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DrCue'sProtege
07-26-2016, 04:48 PM
For everybody's information I searched on Lasik. I found a lot of threads and read through some of them. A lot of the responses were that Lasik helped. However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP

RickLafayette
07-26-2016, 04:52 PM
Some people who wear glasses have a hard time looking over the frames when they get low for a shot. They either have to look over the glasses or through at an angle. Lasik would solve this dilemma. I had Lasik done about 8 years ago and I can't count the advantages of not having to wear glasses.

DrCue'sProtege
07-26-2016, 04:55 PM
Some people who wear glasses have a hard time looking over the frames when they get low for a shot. They either have to look over the glasses or through at an angle. Lasik would solve this dilemma. I had Lasik done about 8 years ago and I can't count the advantages of not having to wear glasses.

Did it make you a better pool player? Or just less inconvenience?

Cornerman
07-26-2016, 04:56 PM
For everybody's information I searched on Lasik. I found a lot of threads and read through some of them. A lot of the responses were that Lasik helped. However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP
You'll find my posts. Whatever you do , don't do it just because you think it will help your pool game. Do it for other reasons.


Freddie <~~~ LASIK for life

RiverCity
07-26-2016, 04:56 PM
Ive thought about getting the eye surgery, but to be honest I still dont trust it. I know its now well tested, low problem rates etc...... but I value my eyes, and contacts arent that big of an inconvenience to me. ;):thumbup:

NightLife
07-26-2016, 05:05 PM
Ask your doctor about "Crystal Lens" before having Lasik.

Much more expensive but you get what you pay for.

NightLife

RickLafayette
07-26-2016, 05:36 PM
Did it make you a better pool player? Or just less inconvenience?

It didn't improve my game much. I didn't have the issue with the eyeglass frames because I was wearing contacts. My body started rejecting the contacts and, rather than go to glasses, I elected to have the surgery...best money I ever spent.

kkdanamatt
07-26-2016, 05:38 PM
For everybody's information I searched on Lasik. I found a lot of threads and read through some of them. A lot of the responses were that Lasik helped. However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP

Ask Efren.

u12armresl
07-26-2016, 05:49 PM
" I found a lot of threads and read through some of them"

"I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads."

Reminds me so much of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvr1KEeE3Lw&t=3m23s




For everybody's information I searched on Lasik. I found a lot of threads and read through some of them. A lot of the responses were that Lasik helped. However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP

Player
07-26-2016, 07:15 PM
I recently got glasses because the balls were getting fuzzy. The glasses make everything nice and clear, but they change things. The balls look huge and it changes your depth perception. I think I play as good or better without them.

ctyhntr
07-26-2016, 07:32 PM
Lasik is just one type of treatment, there is also PRK, and cataract surgery which can achieve the same results. So, it's not a cure all just like advising inside english on all shots.

Whats your age and strength of your prescription? Do you know if are far sighted, near sighted (myopia), and or have astigmatism?

bral
07-26-2016, 07:34 PM
I recently got glasses because the balls were getting fuzzy. The glasses make everything nice and clear, but they change things. The balls look huge and it changes your depth perception. I think I play as good or better without them.

It's funny that you should post this, I have the same situation when I go from glasses to contacts. (Both for nearsightedness) I'm sure if I stuck with it I'd adapt, but in the interim it sure messes with your shotmaking "recognition"

DallasHopps
07-26-2016, 07:38 PM
It's vision correction surgery... they don't implant bionic angle finders or aiming aides.

If your corrected vision now doesn't include physical impediments (having to work around frame line-of-sight issues, lens distortion, etc) then you can't realistically expect any effect on your pool game. Comfortable contact lenses offered me the same pool results.

mattkenefick
07-26-2016, 07:39 PM
Get LASEK instead of LASIK.

LASEK is more like sanding your eyes down to get it right.

LASIK is more like cutting it and then sealing the cut.


Some people see halos at night when they get LASIK done because their pupils dilate beyond the diameter of the incisions.

I had LASEK done and it's fantastic. It took me a while to make the decision, but that's the way I went.

One thing is that the LASEK healing time is a bit longer than LASIK.

7forlife
07-26-2016, 08:07 PM
I don't see how it will "make you better" but I'm sure it will help, as someone mentioned the big thing is seeing the balls (edge) clearer but putting pirelli on your car don't make you a better driver. I have a pair of shooting glasses and that was a big help as far as getting around the regular frame problem people mention. Contact are not exactly the answer for me because of they don't come in as many increment as glass does and i kind of fall between, I don't play on doing some kind of surgery down the road keeping in mind that it's something i'd have to do down the road if i want to keep up with that vision until i run out of chances. (depending on the amount they have to cut you may only have one change at getting your vision corrected, as you get older and eyesight fades again you will have to redo the procedure, or not)

Tbone10
07-26-2016, 09:08 PM
Got lasik as soon as I turned 18. Haven't had any problems and was seeing 20/20 the very next morning after the operation. Maybe had dry eyes for a month or 2 but not enough to really bother me. So much easier now when playing pool, riding motorcycles, camping, swimming etc.

gogg
07-26-2016, 10:04 PM
Age is a factor... Lasek several years I ago and it rocks!
But get around fifty and the "focus muscles" are, well, fifty years old.
I see pretty well without, but have glasses again now. (But really less prescription)

mattkenefick
07-26-2016, 10:11 PM
Age is a factor... Lasek several years I ago and it rocks!
But get around fifty and the "focus muscles" are, well, fifty years old.
I see pretty well without, but have glasses again now. (But really less prescription)

My doctor also said I'm going to need reading glasses after a certain age regardless and eye surgery won't help anymore

kcnate66
07-27-2016, 09:28 AM
I had a bad astigmatism and was seeing a halo around the object balls, so I literally was shooting from muscle memory only. After the edge of the object ball is crisp and clear. I do get dry eye pretty bad but I'm still less than a year out from the surgery. It can take up to a full year for the severed nerve endings to completely heal.

Nostroke
07-27-2016, 09:36 AM
If you are over 50-forget it- You cant turn back time.

Jaden
07-27-2016, 10:44 AM
For everybody's information I searched on Lasik. I found a lot of threads and read through some of them. A lot of the responses were that Lasik helped. However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP

It's greatly going to depend on WHY you need lasik...

I had degeneration due to astigmatisms that had developed. I got glasses issued when I had found out that my eye sight wasn't better than 20/20 any more after testing to become a youth correctional counselor for the state of california.

I got past the issue of the glasses falling down by strapping them to my head, but it was much better after having lasik.

I was seeing two balls on the long shots prior to the glasses and lasik so i had to guess on the longer shots, now I can see them just fine.

Jaden

fastone371
07-27-2016, 10:44 AM
If you are over 50-forget it- You cant turn back time.

You really took the wind out of my sail. My vision started getting pretty bad the last couple years, I have not seen eye doctor yet but I will be going soon. I have never needed vision correction of any kind but I think I also have scar tissue on my right eye. I have gotten metal in it a few times, one time when I had pink eye, I didnt know about that sliver until I noticed halos around street lights driving home from work. My family Dr. sent me to an eye specialist, he found the sliver right over my pupil and there was a rust ring around it, he had to grind a pretty good chunk out to remove the rust ring. He told me it would heal fine but I may have some scar tissue. Last couple of years I have had to use a magnifying glass pretty regular. I got something in my eye again about 2 years ago, the nurses kinda laughed when they gave me my eye test, I guess I did not do so well. Its kinda weird, sometimes my eyes seem real bad, other times they seem pretty good.

Bob 14:1
07-27-2016, 11:09 AM
I tried to help you with this very point c. one year ago. I even addressed the chance, and a good chance, that at your age you are probably having problems with cataracts.

But since you've put me on your ignore list, I won't even try to offer you any information.

Any coherent person would schedule a thorough eye examination and get a professional and proper determination.

God bless you. Try praying to improve your game instead of all these ubiquitous threads.

If not, throw some balls through your wall paneling, or smash a perfectly good cue, as you have done in the past. I've never found it helpful, as I prefer to do practice drills instead, but apparently you do.

cleary
07-27-2016, 11:12 AM
You should consider doing your own lasik. They have home kits on eBay. At least give it a try before you blow all that money!

Bob 14:1
07-27-2016, 11:19 AM
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=428034
Check out #6 in the thread link above; the post of the year, by Barnabus McDoug...

tonythetiger583
07-27-2016, 11:22 AM
You should consider doing your own lasik. They have home kits on eBay. At least give it a try before you blow all that money!

...Are they the same ones that let you do nifty designs in wood as well?

chefjeff
07-27-2016, 01:36 PM
For everybody's information I searched on Lasik. I found a lot of threads and read through some of them. A lot of the responses were that Lasik helped. However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP

Sort of, maybe. Somedays I wish I hadn't had it.

Tiger's game went down after his surgery. Didn't Efren get it a few years back and his game fell a notch, too, iirc.

Let me just say it depends on the specifics of your eyes, your age, and finally the exact correction made. I recommend, for pool, about 30/20, NOT 20/20. 2020 means you probably won't be able to read without glasses and beings we're inside 95% of the time, 20/20 isn't necessary for most unless you are a hunter or something like that.

I can read without glasses, play pool without 'em, legally drive without them, but I can't see clearly past about 6 feet and that makes the big table a problem for me now.

Long answer, but it isn't a simple problem.


Remember, your brain and eyes have been married to each other for years and divorcing them takes a long while to get used to again.


Jeff Livingston

BillCurran2020
07-27-2016, 01:46 PM
I would advise against getting Lasik surgery. When it comes to lasik, it will improve your distance vision, but the result from having the surgery you will need glasses for up close aka readers. In the long run, nothing was achieved or accomplished. You will end up paying $4,000+ for surgery just to end up going one end of the spectrum to the other.

Consider purchasing a pair of billiard glasses. Our rimless billiard glasses are fashionable, and they're a lot easier on your wallet than Lasik surgery.

www.billiard-glasses.com
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chefjeff
07-27-2016, 01:48 PM
If you are over 50-forget it- You cant turn back time.

Actually waiting until after you need reading glasses is the best time, imho. If you do it too young, you'll have more problems at 45 years or so when you become farsighted.

Jeff Livingston

Eric.
07-27-2016, 01:58 PM
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=428034
Check out #6 in the thread link above; the post of the year, by Barnabus McDoug...

Wow. DCP/OCD might be the first guy to get committed to the nuthouse over...Pool.

Reading that thread was like watching a cat chase the red dot of a laser pointer.


Eric

Bob 14:1
07-27-2016, 05:34 PM
Wow. DCP/OCD might be the first guy to get committed to the nuthouse over...Pool.

Reading that thread was like watching a cat chase the red dot of a laser pointer.


Eric

And I may be close behind him. I've just reached critical mass as far as his bullschitt.

I'm amazed he garners so much interest and comments from the members. Can no one see him for the lazy asswhole he really is?

Get ready for the resurrection of his custom cue thread. Apparently his pseudo "custom" Joss was not the panacea it was cracked to be. So as to not miss a moment of the action, he's once again changing out his cloth to some sort of light blue. Again, Simonis green, English green and T. Blue didn't cut it either. Oops. I forgot to mention a key point. He plays on a GC4. WTF cares.

TATE
07-27-2016, 09:35 PM
Regardless of the OP, for anybody reading, I had it done over 15 years ago. One of the best moves I've ever made. One eye stayed the same, the other weakened a little, but the result is I have 20/20 in one eye, about 20/40 in the other and don't need reading glasses at all at age 63. Not needing reading glasses is a rarity, however.

The finished result is just like wearing invisible contact lenses. It takes a few months for the eyes to completely heal.

It is basically a safe procedure as far as surgery goes. Threat of vision loss die to infection os considerably higher among contact lens wearers than lasik patients according to Wed MD.

GideonF
07-28-2016, 06:11 AM
I would advise against getting Lasik surgery. When it comes to lasik, it will improve your distance vision, but the result from having the surgery you will need glasses for up close aka readers. In the long run, nothing was achieved or accomplished. You will end up paying $4,000+ for surgery just to end up going one end of the spectrum to the other.

Consider purchasing a pair of billiard glasses. Our rimless billiard glasses are fashionable, and they're a lot easier on your wallet than Lasik surgery.

www.billiard-glasses.com
Main Website: www.williamcurranopticians.comhttps://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13411800_1071299079580047_1683512133620546852_o.jp g



Bill,

Why do you say he will need reading glasses? Do you know his prescription? I had LASIK 15 years ago and didn't need reading glasses.

My vision has since slipped back a bit, although I don't need glasses to drive and my optometrist says that at my age I would need readers if my distance vision were perfect.


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Icon of Sin
07-28-2016, 06:26 AM
My father needed it and got it done. He can see much better and a happy side effect was that it helped his pool game.

I think seeing better without the assistance of contacts or glasses would ultimately help ones pool game and be good for life in general.

Tennesseejoe
07-28-2016, 08:30 AM
And yes, I suppose somewhere in some of those threads somebody talked about this but I didn't want to have to read and read and read through umpteen threads.

r/DCP

I don't have the time to look up my extensive post on this, so here is a suggestion: get a specialist to examine your eyes to determine which procedure is best for your condition. Then get a second opinion from another specialist.

My experience with having lens implants was incredibly good. Six years and still 20/20. By the way, I'm 73.

SJDinPHX
07-28-2016, 09:43 AM
My recently deceased wife was once blind as a bat..She wore strong prescription glasses or contacts, from early childhood on!..She had lasik surgery about 20 yrs. ago,(when she was about 45) and the procedure was fairly new..We were naturally very apprehensive at first!..I don't know if they still do it the same way, but they did one eye for distance vision, and her weakest eye for up close. She came out with 20/20 for distance, and could read all but the smallest print. She was ecstatic with the results.

She enjoyed almost perfect vision the rest of her life..She only had to go in for one minor touch up, about seven yrs. after the initial surgery. I don't know if an older person (60/70) would have the same chance for such complete success, as someone middle aged?..I would tend to doubt it, but I would sure get a good, qualified opinion or three, if someone older is considering it..

PS..Its true, we only get ONE pair for life!..But I don't think I've ever heard of any complete disasters, as any rare surgical miscues always can be corrected, if needed!

erriep
07-28-2016, 12:10 PM
However, I don't recall seeing anyone post a response to this question, which in my mind is the main reason I am asking about Lasik here.

DID IT HELP YOUR POOL GAME? DID YOU GET BETTER? DID YOU SEE THE ANGLES BETTER? DID YOU BECOME BETTER AT CUT SHOTS?

r/DCP

Well, there is often a confusion between visual acuity , visual confort, and the performances.

Our vision is done by our brain.

When you do a Lasik, it's , most of time, because your affected by a certain minimal level of myopia (and +/- astigmatism) . Or because you wanna go back to work as soon as possible after the Lasik.

So , on such levels of myopia (and +/- astigmatism) , the vision is often better with contact lenses -or lasik- than with glasses. most of time much better.

So , when you wear only glasses, the Lasik provide a better vision -when done as expected- .

So, with Lasik your vision will be better. highly probable.

BUT

Lasik won't make you play better !!!

Lasik is a cornea modification method , an alternative to contact lenses , implant, glasses...

lasik will correct your ametropy. (<- a big part of ... but that's another -off topic- story)

Lasik can't correct your body position, your stance, your stroke , and even your aiming.

Lasik don't replace an efficient training session , or even table time.

Lasik can't correct a bad aiming, or a bad shoot choice, or the false ideas you have about pool.

Lasik won't add skills, nor experience , nor patience.

When you play bad, you play bad. When you shoot bad, you shoot bad.

To replace glasses , or contact lenses, by a lasik surgery , will simply provide you a different, often mostly better vision. But when you don't shoot straight, and/or you aim badly ...

PS: something a surgeon will rarelly tell you immediatly : when you're a high level player or sportman, lasik, like all vision modification, can negatively affect your performances, and it will probably affect negatively your performances on the very short term.Normal. because it's a change in the chain... you will see different, so you will have to adapt....