View Full Version : Advice you never thought would help

08-12-2017, 10:09 AM
We all take time away from pool now and then. Our reasons are different but everyone goes through stages where we walk away. A few years ago I returned after a hiatus and had trouble being consistent in my play. I asked some instructors for advice and got lots of great replies.

Randy Goettlicher said I needed to have a pause in my backswing. It made no sense to me at all. I paused at the cueball, not at the back of my stroke. It just seemed to be an interruption to me but knowing Randy does this for a living, I should probably listen.

It really helped.

Has anyone else been given advice they didn't think would help that turned out to be great?

08-12-2017, 05:01 PM
Are you the Canadian Ghosst from old RSB days? If so, hello and welcome back!

The pause really helped me too (Thanks Scott Lee). But I wasn't surprised- however the video really helped me see how I was rushing the transition. I had been advised to pause before but it never sunk in until I saw the video.

08-13-2017, 06:44 AM
Yes, one and the same. Living in Canada again too, although further west now.

I also use video to see where I'm not doing something right.

08-13-2017, 11:56 AM
I have thought about taking some video recently. The video, she don't lie. :)

I have had some experience with Randy G. and really enjoyed the experience. He actually had more than one suggestion for me. One was pause at the cue ball before coming with it, and two was my bridge was way too long. Once I started pausing before coming forward with the stroke, and shorted that bridge up just a bit, my consistency got much better. I still have the old long bridge come back from time to time, as habits over the years take a while to break. It's funny, many times it is the very simplist of things, things you would never think of, that throws you off, or keeps you from being consistent.

This game is a never ending battle. Once you get one thing solved, another pops up, or at least it's been for me.

08-13-2017, 02:04 PM
When I moved from the midwest to California I had trouble adjusting to the big tables. Everything in the midwest was on bar tables as far as action and tournaments were concerned at that time. So I hadn't played much on a big table.

Someone told me to "Aim a little bit to the right."

I said thank you and internally rolled my eyes. That couldn't help. Could it?

One day I was very frustrated I tried it. And it worked great! lol. I don't like it as a long term fix because I want to aim at the pockets but here's why it worked:

For an instinct player like me, when I start to get going I like to just look at the ball and feel the shot and shoot. On a bar table I start getting in the zone and just start making balls and getting position. On the big table, I was fine until I started to get going...then I'd shoot a shot into the rail. Eventually I realized that I would shoot it to where the pocket would be on a bar table! Aiming a 'little bit right' was the compensation to get it right in the hole.

Here's an example: If you shoot a ball that is a diamond out from the side pocket and cut it down to the right hand corner pocket. If you're instinctively shooting like the shot is on a bar table you'll end up hitting the rail about 1 diamond short of the pocket. Which corresponds to the angle you would need to make that shot on a barbox from the same relative position on the table...Because that's where the pocket would be! If you shoot a 'little bit right' you'll shoot it in the hole. It doesn't matter whether you are cutting it or back cutting it.

However, I think this advice is incomplete. You need to shoot a little to the right for corner pockets on the right side of the table and a little to the left for corner pockets on the left side of the table. Relative to the direction you are shooting from.

If you watch a bar table specialist who isn't as good on the big table - you'll see them miss that shot like that all day long. Usually when they start to get into a rhythm.

08-13-2017, 06:45 PM
Yes, one and the same. Living in Canada again too, although further west now.

I also use video to see where I'm not doing something right.

Listen, man...:smile::wink::cool:

Farther is for distances that are physical.

Further is not

08-13-2017, 06:53 PM
Take breaks away from pool!

one stroke
08-13-2017, 07:12 PM
I've come to the conclusion that the pause does not have to be on the back stoke but there needs to be one so if your practice stroking u have to pause at least on the cue ball that's my preference simply because that's how I'm wired from all the other sports I played where there is simply no pause hence onestroke