) in the finals. I played flawless in the finals, and I remember it was nerve racking in front of several hundred people.

I went back "underground" after that tournament and didn't play another tournament for several years. Gambling was too lucrative, I was winning over a hundred thousand a year in those days, and it was exciting by any standards. :thumbup:

ironman
04-15-2013, 04:18 AM
I believe you're right, this is the one I would guess was the biggest. My road partner {at the time} "Omaha John" Shuput won the Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool and it paid $25,000 for first place, they had the total at $200,000 in total prize money. Steve Mizerak was the host that year.

Two years later I won the same tournament, however, a week before the event there was an issue and Miller Lite pulled out and Bud Lite took it over. The prize money was cut in half, but they still had the event, and {of course} ;) that's the one I finished 1st in.....there was 756 Players in the Eight Ball, and they didn't have the 9 Ball that year.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/167701_1566456676454_3322139_n.jpghttps://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/165722_1566456916460_142827_n.jpg I trust you are very right, too much sleep since then for me.
I remember John and I were sitting out front the night before the finals just dreaming of winning.
he was a class guy and I enjoyed being around him. He made one hellof a shot to beat Ernesto.
I think that was the same year Surfer Rod went off to Allen Hopkins playing last pocket 8 ball at the Serene Room. At $1000 per game, Rod lost like 22 games. Allen got out from any imaginable place. Rod climbed on the table and jacked up from any imaginable place.

satman
04-15-2013, 05:22 AM
Found this in an old box!

Omaha John would have won in 1982. I played in the 9 ball in 1983, and got a bye the first round. My opponent was either gonna be, Ernesto or a guy whose name I can't recall off the top of my head. I do recall, he was a former world straight pool champ. He beat Ernesto, then beat me too. This was the event Gary Pinkowski won. My buddy had him beat, and missed a 9 ball, that cost him the set. $200,000 purse in the 80's was a ton of money... Well, I guess it still is actually.

satman
04-15-2013, 05:28 AM
Almost all correct, except it was 100K guaranteed purse in each division, with the winner getting 25K! And that was 30 years ago. Yours truly played the first year, finishing tied for 33rd and won $900 in the Eight Ball. The second year I was the head referee.

The cups I have say "$200,000 Lite Beer World Series of Tavern Pool" from 83... The ones from 84 say $300,000....I don't know if that was the number they "hoped" for, or what was guaranteed