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Mystick Cue Fan
07-03-2006, 09:12 PM
Hey Jeff, give me a call tommorow. I'm already done for the night. I went to Pockets to play in a handicapped tournament and it was stated 7 and under. I've yet to play in a handicapped tourny, but anyway I went and banged some balls around and paid my entry fee then they told me I couldn't play. Because I played like a strong 8 or 9. OOOOH OK. I said how can you gauge my game? I've only been hitting balls around. He said I need to go somewhere else. So whatever. I figure I'll play in Main Street's Monday night tourny. It's 7 and under too so I guess I'll dump right? Wrong. I show up and this guy asks me if I'm here for the Junior nationals. So I said yeah. Then he said. Oh well you can't play in it. WHAT???? I asked why and he said they aren't letting any junior national players play in it that are in the 19 and unders. Whatever. I wanted to linger around and catch a game but I figured I better just call it a night. So whatever happens happens. I'm going to register tommorow. Bright and early. For a pool player at least. 1100 am. Well Jeff I hope to see you there. I'm going to play in the Open tourny tommorow at main street. So I guess I'll donate to the pot there. Well Keeping you guys updated for the most part. I haven't seen Jeff's post about the tourny but when he starts one then I'll end mine.....;) Sound fair Jeff? Alright. For the rest of you you better wish me good luck or I'll make sure I go two and out just to make all of you feel bad.....:D lol. j/k

I like to gamble so I'll take a gamble and say my pick for the 14 and unders is Jeff Berger. And my pick for the 19 and unders is Tony Cano. Hmmm. I'll only bet v bucks though. :D And I'll be willing to bet that the girl that wins the 14 and unders can spot me a ball. And the girl that wins the 19 and unders can spot me 2 balls and the break ;) I just came to have fun. I've yet to meet jeff but maybe tommorow. Wed. at the latest. alright....I'll try my best to keep you updated until Jeff puts up his Arizona Junior nationals post.

Tony

TannerPruess
07-03-2006, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the update!

WINTHEDAY14
07-03-2006, 09:31 PM
I am leaving the house at 4:30 am to go to o"hare flight leaves at 7:30 so ill be there around 11:00 see ya there

Mystick Cue Fan
07-03-2006, 09:33 PM
Thanks for the update!


Why aren't you here Tanner. I can almost for sure say you play better than me but what is it that kept you? I would have sure liked to have seen you hit some balls around. You would have for sure had a good laugh after watching me play. :p So I think we would have both enjoyed it. Well I'm sure I'll butt heads with you one day. :cool:

Tony

Mystick Cue Fan
07-03-2006, 09:34 PM
I am leaving the house at 4:30 am to go to o"hare flight leaves at 7:30 so ill be there around 11:00 see ya there


Alright buddy, maybe you can play in this open tourny they have at mainstreet with me. I'll think of it as a warm up for the big one. If not that's cool I'll see you at registration or at the tournament.

Tony

WINTHEDAY14
07-03-2006, 11:07 PM
whats the adress for mainstreet billiards?

PoolSharkAllen
07-03-2006, 11:57 PM
whats the adress for mainstreet billiards?
Have you tried using the telephone book? Or perhaps dexonline.com? :)

watchez
07-04-2006, 12:07 AM
Have you tried using the telephone book? Or perhaps dexonline.com? :)
Or maybe he could simply ask someone that just left there....oh, nevermind that is what he did.

CaptiveBred
07-04-2006, 04:30 AM
get used to the unwanted pool player scene in AZ :(

The entire valley pool scence is: he is here to rob us, kick him out


Everywhere you go, that will be the way it is. Everybody assumes any new face is a road player and plays too good...

Phoenix Pool is a joke. hardly anybody is willing to just put it all out there and get beat. if you look like you can play, you are not allowed to play... What the hell is that?

I think the GPRC (rating system) started all the trouble you are having. It created an entire breed of players who are afraid to play somebody that may beat them. It has become an accepted plague.. Those who can't play latch on to it like a life raft on the Titanic...

powderburner
07-04-2006, 05:40 AM
Welcome to Arizona! Unless you get rated by someone certified to rate people you can't get the little rateing card, which means you get listed with 10,000 others in their coumputer system. The rateing procedure consists of playing the certifing guy a few games and he comes up with the number. The worst thing about the system is all the 7 and lower tournaments. Uhm, and wait till someone insists on your rating before they will play you a $10 set.

Clicks on 2' nd street (maybe Avenue ?) up towards the mall also had open tournaments, check one of those newspaper things everybody has.

PoolSharkAllen
07-04-2006, 06:10 AM
I went to Pockets to play in a handicapped tournament and it was stated 7 and under. I've yet to play in a handicapped tourny, but anyway I went and banged some balls around and paid my entry fee then they told me I couldn't play. Because I played like a strong 8 or 9. OOOOH OK. I said how can you gauge my game? I've only been hitting balls around. He said I need to go somewhere else. So whatever. I figure I'll play in Main Street's Monday night tourny. It's 7 and under too so I guess I'll dump right?
Tony

The problem with rating systems is that you have people like Tony who will cheat (dump) so they can get a rating that is lower then their actual skill level.

vagabond
07-04-2006, 06:28 AM
Welcome to Arizona!

Clicks on 2' nd street (maybe Avenue ?) up towards the mall also had open tournaments, check one of those newspaper things everybody has.

It is on First ave.Mainstreet billiards is on Broadway.Pockets is on wilmot.grab a billiard news paper and it will give evry detail u want.
pool halls in Tucson suck big time.

vagabond
07-04-2006, 06:30 AM
The problem with rating systems is that you have people like Tony who will cheat (dump) so they can get a rating that is lower then their actual skill level.

They have better rating system than any state I know.Every player is BRANDED with a rating number

TannerPruess
07-04-2006, 07:24 AM
Why aren't you here Tanner. I can almost for sure say you play better than me but what is it that kept you? I would have sure liked to have seen you hit some balls around. You would have for sure had a good laugh after watching me play. :p So I think we would have both enjoyed it. Well I'm sure I'll butt heads with you one day. :cool:

Tony
It is too far away and I don't have any qualifiers around SD. :( :(

powderburner
07-04-2006, 07:34 AM
The problem with rating systems is that you have people like Tony who will cheat (dump) so they can get a rating that is lower then their actual skill level.

I don't see enough money in the regular tournaments to make it worth while to dump. Maybe if you play regular and want in the lower rated tournaments. Don't think Tony fits in that catagory.

It does happen of course, probably not as much as in the leagues as you can get bumped up pretty easily if you are obviously sandbagging.

powderburner
07-04-2006, 07:43 AM
Vagabond, I'd have to look at a map to be sure of the street. If they closed the map store just south of Clicks I'd have a hard time getting in Clicks driveway as they are not right on the street.

By the way, avoid the middle table of the three front Gold Crowns. It is triple shimed and plays funny when you hit the shims. Maybe things have changed by now but I got burned on that table and I usually like tight pockets.

PoolSharkAllen
07-04-2006, 08:06 AM
I don't see enough money in the regular tournaments to make it worth while to dump. Maybe if you play regular and want in the lower rated tournaments. Don't think Tony fits in that catagory.

It does happen of course, probably not as much as in the leagues as you can get bumped up pretty easily if you are obviously sandbagging.

When I was in Tucson last year for 6 weeks, they had daily $5 entry fee tournaments (open as well as under 7-rating), which drew many of the best players in town. And beer for only a buck. :)

With $5 entry fees, players aren't going to get rich off of the winnings. They are there to have fun.

Mystick Cue Fan
07-04-2006, 12:14 PM
The problem with rating systems is that you have people like Tony who will cheat (dump) so they can get a rating that is lower then their actual skill level.


I just wanted to play is all. There wasn't any tournament that night that wasn't 7 and under. Now if you think I'm going there to rob you're wrong. I even told the guy at the tourny last night. That I just want to play. I told him I'll give everyone the last 2 or a game on the wire. He still said no.

So It's not the rating system that bothered me...(well a little bit now that I think of it).... it was that I just wanted to play. If you think you know me by the slightest bit you don't. I love to play... whether I'm winner or loser.

Tony

bigsamho
07-04-2006, 01:24 PM
Well I remember when I went out there, I got out there late. There was no where to play so I didn't even practice for it. I didn't even go to the actual room until it was time for me to play a match just because there were too many kids in there to practice. Like at least 3 or 4 to a table. I ended up doing a little gambling at Clicks as the tournament was going, but if you're worried about hitting balls I don't know what to tell you. I'd just find some kids that want some cheap action and play for a few hours. There are a lot of those kids who gamble out there but only a few bet big. There should be quite a few looking for cheap action that play pretty decent.

PoolSharkAllen
07-04-2006, 03:34 PM
I just wanted to play is all. There wasn't any tournament that night that wasn't 7 and under. Now if you think I'm going there to rob you're wrong. I even told the guy at the tourny last night. That I just want to play. I told him I'll give everyone the last 2 or a game on the wire. He still said no.

So It's not the rating system that bothered me it was that I just wanted to play. If you think you know me by the slightest bit you don't. But thanks for trying to get to know me first.

Tony
You're asking too much to expect the tournament organizers to make exceptions to the 7 and under bracket just because you want to play.

If I recall correctly, they do have open tournaments 3 nights or so a week, on alternate evenings. You just happened to be there on the wrong night.

Mystick Cue Fan
07-04-2006, 10:23 PM
You're asking too much to expect the tournament organizers to make exceptions to the 7 and under bracket just because you want to play.

If I recall correctly, they do have open tournaments 3 nights or so a week, on alternate evenings. You just happened to be there on the wrong night.


Not really, I wasn't forcing myself on them. I just mentioned that spot to see if I could play. I wasn't arguing with them, I just thought the rating system was stupid. The guy who rated me was just as good if not better than I was but he was playing in the tournament......it was just ridiculus to me. Oh and I am well aware of the other tournaments throughout the week. I just love to play. No matter win or lose. Well I hope this helps you understand a bit more. Thanks

Tony

Mystick Cue Fan
07-04-2006, 10:30 PM
I am leaving the house at 4:30 am to go to o"hare flight leaves at 7:30 so ill be there around 11:00 see ya there



OH and watch out for this kid Jeff.....Man this kid moves like a ghost. :D


I would honestly say that he plays about my speed if not better and I'm in the 19 and unders. I honestly do like my chances to go pretty far so this kid can really move the rock. Oh and I saw Landon and the other favorites in the 14 and unders and I would say Jeff plays better than them all. Maybe I could be wrong but you guys have a Dark horse in the Running. Good luck Jeff, See you Tommorow. Oh and by the way you have a nice Josey. ;)

Tony

Mystick Cue Fan
07-04-2006, 10:32 PM
Oh and I know Jeff probably thinks I suck and all :D :D :D but I only got 2 games in and my hands were so sweaty that I couldn't even use an open hand bridge. Well anyway, he'll have plenty of time to see me play. :cool:

Tony

Mystick Cue Fan
07-06-2006, 03:41 PM
Oh and I know Jeff probably thinks I suck and all :D :D :D but I only got 2 games in and my hands were so sweaty that I couldn't even use an open hand bridge. Well anyway, he'll have plenty of time to see me play. :cool:

Tony



Just got through with the first day last night. I won my first two and lost ot one of the Rankin Brothers. I really didn't have a chance. He was getting some rolls and playing good so I don't know if I could have beat him that night. I kept making dry breaks. And it was pretty much down hill. Justin had his first decent test last night with a tall blond kid that plays really good himself. I think he was Sponsered by McDaniel cues. Well he had the shirt on anyway. I think playing Justin rattled him a bit and he shook Justin as well. They were both doggin balls they normally don't dog. Well anyway I think Justin won 9-5. But it was the best match of the night. Well I play again tonight at 7pm. I need to win quite a few to place. But I'm confident. I think I'll have to win about 4-5 matches to get 4th. well wish me luck. Oh and I think Jeff one his first few but not too sure on how he's doing now. I'll get back to you guys.



Tony