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mikeyfrost
11-11-2015, 11:08 AM
All these threads about backers money has me thinking of one thing. What is the most money a really good player has put in action on themselves that you know of?

I'm not talking about some poker players throwing money around. I'm talking about top pros that get down and bet their own. I think Donny Mills bet his own against SVB in that TAR match but I can't verify.

What really strong player bet the most on themselves? Also it does not count if they bet it on themselves basically on a freeroll cause they were so far winner already.

Neil
11-11-2015, 11:11 AM
All these threads about backers money has me thinking of one thing. What is the most money a really good player has put in action on themselves that you know of?

I'm not talking about some poker players throwing money around. I'm talking about top pros that get down and bet their own. I think Donny Mills bet his own against SVB in that TAR match but I can't verify.

What really strong player bet the most on themselves? Also it does not count if they bet it on themselves basically on a freeroll cause they were so far winner already.

You have to clarify it a little. Are you talking about betting on themselves to win, or to lose? :wink:

Kris_b1104
11-11-2015, 11:15 AM
I don't think we can definitely know for sure, players can get backed without the public knowing, like borrowing money from someone discreetly.

What if Dennis calls out Shane for a $2,000 match, but only has 1,000, he can just go to one of his backers and borrow the rest without anyone knowing, win the match and we would never know if he put up all of his own money, even if he said he did.

JoeyInCali
11-11-2015, 11:25 AM
Jack Cooney.
Nuff said.

Chicagoplayer
11-11-2015, 11:26 AM
All these threads about backers money has me thinking of one thing. What is the most money a really good player has put in action on themselves that you know of?

I'm not talking about some poker players throwing money around. I'm talking about top pros that get down and bet their own. I think Donny Mills bet his own against SVB in that TAR match but I can't verify.

What really strong player bet the most on themselves? Also it does not count if they bet it on themselves basically on a freeroll cause they were so far winner already.

100% me- hands down.
Ok, and Jack Cooney ;)

croscoe
11-11-2015, 11:32 AM
CJ Wiley Vs Earl .....?

mikeyfrost
11-11-2015, 11:39 AM
Jack Cooney.
Nuff said.

Be for real. I don't want to turn this into a talent debate but Jack is a hustler. I'm talking about players.

100% me- hands down.
Ok, and Jack Cooney ;)

Come on now.

JoeyInCali
11-11-2015, 11:46 AM
Be for real. I don't want to turn this into a talent debate but Jack is a hustler. I'm talking about players.



Come on now.

You don't think Jack is a player ????
He's a great one-pocket player .

mikeyfrost
11-11-2015, 11:52 AM
You don't think Jack is a player ????
He's a great one-pocket player .

I didn't mean for it to read like that, I was thinking of someone you might see blazing the tournament trail. He's obviously a legend.

gxman
11-11-2015, 12:14 PM
Idk if he would be classified as "real good", but jb had bet 10K vs lou and it was 100% his money.

#Cruncher
11-11-2015, 12:19 PM
Ritchie Florence had crazy gamble and played lights out. Jay Helfert could share some specifics.

Tooler
11-11-2015, 12:57 PM
Grady has to up there as well..... He almost always bet his own.


Good question for Dr Bill.;)

Today's players don't have a pot to piss in, let alone playin on their own dime.

Johnnyt
11-11-2015, 01:19 PM
This is a good post IMO. I have found very few top tier players that always bet their own. Some (VERY FEW) will bet their own up to a certain amount (maybe 1k to 5k). Yet a lot of them have no problem winning on a horses money and taking there share to the casino, racetrack or party with hookers. The next day they're looking for the stakehorse again for a $100 set. Never made any sense to me.:scratchhead: Johnnyt

terryhanna
11-11-2015, 01:44 PM
I think Alex Pagulayan bets high with his own money

stormshadow1
11-11-2015, 02:04 PM
I agree with Alex the lion has massive gamble in him.

Keith in Colorado

SilverCue
11-11-2015, 02:22 PM
Nick Varner bet his own and lost big at least once.

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HawaiianEye
11-11-2015, 02:39 PM
I don't know what is the greatest amount of money that St. Louis "Louie" Roberts ever had or bet at one time, but I know that he would bet "ALL" his money...whatever that happened to be.

Cracktherack
11-11-2015, 02:52 PM
Lets not forget Dippy Dave.

Nine ... corner
11-11-2015, 02:58 PM
John Barton ... sorry, I couldn't resist. :rolleyes:

measureman
11-11-2015, 02:58 PM
How do they dump when they bet their own money?

Spimp13
11-11-2015, 02:59 PM
Lets not forget Dippy Dave.

lol, thanks for the chuckle...he said "real good player/pro". Dippy is not even remotely close to a good player/pro.

MisspentYouth
11-11-2015, 03:04 PM
Earl Strickland said he put up 100K against Morro Paez. I could be wrong but I think he said it was his own money, although I kind of doubt that. I'm sure that's an old thread on here somewhere.

Baron
11-11-2015, 03:13 PM
I'm sure JAM can confirm or deny, but did the Earthquake bet high with his own? Or did he typically have backers?

Ronnie Allen also comes to mind. Could be wrong on both counts.

JB Cases
11-11-2015, 03:24 PM
Harold Worst was reported to have only bet on himself.

JB Cases
11-11-2015, 03:25 PM
John Barton ... sorry, I couldn't resist. :rolleyes:

Damn straight. But I certainly don't fit into the real good player category.

Neil
11-11-2015, 03:26 PM
How do they dump when they bet their own money?

By simply making a larger side bet on losing. Usually done with a partner to make the bet for them so as not to raise suspicion. I heard of a couple of players doing this a couple of years ago in a big international event. They reportedly pocketed 300K doing it by betting with a bookie.

(not going to name any names, so no one bother asking)

pt109
11-11-2015, 03:34 PM
I don't know what is the greatest amount of money that St. Louis "Louie" Roberts ever had or bet at one time, but I know that he would bet "ALL" his money...whatever that happened to be.

One of my favorite quotes...
...Louie was quizzed by an interviewer once about how much he thought he had lost...
...Louie said "Would you believe a down payment on an aircraft carrier?"

pt109
11-11-2015, 05:09 PM
Ritchie Florence had crazy gamble and played lights out. Jay Helfert could share some specifics.

Grady has to up there as well..... He almost always bet his own.


Good question for Dr Bill.;)

Today's players don't have a pot to piss in, let alone playin on their own dime.

Harold Worst was reported to have only bet on himself.

I think Alex Pagulayan bets high with his own money

Jose Parica belongs in this elite group.
...of the world class snooker players, Willie Thorne and John Spencer could send it.

u12armresl
11-11-2015, 05:14 PM
Jack wasn't hustling playing Toby when I was in Vegas and that was a huge game.

Jack gets my vote also.

Be for real. I don't want to turn this into a talent debate but Jack is a hustler. I'm talking about players.



Come on now.

white1
11-11-2015, 05:50 PM
Louie Roberts bet higher than anybody.......had more gamble than every player at that time.

michael4
11-11-2015, 06:02 PM
Yet a lot of them have no problem winning on a horses money and taking there share to the casino, racetrack or party with hookers.
Never made any sense to me.:scratchhead: Johnnyt

don't underestimate the value of a good party with hookers ;)

mikeyfrost
11-11-2015, 06:02 PM
I've heard of SVB shipping in $40k of his own on a bet but I can't validate that. Paez was known for betting really high on himself as well. When I wrote the question though I honestly thought the answer was going to be Keith McCready or another one of the greats that made it through the 80s era

JB Cases
11-11-2015, 06:25 PM
I will ask Alex but I would bet that he is very high up there for betting on himself.

8ballEinstein
11-11-2015, 06:30 PM
When I wrote the question though I honestly thought the answer was going to be Keith McCready or another one of the greats that made it through the 80s era

Keith would bet whatever he had in his pocket. If he was flush from a big score, he'd put up his whole wad.

The real answer to your question would have to be Jack Cooney. Although he was a hustler, he took time out to match up with top One-Pocket talent - Toby Flaherty, James Walden, Cliff Joyner and many more.

sonny_burnett
11-11-2015, 07:09 PM
Harry Platis, Richard "bucktooth" Cook?

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mikeyfrost
11-11-2015, 07:43 PM
I got a text that says hands down the answer is Scott Frost and everybody else is runner up

pt109
11-11-2015, 07:59 PM
Cornbread Red deserves to be mentioned here..
....he was like Keith, if he had it, he would bet it.

I walked in one day at the Rack, and Red was looking like someone ran over his dog...
...I said "Red, what's wrong?"
..he said "Steve Cook just asked me to play one-hole for $50 a game....can you imagine
two good players playing for $50?...I'll give 'im $500 to take his ass back to Florida."

Tooler
11-11-2015, 08:27 PM
Yeah...forgot all about Red. The dude had serious gamble.

spartan
11-11-2015, 08:42 PM
By simply making a larger side bet on losing. Usually done with a partner to make the bet for them so as not to raise suspicion. I heard of a couple of players doing this a couple of years ago in a big international event. They reportedly pocketed 300K doing it by betting with a bookie.

(not going to name any names, so no one bother asking)

True. Because most of the top players can beat each other, it is quite easy to throw pool match
I think you are referring 1st ICC final Lebron v Buddy Hall
:grin-square:

pt109
11-11-2015, 08:59 PM
True. Because most of the top players can beat each other, it is quite easy to throw pool match
I think you are referring 1st ICC final Lebron v Buddy Hall
:grin-square:

That was a lot longer than a couple years ago.

u12armresl
11-11-2015, 09:20 PM
If you are referring to any games in Vegas or against DD, I think those have to be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm surprised that none of the stakehorses have jumped in even though you said pool players shipping their own. The backers are known to be as braggadocios as can be.

I got a text that says hands down the answer is Scott Frost and everybody else is runner up

terryhanna
11-11-2015, 09:25 PM
I've heard of SVB shipping in $40k of his own on a bet but I can't validate that. Paez was known for betting really high on himself as well. When I wrote the question though I honestly thought the answer was going to be Keith McCready or another one of the greats that made it through the 80s era
Some of the old school guys like Keith McCready and Louie Roberts were just flat out gamblers.

They often gave up the nuts and would try and out run it and go all in with every last Dime they had and could borrow lol

real bartram
11-11-2015, 09:32 PM
If you are referring to any games in Vegas or against DD, I think those have to be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm surprised that none of the stakehorses have jumped in even though you said pool players shipping their own. The backers are known to be as braggadocios as can be.

Yes he is a low life .

mikeyfrost
11-11-2015, 10:20 PM
Yes he is a low life .

Who is the low life...I assume the Dip is the answer.

The only thing real clear about this thread is good players and pros rarely bet their own. That's painfully obvious. I think a lot cover 20% or so of bets but not much more

raise1
11-11-2015, 10:26 PM
Old days, I guess it's Cooney.

For the modern days, it's SVB and the Criminal.

I know for a fact that SVB bet 5 digits of his own a few years back.

raise1
11-11-2015, 10:28 PM
I will ask Alex but I would bet that he is very high up there for betting on himself.

Alex supposedly lost high 5 digits of his own in the Philippines many years ago against DO.

Tin Man
11-11-2015, 11:01 PM
Times change.

In the 70s there was a river of money flowing to the top players. They could cruise around the roads relatively unknown and pick up $5-20/rack action in random bars against guys that had no chance. Cost of living on the road was low. Then they'd get into routine games against local champions that also had no chance and pick up easy money.

Top players weren't afraid of betting it all and going broke because they could go right back to the well of bar hopping and local champs. The local champs weren't afraid to go broke because they'd get backed or would just win it back at the bars the same way.

All in all, there was a ton of money being gambled across the board and so the top players just weren't tight.

The last 15 years has been the opposite. Costs are record high on the road. The economy is much worse. Numbers of amateur players is decreasing, and more of them are playing in handicapped leagues at bars with bingo and poker and cornhole and karaoke than are playing in pool halls. Getting $10/rack action playing 9 ball is a long shot anymore. Everyone knows the pecking order, and no one wants to book a loser or take a shot.

So for all except for the top player in each country pool is a losing proposition. The other top players might score big but they'll be broke again when variance takes it's toll. And lord knows the local champs aren't making money. Shoot, 10 years ago I could make almost $1,000/month playing local tournaments because at least they weren't handicapped. Anymore it's probably more like $200 a month (if I still played, wonder why I'm playing more poker the last two years...). Point is I'm not reloading top pros anymore.

My point- it's not really fair to compare the gamble of a Louis Roberts or a Keith McCready to the gamble of a Justin Hall or a Chip Compton. I'm certain that if there was as much dead money today as there was in the 70s the players today wouldn't seem so nitty and would be willing to nose bleed just as high.

PS- what's shaking frosty!

JumpinJoe
11-12-2015, 02:53 AM
Jack wasn't hustling playing Toby when I was in Vegas and that was a huge game.

Jack gets my vote also.

I saw him play Toby at the cue club in 99 for over 50k

JumpinJoe
11-12-2015, 02:59 AM
And I'm sure this guys up real high on the list, no ones mentioned.
He's had so much up on that light before it's taken a forklift to get it up there.
He may just be the biggest.
He's got so much gamble he bet 15k on me once, not knowing me from atom.

Ronnie Wiseman

real bartram
11-12-2015, 05:01 AM
Who is the low life...I assume the Dip is the answer.

The only thing real clear about this thread is good players and pros rarely bet their own. That's painfully obvious. I think a lot cover 20% or so of bets but not much more

Yes dip shit is a low life .

real bartram
11-12-2015, 05:04 AM
Old days, I guess it's Cooney.

For the modern days, it's SVB and the Criminal.

I know for a fact that SVB bet 5 digits of his own a few years back.

I use to bet a lot with my own money .
But the way things are in pool you really can't anymore .
There just isn't any money in pool unless your top 5 in the world.
And the world is a big place .

real bartram
11-12-2015, 05:05 AM
Times change.

In the 70s there was a river of money flowing to the top players. They could cruise around the roads relatively unknown and pick up $5-20/rack action in random bars against guys that had no chance. Cost of living on the road was low. Then they'd get into routine games against local champions that also had no chance and pick up easy money.

Top players weren't afraid of betting it all and going broke because they could go right back to the well of bar hopping and local champs. The local champs weren't afraid to go broke because they'd get backed or would just win it back at the bars the same way.

All in all, there was a ton of money being gambled across the board and so the top players just weren't tight.

The last 15 years has been the opposite. Costs are record high on the road. The economy is much worse. Numbers of amateur players is decreasing, and more of them are playing in handicapped leagues at bars with bingo and poker and cornhole and karaoke than are playing in pool halls. Getting $10/rack action playing 9 ball is a long shot anymore. Everyone knows the pecking order, and no one wants to book a loser or take a shot.

So for all except for the top player in each country pool is a losing proposition. The other top players might score big but they'll be broke again when variance takes it's toll. And lord knows the local champs aren't making money. Shoot, 10 years ago I could make almost $1,000/month playing local tournaments because at least they weren't handicapped. Anymore it's probably more like $200 a month (if I still played, wonder why I'm playing more poker the last two years...). Point is I'm not reloading top pros anymore.

My point- it's not really fair to compare the gamble of a Louis Roberts or a Keith McCready to the gamble of a Justin Hall or a Chip Compton. I'm certain that if there was as much dead money today as there was in the 70s the players today wouldn't seem so nitty and would be willing to nose bleed just as high.

PS- what's shaking frosty!

Good post
So true

JAM
11-12-2015, 05:14 AM
And I'm sure this guys up real high on the list, no ones mentioned.
He's had so much up on that light before it's taken a forklift to get it up there.
He may just be the biggest.
He's got so much gamble he bet 15k on me once, not knowing me from atom.

Ronnie Wiseman

True dat! ;)

JAM
11-12-2015, 05:14 AM
Some of the old school guys like Keith McCready and Louie Roberts were just flat out gamblers.

They often gave up the nuts and would try and out run it and go all in with every last Dime they had and could borrow lol

True dat! ;)

JAM
11-12-2015, 05:15 AM
Yes dip shit is a low life .

True dat! :angry:

JAM
11-12-2015, 05:21 AM
Times change.

In the 70s there was a river of money flowing to the top players. They could cruise around the roads relatively unknown and pick up $5-20/rack action in random bars against guys that had no chance. Cost of living on the road was low. Then they'd get into routine games against local champions that also had no chance and pick up easy money.

Top players weren't afraid of betting it all and going broke because they could go right back to the well of bar hopping and local champs. The local champs weren't afraid to go broke because they'd get backed or would just win it back at the bars the same way.

All in all, there was a ton of money being gambled across the board and so the top players just weren't tight.

The last 15 years has been the opposite. Costs are record high on the road. The economy is much worse. Numbers of amateur players is decreasing, and more of them are playing in handicapped leagues at bars with bingo and poker and cornhole and karaoke than are playing in pool halls. Getting $10/rack action playing 9 ball is a long shot anymore. Everyone knows the pecking order, and no one wants to book a loser or take a shot.

So for all except for the top player in each country pool is a losing proposition. The other top players might score big but they'll be broke again when variance takes it's toll. And lord knows the local champs aren't making money. Shoot, 10 years ago I could make almost $1,000/month playing local tournaments because at least they weren't handicapped. Anymore it's probably more like $200 a month (if I still played, wonder why I'm playing more poker the last two years...). Point is I'm not reloading top pros anymore.

My point- it's not really fair to compare the gamble of a Louis Roberts or a Keith McCready to the gamble of a Justin Hall or a Chip Compton. I'm certain that if there was as much dead money today as there was in the 70s the players today wouldn't seem so nitty and would be willing to nose bleed just as high.

PS- what's shaking frosty!

Well, here's the skinny on that last paragraph beginning with "My point."

Players from Keith's era were road warriors going from city to city looking and hoping to get played. They would walk in bars and pool rooms as the "stranger in town." Sometimes they would play with a house cue, a metal cue even, in order to get played, while the house pro would play with their own personal cues. It wasn't always a win for the road warriors. Sometimes they got beat and would leave town with empty pockets.

The point here, though, is they stepped up to the plate and many times played blind, not knowing who or what the capability was of their opponent.

Most times today, there's so much barking back and forth, handicapping, players looking for the edge, establishing the rules to their favor. A good handicapper knows how to set up a game today where they may have the edge, kind of like Earl playing Shane on a snooker table. :grin-square:

Players who claim they want to gamble today seem to be looking for a lock or somebody to drop their wallet. They don't seem to want to gamble. They want to steal. There are a few exceptions to this, of course. I'd say Chris Bartram is one of the exceptions. He gambles the way players gambled in Keith's era.

That's my loose change to this topic. :thumbup:

mikeyfrost
11-12-2015, 07:40 AM
Times change.

In the 70s there was a river of money flowing to the top players. They could cruise around the roads relatively unknown and pick up $5-20/rack action in random bars against guys that had no chance. Cost of living on the road was low. Then they'd get into routine games against local champions that also had no chance and pick up easy money.

Top players weren't afraid of betting it all and going broke because they could go right back to the well of bar hopping and local champs. The local champs weren't afraid to go broke because they'd get backed or would just win it back at the bars the same way.

All in all, there was a ton of money being gambled across the board and so the top players just weren't tight.

The last 15 years has been the opposite. Costs are record high on the road. The economy is much worse. Numbers of amateur players is decreasing, and more of them are playing in handicapped leagues at bars with bingo and poker and cornhole and karaoke than are playing in pool halls. Getting $10/rack action playing 9 ball is a long shot anymore. Everyone knows the pecking order, and no one wants to book a loser or take a shot.

So for all except for the top player in each country pool is a losing proposition. The other top players might score big but they'll be broke again when variance takes it's toll. And lord knows the local champs aren't making money. Shoot, 10 years ago I could make almost $1,000/month playing local tournaments because at least they weren't handicapped. Anymore it's probably more like $200 a month (if I still played, wonder why I'm playing more poker the last two years...). Point is I'm not reloading top pros anymore.

My point- it's not really fair to compare the gamble of a Louis Roberts or a Keith McCready to the gamble of a Justin Hall or a Chip Compton. I'm certain that if there was as much dead money today as there was in the 70s the players today wouldn't seem so nitty and would be willing to nose bleed just as high.

PS- what's shaking frosty!

Good perspective Demi and I didn't think of it much like that before. I've seen lord knows how many of these champs go bust...hell Jumpin usually busts them haha. The thing is its always relatively cheap. Backers have the money and the power...that's a problem. Then again who's got the money...Lebron or the one who writes the checks to Lebron.

mikeyfrost
11-12-2015, 07:41 AM
And I'm sure this guys up real high on the list, no ones mentioned.
He's had so much up on that light before it's taken a forklift to get it up there.
He may just be the biggest.
He's got so much gamble he bet 15k on me once, not knowing me from atom.

Ronnie Wiseman

4 pages before an RW mention is crazy. He's gotta be in the top running.

JB Cases
11-12-2015, 08:33 AM
4 pages before an RW mention is crazy. He's gotta be in the top running.

How about Billy Incardona?

Or Rolling in His Grave GRADY MATTHEWS?

Colonel
11-12-2015, 08:39 AM
How about Billy Incardona?



Or Rolling in His Grave GRADY MATTHEWS?


Grady ALWAYS bet his own. I remember a lecture from him once after he watched me wack up $ with a horse after a match where he said, "Why do you want to split 1/2 of what you won with your skill with someone just posting $? I replied "no risk". To that he replied, "yes there's no risk of loss, but you'll also never know the joy of walking out of the hall with your pockets jammed with Cecil's & not having to wack it up with anyone".

mikeyfrost
11-12-2015, 09:47 PM
Grady was a solid fellow

kkdanamatt
11-12-2015, 10:26 PM
Grady was a solid fellow

Add Marshall Carpenter to the list.
In the early Sixties the Squirrel was a big money one-pocket player.

He told me that he couldn't get a decent bet on any more one-hole games, so he switched to hustling golf in 1964.

As far as I know, he bet his own money.

watchez
11-12-2015, 10:52 PM
Tony Watson at the DCC - I'm probably wrong but I got the impression that was his bankroll pushing out of all of his pockets.

Louie would get staked, win and then take all his money and play Buddy Hall and lose.

Bartram confirmed but when I first read this one of the first thoughts that came to mind was him and Kid Delicious.

Jimmy Wetch back in the day would -- he was of course a Cooney protégé and learned well.

onepocketron
11-13-2015, 01:15 AM
Times change.

In the 70s there was a river of money flowing to the top players. They could cruise around the roads relatively unknown and pick up $5-20/rack action in random bars against guys that had no chance. Cost of living on the road was low. Then they'd get into routine games against local champions that also had no chance and pick up easy money.

Top players weren't afraid of betting it all and going broke because they could go right back to the well of bar hopping and local champs. The local champs weren't afraid to go broke because they'd get backed or would just win it back at the bars the same way.

All in all, there was a ton of money being gambled across the board and so the top players just weren't tight.

The last 15 years has been the opposite. Costs are record high on the road. The economy is much worse. Numbers of amateur players is decreasing, and more of them are playing in handicapped leagues at bars with bingo and poker and cornhole and karaoke than are playing in pool halls. Getting $10/rack action playing 9 ball is a long shot anymore. Everyone knows the pecking order, and no one wants to book a loser or take a shot.

So for all except for the top player in each country pool is a losing proposition. The other top players might score big but they'll be broke again when variance takes it's toll. And lord knows the local champs aren't making money. Shoot, 10 years ago I could make almost $1,000/month playing local tournaments because at least they weren't handicapped. Anymore it's probably more like $200 a month (if I still played, wonder why I'm playing more poker the last two years...). Point is I'm not reloading top pros anymore.

My point- it's not really fair to compare the gamble of a Louis Roberts or a Keith McCready to the gamble of a Justin Hall or a Chip Compton. I'm certain that if there was as much dead money today as there was in the 70s the players today wouldn't seem so nitty and would be willing to nose bleed just as high.

PS- what's shaking frosty!

This is so true, not to mention the internet came along so being "unknown" is a lot harder now days. I've seen a good friend, back in the old days, ask to see their drivers license many times. They wanted to make sure the guy was who he said he was. :)

david(tx)
11-13-2015, 01:42 AM
Tony Watson at the DCC - I'm probably wrong but I got the impression that was his bankroll pushing out of all of his pockets.

Louie would get staked, win and then take all his money and play Buddy Hall and lose.

Bartram confirmed but when I first read this one of the first thoughts that came to mind was him and Kid Delicious.

Jimmy Wetch back in the day would -- he was of course a Cooney protégé and learned well.

Tony Watson came through Dallas in late 80's with bankroll busting out of his pockets , not to smart flashing it . He was a teenager . Didn't he get robbed in Tennessee ?His was with Del Ballard the bowler , a relative i think .

pt109
11-13-2015, 06:56 AM
Bob Ogburn could shove it with both hands

mikeyfrost
11-13-2015, 10:47 AM
Always good to hear when people bet their own. I know it's hard to do, but that's the only way I ever believe in the game

8ballEinstein
11-13-2015, 11:35 AM
Jack wasn't hustling playing Toby when I was in Vegas and that was a huge game.

Jack gets my vote also.

Actually, that one may have been a hustle. On their last match up, some people thought Jack may have intentionally pushed the set out to 11 days just so he could have Toby on the hook for another round.

sjm
11-13-2015, 12:44 PM
Jack Cooney.
Nuff said.

Certainly by reputation, Jack Cooney is the answer here.

JCIN
11-13-2015, 01:31 PM
Guys I know/have seen who will bet their own:

Shane
Frost
Wiseman
Bart
Oscar
Edit: Cant beleive I left out Grady. Zero fvcks given by Grady when it came time to ship it.

There are others but these stick out.

The players I always kind of shook my head at were the guys who refused to bet their own. They would woof up a storm if they had a horse but had no problem at all telling you they had zero interest in betting their own. I understand it. The first rule in Hollywood is never use your own money on a movie so its not unique to pool. But I always looked at those guys different.

Biggest bet I have seen that I knew for sure was from the player was Shane. It was five figures. Happened multiple times. Other guys I can't say for sure. I can say that plenty of times I was told by a guy he was betting his own to find out different later.

justinb386
11-13-2015, 03:49 PM
I was told that Pat Mcmillan (a really strong player from St. Louis, back in the late 90's) had a lot of gamble in him, and was not afraid to lose his entire bank roll.

book collector
11-13-2015, 07:52 PM
If you are referring to any games in Vegas or against DD, I think those have to be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm surprised that none of the stakehorses have jumped in even though you said pool players shipping their own. The backers are known to be as braggadocios as can be.

Some of them have a right to be , I knew of one that seemed to find a way to get the money nearly every time for many years.
Then , like the rest of us , he got old and lost a step, which is usually all that separates a winner from an also ran.

jamesroberts
11-16-2015, 01:29 AM
I've bet more on myself than Donny ever thought of .

mikeyfrost
11-16-2015, 03:32 AM
I've bet more on myself than Donny ever thought of .

We know bro..we knowwww

randallt6
12-16-2015, 09:19 AM
I've bet more on myself than Donny ever thought of .

lolllllllllll

boyraks
12-16-2015, 10:38 AM
Alex supposedly lost high 5 digits of his own in the Philippines many years ago against DO.
Alex played Alcano in the Phils for big money. It was his new BMW against any takers. There was another 20k bet on the side.