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AtLarge
11-02-2015, 12:31 PM
With the 2015 Mosconi Cup event coming up in a few weeks, I thought it would be interesting again this year to examine the career Mosconi-Cup records of this year's players. Wikipedia shows all the match results from prior events (except 2014), so I used that information to compile the combined records for each player.

Although I haven't yet seen official announcements as to who is on the teams, AzB posters have said the teams will be Van Boening, Deuel, Dechaine, Bergman, and Woodward for the USA and Feijen, Appleton, van den Berg, Boyes, and Ouschan for Europe. If that proves to be inaccurate, I will update this post accordingly.

The USA team will enter the event with a combined 19 years of Cup experience, compared to 25 years for Team Europe. One player on each team is a Cup rookie.

For the following records, I counted a full win or loss for each player in a doubles' or trebles' match (i.e., not splitting the point into halves or thirds), and a win and a loss for everyone in a team match (i.e., not splitting the point into fifths or sixths). So these numbers essentially answer the question: "In how many winning and losing matches was each player involved?"

Team USA

• Shane Van Boening (8 years -- 2007-2014) ..... 9-12 singles, 9-10 doubles, 3-5 teams, 21-27 total (winning percentage of 44%)

• Corey Deuel (8 years -- 2000-2002, 2006-2007, 2009-2010, 2014) ..... 6-6 singles, 13-9 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 4-2 teams, 25-17 total (60%)

• Mike Dechaine (2 years -- 2011, 2012) ..... 1-3 singles, 1-4 doubles, 1-1 teams, 3-8 total (27%)

• Justin Bergman (1 year -- 2014) ..... 0-2 singles, 1-1 doubles, 0-1 teams, 1-4 total (20%)

• Skyler Woodward (0 years -- rookie)

• Team USA Total ..... 16-23 singles, 24-24 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 8-9 teams, 50-56 total (47%)

Team Europe

• Niels Feijen (10 years -- 2001, 2004-2005, 2007-2009, 2011-2014) ..... 8-8 singles, 21-8 doubles, 4-3 teams, 33-19 total (63%)

• Darren Appleton (6 years -- 2009-2014) ..... 8-3 singles, 7-11 doubles, 4-2 teams, 19-16 total (54%)

• Nick van den Berg (6 years -- 2002-2003, 2006, 2010-2012) ..... 6-7 singles, 6-9 doubles, 0-2 trebles, 2-3 teams, 14-21 total (40%)

• Karl Boyes (3 years -- 2010, 2013-2014) ..... 3-1 singles, 7-2 doubles, 3-0 team, 13-3 total (81%)

• Albin Ouschan (0 years -- rookie)

• Team Europe Total ..... 25-19 singles, 41-30 doubles, 0-2 trebles, 13-8 teams, 79-59 total (57%)


Another way of looking at the records is to count a full point for each player in a singles win or loss, a half a point for each player in a doubles win or loss, a third of a point for each player in a trebles (played only in 2006) win or loss, and one-fifth of a point (one-sixth in 2006 when the teams had 6 players) for each player in a team win or loss. So the following numbers essentially answer the question: "What numerical contribution has each player made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores?"

Team USA

• Van Boening ..... 14.1 - 18.0 (winning percentage 44%)
• Deuel ..... 13.9 - 10.9 (56%)
• Dechaine ..... 1.7 - 5.2 (25%)
• Bergman ..... 0.5 - 2.7 (16%)
• Woodward

• Team USA Total ..... 30.2 - 36.8 (45%)

Team Europe

• Feijen ..... 19.3 - 12.6 (61%)
• Appleton ..... 12.3 - 8.9 (58%)
• van den Berg ..... 9.4 - 12.7 (43%)
• Boyes ..... 7.1 - 2.0 (78%)
• Ouschan

• Team Europe Total ..... 48.1 - 36.2 (57%)

billiardthought
11-02-2015, 12:49 PM
This is all very informative.

When I was young, I was at the state fair where I watched a sort of gambling game. You had to purchase tokens, and you could then bet with these tokens when a man would roll a six sided dice, with a color on each side. I would watch and watch, and inning after inning the dice would not land on green. I would go up to him and bet on green. After losing a majority of my tokens, I realized the dice did not have memory of it's previous outcomes.

AtLarge
11-02-2015, 12:50 PM
This is all very informative.

When I was young, I was at the state fair where I watched a sort of gambling game. You had to purchase tokens, and you could then bet with these tokens when a man would roll a six sided dice, with a color on each side. I would watch and watch, and inning after inning the dice would not land on green. I would go up to him and bet on green. After losing a majority of my tokens, I realized the dice did not have memory of it's previous outcomes.

But pool players do. And some let it affect them (for better or worse).


[I take it you think the outcomes of Mosconi Cup matches are equivalent to coin flips.]

fat Albert
11-02-2015, 04:31 PM
The winning percentages are very telling and basically explain the results every year as of late. As well the years of experience the Euros come in with compared to USA is significantly more. A case could be made that selections based more on experience and winning percentage rather than emotions or popularity would be in order to turn the tide. It seems to be working for the Euros.

AtLarge
12-10-2015, 09:15 PM
Last month, prior to this year's event, I posted the career Mosconi Cup records of this year's 10 players. Here's the update adding in the 2015 results.

For the following records, I counted a full win or loss for each player in each match (i.e., not splitting the point into fifths or sixths for teams matches, or thirds for trebles matches, or halves for doubles matches). So these numbers essentially answer the question: "In how many winning and losing matches was each player involved?"

Team USA

Shane Van Boening (9 years -- 2007-2015) ..... 10-14 singles, 11-11 doubles, 4-5 teams, 25-30 total (winning percentage of 45%)

Corey Deuel (9 years -- 2000-2002, 2006-2007, 2009-2010, 2014-2015) ..... 7-6 singles, 13-12 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 5-2 teams, 27-20 total (57%)

Mike Dechaine (3 years -- 2011, 2012, 2015) ..... 1-4 singles, 2-6 doubles, 2-1 teams, 5-11 total (31%)

Justin Bergman (2 years -- 2014-2015) ..... 1-4 singles, 2-2 doubles, 1-1 teams, 4-7 total (36%)

Skyler Woodward (1 year -- 2015) ..... 0-2 singles, 2-1 doubles, 1-0 teams, 3-3 total (50%)

Team USA Total ..... 19-30 singles, 30-32 doubles, 2-0 trebles, 13-9 teams, 64-71 total (47%)

Team Europe

Niels Feijen (11 years -- 2001, 2004-2005, 2007-2009, 2011-2015) ..... 11-8 singles, 22-9 doubles, 4-4 teams, 37-21 total (64%)

Darren Appleton (7 years -- 2009-2015) ..... 9-4 singles, 8-13 doubles, 4-3 teams, 21-20 total (51%)

Nick van den Berg (7 years -- 2002-2003, 2006, 2010-2012, 2015) ..... 6-8 singles, 7-11 doubles, 0-2 trebles, 2-4 teams, 15-25 total (38%)

Karl Boyes (4 years -- 2010, 2013-2015) ..... 4-2 singles, 10-2 doubles, 3-1 team, 17-5 total (77%)

Albin Ouschan (1 year -- 2015) ..... 2-0 singles, 2-1 doubles, 0-1 teams, 4-2 total (67%)

Team Europe Total ..... 32-22 singles, 49-36 doubles, 0-2 trebles, 13-13 teams, 94-73 total (56%)


Another way of looking at the records is to count a full point for each player in a singles win or loss, a half a point for each player in a doubles win or loss, a third of a point for each player in a trebles (played only in 2006) win or loss, and one-fifth of a point (one-sixth in 2006 when the teams had 6 players) for each player in a team win or loss. So the following numbers essentially answer the question: "What numerical contribution has each player made to the overall Mosconi Cup match scores?"

Team USA

Van Boening ..... 16.3 - 20.5 (winning percentage 44%)
Deuel ..... 15.1 - 12.4 (55%)
Dechaine ..... 2.4 - 7.2 (25%)
Bergman ..... 2.2 - 5.2 (30%)
Woodward ..... 1.2 - 2.5 (32%)

Team USA Total ..... 37.2 - 47.8 (44%)

Team Europe

Feijen ..... 22.8 - 13.3 (63%)
Appleton ..... 13.8 - 11.1 (55%)
van den Berg ..... 9.9 - 14.9 (40%)
Boyes ..... 9.6 - 3.2 (75%)
Ouschan ..... 3.0 - 0.7 (81%)

Team Europe Total ..... 59.1 - 43.2 (58%)