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Poolmanis
11-06-2015, 12:20 PM
Could someone Chinakov vs. SVB race to 30 updates?
I'm working and my Windows phone does not work with streams...

Neil
11-06-2015, 12:20 PM
4-2 SVB ahead.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 12:29 PM
5-3 Shane.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 12:39 PM
6-4 Shane.

Poolmanis
11-06-2015, 01:12 PM
Thanks! How is break working for them?

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 01:18 PM
Shane is down 9-7. No balls are automatic on the break.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 01:19 PM
SVB down 9-8.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 01:25 PM
Ruslan "I'm Hustlin'" Chinahov back up by two, 10-8.

july9x
11-06-2015, 01:26 PM
Could someone Chinakov vs. SVB race to 30 updates?
I'm working and my Windows phone does not work with streams...

Windows phone can't stream youtube live, sell that phone already! :angry:

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 01:29 PM
The last I saw Ruslan went up 10-8 then took a break.
I saw Shane miss a 9 ball a few racks back, and gave Ruslan some momentum. I hope the entire match is up on genipool later. Lots of technical errors in the stream, maybe they are working out the kinks for the big tournament tomorrow?

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 01:34 PM
The table looks pretty tight. Both players are missing balls.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 01:36 PM
10-9 Hustlin' Ruslan.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 01:39 PM
Nice B&R from Shane to tie it at 10-10.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 02:00 PM
Shane misses a cross-side bank on the 8. Chinahov misses the 8. SVB goes back in front 12-11.

Poolmanis
11-06-2015, 02:14 PM
10-9 Hustlin' Ruslan.

Nice nickname there.. If he does not have one yet..

Thx PoolBum for updates.

I'm rooting for Shane but Ruslan is funny guy also.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 02:38 PM
Tied up at 15-15.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 02:56 PM
Rusky is up 17-15.

Poolmanis
11-06-2015, 02:58 PM
Wow. This gonna be a thriller.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:00 PM
Another B&R from Chinahov to go up 18-15.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:03 PM
And another. 19-15 Chinahov.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:09 PM
20-15, Ruslan running away with it.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:13 PM
21-15 Ruslan.

NYC cue dude
11-06-2015, 03:15 PM
21-15 Ruslan.

Anyone have a working link? Mine died.

spartan
11-06-2015, 03:16 PM
Ruslan is breaking good
Always ball down, shot on 1 and CB away from rails
Rack 36 could be turning point
Ruslan breaks witgh shot on 1 but no pocket
He plays nice beautiful safe hiding 1
Shane takes long shot and misses completely giving BIH
Ruslan runs out for 21-15
Cannot give BIH to Russian Ruslan :grin:

spartan
11-06-2015, 03:17 PM
Anyone have a working link? Mine died.

Use the Russian link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8el5jRnRuc

NYC cue dude
11-06-2015, 03:19 PM
Use the Russian link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8el5jRnRuc

Thank you.....

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:19 PM
Ruslan misses the 5 and Shane gets a game back, 21-16.

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 03:22 PM
I haven't watched the entire match, but it looks like Shane has changed his break up. Maybe the "Russian rules" 10-ball break has played a part?

spartan
11-06-2015, 03:27 PM
Shane breaks dry
Plays pushout , Ruslan gives back. Shane plays ncie safe tie up wth 9, Rusland misses and BIH for Shane to nice run out but misses 4. Ruslan runs out for 22-16
This is like Race to 14 with Ruslan leading 6-0
:D

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:27 PM
Shane misses the 4 ball and Ruslan runs out to go up 22-16.

kagewest
11-06-2015, 03:28 PM
Shane breaks dry
Plays pushout , Ruslan gives back. Shane plays ncie safe tie up wth 9, Rusland misses and BIH for Shane to nice run out but misses 4. Ruslan runs out for 22-16
This is like Race to 14 with Ruslan leading 6-0
:D

Is that a bar box or 7' table?

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 03:29 PM
23-16 Ruslan.

spartan
11-06-2015, 03:30 PM
Rusland breaks, gets ball down but has long bank on 1
He makes beautiful long bank and runs out
This guy can play
Ruslan 23-16
:grin:

pt109
11-06-2015, 03:30 PM
I haven't watched the entire match, but it looks like Shane has changed his break up. Maybe the "Russian rules" 10-ball break has played a part?

The break wasn't hurting Shane so much as missing...I think the table plays a little funny.
My instincts says the cloth was not stretched enough, and the middle slate is a hair low.
....assuming it's a three-piece...if one piece slate, it's a bit warped.

But I'm favoring cloth not tight....the potting angles become different at slow speeds...
....and the spin takes different.

Shane missed three shots that he might not miss again for ten years.


Can't watch it right now...my IPad can't handle it...:o

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 03:31 PM
there is no rattle in Ruslan. Great shot maker.
Not always ideal position, but his eye makes up for it. wow.

JohnnyP
11-06-2015, 03:35 PM
The camera was just on Shane as the Rusky was racking. Shane was talking to himself.

ps611846
11-06-2015, 03:38 PM
The break wasn't hurting Shane so much as missing...I think the table plays a little funny.
My instincts says the cloth was not stretched enough, and the middle slate is a hair low.
....assuming it's a three-piece...if one piece slate, it's a bit warped.

But I'm favoring cloth not tight....the potting angles become different at slow speeds...
....and the spin takes different.

Shane missed three shots that he might not miss again for ten years.


Can't watch it right now...my IPad can't handle it...:o

I usually like your posts, but not that one.

Shane is not playing well. Nothing else to say.

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 03:38 PM
On a side note - will the Russian Table official be hired by Matchroom anytime soon? :grin:

On a side side note - Whats with Ruslan using Kamui? Why not Russian Magic chalk?:grin-square:

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 03:45 PM
The camera was just on Shane as the Rusky was racking. Shane was talking to himself.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/plan9fromsyracuse/shane-loss%20800x419.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/plan9fromsyracuse/media/shane-loss%20800x419.jpg.html)

uh oh :sorry:

pt109
11-06-2015, 03:47 PM
I usually like your posts, but not that one.

Shane is not playing well. Nothing else to say.

Sometimes I have found myself not playing well, and I had to figure it out before it was
too late.....loose cloth was often the culprit.
If I'm stroking bad, I'm going to know it, as will Shane.

I lost a snooker match 1-6 once...I played good enough to get to the finals and then
couldn't run 20 points.....hadn't played on that table before... Turned out the cloth was on
backwards and I didn't notice the nap running the wrong way.

Not understanding what you're playing on gets road players broke

ps611846
11-06-2015, 03:54 PM
Sometimes I have found myself not playing well, and I had to figure it out before it was
too late.....loose cloth was often the culprit.
If I'm stroking bad, I'm going to know it, as will Shane.

I lost a snooker match 1-6 once...I played good enough to get to the finals and then
couldn't run 20 points.....hadn't played on that table before... Turned out the cloth was on
backwards and I didn't notice the nap running the wrong way.

Not understanding what you're playing on gets road players broke

Ok, I get it now. So, it was Ko's luck at the World Championsip. And now it's the cloth. And in the US Open it was the lights, right ???

spartan
11-06-2015, 03:55 PM
Shane didn't grab another opportunity. Hooks himself and Ruslan runs out for 8 rack lead 26-18
It is almost over
It is race to 12 with Ruslan leading 8-0

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 03:56 PM
wow Ruslan is breaking them good - 4 balls off the break.
Runs out
up 27-18 now

pt109
11-06-2015, 04:06 PM
Ok, I get it now. So, it was Ko's luck at the World Championsip. And now it's the cloth. And in the US Open it was the lights, right ???

It's just a feeling, but I didn't like the way the balls were running early in the match.

I think Ruslan taking a win here is good for the game....
...it's just my old instincts coming out...the table is playing mushy.

Back in the 90s, I was running out for the match, I just had to draw back three feet for
the nine....I stopped dead and banked the nine for the win. ...told my buddy I couldn't
understand what happened on that shot....he said I dogged it....Alex was in the conversation...
....he thought about it, went to where the eight had been, pinched the cloth and pulled it
six inches up in the air.....he's pretty sharp.

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 04:07 PM
Shane went and started breaking from Ruslan's spot finally.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 04:13 PM
Chernobyl is on the hill, 29-20.

NYC cue dude
11-06-2015, 04:23 PM
Can NOT believe the beating sling blade has put on Shane here. Wow

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 04:25 PM
Chernobyl is on the hill, 29-20.

Ruslan says...........

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g255/plan9fromsyracuse/ivan.jpg (http://s58.photobucket.com/user/plan9fromsyracuse/media/ivan.jpg.html)

actionplayer
11-06-2015, 04:26 PM
401500

sickening the excuses

absolute embarrassing

mjantti
11-06-2015, 04:28 PM
Table? Racking? Break box? You guys are amazing with your excuses :p

Come on Ruslan! He's on a mission and thirsty for some young legend blood here.

PoolBum
11-06-2015, 04:35 PM
Hustlin' Ruslan wins 30-22.

BeiberLvr
11-06-2015, 04:35 PM
Holy jeez that shot on the 3 ball might be one of the best shots of the year.

Cardigan Kid
11-06-2015, 04:36 PM
Holy jeez that shot on the 3 ball might be one of the best shots of the year.

That was unreal.
Congrats to Ruslan - that was a stellar performance.

one stroke
11-06-2015, 04:38 PM
Can NOT believe the beating sling blade has put on Shane here. Wow

When Shanes break is neutralized he's pretty average


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NYC cue dude
11-06-2015, 04:41 PM
When Shanes break is neutralized he's pretty average


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Yeah, gonna have to disagree with that. There's nothing average about Shane, except his cue.

pt109
11-06-2015, 04:48 PM
Hustlin' Ruslan wins 30-22.

Hustlin' Ruslan.....I like that name.

one stroke
11-06-2015, 04:51 PM
Yeah, gonna have to disagree with that. There's nothing average about Shane, except his cue.

Among the elite world players aside from his break he's average



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BeiberLvr
11-06-2015, 04:53 PM
Hustlin' Ruslan.....I like that name.

I think it's pronounced Rooslan.

spartan
11-06-2015, 04:55 PM
Putin makes 3 early morning calls

First call to Obama
Putin: Listen , O, your boy Shane got beat badly so I am staying in Syria.
O: Shane who?

Second call to Marcus Chamat:
Putin: Listen, Mat, you want to be invited to my big year end pool babes party? Well take out that lucky boy , Albin and put my boy Ruslan in

Third call to Barry B
Putin: Hi, Barry. Putin here
Barry: You Put in? Yes I will put you in this year's US Open. Just wire $10,000 into my account. No problem, I can put in anytime even affer brackets closed.
:D

Teacherman
11-06-2015, 05:06 PM
Fundamentals win again.

MD1108
11-06-2015, 05:13 PM
Congrats to Ruslan Chinahov on his challenge match victory. The guy plays great and always stays so smooth. I had the privilege of watching him shoot straight pool at The Derby this year and it was awesome. He was also one of my dark horse picks at U S Open last week.
Also a congrats to SVB for taking on a game that was completely designed to neutralize one of his biggest weapons. And it did just that. You have to give SVB credit for participating in a game that the house has structured specifically against you.
I understand the business model in place here and totally get the reasoning for this decision by the Russian governing body. It's an exhibition match which offers a chance to highlight professional pool in their homeland and also shine on their rising star Chinahov. The last thing they would want or could afford is for this exhibition match to turn into a very one sided contest. And again, I congratulate Chinahov on this victory. He was the better player today and I look forward to watching him and his contributions to pool for many years to come.
SVB is a world class player. There are times when he does not always play world class speed. The professionalism and determination he brings day and day out make him something special. Not only do I feel lucky to have him represent pool here in America, I feel lucky to have him represent the game as a whole around the globe. I will continue to wish SVB all the best and I am certain there are more victories and titles in his future.

Nostroke
11-06-2015, 05:15 PM
If they were only going to 7-Im pretty sure SVB got there first.:smile:

Cuebuddy
11-06-2015, 05:15 PM
Fundamentals win again.

I agree, Ruslan was very focused and deserved the win. Having the home field advantage is also a plus. I believe these two will meet a few more times on the table and have some great matches. Congrats goes out to Ruslan.:thumbup2:

Curt
11-06-2015, 05:21 PM
Rematch at The Derby?????

Nostroke
11-06-2015, 05:24 PM
Rematch at The Derby?????

I dont believe he will play him back with those same break rules for a looooooooooong time.

Teacherman
11-06-2015, 05:29 PM
Ah yes....one guy breaks like a champion, the other guy doesn't.....so they took the break away from the loser.

Makes sense......at AZB.

Nowhere else.

Curt
11-06-2015, 05:30 PM
I have watched Shane play many, many times on video, on streams and in person. I believe when Shane is playing well he can play with anyone after the break.

one stroke
11-06-2015, 05:40 PM
I have watched Shane play many, many times on video, on streams and in person. I believe when Shane is playing well he can play with anyone after the break.
Iv heard many times Shane's the best breaker in the world never heard him called the best shot maker


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Cornerman
11-06-2015, 05:49 PM
I think it's pronounced Rooslan.

Hoostlin Ruslan then.

Freddie

kagewest
11-06-2015, 05:53 PM
Lots of shane haters here which is fitting since he is probably the best ambasitor of the sport we have. Right on par with the AZ geniuses!

one stroke
11-06-2015, 06:35 PM
Lots of shane haters here which is fitting since he is probably the best ambasitor of the sport we have. Right on par with the AZ geniuses!

Way more huggers than haters ,,
What has he done that makes him the great ambassador ,,


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BeiberLvr
11-06-2015, 06:41 PM
Lots of shane haters here which is fitting since he is probably the best ambasitor of the sport we have. Right on par with the AZ geniuses!

Too bad Frost wasn't in Shane's place.

He woulda showed that dirty Russian

HelloBaby-
11-06-2015, 07:51 PM
Congrats to Ruslan Chinahov on his challenge match victory. The guy plays great and always stays so smooth. I had the privilege of watching him shoot straight pool at The Derby this year and it was awesome. He was also one of my dark horse picks at U S Open last week.
Also a congrats to SVB for taking on a game that was completely designed to neutralize one of his biggest weapons. And it did just that. You have to give SVB credit for participating in a game that the house has structured specifically against you.
I understand the business model in place here and totally get the reasoning for this decision by the Russian governing body. It's an exhibition match which offers a chance to highlight professional pool in their homeland and also shine on their rising star Chinahov. The last thing they would want or could afford is for this exhibition match to turn into a very one sided contest. And again, I congratulate Chinahov on this victory. He was the better player today and I look forward to watching him and his contributions to pool for many years to come.
SVB is a world class player. There are times when he does not always play world class speed. The professionalism and determination he brings day and day out make him something special. Not only do I feel lucky to have him represent pool here in America, I feel lucky to have him represent the game as a whole around the globe. I will continue to wish SVB all the best and I am certain there are more victories and titles in his future.

It's a free shot for about 5k, I don't see Shane needed to make a decision.

one stroke
11-06-2015, 07:59 PM
Congrats to Ruslan Chinahov on his challenge match victory. The guy plays great and always stays so smooth. I had the privilege of watching him shoot straight pool at The Derby this year and it was awesome. He was also one of my dark horse picks at U S Open last week.
Also a congrats to SVB for taking on a game that was completely designed to neutralize one of his biggest weapons. And it did just that. You have to give SVB credit for participating in a game that the house has structured specifically against you.
I understand the business model in place here and totally get the reasoning for this decision by the Russian governing body. It's an exhibition match which offers a chance to highlight professional pool in their homeland and also shine on their rising star Chinahov. The last thing they would want or could afford is for this exhibition match to turn into a very one sided contest. And again, I congratulate Chinahov on this victory. He was the better player today and I look forward to watching him and his contributions to pool for many years to come.
SVB is a world class player. There are times when he does not always play world class speed. The professionalism and determination he brings day and day out make him something special. Not only do I feel lucky to have him represent pool here in America, I feel lucky to have him represent the game as a whole around the globe. I will continue to wish SVB all the best and I am certain there are more victories and titles in his future.

Shane's matches on the TAR often were one sided the U.S. Open rules were made to take away big break advantages

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arps
11-06-2015, 08:16 PM
Too bad Frost wasn't in Shane's place.

He woulda showed that dirty Russian

ummm... no.

kagewest
11-06-2015, 08:16 PM
Way more huggers than haters ,,
What has he done that makes him the great ambassador ,,


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That a boy just post to argue. Grow up.

Poolmanis
11-06-2015, 08:30 PM
Phew! Hurry night at work.
So Ruslan did play great I suppose. Had to because he did beat SVB.

I believe Shane wont be bothered too long for this match.
He probably start put some practice time to learn outside of box break too. He should, because game gonna evolve to that direction.

I think this match taught a lot to Shane also for mental side of competing.

He should be ready for that hes biggest weapon(break) could be off due various reasons(rules, tables, etc ..) So then you have to play actual game even better.
I believe this match can be for some kind alarm clock. To do even more work to stay on top!

P.S Im just speculating because i could not see match live:frown:. Gotta see match later.

P.P.S thanks all for updates! :grin-square: I was too hurry to answer but I watched them

Gunn_Slinger
11-06-2015, 09:59 PM
GAFF table ( billiard cloth speed, dead rails ), PHONY break rule ( Never been a break rule like that in the history of pool ).
Bring the russian here and BET some $$$. Race to 100. I'm in for 10k
USA dont need no phony russian bs to win.GET-IT-ON!!!.

SilverCue
11-06-2015, 10:56 PM
Table? Racking? Break box? You guys are amazing with your excuses :p

Come on Ruslan! He's on a mission and thirsty for some young legend blood here.

Where does Finland get it's power from? :)

Keith Jawahir
11-06-2015, 11:10 PM
401552

401553

Yep yep.

Keith Jawahir
11-06-2015, 11:14 PM
Shane just hasn't been the same since he said in the TAR podcast that there are other things in life than pool. Can't say I blame him. He's still our #1 player for now, but I agree with the statement above that he's not head and shoulders above the rest of the field anymore.

one stroke
11-06-2015, 11:24 PM
That a boy just post to argue. Grow up.

You're a funny guy , I guess you have been stalking the forum for yrs before joined to come up with these conclusions
Shane's a great player but that's as far as it goes thiers many more people who do more for the game than he does

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one stroke
11-06-2015, 11:26 PM
Shane just hasn't been the same since he said in the TAR podcast that there are other things in life than pool. Can't say I blame him. He's still our #1 player for now, but I agree with the statement above that he's not head and shoulders above the rest of the field anymore.

He never was outside USA



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one stroke
11-06-2015, 11:41 PM
GAFF table ( billiard cloth speed, dead rails ), PHONY break rule ( Never been a break rule like that in the history of pool ).
Bring the russian here and BET some $$$. Race to 100. I'm in for 10k
USA dont need no phony russian bs to win.GET-IT-ON!!!.

GAFG they have changed break rules for yrs in the box 9 on the spot magic rack and so on then change the tables from GC3 to Daimond different rails and pocket shelves
Earl set a table up and beat Shane like a step child
Why is it so f-:?ing hard to believe that someone can out play Shane he doesn't walk on water and he's got a little dog in him that's been proven on more than one occasion
Get over it

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ps611846
11-07-2015, 12:07 AM
Iv heard many times Shane's the best breaker in the world never heard him called the best shot maker


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Because he is not. But it doesn't matter. For his fans here in this forum he is still the best player in the world and no one can beat him in a race to 100, or 200, or 1000....but every match should be played on the right table, with the right cloth, the right lights, And now, the right color of the cloth !!!!! Only tournament blue !!!!!!!!!!!!! Pool should not be played on green cloth !!!!!!!!!

These guys are really funny.

Samir_Sinanovic
11-07-2015, 12:12 AM
Here is the link of the match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yklrgzRZGG4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my SM-N7505 using Tapatalk

one stroke
11-07-2015, 12:12 AM
Because he is not. But it doesn't matter. For his fans here in this forum he is still the best player in the world and no one can beat him in a race to 100, or 200, or 1000....but every match should be played on the right table, with the right cloth, the right lights, And now, the right color of the cloth !!!!! Only tournament blue !!!!!!!!!!!!! Pool should not be played on green cloth !!!!!!!!!

These guys are really funny.

Never been truer words spoken

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AtLarge
11-07-2015, 12:33 AM
Here is the link of the match

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yklrgzRZGG4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my SM-N7505 using Tapatalk

That's the first 34 games (and the start of the 35th). I imagine a Part Two with the final hour and a half will be coming soon.

Gunn_Slinger
11-07-2015, 12:40 AM
GAFG they have changed break rules for yrs in the box 9 on the spot magic rack and so on then change the tables from GC3 to Daimond different rails and pocket shelves
Earl set a table up and beat Shane like a step child
Why is it so f-:?ing hard to believe that someone can out play Shane he doesn't walk on water and he's got a little dog in him that's been proven on more than one occasion
Get over it

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The only thing guys like you show is that you know nothing about playing real pool. Watch the match. He does not outplay Shane. He plays a lot of bad safe's and dogs a lot of balls.Name a match that has been played on billiard speed cloth with dead rails AND break outside the box. There has never been one, plus, they dont tell Shane about the break rules till late wednesday nite. Its BS. I dought you gamble. Wouldn't know a gaff tbl from a bumper pool tbl. Bring the russian here. Play on a real table with real rules and you and I can bet 10k or more. GET UP!!
ps
Look at your own words 'Earl SET UP a table ' . ONly way Earl hade a chance. Had Shane had as much time on the table as Earl, he would have prop won. Give Shane as much time on that chit tbl as the russian and Shane robs him!

ps611846
11-07-2015, 12:57 AM
The only thing guys like you show is that you know nothing about playing real pool. Watch the match. He does not outplay Shane. He plays a lot of bad safe's and dogs a lot of balls.Name a match that has been played on billiard speed cloth with dead rails AND break outside the box. There has never been one, plus, they dont tell Shane about the break rules till late wednesday nite. Its BS. I dought you gamble. Wouldn't know a gaff tbl from a bumper pool tbl. Bring the russian here. Play on a real table with real rules and you and I can bet 10k or more. GET UP!!

I agree with what you said about the break rule. It wasn't good at all. But these things should not affect a "Great" player's game so much. You said Chinakhov dogged lot of balls and played bad safety shots. I guess you watched the match. So, what about Shane's misses and really bad position play ? He played three easy back cuts at 2 diamonds and missed them. The one on the side was also an "amateur" scratch and a really bad hit. Watch the 7 he missed at 45:00. And the 9 at 1:19:40 !!!!!!

This is not a "great" player's performance. And has nothing to do with break rules or cloth, etc.... He has been playing like that for about one year.

I think you know. But you don't want to believe what is happening.

PoloBob
11-07-2015, 12:58 AM
The only thing guys like you show is that you know nothing about playing real pool. Watch the match. He does not outplay Shane. He plays a lot of bad safe's and dogs a lot of balls.Name a match that has been played on billiard speed cloth with dead rails AND break outside the box. There has never been one, plus, they dont tell Shane about the break rules till late wednesday nite. Its BS. I dought you gamble. Wouldn't know a gaff tbl from a bumper pool tbl. Bring the russian here. Play on a real table with real rules and you and I can bet 10k or more. GET UP!!
ps
Look at your own words 'Earl SET UP a table ' . ONly way Earl hade a chance. Had Shane had as much time on the table as Earl, he would have prop won. Give Shane as much time on that chit tbl as the russian and Shane robs him!


Just... stop...

Two tough opponents and the match had a winner. Next match

kagewest
11-07-2015, 01:44 AM
Just... stop...

Two tough opponents and the match had a winner. Next match

I agree with both of you. They played on a short table and I'll admit it played funny. 9' diamond race to 30 in thr USA I'd bet a large sum of money on shane. But they didn't and shane lost. I gurantee shane got paid an appearance fee for traveling.

Gunn_Slinger
11-07-2015, 01:50 AM
I agree with what you said about the break rule. It wasn't good at all. But these things should not affect a "Great" player's game so much. You said Chinakhov dogged lot of balls and played bad safety shots. I guess you watched the match. So, what about Shane's misses and really bad position play ? He played three easy back cuts at 2 diamonds and missed them. The one on the side was also an "amateur" scratch and a really bad hit. Watch the 7 he missed at 45.00.

This is not a "great" player's performance. And has nothing to do with break rules or cloth, etc.... He has been playing like that for about one year.

I think you know. But you don't want to believe what is happening.
Shane didn't play great. Thats true. Watch the balls he missed. Most of them were due to skid ( new super fast cloth will do that ) If Shane had the same time on that piece of junk table as the russian, and had known about the break rule , he would have had a good chance to win. After all the misses and bad safes, it was 15-15. Then the break kicked in. adv russian. It was an ambush from jump street. I've played on all kinds of tables for 40 years+. If you play a good player on his home court, he is the favorate. I've lost to players in their home room on tables they play on every day. If I got them to come to my room or a neutral room, I usually won....most would not leave their home court....another definition of a 'nit'.
I hope Shane gets a chance to play this guy again.
ps
SVB 2015
7 tournament wins
2 seconds
6 3rds
Playing bad?
Appleton 2015
2 wins
2 seconds
1 3rd
won more money....app 20k
Alex 2015
7 wins
3 seconds
1 3rd
won 10k more than Shane
Theses are the top 3 in the world!!
AND, Shane is in a small slump.
Boy, you guys expect the world. I guess you are all run-out players...
Who have you beat?
ONe guy said 'get over it'
I say ..LIGHTEN UP!!!

PoloBob
11-07-2015, 02:12 AM
[QUOTE=Gunn_Slinger;5352229]....Shane didn't play great. Thats true. Watch the balls he missed. Most of them were due to skid ( new super fast cloth will do that ) If Shane had the same time on that piece of junk table as the russian,.....


I don't think you meant to say "skid".

Rather than fixating on things, such as how the newer cloth slid in that particular match, why not appreciate the fact that the exhibition even occurred and that some of us were actually fortunate enough to witness it.

Relax man, life is tough enough as it is. :smile:

Ron Swanson
11-07-2015, 02:15 AM
Where's corvette? I fear for his safety.

Samir_Sinanovic
11-07-2015, 04:18 AM
That's the first 34 games (and the start of the 35th). I imagine a Part Two with the final hour and a half will be coming soon.
Yes it is posted on Youtubr already

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peter_gunn
11-07-2015, 05:06 AM
European championship with similar ruleset is every year on that table brand. Only break box is 1/3 of the kitchen area, not 2/4

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realkingcobra
11-07-2015, 05:27 AM
GAFG they have changed break rules for yrs in the box 9 on the spot magic rack and so on then change the tables from GC3 to Daimond different rails and pocket shelves
Earl set a table up and beat Shane like a step child
Why is it so f-:?ing hard to believe that someone can out play Shane he doesn't walk on water and he's got a little dog in him that's been proven on more than one occasion
Get over it

1

You always like throwing that match between Earl and Shane on that circus 10' like it's suppose to be some real beating or something, yet you always seem to forget the 2 beatings Shane gave to Earl on a 9'. If Earl beating Shane by a score of 100/20 was like beating a step child....what do you ha e to say about Shane beating Earl 100/60 on a 9ft the first time they played....a horse f%&*ing?

mjantti
11-07-2015, 05:42 AM
Where does Finland get it's power from? :)

Electrical power from Russia, mental power from the war against Russia at WWII :D

Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 05:51 AM
Can anyone name a sport where a player or teams main weapon (tennis/big serve, pitcher/dominating fast ball, etc) is taken away from them at the start of a game or match?

Not a Shane hugger as some have suggested about those who support Shane.

Just a question?

Johnnyt
11-07-2015, 06:10 AM
Everybody can be hustled, but this was a trap. Not telling or asking about the break until he was half way around the world was total BS. They were 95% sure he'd play the match breaking from the side rail once he got there. Breaking from there, even if you make balls on the break, most of the time no shot on the lowest ball and there are always balls tied up on one side of the table. Everybody knows that.

I bet the Russian won't play Shane with him breaking from the middle for big money. Johnnyt

ps611846
11-07-2015, 06:21 AM
Shane didn't play great. Thats true. Watch the balls he missed. Most of them were due to skid ( new super fast cloth will do that ) If Shane had the same time on that piece of junk table as the russian, and had known about the break rule , he would have had a good chance to win. After all the misses and bad safes, it was 15-15. Then the break kicked in. adv russian. It was an ambush from jump street. I've played on all kinds of tables for 40 years+. If you play a good player on his home court, he is the favorate. I've lost to players in their home room on tables they play on every day. If I got them to come to my room or a neutral room, I usually won....most would not leave their home court....another definition of a 'nit'.
I hope Shane gets a chance to play this guy again.
ps
SVB 2015
7 tournament wins
2 seconds
6 3rds
Playing bad?
Appleton 2015
2 wins
2 seconds
1 3rd
won more money....app 20k
Alex 2015
7 wins
3 seconds
1 3rd
won 10k more than Shane
Theses are the top 3 in the world!!
AND, Shane is in a small slump.
Boy, you guys expect the world. I guess you are all run-out players...
Who have you beat?
ONe guy said 'get over it'
I say ..LIGHTEN UP!!!

Yeah, ok......

You can say whatever you want and find any funny excuse you want. You can't change anything.
You said that Shane would 'rob' anyone in a long race if the conditions were different. I have never heard of a great player complaining about the table and saying that he lost because of the table. Not even Shane !!!!!!!
But You and lots of others in this forum do the same thing everytime your "hero" loses. It's a joke.
You can be sure about one thing. Right now, Shane is not able to "rob" any top player in a long race. Win, maybe. But no "rob".

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 06:36 AM
Can anyone name a sport where a player or teams main weapon (tennis/big serve, pitcher/dominating fast ball, etc) is taken away from them at the start of a game or match?

Not a Shane hugger as some have suggested about those who support Shane.

Just a question?
Golf. You can't use a driver on every hole. And some designers have made it that you can barely use a driver.

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BeiberLvr
11-07-2015, 07:08 AM
Everybody can be hustled, but this was a trap. Not telling or asking about the break until he was half way around the world was total BS. They were 95% sure he'd play the match breaking from the side rail once he got there. Breaking from there, even if you make balls on the break, most of the time no shot on the lowest ball and there are always balls tied up on one side of the table. Everybody knows that.

I bet the Russian won't play Shane with him breaking from the middle for big money. Johnnyt

According to the stats, Ruslan had no problems breaking and running.

If the balls are tied up, then the rack requires a little more strategy, i.e skill to win.

snucar
11-07-2015, 08:31 AM
Gotta love the nuthuggers.:D The better player on that day won, quite comfortably too.

spartan
11-07-2015, 08:46 AM
Gotta love the nuthuggers.:D The better player on that day won, quite comfortably too.

What is shocking is some nut had audacity to imply that Shane "dumped" match cos he was paid exhibition fee so he had to lose to make Ruslan look good and boost pool in Russia. Shane would probably be more upset with insinuation of "dumping" than at losing the match
:D

snucar
11-07-2015, 09:05 AM
What is shocking is some nut had audacity to imply that Shane "dumped" match cos he was paid exhibition fee so he had to lose to make Ruslan look good and boost pool in Russia. Shane would probably be more upset with insinuation of "dumping" than at losing the match
:D

Not shocking at all. Their imagination and excuses making ability is top quality. I always love reading their predictions before the match and their crying after the match. Good comedians!:thumbup:

Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 09:08 AM
Golf. You can't use a driver on every hole. And some designers have made it that you can barely use a driver.

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I'm not a golfer. But I bet if you want to use a driver on every hole you have that option. May not make sense, but the option is there.

Out of the 18 holes played in a round of golf how many hole do you think the pro's don't use a driver. Maybe 3 or 4.

In Shane' case he was never allowed to use his 'driver'.

Maybe a fairer way to have played the match would have been to break one game from inside the box and one from outside the box until a winner was decided.

Don

sjm
11-07-2015, 09:20 AM
This is not an upset. The format brings Shane's after the break skills to the forefront, and grinding out racks that need to be fought for is not what Shane does best. Nonetheless, Ruslan is playing great and might have won if any break had been permitted.

Well played, Ruslan.

ps611846
11-07-2015, 09:23 AM
Not shocking at all. Their imagination and excuses making ability is top quality. I always love reading their predictions before the match and their crying after the match. Good comedians!:thumbup:

Exactly !!!! These guys are amazing !!!!!!! :D

Before the match: 30-18 Shane, no chance for the Russian, etc.....

After the match: the table - the cloth - the skids - the break rules.....
And the best one: the Russian not leaving a shot to Shane after missing !!!!!! Same when Ko won the finals !!!!!!

I have an idea: From now on Shane should get BIH after his oponent misses a shot. And our boy will have a chance to run out.

Go Shane fans !!!!!!!!!!! Lol !!!!!!!

snucar
11-07-2015, 09:31 AM
And Ruslan beats Shane AGAIN, 8-5!!! lol:p

Let me get the popcorn!

Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 09:40 AM
This is not an upset. The format brings Shane's after the break skills to the forefront, and grinding out racks that need to be fought for is not what Shane does best. Nonetheless, Ruslan is playing great and might have won if any break had been permitted.

Well played, Ruslan.

It does appear that there are a few Shane bashers on here. I support great pool. Shane lost under the conditions that were agreed on or forced on the players.

But when you take away the strength of one player, have you really proven who is the better player.

"Mano a Mano" is the best way to determine who is best. Not saying that Shane would have won. But it was quite obvious that Ruslan was afraid of Shane's break.

Don

ps611846
11-07-2015, 09:41 AM
And Ruslan beats Shane AGAIN!!! lol:p

Let me get the popcorn!

Looooooolllllll !!!!!!!!!!!!

Those fkin Dynamic III tables....... And the green cloth which is not well stretched out...... And the skids..... And the break rules......

Guess Ruslan was lucky again. He was dogging a lot of shots and played bad safeties. But he was not leaving a shot to our boy.......

Our boy would "rob" the Russian on a Diamond table with a "good" cloth.......

Man, this is getting better and better !!!!!!!!!

Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 09:44 AM
Exactly !!!! These guys are amazing !!!!!!! :D

Before the match: 30-18 Shane, no chance for the Russian, etc.....

After the match: the table - the cloth - the skids - the break rules.....
And the best one: the Russian not leaving a shot to Shane after missing !!!!!! Same when Ko won the finals !!!!!!

I have an idea: From now one Shane should get BIH after his oponent misses a shot. And our boy will have a chance to run out.

Go Shane fans !!!!!!!!!!! Lol !!!!!!!

May I suggest you fill up your piggy bank and challenge Shane to a match. Bring plenty of 'Depend' diapers. I am sure you will need them when he is done with you. :cool:

Don

ps611846
11-07-2015, 09:48 AM
May I suggest you fill up your piggy bank and challenge Shane to a match. Bring plenty of 'Depend' diapers. I am sure you will need them when he is done with you. :cool:

Don

Lmao !!!!!!! Shane play me and beat me ???? Big deal man !!!!!!! When did I say that I am "pro" level ?????

What a "sore loser" you are !!!!!!! That's really entertaining !!!!!!!!!

snucar
11-07-2015, 09:50 AM
May I suggest you fill up your piggy bank and challenge Shane to a match. Bring plenty of 'Depend' diapers. I am sure you will need them when he is done with you. :cool:

Don

The most popular thing to say when a nuthugger runs out of excuses.lol

Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 09:52 AM
Lmao !!!!!!! Shane play me and beat me ???? Big deal man !!!!!!! When did I say that I am "pro" level ?????

What a "sore loser" you are !!!!!!! That's really entertaining !!!!!!!!!

Read my earlier posts. If you cant read, maybe someone can help you.

Don

spartan
11-07-2015, 09:54 AM
Lmao !!!!!!! Shane play me and beat me ???? Big deal man !!!!!!! When did I say that I am "pro" level ?????

What a "sore loser" you are !!!!!!! That's really entertaining !!!!!!!!!

Be careful, next time
-you criticise Daniel Day Lewis, you have to be actor and win Oscar
-you criticise MacDonald's food, you have to open burger chain and beat MacDonald
-you criticise Madonna, you have to start a music career and sell more albums
-you criticise Obama, you have to run for President and win

:thumbup::D

ps611846
11-07-2015, 09:56 AM
Be careful, next time
-you criticise Daniel Day Lewis, you have to be actor and win Oscar
-you criticise MacDonald's food, you have to open burger chain and beat MacDonald
-you criticise Madonna, you have to start a music career and sell more albums
-you criticise Obama, you have to run for President and win

:thumbup::D

Yes !!!! I know now !!!!!! ;)

alstl
11-07-2015, 10:05 AM
There are some videos of Chinahov playing 14.1

If you think his win was a fluke take a look at his 14.1 game and you will realize he is the real deal.

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 10:09 AM
I'm not a golfer. But I bet if you want to use a driver on every hole you have that option. May not make sense, but the option is there.

Out of the 18 holes played in a round of golf how many hole do you think the pro's don't use a driver. Maybe 3 or 4.

In Shane' case he was never allowed to use his 'driver'.

Maybe a fairer way to have played the match would have been to break one game from inside the box and one from outside the box until a winner was decided.

Don

Pretty funny stuff, Don. Maybe you should speak about things you know. In a typical round of golf, on an open course, the pro will use his driver on all holes except par 3s. That's roughly 13-14 holes. But, certain courses on the tour have been cut thin at the bomber's ranges, so the pro is forced to use a 3 wood, or hybrid, if he wants a decent shot into the green. Tiger had to use a 3 wood for entire rounds at specific courses. He didn't whine about it. Sure, he COULD tee off with a driver EVERY hole if he wanted to. I could drive to work on Monday with my arms crossed. Doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.

You never hear a pro golfer ***** about the course. He just changes his strategy, and approaches each hole the same way - "what's the best shot?". I don't think Shane ever thought "what.....I have to break from outside the box.....what the hell am I going to do??". The score was 15-15 at the break. Even. I think a bigger deal is being made about the table, the break, etc than it really contributed. The US Open had no break box rules, and was played on Diamond tables. No gafs. He lost there, too.

Sometimes, great players lose to other great players. What all of these excuses do is diminish the winner's victory. Ruslan won, Shane lost. Maybe next time, Shane will win. They're both incredibly talented. All yesterday was is one battle in a lifetime of wars between these guys. People beating Shane is good for the game. When Tiger was winning everything on the PGA, it started to get boring. The past year, there were 3 guys duking it out for the Fedex cup. Rivalries are good for pool. If you get a few "professional" rivalries with good play, and the players are gentlemen, ratings will go up. Trust me....yesterday was a good day for the game of pool. On all fronts.

Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 10:18 AM
Pretty funny stuff, Don. Maybe you should speak about things you know. In a typical round of golf, on an open course, the pro will use his driver on all holes except par 3s. That's roughly 13-14 holes. But, certain courses on the tour have been cut thin at the bomber's ranges, so the pro is forced to use a 3 wood, or hybrid, if he wants a decent shot into the green. Tiger had to use a 3 wood for entire rounds at specific courses. He didn't whine about it. Sure, he COULD tee off with a driver EVERY hole if he wanted to. I could drive to work on Monday with my arms crossed. Doesn't mean it's the best thing to do.

You never hear a pro golfer ***** about the course. He just changes his strategy, and approaches each hole the same way - "what's the best shot?". I don't think Shane ever thought "what.....I have to break from outside the box.....what the hell am I going to do??". The score was 15-15 at the break. Even. I think a bigger deal is being made about the table, the break, etc than it really contributed. The US Open had no break box rules, and was played on Diamond tables. No gafs. He lost there, too.

Sometimes, great players lose to other great players. What all of these excuses do is diminish the winner's victory. Ruslan won, Shane lost. Maybe next time, Shane will win. They're both incredibly talented. All yesterday was is one battle in a lifetime of wars between these guys. People beating Shane is good for the game. When Tiger was winning everything on the PGA, it started to get boring. The past year, there were 3 guys duking it out for the Fedex cup. Rivalries are good for pool. If you get a few "professional" rivalries with good play, and the players are gentlemen, ratings will go up. Trust me....yesterday was a good day for the game of pool. On all fronts.

But you have choices in all of the above. Shane had no choice. Sounds to me as though you're just talking out of your %$#.

Don

(((Satori)))
11-07-2015, 10:21 AM
But you have choices in all of the above. Shane had no choice. Sounds to me as though you're just talking out of your %$#.

Don

I bet Shane wishes he had a choice on whether or not you would keep on posting in his defense.:smile:

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 10:21 AM
But you have choices in all of the above. Shane had no choice. Sounds to me as though you're just talking out of your %$#.

Don
You're right, Don. Ruslan played terrible. The only reason he won was because Shane couldn't break from the box. If he had been allowed to, he would have snapped off a 30 pack, and whitewashed the Russian.

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(((Satori)))
11-07-2015, 10:25 AM
You're right, Don. Ruslan played terrible. The only reason he won was because Shane couldn't break from the box. If he had been allowed to, he would have snapped off a 30 pack, and whitewashed the Russian.

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Don might as well say Shane's U.S. opens are not "real wins" since players weren't allowed to break from the side rail.

ps611846
11-07-2015, 10:27 AM
You're right, Don. Ruslan played terrible. The only reason he won was because Shane couldn't break from the box. If he had been allowed to, he would have snapped off a 30 pack, and whitewashed the Russian.

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Exactly. That guy from Russia is a joke. He can't play. He has no stroke - fundamentals, and he is a terrible shotmaker. He was only breaking well outside the box.

On the other hand, Shane has the best stroke - fundamentals, and he is the best shotmaker of all times. He just can't break well outside the box...... :thumbup:

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 10:28 AM
Don might as well say Shane's U.S. opens are not "real wins" since players weren't allowed to break from the side rail.
He actually reminds me of Earl Strickland. Earl walked out on a match with Corey because of the soft break.

If you want to talk about a guy that had a right to complain about "break rules" but didn't, talk about Corey. They all but banned the soft break. Was there something in the rules of pool that said you had to hit any shot a certain speed for it to be legal?

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Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 10:32 AM
It does appear that there are a few Shane bashers on here. I support great pool. Shane lost under the conditions that were agreed on or forced on the players.

But when you take away the strength of one player, have you really proven who is the better player.

"Mano a Mano" is the best way to determine who is best. Not saying that Shane would have won. But it was quite obvious that Ruslan was afraid of Shane's break.

Don
"Mano a Mano" doesn't actually mean "man to man". You may want to look that up....

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Poolshootindon
11-07-2015, 10:40 AM
"Mano a Mano" doesn't actually mean "man to man". You may want to look that up....

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I think you better look it up yourself.

Better yet i will do it for you.

Websters dictionary.

Definition of MANO A MANO

: in direct competition or conflict especially between two people.

Now you gals/guys can have this thread all to yourselves.

Don

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 10:46 AM
I think you better look it up yourself.

Better yet i will do it for you.

Websters dictionary.

Definition of MANO A MANO

: in direct competition or conflict especially between two people.

Now you gals/guys can have this thread all to yourselves.

Don

It actually means "hand to hand". Go ask someone that actually speaks Spanish :)

Mano = hand.

snucar
11-07-2015, 10:47 AM
I think you better look it up yourself.

Better yet i will do it for you.

Websters dictionary.

Definition of MANO A MANO

: in direct competition or conflict especially between two people.


And what exactly was yesterday's match if not "mano a mano"??? lol

Don, you're killing me here!!!:rotflmao:

SUPERSTAR
11-07-2015, 11:07 AM
He actually reminds me of Earl Strickland. Earl walked out on a match with Corey because of the soft break.

If you want to talk about a guy that had a right to complain about "break rules" but didn't, talk about Corey. They all but banned the soft break. Was there something in the rules of pool that said you had to hit any shot a certain speed for it to be legal?

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Romine's High Pockets, Milwaukee
Earl screwed over ESPN in the process.
The rest is history.

frigopie
11-07-2015, 11:46 AM
It actually means "hand to hand". Go ask someone that actually speaks Spanish :)

Mano = hand.

I am spaniard, Mano=Hand, but "Mano a mano" means a "man to man" competition

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 12:00 PM
I am spaniard, Mano=Hand, but "Mano a mano" means a "man to man" competition
Loose translation. If you look at the historical and literal meaning, it's "hand to hand". Two women can go "Mano a Mano". It isn't "man to man". If you wanted to have a conversation "man to man", it isn't "Mano a Mano". Right? ;)

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actionplayer
11-07-2015, 12:19 PM
Funny thing is Ruslan not near Mosconi team yet
You know Corey offered to play Shane push out after the break ten ball
Shane didn't like it

However break is big part of game and shouldn't be taken away
Difference in this match was after the restart ruslan ran few mini packages stretching lead and
Shane's little dog came out
Comes out a lot at the Mosconi

snucar
11-07-2015, 12:27 PM
Comes out a lot at the Mosconi

Comes out a lot everywhere, even in the US lately.

smashmouth
11-07-2015, 12:30 PM
May I suggest you fill up your piggy bank and challenge Shane to a match. Bring plenty of 'Depend' diapers. I am sure you will need them when he is done with you. :cool:

Don

weak weak argument
must suck to be you

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 12:35 PM
Funny thing is Ruslan not near Mosconi team yet
You know Corey offered to play Shane push out after the break ten ball
Shane didn't like it

However break is big part of game and shouldn't be taken away
Difference in this match was after the restart ruslan ran few mini packages stretching lead and
Shane's little dog came out
Comes out a lot at the Mosconi

Wow. Way too many people WAY too emotionally invested in the outcome of pool matches. Lots of people dogging on Shane. Lots of people saying Shane got screwed by outside factors - the break, the table.

Shane lost a pool match. That's all. No one goes undefeated. Ever. The champs get up, dust themselves off, and play again. Ruslan will learn from this win. Shane will learn from this loss. He will learn to break from outside the box, as there will probably be a lineup of people that want a piece of him, now.

If you're one of the people making excuses for Shane, stop. He isn't offering any excuses, and he doesn't need you to. For the people ganging up on him, it's hard to argue with his resume. A bunch of titles that weren't decided from just the break.

It's a game. Act accordingly.

ps611846
11-07-2015, 12:41 PM
weak weak argument
must suck to be you

He just lives in his own world and he can't control his mouth. He doesn't even understand how ridiculous this post was.

I have no problem with that. Just laughing at posts like that.

Sometimes the truth hurts......

(((Satori)))
11-07-2015, 12:46 PM
Wow. Way too many people WAY too emotionally invested in the outcome of pool matches. Lots of people dogging on Shane. Lots of people saying Shane got screwed by outside factors - the break, the table.

Shane lost a pool match. That's all. No one goes undefeated. Ever. The champs get up, dust themselves off, and play again. Ruslan will learn from this win. Shane will learn from this loss. He will learn to break from outside the box, as there will probably be a lineup of people that want a piece of him, now.

If you're one of the people making excuses for Shane, stop. He isn't offering any excuses, and he doesn't need you to. For the people ganging up on him, it's hard to argue with his resume. A bunch of titles that weren't decided from just the break.

It's a game. Act accordingly.

This is a sports forum. We are acting accordingly.:smile:

Black-Balled
11-07-2015, 12:55 PM
This is a sports forum. We are acting accordingly.:smile:

True that.
discussing a pool match on a pool forum, whodathunkit?

kurama418
11-07-2015, 01:17 PM
Wanna see this guy challenge KO in the same format.

ps611846
11-07-2015, 01:18 PM
Comes out a lot everywhere, even in the US lately.

At the Mosconi Cup the table is not original Diamond. It's fake and it's tilted. They build it especially for Shane so that he will not have an advantage over other players. And the cloth is cheap and not stretched out properly. All these according to his AZB Fans.

snucar
11-07-2015, 01:33 PM
Let's have the Mosconi Cup in SVB's basement this year. Like God and common logic commands.

ps611846
11-07-2015, 01:35 PM
Let's have the Mosconi Cup in SVB's basement this year. Like God and common logic commands.

Loooooooooolllll !!!!!! :grin:

Poolmanis
11-07-2015, 02:35 PM
Let's have the Mosconi Cup in SVB's basement this year. Like God and common logic commands.

I bet this snucar lost a bunch of money when Shane visited at Greece. Probably been backer of Nick or something...He got so much hate

snucar
11-07-2015, 03:40 PM
I bet this snucar lost a bunch of money when Shane visited at Greece. Probably been backer of Nick or something...He got so much hate

If your reading comprehension skills were just a little bit better, you would have noticed the FACT that I've never written anything against the player himself. But unfortunately, they're not.

Island Drive
11-07-2015, 04:21 PM
At the Mosconi Cup the table is not original Diamond. It's fake and it's tilted. They build it especially for Shane so that he will not have an advantage over other players. And the cloth is cheap and not stretched out properly. All these according to his AZB Fans.

What transpired with Shane and his match play was simple. He looked happy, probably got airfare/room/board paid some good show money I'm sure. He experienced something that he might never again, and he seemed to enjoy his time there. I look at this win/loss from the same perspective as home court, but even more so. Like when Earl trapped Shane on the ten footer, the conditions again trapped him. It's the pool ego/mindset ''No One can Beat ME''... of wanting to beat the top dog, because you've got an angle of some type giving you a definite advantage. Now the Russian can say he beat the best player in the world, soooooooooooooooooo go to the Philippines and get pumped up :grin:

Keith Jawahir
11-07-2015, 04:31 PM
I'm pretty sure the hate is directed towards Shane fans, not the man himself. Shane's nuthuggers and excuse-makers on this forum are pretty damn disgusting. Dare I say, their obsession reminds me of sports fans in general. I think it's pretty homoerotic to be so invested in another man's achievements. Just saying.

Shawn Armstrong
11-07-2015, 04:47 PM
I will type this real slowly so you can read it.

I don't care that Shane got beat. I don't care that the better player won on that day. But isn't it quite obvious that Ruslan must have felt that Shane's break was a factor.

Otherwise he would have let Shane break from anywhere behind the string he wanted.

You idiots crack me up.

Don
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one stroke
11-07-2015, 05:34 PM
I will type this real slowly so you can read it.

I don't care that Shane got beat. I don't care that the better player won on that day. But isn't it quite obvious that Ruslan must have felt that Shane's break was a factor.

Otherwise he would have let Shane break from anywhere behind the string he wanted.

You idiots crack me up.

Don

Don't forget manipulating and pattern racking also


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actionplayer
11-07-2015, 06:12 PM
Don't forget manipulating and pattern racking also


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No one cares if Shane loses
It's is groupies making excuses that our ridiculous that frustrates people
It's sad it makes people not appreciate his unbelievable game
He is works class no doubt
But he has a little dog in him
And also without the break he goes from world class to very good
Fundamentally he's behind the Europeans and Asians
But that comes from growing up on the bar box

gxman
11-07-2015, 08:53 PM
Guy killed Shane with the home field advantage. 40%BNR rate in 10b is ridiculous. He knows how to break on this table and Shane doesn't.

LIAKOS27
11-07-2015, 09:09 PM
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Sounds like a ban for a week to me!

ribdoner
11-07-2015, 09:17 PM
Guy killed Shane with the home field advantage. 40%BNR rate in 10b is ridiculous. He knows how to break on this table and Shane doesn't.

i'm a HUGE SVB fan, that said, turn about is fair play

well played Ruslan

arps
11-08-2015, 04:41 AM
saw the Kremlin Cup finals against Mika. Ruslan won.
my theory - he's a really good player. :grin-square:

Poolshootindon
11-08-2015, 06:35 AM
Sounds like a ban for a week to me!

I'm OK with that. Maybe when i return Mr. Wilson will weed out some of the nits that have found a temporary home on AZB.

Don

scsuxci
11-08-2015, 07:07 AM
Shane's a great player, and yes his big weapon is his break. Shane's downfall
was that he agreed with there conditions for breaking outside the box.
To me thats like a boxer telling Mike Tyson '' Ok I'll fight you but your
not aloud to throw your left hook''
Every champ has something '' special'' or outside the norm for the majority.
For Shane its his Break.
Look at Pete Sampras serve, even as he got older, he was still feared cause
of his serve. All the great ones had something.

Kid Dynomite
11-08-2015, 08:38 AM
Shane's a great player, and yes his big weapon is his break. Shane's downfall
was that he agreed with there conditions for breaking outside the box.
To me thats like a boxer telling Mike Tyson '' Ok I'll fight you but your
not aloud to throw your left hook''
Every champ has something '' special'' or outside the norm for the majority.
For Shane its his Break.
Look at Pete Sampras serve, even as he got older, he was still feared cause
of his serve. All the great ones had something.

In so many ways this post is sad!

With all we know about racking and breaking Tom foolery. To glorify his mastery of the racking arts clumps him together with dechaine and dueul ! But, at least dueul was a pioneer! Shane practiced and followed the teachings of Charlie Bond in his book!

I admire his heart and determination. But, that could be said of many top players. Neutralize the racking Tom foolery and the players must rely totally on "talent "

My hats off to the Russian! All those hours working on kicking jumping and safety play finally paid off!

Kd


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snucar
11-08-2015, 09:01 AM
But he has a little dog in him
And also without the break he goes from world class to very good
Fundamentally he's behind the Europeans and Asians


Short but extremely accurate description of Shane's game.

SUPERSTAR
11-08-2015, 09:07 AM
Ruslan's a better player.:D

one stroke
11-08-2015, 09:18 AM
Uh oh. You used the "i" word. Expect a notice from Wilson....

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Shane's a great player, and yes his big weapon is his break. Shane's downfall
was that he agreed with there conditions for breaking outside the box.
To me thats like a boxer telling Mike Tyson '' Ok I'll fight you but your
not aloud to throw your left hook''
Every champ has something '' special'' or outside the norm for the majority.
For Shane its his Break.
Look at Pete Sampras serve, even as he got older, he was still feared cause
of his serve. All the great ones had something.
Yes but get him off grass and tarmack and he could be beat
Get Shane out of his comfort zone and you can flip a coin on how he will perform ,
Let's also remember when they went to break box rules it took the break away from with big breaks from the rail ,

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Poolshootindon
11-08-2015, 10:14 AM
In so many ways this post is sad!

With all we know about racking and breaking Tom foolery. To glorify his mastery of the racking arts clumps him together with dechaine and dueul ! But, at least dueul was a pioneer! Shane practiced and followed the teachings of Charlie Bond in his book!

I admire his heart and determination. But, that could be said of many top players. Neutralize the racking Tom foolery and the players must rely totally on "talent "

My hats off to the Russian! All those hours working on kicking jumping and safety play finally paid off!

Kd


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Kd. I agree with you. Congrats to Chinakov. He spent countless hours working on his jumping and safety play.

Here is the difference. Chinakov was allowed to use what he practiced hours to master.

Shane was not allowed to use what he practiced hours and hours to master.
His outstanding break. I am not sure it would have made a difference anyway, but let him use 'his break'.

Don

Shawn Armstrong
11-08-2015, 10:24 AM
Kd. I agree with you. Congrats to Chinakov. He spent countless hours working on his jumping and safety play.

Here is the difference. Chinakov was allowed to use what he practiced hours to master.

Shane was not allowed to use what he practiced hours and hours to master.
His outstanding break. I am not sure it would have made a difference anyway, but let him use 'his break'.

Don

I thought you were done with the thread? Let it go. You'll feel better,

spartan
11-08-2015, 10:25 AM
No one cares if Shane loses
It's is groupies making excuses that our ridiculous that frustrates people
It's sad it makes people not appreciate his unbelievable game
He is works class no doubt
But he has a little dog in him
And also without the break he goes from world class to very good
Fundamentally he's behind the Europeans and Asians
But that comes from growing up on the bar box

Neutralize the racking Tom foolery and the players must rely totally on "talent "

My hats off to the Russian! All those hours working on kicking jumping and safety play finally paid off!

Kd


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Yes but get him off grass and tarmack and he could be beat
Get Shane out of his comfort zone and you can flip a coin on how he will perform ,
Let's also remember when they went to break box rules it took the break away from with big breaks from the rail ,

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++1
You guys speak words of wisdom :grin-square:
Like chess, it is not good enough to be strong in opening game, must also be strong in mid game and end game

spartan
11-08-2015, 10:28 AM
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scsuxci
11-08-2015, 08:13 PM
In so many ways this post is sad!

With all we know about racking and breaking Tom foolery. To glorify his mastery of the racking arts clumps him together with dechaine and dueul ! But, at least dueul was a pioneer! Shane practiced and followed the teachings of Charlie Bond in his book!

I admire his heart and determination. But, that could be said of many top players. Neutralize the racking Tom foolery and the players must rely totally on "talent "

My hats off to the Russian! All those hours working on kicking jumping and safety play finally paid off!

Kd


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Not sure what was sad about my comment. I'm not taking away from his loss
but my point was his ''break'' is his best weapon that was not allowed. Granted
the Russian played very well and deserved the win but you must admit, Shane
has had many great matches that were very close and most observers have
said the difference was his break.
This situation is exactly the same but reversed , he wasn't allowed to use
his main attribute.

Kid Dynomite
11-08-2015, 08:18 PM
Not sure what was sad about my comment. I'm not taking away from his loss
but my point was his ''break'' is his best weapon that was not allowed. Granted
the Russian played very well and deserved the win but you must admit, Shane
has had many great matches that were very close and most observers have
said the difference was his break.
This situation is exactly the same but reversed , he wasn't allowed to use
his main attribute.
The break in my opinion was meant to be random. Meaning no advantage or disadvantage to either player!

But, keep your opinion that the break is supposed to be manipulated.


Kd

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scsuxci
11-08-2015, 08:35 PM
The break in my opinion was meant to be random. Meaning no advantage or disadvantage to either player!

But, keep your opinion that the break is supposed to be manipulated.


Kd

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I'm really not getting your logic? I've never mentioned once that the break is
suppose to be manipulated. Pool is about consistency period !
Players practice for hundreds of hours to achieve constant consistency.
From a robotic stroke to controlling the break, these guys put in there time
to figure out the pool puzzle.
You might consider this manipulation but I consider it hours and hours of hard
work and time to get to the level these guys are on.
Both players should of been able to break from were they choose.
Do you think Shane would of won if he could of broke were he normally would?
If your answer is yes, then that is exactly my point.
If your answer is no, then the rule would not have mattered anyways.

Kid Dynomite
11-08-2015, 08:46 PM
I'm really not getting your logic? I've never mentioned once that the break is
suppose to be manipulated. Pool is about consistency period !
Players practice for hundreds of hours to achieve constant consistency.
From a robotic stroke to controlling the break, these guys put in there time
to figure out the pool puzzle.
You might consider this manipulation but I consider it hours and hours of hard
work and time to get to the level these guys are on.
Both players should of been able to break from were they choose.
Do you think Shane would of won if he could of broke were he normally would?
If your answer is yes, then that is exactly my point.
If your answer is no, then the rule would not have mattered anyways.
Originally the head and foot spot were for the cue ball and head ball. Any deviations is not the games original design.

Breaking from the rail and break box are new and for tv rules. Over many years the game has been altered.

You think optimization of the break is part of the game and I disagree! Break is method of achieving randomness! Your pool is not random but a dog and pony show!

Kd



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scsuxci
11-09-2015, 04:48 AM
Originally the head and foot spot were for the cue ball and head ball. Any deviations is not the games original design.

Breaking from the rail and break box are new and for tv rules. Over many years the game has been altered.

You think optimization of the break is part of the game and I disagree! Break is method of achieving randomness! Your pool is not random but a dog and pony show!

Kd



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So if I'm getting your logic, every part of pool is about consistency but your first
shot of the game '' the break'' is just some random ''blah'' shot for randomness,
but the rest of the game is about control? Makes 0% sense.

DaddysVisa
11-09-2015, 08:59 AM
I liken the break in pool to the drive on golf. It is more than just a shot to start the hole. It is a power shot that requires control and consistency, and even some strategy as well. It is undoubtedly a skill. I personally don't like pattern racking, manipulating the rack etc, but to state that the break is merely a way to randomize the game is a gross over-simplification.

Keith Jawahir
11-16-2015, 11:38 AM
I personally find it amusing. People have all kinds of shit to talk when Shane is outbreaking someone but are crybabies when the roles are reversed. There's been so much fangirling and flip-flopping in this thread, it's pathetic. I'm so glad I'm not a sports fan.