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glasscitypool
10-04-2017, 09:22 AM
So I make a deal with a guy for a beautiful custom cue for 3k and then he asked me if I had an AZ screen name. I didn't think anything of it so I gave him my name and he comes back with I can't sell you the cue because you don't have any feedback on azb. Is this really a thing? Do people only want to do business with ranked people on a forum website? I couldn't believe that I got shot down for wanting to spend 3k on a cue!!

tenfttall
10-04-2017, 09:23 AM
Well, I'll sell to ya, Glasscitypool! Your money is good with me!


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Coop1701
10-04-2017, 09:51 AM
Well, I'll sell to ya, Glasscitypool! Your money is good with me!


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I agree.. I have cues with your name written all over it. :)

That's crazy they would do that

HUKIT
10-04-2017, 09:51 AM
I could see a buyer wanting to purchase from a reputable seller but the opposite makes no sense. I run a local business and as long as the background check clears, the cash is green, and the credit card gets approved I donít care what reputation he has been online!

calibration
10-04-2017, 09:57 AM
Suggest an escrow option

trentfromtoledo
10-04-2017, 10:20 AM
well ya did also say you wanted to buy the Cyclop TV balls and you were local. I contacted you back an you never responded? Just sayin....

:)

Trent

poolguy4u
10-04-2017, 10:35 AM
:boring2:



You might of agreed to a price but never did the deal.

If you were paying with cash, that would be great.


If you don't have any feedback anywhere, I wouldn't want to do a deal either unless it was cash.



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jimmyco
10-04-2017, 11:15 AM
It happens.

I missed out on a Runde, after deal was confirmed and I was given the paypal addy.

Some strange cats out there. Look at it like a blessing. If they flake out that easy, you're better off without 'em.

glasscitypool
10-04-2017, 11:17 AM
Trent I've texted you 3 times now to no response! I'll just wait till the derby and buy them for $125 now. Also the deal for the cue was to send half the money PP F&F ($1500) and half as a purchase and I pay the fee on top. Was trying to get away with using my paypal credit for half of it and slow pay for the 6 months interest free lol I have over 2k in feedback on my business paypal and some how he thinks I could scam not only him but Paypal for the $1500 purchase side.

To everyone who has a cue for sale what do you got? I like Josey, Carmeli, Gilbert and Barnhart. I'm not really in the market but if I fall in love with a cue I will always make room for it.

cuesblues
10-04-2017, 11:21 AM
So I make a deal with a guy for a beautiful custom cue for 3k and then he asked me if I had an AZ screen name. I didn't think anything of it so I gave him my name and he comes back with I can't sell you the cue because you don't have any feedback on azb. Is this really a thing? Do people only want to do business with ranked people on a forum website? I couldn't believe that I got shot down for wanting to spend 3k on a cue!!

You could buy a cue from me with an iou

alphadog
10-04-2017, 11:21 AM
Fake news????

glasscitypool
10-04-2017, 11:47 AM
You could buy a cue from me with an iou

I'll take one of each then and your sig please :)

It's not fake news, I wish it was though. One side of me said thank god this guy backed out because I really don't need another cue. But the other side of me feels like I got my puppy stolen!

I already have two high end AC's, a gilbert, a jim peirce and a Mike Stacey. So I was trying to add this to the closet but nope not today lol

trentfromtoledo
10-04-2017, 11:49 AM
Trent I've texted you 3 times now to no response! I'll just wait till the derby and buy them for $125 now. Also the deal for the cue was to send half the money PP F&F ($1500) and half as a purchase and I pay the fee on top. Was trying to get away with using my paypal credit for half of it and slow pay for the 6 months interest free lol I have over 2k in feedback on my business paypal and some how he thinks I could scam not only him but Paypal for the $1500 purchase side.

To everyone who has a cue for sale what do you got? I like Josey, Carmeli, Gilbert and Barnhart. I'm not really in the market but if I fall in love with a cue I will always make room for it.

(419)491-7476 is a LAND LINE....No texts there.

glasscitypool
10-04-2017, 11:54 AM
(419)491-7476 is a LAND LINE....No texts there.

What's a landline? lol just kidding. If you want to sell a set for the $125 I'm at racktime every Monday 9-10:30 and Thursday 7:30-10 for leagues. You did a nice Job on the tables over there by the way, I was shocked Jason finally did them.

ideologist
10-04-2017, 11:56 AM
So I make a deal with a guy for a beautiful custom cue for 3k and then he asked me if I had an AZ screen name. I didn't think anything of it so I gave him my name and he comes back with I can't sell you the cue because you don't have any feedback on azb. Is this really a thing? Do people only want to do business with ranked people on a forum website? I couldn't believe that I got shot down for wanting to spend 3k on a cue!!

PM me, I'll help you get a nice cue just like you want, lots of dealers are salivating at your post

trentfromtoledo
10-04-2017, 12:15 PM
What's a landline? lol just kidding. If you want to sell a set for the $125 I'm at racktime every Monday 9-10:30 and Thursday 7:30-10 for leagues. You did a nice Job on the tables over there by the way, I was shocked Jason finally did them.


Yeah, its old school for sure! Its actually not a landline, but, the modern version of one, its a VOIP number.

I will pass, I pay more than that directly from Diamond.

THANK'S A TON! I was so happy he asked me to do most of them, will be doing the 9's next and will be maintaining them all. I worked very hard to learn how to stretch the Simonis properly!


Trent from Toledo

Bavafongoul
10-06-2017, 10:19 AM
Something sounds odd to this story.......if a buyer sends the seller $3k for the cue, a seller usually
doesn't care about not having any buyer feedback on Az or elsewhere. As long as a seller receives payment
in full prior to shipping the cue, I can't imagine a seller not wanting to do business with a buyer as long as
they are paid in full before shipping the cue. One person's cash buys the same amount of goods as any other's
person's cash.....all things being equal of course. I suspect there's more to this than mentioned and of course,
buyers need to be careful about sellers since a cue could be described inaccurately or the cue never even arrives.

Kickin' Chicken
10-06-2017, 05:01 PM
it is poss for a buyer to be a ball breaker all the way up to being an all-out scammer even if he funds a purchase in full prior to shipping. So a seller is still taking a somewhat of a risk when selling to a buyer unknown to him.

With that said, you can always ask for references or take other things into consideration like, for instance, in the case of the op he's been a member of az for 11 years and that should provide a good measure of comfort.

Plus, few scammers assume the role of a buyer - a much higher % are acting as sellers.

best,
brian kc

runscott
10-06-2017, 06:06 PM
So I make a deal with a guy for a beautiful custom cue for 3k and then he asked me if I had an AZ screen name. I didn't think anything of it so I gave him my name and he comes back with I can't sell you the cue because you don't have any feedback on azb. Is this really a thing? Do people only want to do business with ranked people on a forum website? I couldn't believe that I got shot down for wanting to spend 3k on a cue!!

I almost never look at a seller's or buyer's itrader feedback until it's time to leave itrader feedback. But I do look at join date and post-count when I am thinking about buying. Selling, I don't care.

More importantly, if you haven't been the victim of an AZ roasting you probably aren't interesting enough to drink a beer with, much less to sell a cue to.

Badbeat13
10-07-2017, 05:22 AM
The seller probably just wanted to be paid in full before shipping
the cue out. That's the only thing that would make any sense to
me. No seller is going to back out of a 3K deal on a cue, unless
he has another buyer or is having seller's remorse on a cue. If
you pay 1st, then he'll ship it, that's probably the bottom line here.

I was on the other side of this last week. I have 35 positive iTraders
and no negative ones. I agreed to buy a cue off of someone who
didn't have any iTraders on here. He insisted that I pay 1st. I said
no way, but gave him a few options. Send the cue and then I pay,
send the cue COD, or use an escarole service. The seller turned
down all 3 options, so there was no way I was going to pursue that
deal any longer. Just too much risk with all the scammers and crooks
out there.

cuesblues
10-07-2017, 05:47 AM
No seller is going to back out of a 3K deal on a cue, unless



unless the deal involved a trade, not a 100% cash deal, which is the only thing that makes sense.
If we had to rely on only known AZ members to buy $3000 cues we would be dead. New buyers in the secondary market is what we need, and is really what the $3000 cue
market is all about, especially on AZ Billiards.
It's more common for me to sell an expensive cue to a newbie than an old timer.

glasscitypool
10-08-2017, 06:46 PM
So as I stated before I wasn't really in the market for another cue but fell in love with this one so I made a deal. I wanted to send him $1500 friends and family and $1500+fees as a purchase, the reason for the $1500 as purchase was just so I could us my PP credit and slow pay for 6 months interest free. I was and still am willing to send it before he ships it, I figure I'm taking the most risk on him not even sending the cue out and pocketing my $1500. I have done a couple deals on here and facebook open billiards market, so now I will go back in and ask these az'ers I did deals with to leave me feedback. I can understand his slight risk on me saying something is wrong with my purchase but I have dealt with PP 100's of times as I own a business that does 300k+ a year on ebay. There would be a very slim chance I could say something was wrong with the purchase and keep the cue and get the $1500 back ( I'm talking like less then a 1% chance).

2andOUT
10-09-2017, 08:22 PM
Trent I've texted you 3 times now to no response! I'll just wait till the derby and buy them for $125 now. Also the deal for the cue was to send half the money PP F&F ($1500) and half as a purchase and I pay the fee on top. Was trying to get away with using my paypal credit for half of it and slow pay for the 6 months interest free lol I have over 2k in feedback on my business paypal and some how he thinks I could scam not only him but Paypal for the $1500 purchase side.

To everyone who has a cue for sale what do you got? I like Josey, Carmeli, Gilbert and Barnhart. I'm not really in the market but if I fall in love with a cue I will always make room for it.

so let me get this straight ? the guy with only 1 itrader won't sell to someone with no itrader ????? makes absoutely no sense.

2andOUT
10-09-2017, 08:25 PM
The seller probably just wanted to be paid in full before shipping
the cue out. That's the only thing that would make any sense to
me. No seller is going to back out of a 3K deal on a cue, unless
he has another buyer or is having seller's remorse on a cue. If
you pay 1st, then he'll ship it, that's probably the bottom line here.

I was on the other side of this last week. I have 35 positive iTraders
and no negative ones. I agreed to buy a cue off of someone who
didn't have any iTraders on here. He insisted that I pay 1st. I said
no way, but gave him a few options. Send the cue and then I pay,
send the cue COD, or use an escarole service. The seller turned
down all 3 options, so there was no way I was going to pursue that
deal any longer. Just too much risk with all the scammers and crooks
out there.


since when have you ever received goods first without paying for them.f(thats usually called theft.) that's just bad business for any seller. nice to know how you deal.

justinb386
10-10-2017, 02:13 AM
since when have you ever received goods first without paying for them.f(thats usually called theft.) that's just bad business for any seller. nice to know how you deal.

He was saying that since the seller had 0 itrader feedbacks (and he has 35, with 0 negatives), that he would like the seller to ship the item 1st, and then he would paypal the money (I assume) after he received the item in the mail.

He also gave the seller (with 0 itrader) the option of shipping the item via COD (cash on delivery), but with that option, the shipper has to pay an extra COD fee, and then after the receiver received the item, the shipper has to wait for the Money order to be mailed to them.

It takes a lot of trust to deal with anyone online, that you do not know. Most people are good I think, but you never know who the good ones are. I think the itrader feedback system is a good system, to build up trust.

Back when I had a very low itrader feedback, and I wanted to do a trade, I always had to ship my item to the other trader (who had a good feedback on here) 1st, and then after they received the item, and was happy, then they shipped the trade that I wanted out to me. I had to do that many times over the years, if I really wanted to do a trade on this forum.

glasscitypool
10-10-2017, 11:04 AM
so let me get this straight ? the guy with only 1 itrader won't sell to someone with no itrader ????? makes absoutely no sense.

No I didn't blast the guy that did this to me, I wanted opinions on if I was the nutty one or him. As far as trent (the guy I think you are referring to that has 1 feedback) he was selling some balls locally in my town on here and I tried to make a deal that he couldn't meet to.

The issue I had was just weird, the cue I wanted was for sale on Ebay and if I would have just bought it on there the seller would have no choice but to sell to me as a purchase. So we made a deal off Ebay and he was saving all the Ebay fees and still backed out on me. I know the market right now is soft for the higher end cues, so me trying to spend 3k on one most sellers would have drove it to me for that lol

glasscitypool
10-22-2017, 08:42 PM
trent message me your best price on those balls please

Billiardbills
10-23-2017, 10:42 AM
Was there an issue or something in the terms of the deal that brought this upon? I just feel there is something missing here...

I have had to ship to a few guys that I specifically did not want to do business with before as they bought it off my website and I would double and triple check things to make sure I dotted my I's & crossed my T's...

I have about 40 cues for sale on my website if you would like to take a look, I will make you a nice deal.