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BeiberLvr
11-03-2015, 01:09 PM
Wins the us open and then doesn't do anything at Steinway

pretty sure Sam lambert could beat him with the 5 out.

BasementDweller
11-03-2015, 01:32 PM
Variance...

Shawn Armstrong
11-03-2015, 01:36 PM
Wins the us open and then doesn't do anything at Steinway

pretty sure Sam lambert could beat him with the 5 out.

But does he have $100k to back that up?

snucar
11-03-2015, 01:45 PM
But does he have $100k to back that up?

Rumors say he has an uncle named Christopher...

poolplaya1976
11-03-2015, 01:54 PM
Wins the us open and then doesn't do anything at Steinway

pretty sure Sam lambert could beat him with the 5 out.

nice post troll....I am sure sam could beat you with the 5 out

Eric.
11-03-2015, 01:55 PM
Wins the us open and then doesn't do anything at Steinway

pretty sure Sam lambert could beat him with the 5 out.

That is very unfair to Sam Lambert. Didn't you read his blog?? He has only been playing for 3.5 months. Sam only beats the 4 ball ghost, now, after 3.5 months.

Wait till Sam has 13.5 months in. He should be 4 times as good as he is now, he's THAT talented.

poolplaya1976
11-03-2015, 02:01 PM
That is very unfair to Sam Lambert. Didn't you read his blog?? He has only been playing for 3.5 months. Sam only beats the 4 ball ghost, now, after 3.5 months.

Wait till Sam has 13.5 months in. He should be 4 times as good as he is now, he's THAT talented.

wow I never thought we would get a sam lambert nuthugger

sjm
11-03-2015, 02:14 PM
Two and out at the Gotham and two and out at Steinway, with a US Open win in between.

Cheng is complicated, but as Barry Behrman rightly noted on the first day of the US Open, anyone can catch a stroke at a moment's notice, mentioning Tommy Kennedy and Reed Pierce as two previous Cinderellas at the US Open.

Let's give him his due and we'll see what he accomplishes in the next year or two.

Eric.
11-03-2015, 02:19 PM
wow I never thought we would get a sam lambert nuthugger

My bad, I shoulda put a smiley face in, after my post, haha.


Eric >was tryin to be funny

HawaiianEye
11-03-2015, 02:23 PM
He's just another banger....must have gotten lucky in the Open.

:) :) :)

gxman
11-03-2015, 02:26 PM
Two and out at the Gotham and two and out at Steinway, with a US Open win in between.

Cheng is complicated, but as Barry Behrman rightly noted on the first day of the US Open, anyone can catch a stroke at a moment's notice, mentioning Tommy Kennedy and Reed Pierce as two previous Cinderellas at the US Open.

Let's give him his due and we'll see what he accomplishes in the next year or two.

Cheng also won the Minyu(sp?) tournament in which he beat Wu in the finals for 30K. Also in the tournament was Big Ko and I'm sure a whole slew of Chinese/Taiwan players.

With that said, I still think he's a hair or two below the Ko brothers and the Chang guys.

Shane and Dennis didn't fair well at Steinway either. So just b/c a player is a top 5 guy in the world, hes still vulnerable to get beat in a race to 9.

snucar
11-03-2015, 02:45 PM
Cheng also won the Minyu(sp?) tournament in which he beat Wu in the finals for 30K.

That alone speaks volumes for the guy, as I consider Wu the best player on the planet. Heck, if Corey Deuel can win the US Open, why not Cheng?

gxman
11-03-2015, 02:48 PM
I dont pretend like I know who was playing back then, but I imagine the field was much weaker than 2015.

SUPERSTAR
11-03-2015, 02:52 PM
What is the lighting and equipment like at Steinway and Gotham?

Also, let's make one thing perfectly clear.
Weekend regional events are not always about who is the best pool player, and a lot of times are about who is the best pool player that isn't falling apart at the moment. Endurance is a huge factor.

Couple of days of playing all day, will take it out of you.
As well as waking up early and having to play and not really being 100% because you still want to sleep.
Lots of factors.

LIAKOS27
11-03-2015, 02:53 PM
From reading the posts, I can only ask how much was the prize money for the to tourneys he 2 stepped? Is it possible he is only motivated by the prize money?

I know when I would gamble for 20-50 dollar sets, I played at a certain level. Then when the bet got up there, it was a different story! Just ask in:)

BJTyler
11-03-2015, 02:58 PM
I dont pretend like I know who was playing back then, but I imagine the field was much weaker than 2015.

Corey beat Earl, Ralph, Parica, and Mika...pretty strong run if you ask me.

BJTyler
11-03-2015, 03:16 PM
From reading the posts, I can only ask how much was the prize money for the to tourneys he 2 stepped? Is it possible he is only motivated by the prize money?


...here you go.

Miyun Intl - First Prize $31,000 - 1st
Gotham - First Prize $7,500 - 2 & out
US Open - First Prize $40,000 - 1st
Steinway - First Prize $10,000 - 2 & out

poolplaya1976
11-03-2015, 03:18 PM
...here you go.

Miyun Intl - First Prize $31,000 - 1st
Gotham - First Prize $7,500 - 2 & out
US Open - First Prize $40,000 - 1st
Steinway - First Prize $10,000 - 2 & out

then why even enter the smaller tournaments? does seem to show up for the big cash though

BJTyler
11-03-2015, 03:21 PM
then why even enter the smaller tournaments?

Could be for the action? or maybe there's just nothing good on tv?

LIAKOS27
11-03-2015, 03:22 PM
...here you go.

Miyun Intl - First Prize $31,000 - 1st
Gotham - First Prize $7,500 - 2 & out
US Open - First Prize $40,000 - 1st
Steinway - First Prize $10,000 - 2 & out

I haven't seen him really play much but I think he's my new idol:)

AtLarge
11-03-2015, 03:23 PM
From reading the posts, I can only ask how much was the prize money for the to tourneys he 2 stepped? Is it possible he is only motivated by the prize money?

I know when I would gamble for 20-50 dollar sets, I played at a certain level. Then when the bet got up there, it was a different story! Just ask in:)

The Gotham City Pro Classic paid $7,500 for first. The Steinway Classic advertised $10,000 for first. In the pool world, that's pretty good for 2 or 3 day events.

Edit -- Oops, I see someone else already provided the answer.

gxman
11-03-2015, 03:24 PM
Anyone knows who beat him in those 2 events?

I know Cheng lost to Big Ko at Steinway.

ga9ball
11-03-2015, 03:29 PM
Plays jam up, and if you don't think so, put your $$$$$$$ where your Mouth is!

BJTyler
11-03-2015, 03:31 PM
I haven't seen him really play much but I think he's my new idol:)

Btw...Is this the same "Sean" Cheng that took 2nd in the 2012 BCA national tournament OPEN division!!

AtLarge
11-03-2015, 03:37 PM
Anyone knows who beat him in those 2 events?

I know Cheng lost to Big Ko at Steinway.

Yes, At Steinway Cheng went -- Bye, loss to Ko Pin-Yi, loss to Marco Teutscher.

For Gotham, I don't know.

one stroke
11-03-2015, 03:48 PM
That alone speaks volumes for the guy, as I consider Wu the best player on the planet. Heck, if Corey Deuel can win the US Open, why not Cheng?
If Corey can win one lol. He was pretty sporty back then

2002 IBC Tour Stop 1 winner (Shirahima, Japan)[16]
2002 UPA Atlanta Pro Open winner[16]
2001 US Open Nine-ball Championship[17]
2001 Greater Columbus Open, Open Division winner[17]
2001 Reno Open Nine-ball Champion[17]
2001 BCA Open Nine-ball Champion, Men's Division[17]
2001 ESPN Sudden Death Seven-ball winner[17]
2001 All-Japan Nine-ball Champion, Open Division[17]


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MiscueBlues
11-03-2015, 04:04 PM
Yes that us open champ... Totally overrated. Lols.


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snucar
11-03-2015, 04:06 PM
If Corey can win one lol. He was pretty sporty back then

2002 IBC Tour Stop 1 winner (Shirahima, Japan)[16]
2002 UPA Atlanta Pro Open winner[16]
2001 US Open Nine-ball Championship[17]
2001 Greater Columbus Open, Open Division winner[17]
2001 Reno Open Nine-ball Champion[17]
2001 BCA Open Nine-ball Champion, Men's Division[17]
2001 ESPN Sudden Death Seven-ball winner[17]
2001 All-Japan Nine-ball Champion, Open Division[17]


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One good year does not cancel the mediocrity of his entire career. Peach has won a WC, should I try to sell him as a great champion?

one stroke
11-03-2015, 04:18 PM
One good year does not cancel the mediocrity of his entire career. Peach has won a WC, should I try to sell him as a great champion?

Ya you should because he was at that time ,, why do you think his name always comes up in MC teams , or conversations about being innovative ,, the only one who kept Corey from winning a whole Lot more was Corey


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terryhanna
11-03-2015, 04:24 PM
The sports book betting service had Cheng at 33/1 odds in US Open seems like they might have underrated him a bit :shocked2:

snucar
11-03-2015, 04:25 PM
why do you think his name always comes up in MC teams , or conversations about being innovative ,,

Because you don't have better players maybe? Because USA's pool player quality is not what it used to be maybe?



the only one who kept Corey from winning a whole Lot more was Corey


I'd say it was a whole bunch of FAR better players.

PoolBum
11-03-2015, 04:28 PM
Being overrated is clearly overrated.

LIAKOS27
11-03-2015, 04:33 PM
Ya you should because he was at that time ,, why do you think his name always comes up in MC teams , or conversations about being innovative ,, the only one who kept Corey from winning a whole Lot more was Corey


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And anyone who thinks otherwise is sadly mistaken!

If Corey had the work ethic of Shane, Corey(IMHO) would of been the next efren!

Not to take anything away from Corey here, but he didn't try hard enough!

And honestly, I don't blame him or anyone. Maybe things would be different if the pool world was much more enticing($$$)!

My favorite player is Alex P. and if Corey gave it his all he would have Alex on a string! Kinda like the SVB and MD thing! MD may beat SVB here and there but SVB can lay a nasty game on MD!

Corey just sees things!

one stroke
11-03-2015, 04:58 PM
Because you don't have better players maybe? Because USA's pool player quality is not what it used to be maybe?





I'd say it was a whole bunch of FAR better players.

Are you sharing ?


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Worminator
11-03-2015, 05:23 PM
That is very unfair to Sam Lambert. Didn't you read his blog?? He has only been playing for 3.5 months. Sam only beats the 4 ball ghost, now, after 3.5 months.

Wait till Sam has 13.5 months in. He should be 4 times as good as he is now, he's THAT talented.


Dude wins a JB case after only 3 months o the forum.... he's THAT strong!

snucar
11-03-2015, 06:41 PM
Are you sharing ?


Sharing what?

Runner
11-03-2015, 08:22 PM
Rumors say he has an uncle named Christopher...

Hah! "THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!"

arps
11-03-2015, 09:06 PM
Wins the us open and then doesn't do anything at Steinway

pretty sure Sam lambert could beat him with the 5 out.

in case you did not know, he just won the recent CBSA Miyun Open in China against Wu. All the best in China and Taiwan were there (and Alcano, Corteza and Hijikata).
here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIo2YR7gGSc

JumpinJoe
11-03-2015, 09:57 PM
Btw...Is this the same "Sean" Cheng that took 2nd in the 2012 BCA national tournament OPEN division!!

Yes it is.
That is the year the 2 Taiwan guys got 1st and 2nd and did not get the money after the event. They forfeited them and redistributed the money that year after it was over.

Bigtruck
11-03-2015, 10:15 PM
Cheng won the White Diamonds event also in 2014. First paid about 35,000.

Here is one of his matches. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qkp_4SZPdY

Ray

JB Cases
11-04-2015, 07:42 AM
That is very unfair to Sam Lambert. Didn't you read his blog?? He has only been playing for 3.5 months. Sam only beats the 4 ball ghost, now, after 3.5 months.

Wait till Sam has 13.5 months in. He should be 4 times as good as he is now, he's THAT talented.

wow I never thought we would get a sam lambert nuthugger

Ok I am NOW convinced that poolplaya1976 is a forum newbie.