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mikepage
07-05-2006, 05:56 PM
C, B, A ratings, etc are subjective and mean different things to different people. It's always interesting, imo, to try to tie these things down a little.

Try this little exercise. You're driving down the highway far away from home with your pool cue in the car. You see a green sign:

ANYTOWN USA
POPULATION XXX

What, for you, would XXX have to be for you to have an even chance of being able to beat anybody in town?

Assume here that all towns have a random representative sampling of United States residents. That's not true of course, but it makes things a lot easier.

For me, I think the answer is XXX= 20,000.

Here is what I think are reasonable labels based on the value of XXX

RATING VALUE OF XXX
_______ ____________

D 50
C 500
B 5,000
A 50,000 (6000 of these in the country)
shortstop 500,000 (600 of these in the country)
touring pro 5,000,000 (60 of these in the country)
world class 50,000,000 (6 of these in the country)

What would XXX be for you?

mike page
fargo

Harvywallbanger
07-05-2006, 06:10 PM
I guess it would depend on how many POOL players live in Anytown USA.:p I like to think I'm the best in my county though. Maybe even including nearby counties. I don't know, I would take a chance with the best of 10,000 "random" people for a \$100 set. Interesting idea you have though.

EDIT: thats 10,000 random people NOT 10,000 random pool players.

Harvywallbanger
07-05-2006, 06:18 PM
Now you have me thinking.:D There are alot of people in this world. Close to 6 Billion if I'm correct. I bet a computer could randomly pick 50,000 people 100 times and I would be the best out of those 50,000 people more than 50 times. At least I would place a bet that I would be.:) LOL this is pretty fun. Whos next?

unknownpro
07-05-2006, 08:01 PM
C, B, A ratings, etc are subjective and mean different things to different people. It's always interesting, imo, to try to tie these things down a little.

Try this little exercise. You're driving down the highway far away from home with your pool cue in the car. You see a green sign:

ANYTOWN USA
POPULATION XXX

What, for you, would XXX have to be for you to have an even chance of being able to beat anybody in town?

Assume here that all towns have a random representative sampling of United States residents. That's not true of course, but it makes things a lot easier.

For me, I think the answer is XXX= 20,000.

Here is what I think are reasonable labels based on the value of XXX

RATING VALUE OF XXX
_______ ____________

D 50
C 500
B 5,000
A 50,000 (6000 of these in the country)
shortstop 500,000 (600 of these in the country)
touring pro 5,000,000 (60 of these in the country)
world class 50,000,000 (6 of these in the country)

What would XXX be for you?

mike page
fargo
500,000,000,000
The sob that can beat me won't be born for another 50 years or so, lol!
unknownpro

StraightPoolIU
07-05-2006, 08:13 PM
I'd probably have to go with -6 or so. I don't know how you can get a town with negative population, but I'm sure I'd be able to beat any and all of them.

sixpack
07-05-2006, 08:14 PM
C, B, A ratings, etc are subjective and mean different things to different people. It's always interesting, imo, to try to tie these things down a little.

Try this little exercise. You're driving down the highway far away from home with your pool cue in the car. You see a green sign:

ANYTOWN USA
POPULATION XXX

What, for you, would XXX have to be for you to have an even chance of being able to beat anybody in town?

Assume here that all towns have a random representative sampling of United States residents. That's not true of course, but it makes things a lot easier.

For me, I think the answer is XXX= 20,000.

Here is what I think are reasonable labels based on the value of XXX

RATING VALUE OF XXX
_______ ____________

D 50
C 500
B 5,000
A 50,000 (6000 of these in the country)
shortstop 500,000 (600 of these in the country)
touring pro 5,000,000 (60 of these in the country)
world class 50,000,000 (6 of these in the country)

What would XXX be for you?

mike page
fargo

Mike,

That's a great way to look at it, but it would be difficult because so many small towns have some great players. I know the town I'm from has less than 7000 people, and there are at least 10 people who are really good. Like AA/AAA good.

I remember telling road players where I was from and they would say it was a trap.

I was in there one night and a road player/shortstop from Denver that I knew walked in. He played about the 20th best player that was in the bar at the time and had trouble with him, but the outcome wasn't really in doubt. He probably could beat everybody in there but like 3 or 4 people. Flats (who posts on here), myself, and a few others, but still. That's pretty strong action for a town of 6800.

Cheers,
RC

Bob Jewett
07-05-2006, 08:30 PM
...

RATING VALUE OF XXX
_______ ____________

D 50
C 500
B 5,000
A 50,000 (6000 of these in the country)
shortstop 500,000 (600 of these in the country)
touring pro 5,000,000 (60 of these in the country)
world class 50,000,000 (6 of these in the country)
...
So I'm thinking about the population of the nine or so counties in this area and the number of people in that area that I expect to finish behind in tournaments. Then I'm dividing the one by the other. I'm probably leaving out a factor of 2.71828 or so. The other problem is that there must be some unknowns who never appear in tournaments. About an A or so.

But those towns of 5000 out in the sticks always seem to have a farmer named Clem who does nothing during the winter but play pool and he never misses a ball down at the Rusty Thresher.

Flex
07-06-2006, 11:19 AM
But those towns of 5000 out in the sticks always seem to have a farmer named Clem who does nothing during the winter but play pool and he never misses a ball down at the Rusty Thresher.

And he uses a banged up, crooked cue with a mushroomed tip and pokes at the cue ball, doesn't stroke it, but somehow they all pot. Bad news.

Flex