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Ak Guy
07-12-2016, 11:29 AM
If all cue shafts had equal dimensions, what is the stiffest shaft wood?

I have 30" Lake Salvage Shafts from Diviney, a purple heart shaft on a jump cue and a Dymonwood shaft I some times break and jump with.

Of the shafts I have I would guess the Dymondwood is the stiffest. But it is also a larger diameter then my other shafts and a bit shorter.

ElLeon
07-12-2016, 11:37 AM
Dymonwood being impregnated with a resin, should either be excluded from the list as it is not true wood, or considered the stiffest as it's material composition presents an unfair comparison.

This would seem to be an apples to apples comparison such as "which is the sweetest type of apple? Gala, fuji or starburst candy?"

billiardthought
07-12-2016, 11:57 AM
An all ebony shaft. I believe ideologist was selling a 7 oz ebony shaft not too long ago. Don't know of anything that could be stiffer than that.

CrownCityCorey
07-12-2016, 03:54 PM
......Ash.........

cubswin
07-12-2016, 04:03 PM
I'd have to say ash, of the woods that are used for cues.

A maple shaft, with the right taper, can be very stiff hitting. I have a couple of stiff taper shafts for two different cues.

RiverCity
07-12-2016, 04:07 PM
I have to say dymond wood.
Ive hit with the strangest Schon cue ever made, it has a green dymond wood shaft, and it was stupid stiff. :grin:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/CaptHook/photo30_zpscse9opqp.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/CaptHook/media/photo30_zpscse9opqp.jpg.html)

pwd72s
07-12-2016, 04:50 PM
I doubt anybody has made a shaft from it, but the hardest, most dense wood known to man...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignum_vitae

tbayplayer
07-12-2016, 05:40 PM
I use a lyptus shaft for breaking, stiff like a purpleheart shaft, grainy, porous

9Ballr
07-12-2016, 05:43 PM
If all cue shafts had equal dimensions, what is the stiffest shaft wood?

I have 30" Lake Salvage Shafts from Diviney, a purple heart shaft on a jump cue and a Dymonwood shaft I some times break and jump with.

Of the shafts I have I would guess the Dymondwood is the stiffest. But it is also a larger diameter then my other shafts and a bit shorter.


Go here:
http://woodmonsters.com/wood-charts-density-hardness-stiffness-and-strength.html

And click "Stiffness Chart".
That took about 5 seconds on Google.

couldnthinkof01
07-12-2016, 06:08 PM
The innuendo this game has in spades is very hard to resist. Im a firm believer that toliet humor is funny at every age.

john coloccia
07-12-2016, 06:34 PM
I doubt anybody has made a shaft from it, but the hardest, most dense wood known to man...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignum_vitae

Ipe's even stiffer, but it's not as dense. I'd really love to see someone make an Ipe shaft, just as a gag.

Kickin' Chicken
07-12-2016, 06:56 PM
pretty sure it would be peckerwood.

yes, peckerwood.

best,
brian kc

Cuebuddy
07-12-2016, 07:26 PM
I doubt anybody has made a shaft from it, but the hardest, most dense wood known to man...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignum_vitae

I have made several Lignum Vitae cues but only one that the shaft was also LV. I took the cue to a tournament and it sold before I was able to get a photo of it. I will make another this winter and post pics in one of my Mini cue threads.

The wood is remarkable to turn and has a smell that is like no other. Also it can be polished so shiny you don't even need a finish, its definitely tacky due to the natural oils in it. The grain is hash marked much like Ivory.:cool:

Cuebuddy
07-12-2016, 07:27 PM
pretty sure it would be peckerwood.

yes, peckerwood.

best,
brian kc

No doubt but not much fun to turn on a lathe.;)

63Kcode
07-12-2016, 07:32 PM
No doubt but not much fun to turn on a lathe.;)

Yes, but when you find someone who has a good stroke!

Larry

Chopdoc
07-12-2016, 08:26 PM
I have to say dymond wood.
Ive hit with the strangest Schon cue ever made, it has a green dymond wood shaft, and it was stupid stiff. :grin:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/CaptHook/photo30_zpscse9opqp.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/CaptHook/media/photo30_zpscse9opqp.jpg.html)

Dude!

You hit with that cue!? :confused:


That has to be the strangest. :eek:




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The Renfro
07-12-2016, 09:17 PM
Go here:
http://woodmonsters.com/wood-charts-density-hardness-stiffness-and-strength.html

And click "Stiffness Chart".
That took about 5 seconds on Google.

Google shows several sources and my interest lately has been on the ash claims that have been going around awhile... The flooring numbers do not list species and major league baseball bats have been going to hard maple over the last few years because it is denser, stronger and stiffer...

This is a link to one of the Wood Industry publications listing hard and soft maple but getting into the actual 18 maple species the numbers may have a wider range...

If you check page 7 it shows Hard Maple being stiffer and stronger than White Ash...http://www.slma.org/pdf/Hardwood-Handbook.pdf

Lots of info here as well with links to go further down the rabit hole on comparing ash to maple...... http://www.woodbat.org/

as far as a quick look it does make you wonder from the link you provided why we don't see more exotic wood shafts..... Maybe tonality and resonance???

Ak Guy
07-13-2016, 01:22 AM
I wasn't really counting Dymonwood as a playing shaft and was not very clear I guess.

Some of the answers are funny.

Double-Dave
07-13-2016, 01:53 AM
So from the list on woodmonsters the answer appears to be Massaranduba.
This wood was used by Mezz in one of their break shafts, though only as a core.

A full shaft would be stupid heavy (the Mezz ones were over 5Oz) and presumably extremely stiff.

Lesh
07-13-2016, 08:34 AM
Someone offered me a special one-off shaft that was made by a local cue maker. It was perfect for an older Predator sneaky pete I'd grown fond of and wanted a good shaft to get more action with less effort. So I got the special shaft from this cue maker, it was a uni-loc of course, made from an old baseball bat that they bought at a flea market (ASH). I thought this would be perfect. it was standard length with a 12.5mm tip. it hit very sold and the workmanship was flawless. Nice 1" ferrule that looked to be LBM.

This Ash shaft hit like a caricature of how people teasingly say a Meucci shaft hits. It is really whippy, but I kind of like it when making short small-ball pool moves is needed. Its very predictable.

The most rigid shaft I've ever shot with was the shaft that came with my Adam "Julio Stamboulini" Cue... its a short pro taper - about 10 inches, but its very stiff. Stiffer than my Predator Z2.

Just felt like sharing :)

Lesh

fastone371
07-13-2016, 10:27 AM
Since Dymondwood and Peckwood are included my guess for the stiffest non-wood shaft material would (wood) be carbon fiber.