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Explosion Jones
11-04-2015, 06:53 PM
The magic rack is used pretty frequently these days. I know every table breaks differently, but is there a sweet spot when using the magic rack to get the 9 moving on the break? Hitting the 1 at a certain spot to create movement in the rack to increase the possibility of another ball kicking in the 9 perhaps?

Or should we just stick with the wired wing ball and the runout?

BlueCollarBar
11-04-2015, 08:03 PM
There is...

I doubt you are going to get anybody to tell you though.

BlueCollarBar
11-04-2015, 08:04 PM
I will say that it requires a power break but it can be done fairly consistently in the top corner.

Shawn Armstrong
11-05-2015, 05:29 AM
Fairly consistently? Care to estimate your percentage?

Black-Balled
11-05-2015, 07:57 AM
I believe that if used correctly- no gaps between balls- the 9 is staying around the rack, unless struck by another ball

BasementDweller
11-05-2015, 08:03 AM
In the Mosconi Cup last year the 9 was moving all over the place on the break. However, they didn't make it all that often.

They were breaking hard pretty straight on. The 2 was in the back of the rack and it would fly into the end rail and come back up and smack the 9 ball. The 9 would then go flying toward the corners at the head end of the table.

That's the best way I know of to get the 9 ball moving with another object ball. Of course you could try to get the cue ball to go back into the rack after the break but good luck with that.

Johnnyt
11-05-2015, 08:04 AM
I believe that if used correctly- no gaps between balls- the 9 is staying around the rack, unless struck by another ball

Agree...............Johnnyt

terryhanna
11-05-2015, 08:14 AM
In the Mosconi Cup last year the 9 was moving all over the place on the break. However, they didn't make it all that often.

They were breaking hard pretty straight on. The 2 was in the back of the rack and it would fly into the end rail and come back up and smack the 9 ball. The 9 would then go flying toward the corners at the head end of the table.

That's the best way I know of to get the 9 ball moving with another object ball. Of course you could try to get the cue ball to go back into the rack after the break but good luck with that.
They did not use magic rack at the Mosconi Cup last year

BogeyFree
11-05-2015, 10:22 AM
No way can you make the 9 "fairly consistently" anywhere. With a Magic Rack and all balls frozen the 9 will and should remain right around where it started unless it gets kicked which can't really be planned very well.

LIAKOS27
11-05-2015, 10:22 AM
With the balls properly racked, the 9 barely moves! With a fairly head on break, the back ball hits the end rail and comes back towards the 9 resulting in movement towards the top corner pocket! If i had to give a % how many times made,,,,, I'd say 5%! And that's with a very consisting break!

Despite what most people think, you can't always get a consistent rack with a magic rack! There is a lot more to it then just putting the balls in the slots. That's all I'm gonna say because I can write a novel on that subject;)

LIAKOS27
11-05-2015, 10:24 AM
Fairly consistently? Care to estimate your percentage?

The back ball hitting the 9, maybe 90% of the time. Making the 9, about 5%!

CokerFan82
11-05-2015, 10:43 AM
If the rack is very slightly tilted towards the bottom left or right corner, the 2 in the back will rebound of the foot cushion to combo the 9 ball in the adjacent corner pocket up table. You need to break within a couple inches of dead center head string or perfect center to keep whitey out of the way. It can happen a lot on a bar table if practiced, although you'll be frowned upon for attempting it lol! Happy Sh#tting the 9 ball in to yas 😂😂😂

AtLarge
11-05-2015, 01:03 PM
In the Mosconi Cup last year the 9 was moving all over the place on the break. However, they didn't make it all that often.

They were breaking hard pretty straight on. The 2 was in the back of the rack and it would fly into the end rail and come back up and smack the 9 ball. The 9 would then go flying toward the corners at the head end of the table.

That's the best way I know of to get the 9 ball moving with another object ball. Of course you could try to get the cue ball to go back into the rack after the break but good luck with that.

You're remembering 2013 rather than 2014. But in neither year was the Magic Rack used.

Last year, it was a triangle rack, 9-ball on the spot, break from anywhere behind the line. Only one 9-ball was made in 119 breaks.

In 2013, it was a triangle rack, 9-ball on the spot, break from a narrow break box (about 6" to each side of center). They had an agreement to use a power break, and successful breaks (make at least one ball without fouling) were so rare (33%) that it became a search for how to make the 2-ball bound off the foot rail and kick the 9-ball into a side pocket or a head pocket. Even so, the 9-ball was made on the break just 5 times in 125 breaks (4%).