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mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 12:11 AM
Can you see the bank now ?
http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/mortuarymike/mirror%201_zpshkc1ep5l.jpg (http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/mortuarymike/media/mirror%201_zpshkc1ep5l.jpg.html)

rumerx
07-27-2016, 04:27 AM
Speed, spin will play a big part of a bank shot. What to do when the natural bank is blocked?

bral
07-27-2016, 04:37 AM
Neat shot, Mike.

Straightpool_99
07-27-2016, 05:01 AM
Neat idea. I like it.:)

chefjeff
07-27-2016, 06:15 AM
Speed, spin will play a big part of a bank shot. What to do when the natural bank is blocked?

It's the starting point, the natural angle. Of course each shot requires, perhaps, a slight deviation
from that starting point, but first a guy needs the starting point tp know how to adjust.

That mirror won't fit in my cue case!:cool:

Jeff Livingston

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 08:03 AM
Speed, spin will play a big part of a bank shot. What to do when the natural bank is blocked?

I am sorry the league was coming in to play which I didn't know.
I didn't have time to photograph the set of 3 mirror's .
The picture of the one mirror is one of 3 mirrors .

So I just post a picture of one mirror being used.

3 mirrors makes it possible to see up to 3 rail kick and bank shots .

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/mortuarymike/mirror_zps7b4c5uvs.jpg (http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/mortuarymike/media/mirror_zps7b4c5uvs.jpg.html)

fastone371
07-27-2016, 08:08 AM
Very cool, where did you get the mirrors from??

Bob Jewett
07-27-2016, 08:20 AM
At one time Bart Mahoney was selling a mirror that was useful both for bank shots and for looking straight back at your cue alignment. It had its own "legs" so that it could stand over the path of the ball. Also, for the bank shot it could be positioned at the rail groove which is the reflection point for the ball. It was only about 9 inches wide, IIRC.

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 08:33 AM
Very cool, where did you get the mirrors from??

A friend and I are now starting to produce these..

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 08:48 AM
At one time Bart Mahoney was selling a mirror that was useful both for bank shots and for looking straight back at your cue alignment. It had its own "legs" so that it could stand over the path of the ball. Also, for the bank shot it could be positioned at the rail groove which is the reflection point for the ball. It was only about 9 inches wide, IIRC.

The wide mirrors makes it to where you can practice a wider verity of bank kicks shots where you don't have to position the balls back in the exact same spot everytime.

The mirror's have to be placed flush or slightly past the edge of the rail so the mirror and the image in the reflection is at the right angles also had to be elevated so the ball doesn't hit the mirror..

Allen Brown
07-27-2016, 08:54 AM
The mirrors are messing me up. I would rather just see the natural angle through the table with no mirrors.

chefjeff
07-27-2016, 08:59 AM
The mirrors are messing me up. I would rather just see the natural angle through the table with no mirrors.

So, you can't see yourself using it?:thumbup:

Jeff Livingston

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 09:28 AM
I think there's a such thing as mirrors that install under your rails for this purpose.

I haven't tried the mirrors under the rail , but the image would be extremely narrow field of view and if you are more of a up rite shooter the mirror will not show the reflection of the pocket.
That's just a guess after working with this these mirrors.

This mirror pivots for the persons stance regardless if you are down on the ball like SVB or a stand up shooter like Minnesota Fats .

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 09:37 AM
I think there's a such thing as mirrors that install under your rails for this purpose.

Not out to be negative but in order to get the angle needed the mirror has to be flush with the rail .
I don't see how that would be possible and still practice hitting the rail where the mirror is under the rail .

Also some bank kick shots are drilled hard into the rail that is possible to be done with these mirrors .

pab
07-27-2016, 10:03 AM
When do you anticipate they will be available for sale? Have you set pricing yet?

dvs
07-27-2016, 10:11 AM
I had read about the mirror alignment and got a small (8" X 6") piece of stainless and use a large paper clip (the black ones with the 2 silver handles; not sure what you call them but they are only about 2" long and 3/4" wide; they are flat and stand on the rail holding the stainless lengthwise. Not 100 percent but a great practice tool to help you see the right spot.

The other method I like is to just imagine the target pocket about 3 1/2 feet past the rail and aim for the imaginary (ghost) pocket.

Of course there's many variations of finding the spot to hit.

Sometimes, I am lucky and just see it in my mind's eye.

Great idea; I like your setup.

Now, someone will ask if it's legal in league or match play.

Regards
Dave

JAMSGOLF
07-27-2016, 10:17 AM
So, you can't see yourself using it?:thumbup:

Jeff Livingston

Clever! LOL

chefjeff
07-27-2016, 10:43 AM
Nurse: Doctor, there's a blind man in the waiting room.

Dr.: Tell him he can't see me now.


Jeff Livingston

pocket
07-27-2016, 12:44 PM
I'd end up miscuing and smashing the damned thing ending up with another 7 years of being screwed at the table :mad::mad::mad:

RussPrince
07-27-2016, 01:26 PM
A friend and I are now starting to produce these..

DING DING DING!!! Ahh yeah I should have figured. This post is a commercial. Doesn't that violate forum rules somehow?

Bob Jewett
07-27-2016, 01:32 PM
I think there's a such thing as mirrors that install under your rails for this purpose.

I saw them at a BCA trade show.

They are in the wrong place and at least for the rails on that table they are not far enough under the rail to avoid being hit sometimes.

ceebee
07-27-2016, 01:38 PM
Great IDEA... one thing I would like to know & Bob Jewett brought up that point.... The center of the object ball does not go back to that point in the rail, where the mirror reflection plane is. Is the shot pictured in your mirror correct or is there a modification required.

I had plans to make myself one of these, but business doesn't allow me to do much else.

sixpack
07-27-2016, 02:23 PM
A friend and I are now starting to produce these..

I think it's a good idea. Although I've noticed all mirrors these days come pre-loaded with a picture of an old dude. Maybe you can start with a different picture! :)

ceebee
07-27-2016, 02:36 PM
I am sorry the league was coming in to play which I didn't know.
I didn't have time to photograph the set of 3 mirror's .
The picture of the one mirror is one of 3 mirrors .

So I just post a picture of one mirror being used.

3 mirrors makes it possible to see up to 3 rail kick and bank shots .

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/mortuarymike/mirror_zps7b4c5uvs.jpg (http://s1110.photobucket.com/user/mortuarymike/media/mirror_zps7b4c5uvs.jpg.html)

Are you going to shoot that egg, in picture 6 & hit the 14 ball, 3 rails into the corner. Please take a video of this shot.

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 03:51 PM
Great IDEA... one thing I would like to know & Bob Jewett brought up that point.... The center of the object ball does not go back to that point in the rail, where the mirror reflection plane is. Is the shot pictured in your mirror correct or is there a modification required.

I had plans to make myself one of these, but business doesn't allow me to do much else.

We were under the gun, the league was coming in and the mirror didn't get properly lined up for the pictures.
.

mortuarymike-nv
07-27-2016, 04:38 PM
2nd hand store sales mirrors dirt cheap ,
I started off with a mirror off a semi truck and had people hold the mirror on the rail for me .

caff3in3
07-27-2016, 04:54 PM
Speed, spin will play a big part of a bank shot. What to do when the natural bank is blocked?
Pretty sure that is a different thread ;)

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