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poolscholar
10-22-2017, 10:58 AM
Had them on for the first couple games of his match, but then had to remove them. I thought they were allowed in previous years.

Does SVB have to keep hearing aid on?

Fleece3
10-22-2017, 11:29 AM
That's stupid! You should be allowed ear plugs if you want to use them!!

Ak Guy
10-22-2017, 02:30 PM
He now has an alibi for loosing, the loss of ear plugs sharked him. What were they thinking. I say let him wear them with the agreement some one can duct tape his mouth shut when he starts his ranting poor sportsmanship like behavior.

Other then that I would love to see him win the Open for a 6th time and then retire. I will always think of him as the greatest 9 Ball player.

When I get really bored I attend a small 9 Ball tournament at one of the local dives. I mean this place has it all, lousy poorly kept bar box tables, lots of foul language, most smoke and half are drunk.

Now they have added Karaoke to their list of events. They sing and stumble around the table and the music is very loud and the singing is horrible! Last week I played and wore ear plugs and the darn lousy Karaoke was still to loud.

Any way, good luck to you Earl. I hope you and Shane play it off in the end and you humble him in a hill hill match.

Kid Dynomite
10-22-2017, 03:03 PM
Based on this he was "allowed" to have ear plugs! It is in the rules and the ref got it wrong. Simple mistake!

Read for yourselves

http://www.usopen9ballchampionships.com/players.php

JoseV
10-22-2017, 03:15 PM
i think the issue was they were sticking too far out of his ears, but during the match it was brought up about Earl being allowed to wear them, but from what i over heard there are up dated rules somewhere, that Ken Shuman (however you spell it) showed saying they were not allowed. Then after the match the TD was talking about it saying at one point they were allowed but are no longer are.

Now this is stuff i over heard i had great seats for this match i was sitting two seat two left of John Schmidt and Earl still ended up winning, he did take a jab by saying they were protecting their boy, (SVB) i busted out laughing when he said that. Another thing that i got a chuckle from earl was he is wearing 2 inch platform shoes during that match.

Kid Dynomite
10-22-2017, 03:23 PM
i think the issue was they were sticking too far out of his ears, but during the match it was brought up about Earl being allowed to wear them, but from what i over heard there are up dated rules somewhere, that Ken Shuman (however you spell it) showed saying they were not allowed. Then after the match the TD was talking about it saying at one point they were allowed but are no longer are.

Now this is stuff i over heard i had great seats for this match i was sitting two seat two left of John Schmidt and Earl still ended up winning, he did take a jab by saying they were protecting their boy, (SVB) i busted out laughing when he said that. Another thing that i got a chuckle from earl was he is wearing 2 inch platform shoes during that match.

I believe you.

Just don't want Earl getting a bum rap for this. He could have read what I posted and decided to wear them to help him mentally from being distracted.

most of the 500 people that viewed this post were unaware that the rule reads "OK" and he was following the posted rules. The last minute change is on the "US Open" not Earl the knucklehead that won't follow the rules.

I hope one and all understand the reason I posted that.

Sincerely,
KD

JoseV
10-22-2017, 03:31 PM
I believe you.

Just don't want Earl getting a bum rap for this. He could have read what I posted and decided to wear them to help him mentally from being distracted.

most of the 500 people that viewed this post were unaware that the rule reads "OK" and he was following the posted rules. The last minute change is on the "US Open" not Earl the knucklehead that won't follow the rules.

I hope one and all understand the reason I posted that.

Sincerely,
KD

I don't think he will get a bum rap nor should he, i'm interested to know if it was mentioned last night at the players meeting, he seemed like he adjusted fine without them but did complain saying he could hear people snapping their gum, to be fair i heard it too.

Kid Dynomite
10-22-2017, 03:35 PM
I don't think he will get a bum rap nor should he, i'm interested to know if it was mentioned last night at the players meeting, he seemed like he adjusted fine without them but did complain saying he could hear people snapping their gum, to be fair i heard it too.

Half the people do not show for those things. Some were in the 14.1 or some in the pre-tournament. a lot of players never go to the players meeting. some don't arrive until Monday, if you know what I mean?

KD

dnschmidt
10-22-2017, 05:13 PM
Earl does not need earplugs to keep EXTERNAL voices from screwing with his game. Earl needs INTERNAL earplugs to keep the space aliens in his head from screwing with his game.

terryhanna
10-22-2017, 05:20 PM
Maybe Earl had trouble getting the ear plugs out with all that tape on his hand :eek:

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Dave714
10-22-2017, 05:54 PM
What about a shot that requires a "closed bridge". LOL

jasonlaus
10-22-2017, 07:06 PM
What about a shot that requires a "closed bridge". LOL

Blasphemy!!!!!!

decent dennis
10-22-2017, 07:23 PM
Maybe Earl had trouble getting the ear plugs out with all that tape on his hand :eek:

473853

Looks like Chucky from Son of Anarchy:eek:

mrknight411
10-22-2017, 07:29 PM
Earl thrives on negativity, so maybe being forced to remove the ear plugs was one of the reasons he won his match. At one time, he even complained that he can hear the crowd breath. lol

Earl is playing good pool, but he also misses some simple shots. He will need to remove those faults, if he plans on beating players like Shaw or Ko Pin Yi.

JoseV
10-22-2017, 08:29 PM
Earl thrives on negativity, so maybe being forced to remove the ear plugs was one of the reasons he won his match. At one time, he even complained that he can hear the crowd breath. lol

Earl is playing good pool, but he also misses some simple shots. He will need to remove those faults, if he plans on beating players like Shaw or Ko Pin Yi.


I cracked up when he said i can hear people breathing !!!!!

jay helfert
10-22-2017, 08:49 PM
Maybe Earl had trouble getting the ear plugs out with all that tape on his hand :eek:

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That's beyond strange, that's scary. What kind of mind comes up with stuff like this.

kkdanamatt
10-22-2017, 11:27 PM
Based on this he was "allowed" to have ear plugs! It is in the rules and the ref got it wrong. Simple mistake!

Read for yourselves

http://www.usopen9ballchampionships.com/players.php

Let's set the record straight.
Here are the official rules:
V. Dress Code
Dress-type shirt (with or without a collar) or a dress-type sweater
Dress slacks; no sweat pants, warm-up pants, jogging pants, cargo pants, or jeans
Dark shoes or dark-colored tennis or walking-type shoes; no white or light colored soles; no sandals, slippers or open-toed shoes
No headphones, earphones, earplugs, iPod, Bluetooth devices, hats, caps, or headgear Hearing aids are permitted.
Note: Any dress code exception to the above requires a medical doctor’s note and must be approved by the Tournament Director prior to the Tournament.

I asked Earl to remove his earplugs and he did.

The rules you are quoting are outdated from several years ago copied from the US Open 9-Ball Facebook page, which hasn't been properly updated. The official rules were printed and handed out to every player at the players' meeting and in their information packet. Furthermore, this rule has been in effect for at least the last three years, ever since the proliferation of Bluetooth earpieces. They are not allowed because we have a shot clock and the players have to be able to hear when I give them a time extension, or a 10-second warning, or a foul.

Tommy-D
10-23-2017, 12:52 AM
I can see not allowing ear BUDS if connected to a music source or whatever,but can't see what harm the simple foam ear PLUGS can possibly cause. Tommy D.

Dan_B
10-23-2017, 05:57 AM
There's a major distinction between Bluetooth and such things vs. earplugs.
Like in golf, are there refs here holding up "quiet please" signs when the shooter
address's and makes the shot? I didn't know till today that all tables are ref'd and under clock.
The reasoning to protect the shooter from not hearing commands from the ref. is a lazy
answer/reason. It is not in the better, interest and condition(s) to the best shot to be made,
...in my opinion.

..unless part of the challenge is to defeat - - - manage the 6th sense, crowd behavior.

captainjko
10-23-2017, 06:41 AM
Let's set the record straight.
Here are the official rules:
V. Dress Code
Dress-type shirt (with or without a collar) or a dress-type sweater
Dress slacks; no sweat pants, warm-up pants, jogging pants, cargo pants, or jeans
Dark shoes or dark-colored tennis or walking-type shoes; no white or light colored soles; no sandals, slippers or open-toed shoes
No headphones, earphones, earplugs, iPod, Bluetooth devices, hats, caps, or headgear Hearing aids are permitted.
Note: Any dress code exception to the above requires a medical doctor’s note and must be approved by the Tournament Director prior to the Tournament.

I asked Earl to remove his earplugs and he did.

The rules you are quoting are outdated from several years ago copied from the US Open 9-Ball Facebook page, which hasn't been properly updated. The official rules were printed and handed out to every player at the players' meeting and in their information packet. Furthermore, this rule has been in effect for at least the last three years, ever since the proliferation of Bluetooth earpieces. They are not allowed because we have a shot clock and the players have to be able to hear when I give them a time extension, or a 10-second warning, or a foul.
Anyone besides Earl.... Yes.... Most of the time, Earl shoots the next shot in under 15 seconds.... lol But I do see your point... I would love to see a match with Earl and whoever on a 15 second shot clock....

marek
10-23-2017, 07:01 AM
Anyone besides Earl.... Yes.... Most of the time, Earl shoots the next shot in under 15 seconds.... lol But I do see your point... I would love to see a match with Earl and whoever on a 15 second shot clock....

About one year and a half ago there was an exhibition match between Tony Drago and Joshua Filler with 15sec shot clock. Joshua won 6:4. If Joshua played Earl in such match (15sec shot clock) my money would probably be on Joshua, Joshua has a firepower Earl had 15-20 years ago..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i88IKS-A78E

poolscholar
10-23-2017, 08:03 AM
Let's set the record straight.
Here are the official rules:
V. Dress Code
Dress-type shirt (with or without a collar) or a dress-type sweater
Dress slacks; no sweat pants, warm-up pants, jogging pants, cargo pants, or jeans
Dark shoes or dark-colored tennis or walking-type shoes; no white or light colored soles; no sandals, slippers or open-toed shoes
No headphones, earphones, earplugs, iPod, Bluetooth devices, hats, caps, or headgear Hearing aids are permitted.
Note: Any dress code exception to the above requires a medical doctor’s note and must be approved by the Tournament Director prior to the Tournament.

I asked Earl to remove his earplugs and he did.

The rules you are quoting are outdated from several years ago copied from the US Open 9-Ball Facebook page, which hasn't been properly updated. The official rules were printed and handed out to every player at the players' meeting and in their information packet. Furthermore, this rule has been in effect for at least the last three years, ever since the proliferation of Bluetooth earpieces. They are not allowed because we have a shot clock and the players have to be able to hear when I give them a time extension, or a 10-second warning, or a foul.

So do hearing aids need to be on if they play in the arena with shot clock?

crabbcatjohn
10-23-2017, 08:17 AM
Maybe Earl had trouble getting the ear plugs out with all that tape on his hand :eek:

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https://youtu.be/oxCd0v3MdUw

alstl
10-23-2017, 09:29 AM
i think the issue was they were sticking too far out of his ears, but during the match it was brought up about Earl being allowed to wear them, but from what i over heard there are up dated rules somewhere, that Ken Shuman (however you spell it) showed saying they were not allowed. Then after the match the TD was talking about it saying at one point they were allowed but are no longer are.

Now this is stuff i over heard i had great seats for this match i was sitting two seat two left of John Schmidt and Earl still ended up winning, he did take a jab by saying they were protecting their boy, (SVB) i busted out laughing when he said that. Another thing that i got a chuckle from earl was he is wearing 2 inch platform shoes during that match.

Who changed the rules and why? How does it benefit the game to ban earplugs?

I'd much rather see them ban jump cues.

JoseV
10-23-2017, 09:31 AM
Who changed the rules and why? How does it benefit the game to ban earplugs?

I'd much rather see them ban jump cues.

Apparently the no ear plugs have been in effect for about three years.

fastone371
10-23-2017, 09:38 AM
He now has an alibi for loosing, the loss of ear plugs sharked him. What were they thinking. I say let him wear them with the agreement some one can duct tape his mouth shut when he starts his ranting poor sportsmanship like behavior.

Other then that I would love to see him win the Open for a 6th time and then retire. I will always think of him as the greatest 9 Ball player.

When I get really bored I attend a small 9 Ball tournament at one of the local dives. I mean this place has it all, lousy poorly kept bar box tables, lots of foul language, most smoke and half are drunk.

Now they have added Karaoke to their list of events. They sing and stumble around the table and the music is very loud and the singing is horrible! Last week I played and wore ear plugs and the darn lousy Karaoke was still to loud.

Any way, good luck to you Earl. I hope you and Shane play it off in the end and you humble him in a hill hill match.

You must be playing the same 9 ball tournament as me, I will look for you next time.:D

fastone371
10-23-2017, 09:43 AM
Looks like Chucky from Son of Anarchy:eek:

FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!:rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1: :rotflmao1::rotflmao1:

The guy that was always pulling his pud, Clay told him if caught him with his hands in his pants again he would cut his hands off.

Bamacues
10-23-2017, 10:06 AM
Earl could simply insert hearing aids turned off. Custom hearing aids would fit better and be more comfortable, also. Then he would be within the rules.

alstl
10-23-2017, 11:33 AM
Apparently the no ear plugs have been in effect for about three years.

Okay, and how does that rule change benefit the game? Were pool players being run over by 18 wheelers in the pool hall because they couldn't hear the truck due to ear plugs?

Banning jump cues would fix a problem with the game. Instead they chose to fix the earplug problem.

fastone371
10-23-2017, 11:44 AM
About one year and a half ago there was an exhibition match between Tony Drago and Joshua Filler with 15sec shot clock. Joshua won 6:4. If Joshua played Earl in such match (15sec shot clock) my money would probably be on Joshua, Joshua has a firepower Earl had 15-20 years ago..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i88IKS-A78E

I watched this match, I am definitely in favor of shot clocks but 15 seconds is way too short. 45 seconds, maybe even 30 seconds would probably be OK. At 15 seconds they barely have time to look at the shot after the one they are shooting, these guys were trotting around the table at times. They just gotta do something about the minute to minute and a half or longer between shots.

Ched
10-23-2017, 12:06 PM
I watched this match, I am definitely in favor of shot clocks but 15 seconds is way too short. 45 seconds, maybe even 30 seconds would probably be OK. At 15 seconds they barely have time to look at the shot after the one they are shooting, these guys were trotting around the table at times. They just gotta do something about the minute to minute and a half or longer between shots.

Totally agree. Takes me that long to get from one end of the table to the other - but I'm not on that level either.

BRussell
10-25-2017, 11:21 AM
Let's set the record straight.
Here are the official rules:
V. Dress Code
Dress-type shirt (with or without a collar) or a dress-type sweater
Dress slacks; no sweat pants, warm-up pants, jogging pants, cargo pants, or jeans
Dark shoes or dark-colored tennis or walking-type shoes; no white or light colored soles; no sandals, slippers or open-toed shoes
No headphones, earphones, earplugs, iPod, Bluetooth devices, hats, caps, or headgear Hearing aids are permitted.
Note: Any dress code exception to the above requires a medical doctor’s note and must be approved by the Tournament Director prior to the Tournament.

I asked Earl to remove his earplugs and he did.

The rules you are quoting are outdated from several years ago copied from the US Open 9-Ball Facebook page, which hasn't been properly updated. The official rules were printed and handed out to every player at the players' meeting and in their information packet. Furthermore, this rule has been in effect for at least the last three years, ever since the proliferation of Bluetooth earpieces. They are not allowed because we have a shot clock and the players have to be able to hear when I give them a time extension, or a 10-second warning, or a foul.

A couple of points:

1. That's not from the Facebook page, it's from the US Open web page. Maybe the handout was different, but what's on the official US Open web page under Rules is official, whether you want it to be or not.

To others in the thread:
2. I think it's reasonable to tell someone not to wear ear plugs. You've got to be able to respond to questions, hear announcements ("that's two fouls"), hear calls for a time out to get a ref, etc. That rule is present in league and local tournament play, and as far as I know is usually the rule in pro tournaments.

3. It's got nothing to do with Shane's hearing loss or hearing aids, and to say that a "no ear plug" rule means that Shane has to wear a hearing aid is ridiculous. The rules govern use of equipment - you can or cannot use x, y, z equipment. If extra long cues are banned, that doesn't mean tall people have to play on their knees.

Personally, I think Earl's hand crutches are unauthorized use of equipment. The rule generally is that you can use authorized equipment, i.e., cues fitting a certain spec, and you cannot use any other equipment when you play.

Johnny Rosato
10-25-2017, 11:31 AM
Is there anything in the rules about players loading up on beer, pickled eggs, broccoli, cabbage, butterbeans and chili the night before a match ???

spartan
10-25-2017, 11:50 AM
Is there anything in the rules about players loading up on beer, pickled eggs, broccoli, cabbage, butterbeans and chili the night before a match ???

lol or having a snack during the match

Rico
10-25-2017, 01:25 PM
Ear plugs and hearing aids is like apples and oranges.Lets have a rule on conduct and enforce it .Bad sport cry babies shouldnt be molly coddled. Next we will have to have a soundproof room with cameras to watch .Or send certain players to a place that has soundproof rooms already.

Canadian cue
10-25-2017, 01:36 PM
Ear plugs and hearing aids is like apples and oranges.Lets have a rule on conduct and enforce it .Bad sport cry babies shouldnt be molly coddled. Next we will have to have a soundproof room with cameras to watch .Or send certain players to a place that has soundproof rooms already.

What would Earl do in a match like this:thumbup:
https://youtu.be/oXaj_wlca1o?t=7m47s

poolscholar
10-25-2017, 01:55 PM
If the reason they don't allow ear plugs is because you need to hear the ref and the shot clock, then it is quite reasonable that someone with a hearing aid needs to keep it turned on.

Being able to turn down the sound is definitely an advantage for most people in sports, whether its earplugs or by turning off hearing aids. I think I a lot more athletes would choose to reduce or turn off sound if they could without looking ridiculous wearing ear plugs.