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Rickw
03-26-2003, 01:33 PM
Can anyone recommend a really good cue? I'm primarily interested in how the cue hits. I don't care so much about the looks as much as the performance. I'm currently shooting with a Pechaur and I really like it except it's a little short for me. I have a long wing span and need a cue that's about 2 or 3 inches longer than the standard cue (57 to 59 inches). I'm leaning towards getting another Pechaur but I know this is going to cost a little more because of the customization, so before I lay out the cash, I'd like to know what other options are out there. Thanks.

czar
03-26-2003, 03:09 PM
I'm currently playing with a Dale Perry, the hit is incredibly solid!
Dave Jacoby is also a great guy to work with, very nice playing cues with great craftsmanship at reasonable prices. Check out their websites or email me for their phone numbers. Good luck in your search! Dave

carlton31698
03-26-2003, 03:33 PM
Get a longer shaft made for the cue you have. You can get one for around a $100.

AzHousePro
03-26-2003, 03:45 PM
Chucklez here on the site plays with a Jacoby that he really likes. I think he now plays 100% with the Jacoby instead of the Schon he owns.

I personally play with a Layani and I love it.

Mike

Beavis
03-26-2003, 06:59 PM
YES ! Our first cue argument on the new forum !

*snicker* Just kidding of course.

I think you would be much better getting a longer cue made rather than just a longer shaft. A long shaft on that cue would move the balance point.

Good luck !

bruin70
03-26-2003, 07:13 PM
this is only something YOU can decide for yourself. go to one of these expos, like valley forge, where you can try a vast array of cues in one venue.

Rickw
03-26-2003, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the feedback on cues! I did try getting a longer shaft for another cue that I have and like one of the posters said, it changed the balance point. That's why I really want a custom cue made to fit my needs appropriately. I sent an email to Dale Perry and am waiting for a response. I'm going to check out Jacobi cues too.

Again, thanks a lot!

Beavis
03-27-2003, 12:08 AM
Rick,

If you really, really love your cue.... You can have a custom cue maker add an inch and make ya some new longer shafts. It will cost ya, but if ya love the cue, its a way to go.

Chucklez65
03-27-2003, 06:08 AM
Like Mike said above, I have been playing with a Jacoby now for about a month, maybe a little longer and I put away the schon. I have used the Schon for about 12 years and I really enjoy the hit of the Jacoby cue and he will make custom cues as well.

Just an opinion.

Chucklez65

AzHousePro
03-27-2003, 11:58 AM
Speaking of cues, I have been thinking about adding a section to the forums where people can post pics of their cues. I think most all of us are very proud of the cues we use and this would be a place to let us all see what you have.

Maybe even post some pics of nice cues out there that you don't own. I know there are some pics of some beautiful Motteys up on ebay right now.

Anyone have any thoughts on the idea?

Mike

Cardinal_Syn
03-27-2003, 12:24 PM
that's a great idea....really great. :D
Originally posted by AzHousePro
Speaking of cues, I have been thinking about adding a section to the forums where people can post pics of their cues. I think most all of us are very proud of the cues we use and this would be a place to let us all see what you have.

Maybe even post some pics of nice cues out there that you don't own. I know there are some pics of some beautiful Motteys up on ebay right now.

Anyone have any thoughts on the idea?

Mike

Celtic
03-27-2003, 08:10 PM
Get a Mikkelsen. Custom cue maker in Canada. He is making unreal hitting cues that alot of the top players around Western Canada are using. He has made quite afew cues that are longer then the standard 58 inches.

Email me at Lyonspride@shaw.ca for more info if ya want.

bruin70
03-27-2003, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by AzHousePro
Speaking of cues, I have been thinking about adding a section to the forums where people can post pics of their cues. I think most all of us are very proud of the cues we use and this would be a place to let us all see what you have.

Maybe even post some pics of nice cues out there that you don't own. I know there are some pics of some beautiful Motteys up on ebay right now.

Anyone have any thoughts on the idea?

Mike

nice idea,,,,and different from other cue boards.

AzHousePro
03-28-2003, 01:33 AM
Are there other boards out there with a section like this? I frequent most of the billiards sites and hadn't seen anything like this.

Mike

Koop
03-28-2003, 06:41 AM
I love the idea Mike. I am in the process right now of trading my Schon for a custom Jacoby. I have heard nothing but good things from them and the Jacobys are a pleasure to deal with.

Koop

bruin70
03-28-2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by AzHousePro
Are there other boards out there with a section like this? I frequent most of the billiards sites and hadn't seen anything like this.

Mike

if you mean pool sites, i haven't seen any. if you mean other types of sites,,,,yes. if you mean pool sites with a section where people show and tell, i haven't seen any. it's a good way to evolve this site into a community "feel".

i also think, though, that the more community feel it becomes, the more you can expect threads to stray away from billiards.

AzHousePro
03-28-2003, 12:43 PM
That isn't really a terrible thing. My buddy runs one of the top Pittsburgh Steelers sites out there and his forums are a real community of Steelers fans.

It is amazing how much traffic his forums get.

Mike

bruin70
03-28-2003, 02:37 PM
you'll need an "off topic" forum, for sure.

AzHousePro
03-28-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by bruin70
you'll need an "off topic" forum, for sure.

Yeah, that would be needed. Lets see how bad we are about staying on topic here before we add an 'off topic' area.

Mike

Warren
03-29-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by AzHousePro
Are there other boards out there with a section like this? I frequent most of the billiards sites and hadn't seen anything like this.

Mike


yeah, easypooltutor has a section on their forums devoted to cues, and its one of the most popular sections. its a good idea, i'd roll with it.

the question i'd pose is will azbilliards offer the space to host the images? the pics that sometimes get posted on the EPT forum are all hosted somewhere else. that limits the actual use of the forum for posting pics, so most of it is just talking.

oh, and an FYI you may want to include for such a forum. i got this info from sean at cueaddicts.com, i asked him how the heck they got such nice pics, cause i was using a very nice digital camera and couldn't get anything remotely close. they actually use a scanner, not a camera to get the pics! maybe everyone already knows that, but it was news to me (and judging by most of the pics on ebay, they didn't realize it either).

warren..

bruin70
03-29-2003, 02:37 AM
there should be a forum for announcements, so that koreandragon can post there. CW never friggin' replies to anyone.

Adanac67
03-29-2003, 08:32 AM
UNBELIEVEABLE!! :confused: All of these posts and not one mention of the best hitting cue ever invented. PREDATOR. You can get a great hitting cue for around $300. Check it out, it's what a majority of serious players are now playing with.

Rickw
03-29-2003, 11:22 AM
I have a Predator shaft on my Pechaur. I actually prefer the Pechaur shaft. Not everyone likes that stiff Predator hit. It's really hard for me to explain but when you find a cue that hits really well, it's a sweet feeling. It accentuates your stroke. You feel like the cue is an extension of you. I don't get that feeling from Predators. There's no doubt the Predator has a solid hit, but having a solid hit isn't the answer for me. If you're lucky, one day you'll find that cue that gives you the feeling I described above and you'll know what I'm talking about. Hope you find it!

bruin70
03-29-2003, 01:23 PM
i have a predator shaft. liked it for a while, but didn't like the sound. and since i miscue a lot, this was a no go for me.

and btw, the best hittin' cues ever are my craig peterson cues:):D:):D:):D

AzHousePro
03-29-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Warren
the question i'd pose is will azbilliards offer the space to host the images? the pics that sometimes get posted on the EPT forum are all hosted somewhere else. that limits the actual use of the forum for posting pics, so most of it is just talking.


Warren, I don't see any problem with hosting the pics here. When we moved to this software, we also moved the site to a new server and we have quite a bit of hard drive space available.

Mike

AzHousePro
03-29-2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Adanac67
UNBELIEVEABLE!! :confused: All of these posts and not one mention of the best hitting cue ever invented. PREDATOR. You can get a great hitting cue for around $300. Check it out, it's what a majority of serious players are now playing with.

I used to shoot with a Predator and I liked it a lot. I recently switched to a Layani and Thierry was good enough to custom fit one of his joints on to a Predator shaft for me. I think it hits like a dream.

My wife shoots with a Predator and swears by it.

Mike

Adanac67
03-30-2003, 01:38 AM
i have a predator shaft. liked it for a while, but didn't like the sound. and since i miscue a lot, this was a no go for me.

Yes sir. Miscueing is most definitely the shafts fault!!!!

THE SILENCER
03-30-2003, 08:27 AM
in my 25 years of playing pool here is my honest opinion on selecting a great hitting cue. forget about price and forget about the brand. they are NOT i repeat NOT important. the only 3 things that matters is this---- a fantastic balence. if the balence isn't "there" you'll never play to your full potential. now, what constitues a fantastic balence? that's really up to you. but most experts agree, a cue that is NOT bottom heavy is a great place to start. i personally love a cue that is very light, with just a touch of meat to it. i play with a 17oz. cue. next, a shaft that is totally 100% clean. when your shaft is perfectly clean, it changes your game for the better. just a touch of grime of any kind, will ruin your great feeling. i use a wet paper towel, followed by a vigiours rub down with a dry one, followed by a rub down with a piece of #600 sandpaper. and lastly, but perhaps most important-- the tip. the tip is the only part of your $7000 cue that will touch the cue ball. please read this sentence 10 times slowly to yourself, and you'll see what i mean by ignoring, brand and price of cues. my personal favorite tip in the world is a triangle. it is hard, without miscueing, and performs on the dime. so, when shopping around for a new cue, try not to spend over $300 it is just a waste of money that you could have spent on instructional videos.

dennis
04-01-2003, 06:59 PM
You can buy a 1500.00 custom cue and play twice with it and know its just not right.Yet you find that off brand no name that feels like butter in your hands and voila' your game will improve by leaps and bounds.I am speaking from experience,I was heart
broken when the tip came off my sixty dollar viper.I dont think it will ever be the same again?!later ,dennis:D

Bluewolf
04-01-2003, 08:19 PM
Speaking of cues, I have been thinking about adding a section to the forums where people can post pics of their cues. I think most all of us are very proud of the cues we use and this would be a place to let us all see what you have.

Maybe even post some pics of nice cues out there that you don't own. I know there are some pics of some beautiful Motteys up on ebay right now.

Anyone have any thoughts on the idea?

Mike

Super idea!!! I now that I am very proud of my cue and feel that othres are too.

Laura

bruin70
04-02-2003, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by THE SILENCER
....the only 3 things that matters is this---- a fantastic balence.,,,,,,,next, a shaft that is totally 100% clean. when your shaft is perfectly clean, it changes your game for the better. ,,,,a rub down with a piece of #600 sandpaper. and lastly, but perhaps most important-- the tip..

no one should have to resort to sandpaper of any grit, except for maybe the first time if they want to get the shaft smoother than what was delivered by the cuemaker. i go from 1500-8000 grit. after that, the simple cleaning that you mentioned is enough to burnish the shaft smooth with no need for sandpaper ever again.

there's a lot more to a cue than the obvious areas you mentioned. a cue plays from tip to butt,,,,and you can't leave out the personality of the joint when defining the hit of a cue.

Matt_24
04-02-2003, 01:42 PM
I have a very expensive Tim Scruggs w/ a predator shaft that I bought for it. Honestly, I didn't like the Scruggs shaft at all. I didn't even play with it until I bought a Predator for it. The predator took about 3 weeks for me to get used to, but once I did, there is nothing else I would rather play with. It just hits perfect and consistent every time. If anything goes wrong it is never the shafts fault..it is always mine. I just have a huge amount of confidence in it. My buddy had to sell his super nice Nova and wanted my recommendation for a nice inexpensive cue. I recommended a Predator sneaky pete for about 300 bucks. He bought one with a Moori tip and shoots better with it than he ever did with his other cue that he paid 5 times that 300 for. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. :cool:

Bluewolf
04-02-2003, 05:09 PM
Someone mentioned Charlie Williams in another thread. Could his pool school announcements, trick shot shows etc be included in the same thread as the thread for tournaments?

This forum seems to be starting out nice. I would hate to see it get 'messy' if you know what I mean.

Laura

Bluewolf
04-02-2003, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by AzHousePro
That isn't really a terrible thing. My buddy runs one of the top Pittsburgh Steelers sites out there and his forums are a real community of Steelers fans.

It is amazing how much traffic his forums get.

Mike

I think it works as long as it is a small group of pool friends. When it gets too big, that seems to me where the problems get to be an issue with non pool related stuff and flaming.

This forum does seem to have the potential of that community feel you speak of.

Laura

Bluewolf
04-02-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by bruin70
i have a predator shaft. liked it for a while, but didn't like the sound. and since i miscue a lot, this was a no go for me.

and btw, the best hittin' cues ever are my craig peterson cues:):D:):D:):D

A lot of people like the predator cues. I have one myself. I play with a Blackheart custom. I think the predator is fine, but it is back balanced and I seem to do better with a middle balance cue. For that reason, the Blackheart suits me better.

As a relative beginner, when I was first trying to decide on a cue,sometimes one seemed better, sometimes another seemed better and sometimes they seemed the same.

It took me awhile of holding different cues to decide what was best for me.

I think that a more experienced pool player may not go through the initial indecision that I did.;)

Laura

boarwolf
04-02-2003, 07:10 PM
Laura, Charlie's posts belong in the "for sale" forum. I think this thread was about cues until you appeared. Only 4 posts to this thread? You are slipping. Two of them even mentioned cues!
BW

dennis
04-02-2003, 07:33 PM
I like the format,and the people seem to be real helpful.Not a bunch of condescending horse's rears.later,dennis

Rickw
04-04-2003, 09:00 AM
Well, I just plunked my money down on a Dave Jacoby cue. I ordered a 60" cue with a leather wrap. I told them my overriding concern is performance. I don't care that much about the looks. I don't want a bunch of inlays that do nothing to improve the hit. When I walk into a strange pool room, I want to pull that non-descript cue out of my case, and I want the other players to look and shrug their shoulders dismissing me. Then, when they hear the oh-so-sweet sound of that crisp hit that we all have recognized once or twice in the past, I want them to turn around and watch me with amazement as I sweetly deposit every ball in their assigned pockets with soulful precision and skill. When one of them approaches me with awe and admiration, and they ask me which one of the pool gods I am, I'll simply reply, "It's not me, it's this fantastic cue I got. I put it in my hands and the magic just starts." You think I'm expecting too much from this cue? Oh well, it's fun to dream. This dream comes right after my lotto-winning dream.

Thanks all for the advice on cues! I'll let you know if dream # 2 comes true later.