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9balllvr
07-04-2006, 05:56 PM
I have wondered this for a while, but why is it when Karen wins an event she gets no praise for the win? You don't see her name everywhere as you would other players - not even here on AZ, which I am surprised to see as they cover everyone. Am I missing something?

Thanks,

9balllvr

Johnnyt
07-04-2006, 05:58 PM
Way to go Karen. I don't get it either. I met her here in Florida last year. She's a very nice down to earth person. Johnnyt

longhair
07-04-2006, 07:01 PM
Two years ago at the Peoria tournament I watched her smoke some poor mortal in the last round of play on Friday night. During that match she missed ONE open shot. After everyone else had drifted away to the bar or the casino or wherever, Karen was still at that table practicing that shot. Needless to say, I was very impressed. It's no wonder that she plays as well as she does.

Subsonic2u
07-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Yes, agreed. I watched the past weekend's tournament on the WPBA charts. Karen does not live far from me and I met her at her local pool hall for a tournament. She came in 2nd in a 15 hour marathon. ;) U could not ask for a nicer person to represent pool. Very friendly and polite. Way to go Karen.

Charlie

justnum
07-04-2006, 07:12 PM
i think its great some players like their privacy. Forcing money players to do tv stuff just might not make for a good show, ever watch the IPT commentaries.

kcpoolfan
07-04-2006, 07:18 PM
Karen is a great ambassador for the game itself and she presents herself well and treats others with respect however she could also benefit if she let herself be more open to allowing herself to be promoted like the other women players do

justnum
07-04-2006, 07:20 PM
what about all this new millenia logic I get from a friend about equal treatment and girls arent just some barbie doll. And meriting them on skill and talent just like the guys.

These are not my personal views.

Michael Webb
07-04-2006, 07:38 PM
Yes, agreed. I watched the past weekend's tournament on the WPBA charts. Karen does not live far from me and I met her at her local pool hall for a tournament. She came in 2nd in a 15 hour marathon. ;) U could not ask for a nicer person to represent pool. Very friendly and polite. Way to go Karen.

Charlie

Tap, Tap.
Karen and Julie step up on the Joss tour and it definately adds an extra touch of class to the events.

PoolSharkAllen
07-04-2006, 07:51 PM
Karen is one of my favorite players to watch on tv and learn from!

kcpoolfan
07-04-2006, 07:52 PM
Have no probelem meriting them on their ability and talent...but why not make the most of all their attributes as well as talent...some are too reserved

bruin70
07-04-2006, 07:53 PM
maybe she has no charisma or that certain "something" that people gravitate to.

kcpoolfan
07-04-2006, 07:57 PM
Maybe because she is so shy she seems unapproachable

poolhall maven
07-04-2006, 08:03 PM
Maybe because she is so shy she seems unapproachable


That is very true, she is really shy--I've been to dinner with her and Julie, and Julie is much more extroverted than Karen. They are both really nice people but, Karen is just the quieter of the two. I think she is fine just the way she is, lets leave the showman ship to Jeanette and Karen can do her talking on the pool table!
phm

kcpoolfan
07-04-2006, 08:05 PM
But wouldnt it better karen if she could do both like jeanette? i mean even after she wins a tourney its hard to tell she has won lol

lewdo26
07-04-2006, 08:07 PM
maybe she has no charisma or that certain "something" that people gravitate to.She's not blonde and she wears glasses. Let's face it, the WPBA capitalizes on looks. If it was all a matter of ability, men's pool would get as much attention or more despite the fact that they aren't as organized.

kcpoolfan
07-04-2006, 08:10 PM
Nothin wrong with karen's looks and we know there is noting wrong with her game

MVPCues
07-04-2006, 08:12 PM
But wouldnt it better karen if she could do both like jeanette? i mean even after she wins a tourney its hard to tell she has won lol

Maybe that singular intensity and dedication is what allows or affords her to be as great as she is and win. Maybe if she was more like Jeanette as you say, if her personality was different, she wouldn't be the same player and we would not be talking about her.

Kelly

poolhall maven
07-04-2006, 08:13 PM
But wouldnt it better karen if she could do both like jeanette? i mean even after she wins a tourney its hard to tell she has won lol

I think you are asking too much of her, it is not her style...there are plenty of other players that can market themselves and pool. Jen Barretta for example--kcpoolfan just love her the way she is.
phm

lewdo26
07-04-2006, 08:14 PM
Nothin wrong with karen's looks and we know there is noting wrong with her gameI agree, there's nothing wrong with her looks. But it so happens I don't determine what the media markets as "attractive."

9balllvr
07-04-2006, 08:16 PM
i think its great some players like their privacy. Forcing money players to do tv stuff just might not make for a good show, ever watch the IPT commentaries.

I completely agree if the choice is hers to not be in the public eye as much as other players.....but, is that the case? [if someone answered later in the post, I haven't gotten that far yet] I was not sure and always wondered why she did not have the same exposure after wins.....

On a side note, I have not had a chance to hear the IPT commentaries yet.....anything interesting said there?

9balllvr

kcpoolfan
07-04-2006, 08:17 PM
ok not even looks wise but how about more interviews..i mean you never see her given an interview...does she even give lessons?

justnum
07-04-2006, 08:20 PM
the espn commentaries it feels like Im at the bar and we are just talking about the game.

with the IPT its like my little brother is getting all excited because he knows what a scratch is and just saw one.

Karen has some poker face considering she beat archer in round 1 of the IPT. And had the slightest crack of excitement. I wouldnt want to play her in poker.

9balllvr
07-04-2006, 08:21 PM
That is very true, she is really shy--I've been to dinner with her and Julie, and Julie is much more extroverted than Karen. They are both really nice people but, Karen is just the quieter of the two. I think she is fine just the way she is, lets leave the showman ship to Jeanette and Karen can do her talking on the pool table!
phm

I am not speaking of a "show" really, just that she doesn't seem to get the press after an event that the other players receive - the congrats and such - that was the basis of this thread.

I appreciate her game because of her determination - she most definitely has the heart of a champion in my opinion and as a woman, I can say I don't admire many female players, I tend to enjoy the men's more aggressive play - her drive is the best part of her game in my opinion.

9balllvr

kcpoolfan
07-05-2006, 06:33 AM
wo wshe finally showed some apparent emotuon at the table...did anyone see the pic of the foul being called on her during the last tourney in fla...the pic is on this website...she looked like she was a lil upset there ..u go karen

Subsonic2u
07-05-2006, 08:13 AM
Someone asked if Karen gives lessons, yes she does. She is also very pretty, even with glasses, with fantastic black hair, ;) and a beautiful smile. She is also very shy. I think those that have not seen her smile only see her "playing" face at tournaments. Karen is very intense during a tournament, not joking around like Jeanette Lee or Vivian Vilariel. If she does not need to promote herself to make a living, I accept her desire for privacy.

Charlie