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BarTableMan
11-02-2015, 09:55 AM
I have an old custom cue with a large 3/8x10 pin into wood that is now quite loose due to age. Any help out there for getting those threads tighter? I have heard that adding paste car wax with a q-tip works. Anything else? Thanks to all.

PhilosopherKing
11-02-2015, 09:59 AM
I have an old custom cue with a large 3/8x10 pin into wood that is now quite loose due to age. Any help out there for getting those threads tighter? I have heard that adding paste car wax with a q-tip works. Anything else? Thanks to all.
The shaft can be plugged and rethreaded.

Poolshootindon
11-02-2015, 10:18 AM
I have an old custom cue with a large 3/8x10 pin into wood that is now quite loose due to age. Any help out there for getting those threads tighter? I have heard that adding paste car wax with a q-tip works. Anything else? Thanks to all.

I'd suggest having a cue builder remove the pin and put a new pin in.

Don

Shawn Armstrong
11-02-2015, 10:58 AM
I have an old custom cue with a large 3/8x10 pin into wood that is now quite loose due to age. Any help out there for getting those threads tighter? I have heard that adding paste car wax with a q-tip works. Anything else? Thanks to all.

Where is the pin loose? Threads have become sloppy in the shaft?

BarTableMan
11-02-2015, 01:35 PM
The shaft threads have worn down. The pin is fine.

Shawn Armstrong
11-02-2015, 01:48 PM
The shaft threads have worn down. The pin is fine.

The wax, or water in the threads is a short term fix. You can put water down the hole, and it will swell the threads back up, and tighten the shaft up a little/lot. The problem is, the shaft threads will swell and contract with the seasons, and humidity changes. The BEST fix is to take it to a reputable (key word) repair guy, have him drill out the shaft, put a phenolic insert into the shaft, and drill and tap new threads into it. That will make the threads hold up for as long as you want to keep the cue.

Hope that helps.

desi2960
11-02-2015, 02:29 PM
that might change the hit.

Shawn Armstrong
11-02-2015, 02:38 PM
that might change the hit.


If anything, it will improve the hit. Changing the insert doesn't do much to change the hit. Changing the ring material or the ferrule material will. Most guys working with 3/8-10 threads will put an insert in, these days. It eliminates stripped threads, or the problem the OP is encountering.

martymower
11-02-2015, 02:45 PM
IF the cue is not high dollar use Loctite form a thread stripped thread repair and be using cue in less than an hour

bdorman
11-02-2015, 03:00 PM
The wax, or water in the threads is a short term fix. You can put water down the hole, and it will swell the threads back up, and tighten the shaft up a little/lot. The problem is, the shaft threads will swell and contract with the seasons, and humidity changes. The BEST fix is to take it to a reputable (key word) repair guy, have him drill out the shaft, put a phenolic insert into the shaft, and drill and tap new threads into it. That will make the threads hold up for as long as you want to keep the cue.

Hope that helps.

I had this done by Rick at Seybert's and he did a fine job.

The previous owner of the shaft had tried to screw it onto a 3/8x11 pin and striped out the threads. It was a trade...my shaft for his...and he forgot to mention it. :angry:

realkingcobra
11-02-2015, 03:32 PM
The shaft threads have worn down. The pin is fine.

Take some teflon tape, tear off 2 pieces, place them like an X across the thread hole in the shaft, use a pencil to push the tape down into the hole to the bottom, leaving the excess overhanging the shaft, the screw the butt into the shaft, trim off the excess tape, it'll stay in the shaft when you take it apart too.

chefjeff
11-02-2015, 03:55 PM
Let me help you with two ways in one:

http://swittersb.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/duct-tape-3.jpg


You're welcome,

Jeff Livingston

Black-Balled
11-02-2015, 03:57 PM
Is it loose when screwed together? If not, no problem.

mortuarymike-nv
11-02-2015, 04:40 PM
Pour thin super glue down over the old threads then after the glue dries re- thread the threads, repeat process until threads are tight................
ABC simple ...............................

ctyhntr
11-02-2015, 06:35 PM
Would this still work if the threads are completely worn out? Meaning I can never tighten the shaft, it keeps spinning around. Also, would it cause more work if I have the shaft re-plugged and tapped. Like when people use fix-a-flat cans, and it leaves that gunk all inside the tire.

Pour thin super glue down over the old threads then after the glue dries re- thread the threads, repeat process until threads are tight................
ABC simple ...............................

erhino41
11-02-2015, 06:54 PM
If it is completely stripped then that won't work. Have it plugged and rethreaded. If you like the hit I would use maple or whatever the shaft is made of. You could use some other materiel i.e. phenolic, but the maple should give you a hit closer to what your used to.

mortuarymike-nv
11-02-2015, 07:48 PM
Would this still work if the threads are completely worn out? Meaning I can never tighten the shaft, it keeps spinning around. Also, would it cause more work if I have the shaft re-plugged and tapped. Like when people use fix-a-flat cans, and it leaves that gunk all inside the tire.


Wood threads stripped out.

No I don't think you can make threads once they are full stripped out.
The time to super glue the threads is when they get loose or the first time you notice the wood threads falling out if the shaft.
Almost all of my cues are 3/8x 10 pin .
I have new shaft in stock and some 3rd turn blanks ready to go.

I haven't had any problems with the threads I have put super glue on and gunk falling out .


I Also have some 15 GRPI or better straight grained old growth maple dowel I have been sitting on for 14 years .


I can bore plug drill tape and face the shaft for 50 bucks just like down town .
On a solid maple shaft, if its laminated LD I will pass on the job .

Keith E.
11-03-2015, 05:07 AM
As noted numerous times above- Open it up, properly fit a plug/dowel of whatever material you and you cuesmith agree upon, drill/thread it, face it, get back to shooting. Most importantly, remember the guy you traded with, forever.

Keith