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JamieMcWhorter
11-14-2006, 11:48 PM
Why do your lawyers know it all................. most of the players I know have talked to lawyers about their situation and they say good luck collecting anything.....KT is trying to get people paid their money so don't ruin it for players because if we keep this crap up he will give up and there will not ever be any money in pool......What are we suppose to rely on for tournaments your crappy windy city open that if you get 4th in you might be lucky enough to break even.............Every lawyer will tell you a different thing so don't act like your lawyers know more than anyone else...........................

NYC cue dude
11-14-2006, 11:56 PM
in light of todays new posting guidelines, i think the moderators will get their first opportunity to enforce the civility requirements.

as far as your post is concerned, all i have to say to you is........bye.

rg

ribdoner
11-15-2006, 12:15 AM
Why do your lawyers know it all................. most of the players I know have talked to lawyers about their situation and they say good luck collecting anything.....KT is trying to get people paid their money so don't ruin it for players because if we keep this crap up he will give up and there will not ever be any money in pool......What are we suppose to rely on for tournaments your crappy windy city open that if you get 4th in you might be lucky enough to break even.............Every lawyer will tell you a different thing so don't act like your lawyers know more than anyone else...........................

JAMIE,

What do you THINK Edyie's lawyer said?

THANKS in advance

Eydie Romano
11-15-2006, 12:58 AM
Why do your lawyers know it all................. most of the players I know have talked to lawyers about their situation and they say good luck collecting anything.....KT is trying to get people paid their money so don't ruin it for players because if we keep this crap up he will give up and there will not ever be any money in pool......What are we suppose to rely on for tournaments your crappy windy city open that if you get 4th in you might be lucky enough to break even.............Every lawyer will tell you a different thing so don't act like your lawyers know more than anyone else...........................

FYI< This info was confirmed by several other lawyers nationwide. I am not giving any wrong information.
Yes, my highly educated attorneys know a lot. Actually they know so much that they have won litigation against KT in the past. Now what do you have to say? Oh, maybe YOU know it all! LOL FOOLISH!:rolleyes:

Take the question to a lawyer that specializes in this and see if I have given the wrong info.

Fortunatly you have already proven yourself to be idiotioc in your past posts, so now you have just confirmed it...

Here's the difference between my events and the IPT, mine are established and I dont do it for the money, because there is none. I do it for the players.

You make me laugh.. Soooooo..... LOL Hold up, stop the presses everyone, Jamie McWorter has spoken! Give me a break!

av84fun
11-15-2006, 01:17 AM
Apocolypse Now. Randy and I agree on something! (-:

Bye Bye Jamie...

Eydie Romano
11-15-2006, 01:19 AM
Apocolypse Now. Randy and I agree on something! (-:

Bye Bye Jamie
OMG, does this mean kisses, hugs and making up?

Thanks av84fun, very kind indeed!

av84fun
11-15-2006, 01:26 AM
Edyie...<<Actually they know so much that they have won litigation against KT in the past. Now what do you have to say? >>

Please don't interpret this question as an expression of any doubt whatsoever about your above post. But would you kindly advise me who the plaintiff was in that litigation? It is a matter of public record so the lawyers should have no problem in giving you the names if you don't already know them.

As you may have noted, I like to keep up with legal matters. If I could just have:

Plaintiff Name v. Kevin Trudeau (or one of his entities that was sued) plus the venue in which the case was tried, I would appreciate that either here or via PM.

Thank you.

Jim

av84fun
11-15-2006, 01:28 AM
Edyie....<<OMG, does this mean kisses, hugs and making up?>>

NO KISSES....NEVER!!! LOL

Jim
and check your PM in a few minutes.
(-:

!Smorgass Bored
11-15-2006, 06:49 AM
Apocolypse Now. Randy and I agree on something! (-:




Da Howwah ! Da Howwah !
Elmer Fudd (Apocowypse Now)

Purdman
11-15-2006, 07:16 AM
Why do your lawyers know it all................. most of the players I know have talked to lawyers about their situation and they say good luck collecting anything.....KT is trying to get people paid their money so don't ruin it for players because if we keep this crap up he will give up and there will not ever be any money in pool......What are we suppose to rely on for tournaments your crappy windy city open that if you get 4th in you might be lucky enough to break even.............Every lawyer will tell you a different thing so don't act like your lawyers know more than anyone else...........................

14 posts and you have managed to offend most of us. Eydie has been aroung a lot longer than you and has done more to promote pool than most of us have. Where do you get off buddy? I know, right here. What a twerp! KT fan and azz kisser!!!
Purdman:cool:

ioCross
11-15-2006, 07:20 AM
i do wonder tho, how many players will hold off or just say oh well better than nothing and just cash it. i'd be surprised (pleasantly) if over 10% keep the checks and dont cash them.

ironman
11-15-2006, 09:12 AM
i do wonder tho, how many players will hold off or just say oh well better than nothing and just cash it. i'd be surprised (pleasantly) if over 10% keep the checks and dont cash them.

I thought about this a lot last night while letting some of this settle in.

I guess it is obviously up to the individual and their individual needs. At some point, if I were one of the players, I would get very tired of all The IPT drama.
For some, I suppose it might get them out of debt and for others maybe it wouldn't make any difference. For many who only recieved $555, what a letdown this must be.

I have a good friend right here in Texas who is an IPT player and I know what his intentions were. AH, the whole thing is just sickening.

ioCross
11-15-2006, 09:29 AM
i think most of the players will just treat this like another partial payment for an airbarrel. they'll be like, well atleast i got some cash back.

it must be depressing tho if you qualified thru a $2k tournerment, then play well enough to win some money, then have to deal with all the ipt horseshit, then after all that BS, you only get paid 550. i'd go crazy and start hunting KT.

Johnnyt
11-15-2006, 09:37 AM
Probably 90% of the unsponsered players in the USA live day to day. I think a lot of them probably owe money to people that loaned them to get to Reno..so they probably have to cash it. Johnnyt

ironman
11-15-2006, 10:38 AM
i think most of the players will just treat this like another partial payment for an airbarrel. they'll be like, well atleast i got some cash back.

it must be depressing tho if you qualified thru a $2k tournerment, then play well enough to win some money, then have to deal with all the ipt horseshit, then after all that BS, you only get paid 550. i'd go crazy and start hunting KT.

How about this? Apparently KT is only going to pay 1/3. Anyway, he has issued checks for 11%. Of those who signed with Mark Trainer, thy get Zero.
Now let your imagination roll.

ioCross
11-15-2006, 10:43 AM
my imagination is telling me i should've taken up golf instead of pool 4 years ago.

AzHousePro
11-15-2006, 11:18 AM
Yet another user who is having problems with the concept of not making personal attacks towards other users.

Mike

sniper
11-15-2006, 01:19 PM
Yet another user who is having problems with the concept of not making personal attacks towards other users.

Mike


Seems to be alot of them around lately hey Mike? You and Mr. Wilson have certainly had your hands full lately, but I appreciate you guys cleaning up the board.

cuetechasaurus
11-16-2006, 03:45 AM
I'm curious about this Jamie McWhorter guy....is this the same person who makes McWhorter custom cues?

curlyscues
11-16-2006, 04:15 AM
I'm curious about this Jamie McWhorter guy....is this the same person who makes McWhorter custom cues?
no, as far as i know he is not related. saw him once in a tourament here in michigan a couple of years ago, it looked like he was about 12.
M.C.

Flex
11-16-2006, 06:16 AM
His name is on the AZ player finder list, and there are a few pictures of him there too. Young fella.

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 06:47 AM
Probably 90% of the unsponsered players in the USA live day to day.

And whose problem is that? It is their choice. Do you feel sorry for them?

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 06:50 AM
For many who only recieved $555, what a letdown this must be.

They were still overpaid.

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 06:53 AM
FYI< This info was confirmed by several other lawyers nationwide. !


Then you should name the attorneys and attribute the quotes to them. Otherwise you are doing the same thing Jam did with her articles in IP.

NYC cue dude
11-16-2006, 07:08 AM
They were still overpaid.


Jake, didnt you ever learn that if you can't say something nice, than you should refrain from commenting, particularly if your remarks are thoughtless, INCENDIARY, and for the purposes of nothing more than to start trouble?

Might i ask, why you would continue with such bold negativity at such a time of incredible crisis for the ipt's pro players? You are posting on a billiards forum afterall, and it is evident by your postings that you don't care about them at all. So why bother coming here and contributing useless points of view.

I would have thought that you would have learned your lesson from your most recent vacation. It is one thing to have a differing opinion. It is quite another to have a position based solely on the intent of confrontations.

I applaud the moderators for taking steps to "clean" this board up by taking out the trash. I think they are halfway there.

I respectfully ask them to reconsider the concept that some of these guys are capable of reforming. It is within your powers, and certainly your perogative to change one month bans into lifetime bans. It is also possible to hand ake his walking papers, too. (as a suggestion, just view jakes recent posts since returning to see if there is even one sentence, let alon an entire post that is constructive)

I think this remedy would go a long way towards returning this forum to an enjoyable place to visit.


thanks

rg

JAM
11-16-2006, 08:32 AM
Then you should name the attorneys and attribute the quotes to them. Otherwise you are doing the same thing Jam did with her articles in IP.

I've had enough of your flippant remarks about me and mine. :mad:

AzHousePro and Mr. Wilson, please accept my apologies, but it is very difficult to read this crap. :(

Jake, you have continued to pummel this forum with nasty and mean-spirited comments targeting people who do not deserve it. :mad:

I will not let you demean Keith's good name for your own personal pleasure. Please contact J.R. Calvert and/or Sally Timko at InsidePOOL magazine about the articles written by Keith McCready if you have any doubt in your mind who wrote them instead of spreading lies and unfounded accusations on this forum.

I resent you stating that my assisting Keith is a cover-up. :mad:

You are nothing more than a trouble-maker, and the forum moderators should take notice. You have condemned female pool players stating they have no talent. You attack male pool players, calling some terrible names, derogatory names. For what it is worth, Jake, it is people like you who are bringing pool down to the gutter level. Your unfounded comments and untruths are too much to take, and you need a class on posting etiquette.

So, in sum, leave my name and Keith's name out of your future posts, especially when you lie. I am sickened by your continued attacks for no damn reason. They are hurtful, deliberate, and need to be addressed by the forum moderators.

JAM

JAM
11-16-2006, 08:47 AM
Jake, didnt you ever learn that if you can't say something nice, than you should refrain from commenting, particularly if your remarks are thoughtless, INCENDIARY, and for the purposes of nothing more than to start trouble?

Might i ask, why you would continue with such bold negativity at such a time of incredible crisis for the ipt's pro players? You are posting on a billiards forum afterall, and it is evident by your postings that you don't care about them at all. So why bother coming here and contributing useless points of view.

I would have thought that you would have learned your lesson from your most recent vacation. It is one thing to have a differing opinion. It is quite another to have a position based solely on the intent of confrontations.

I applaud the moderators for taking steps to "clean" this board up by taking out the trash. I think they are halfway there.

I respectfully ask them to reconsider the concept that some of these guys are capable of reforming. It is within your powers, and certainly your perogative to change one month bans into lifetime bans. It is also possible to hand ake his walking papers, too. (as a suggestion, just view jakes recent posts since returning to see if there is even one sentence, let alon an entire post that is constructive)

I think this remedy would go a long way towards returning this forum to an enjoyable place to visit.


thanks

rg

TAP, TAP, TAP. Hear, hear. Bravo to you, Randy, for stepping up to the plate.

This guy Jake claims to play pool. He posts on every single pool forum, NG, and Internet site that is in existence. He spends a great deal of time on the computer, posting on pool-related websites.

It is curious why someone like Jake who spends so much time on pool forums -- something he claims that others do -- continues to flame. It is uncalled for and should be addressed by the forum moderators.

Again, thank you, Randy, for posting your opinion. I agree 100 percent.

JAM

ironman
11-16-2006, 09:12 AM
I've had enough of your flippant remarks about me and mine. :mad:

AzHousePro and Mr. Wilson, please accept my apologies, but it is very difficult to read this crap. :(

Jake, you have continued to pummel this forum with nasty and mean-spirited comments targeting people who do not deserve it. :mad:

I will not let you demean Keith's good name for your own personal pleasure. Please contact J.R. Calvert and/or Sally Timko at InsidePOOL magazine about the articles written by Keith McCready if you have any doubt in your mind who wrote them instead of spreading lies and unfounded accusations on this forum.

I resent you stating that my assisting Keith is a cover-up. :mad:

You are nothing more than a trouble-maker, and the forum moderators should take notice. You have condemned female pool players stating they have no talent. You attack male pool players, calling some terrible names, derogatory names. For what it is worth, Jake, it is people like you who are bringing pool down to the gutter level. Your unfounded comments and untruths are too much to take, and you need a class on posting etiquette.

So, in sum, leave my name and Keith's name out of your future posts, especially when you lie. I am sickened by your continued attacks for no damn reason. They are hurtful, deliberate, and need to be addressed by the forum moderators.

JAM

Jam, We all miss you here and can appreciate your stance here.

I too have been a pool player most of my adult life. I'm not ashamed of it, and yes it has come with a bit of a price. Most career choices do have some sort of price. I can live with it.

People like Jake anger me because like you stated, they are part of the problem with the game today, not the solution. That said, words are simply words. They only hurt if I allow them to.

My point, I think we just made Jake's day by responding to his ridiculous crap. It takes two to play a game and I just quit. From this minute forward, Jake no longer exists. His views and opinions are worthless, discounted. He is an embarassment to the game and many people I care about.

It takes all kinds to make a pool room and the world of pool. Kieth has never claimed to be a literary genious or ever pretended to be anything other than Kieth. His stories of the past are entertaining and we go looking for them. Who proofs them,{and I think I safely speak for most of the pool playing world} who cares? Just don't stop. IMHO!

This place just doesn't seem the same without you guys!!!!

Lewis

Purdman
11-16-2006, 09:22 AM
JAM, consider the source. We all know Jake is a nobody with a big negative mouth. No one believes a damn thin that comes out of his mouth. I don't think you need to worry, he will be gone soon. Being civil is not in his make up. He belongs on So.Cal with Shorty.
Your friend, Purdman

Will ya come back when Jakeazz is gone?:D Please!!!!

NYC cue dude
11-16-2006, 09:27 AM
purdman,

the concern here is not that jake has no credibility or that people should ignore him. What is essentially most important is, why is he allowed to continually, with his brand of bitterness, allowed to bait for the purposes of an arguement, other posters into a confrontation.

What is worse is that he is using his disdain for pool players as the bait, on a pool forum no less.

I say that this is no democracy, and that az administrators are not compelled to offer second chances to those that are beyond rehabilitation.

rg

Johnnyt
11-16-2006, 09:33 AM
People like Jake remind me of bangers that lost BAD to a good pool player not long ago and are bitter of the game now and any player that is any good at it. Instead of walking away because they never will get any better they hide behind computer sceens to try to rid their bitterness. Johnnyt

JAM
11-16-2006, 09:33 AM
Jam, We all miss you here and can appreciate your stance here.

I too have been a pool player most of my adult life. I'm not ashamed of it, and yes it has come with a bit of a price. Most career choices do have some sort of price. I can live with it.

People like Jake anger me because like you stated, they are part of the problem with the game today, not the solution. That said, words are simply words. They only hurt if I allow them to.

My point, I think we just made Jake's day by responding to his ridiculous crap. It takes two to play a game and I just quit. From this minute forward, Jake no longer exists. His views and opinions are worthless, discounted. He is an embarassment to the game and many people I care about.

It takes all kinds to make a pool room and the world of pool. Kieth has never claimed to be a literary genious or ever pretended to be anything other than Kieth. His stories of the past are entertaining and we go looking for them. Who proofs them,{and I think I safely speak for most of the pool playing world} who cares? Just don't stop. IMHO!

This place just doesn't seem the same without you guys!!!!

Lewis

Lewis, thank you for sharing your thoughts and the kind words.:)

When I first met Keith, I had a great deal of enthusiasm for pool. It is gone today. I am trying to regain my enthusiasm, but there are reasons why it is not so easy to regain.:(

Of course, I am going to read AzBilliards for the latest pool happenings because I believe it is the best pool-related website on the net. There's a little bit of something for everybody to enjoy.:)

JAM

JAM
11-16-2006, 09:45 AM
JAM, consider the source. We all know Jake is a nobody with a big negative mouth. No one believes a damn thin that comes out of his mouth. I don't think you need to worry, he will be gone soon. Being civil is not in his make up. He belongs on So.Cal with Shorty.
Your friend, Purdman

Will ya come back when Jakeazz is gone?:D Please!!!!

Don, Jake is not the only culprit, unfortunately. Because of the forum culture in general, it is a difficult environment for some folks.

Besides, lurking ain't so bad. I can at least keep up with the pool smut and happenings. :D

JAM

Tim-n-NM
11-16-2006, 09:59 AM
It is great to see you have been lurking Jam. Hope you pop in from time to time.

!Smorgass Bored
11-16-2006, 11:48 AM
Besides, lurking ain't so bad. I can at least keep up with the pool smut and happenings. :D
JAM


Yeah... and we ain't mad atchya.
Doug
( doing my best "Shane" impersonation: "come back JAM, JAM comeback, JaaaaaaaaaaM come baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack )

ljmoss
11-16-2006, 03:05 PM
in reading posts today i saw the comments and the comebacks and the arguements in relation to the ipt. .
as i stated in one of my posts sometime ago "the negative posts on az regarding pool in all manners makes "us" the player and az poster part of the "problem" not the "solution "to improving the image of pool.
why all the chit chat?
the main persons that should be concerned with the ipt payments are the players involved. it really is no one elses business, with the exception that we all would like to see the ipt succeed , or would we? judging by some of the posts , it looks like lions feeding on their prey! and all these posts are doing is showing the "small town gossip "of mostly non ipt members. a witch hunt of sorts. this comment is not directed toward any one individual, and not meant to hurt the feelings of anyone. it is my opinion. this is a very serious legal matter that i am sure is being handled by the pros in an appropriate manner . this is their business to handle. are we trying to handle it for them ? it appears so. do we see the ipt pros airing their grievances on forums?
they will do what best serves the SPORT and themselves as a unit in the end i am sure.
hopefully this will get itself resolved, and the ipt will be back and stronger than ever. after all, it was the best thing that ever happened to the sport of pool in history . lets hope it does not end up being the worst thing.
lets ENCOURAGE a happy ending instead of trying to hasten an unpleasant one.
i, myself was at the orlando ipt tour stop.
it was the most amazing production of the sport of pool that i have ever witnessed or probably ever will again unless the ipt comes back.
to see the professional players finally get the attention, respect, and playing field they deserve , IN AN ARENA made for movie stars, after years of hard work of practicing and competing all over the world was pure joy for me to see.the hall of famers , i am sure, it has been an experience of a lifetime that no matter the outcome, they will say they would not have missed for anything.imo
i personally think that the ipt and the pros at this time would be better off without the "ipt" forum, as we have become
"bad press" imo
lets encourage this thing to work out and be back bigger and better than ever.

linda j moss
certified bca national referee
bca league operator
diamond table sales and vending of fl
founding member of the spirit tour of fl
member of kingsbay tour
in general a full supporter of the sport of pool

sniper
11-16-2006, 03:08 PM
I had to put Jake on my ignore list several years ago, I'm allergic to stupidity.

Mr. Wilson
11-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Look, its going to be like this Jake.

The very next time you mention or allude to Jen or Keith, you will be banned.

The coy sleights are uncalled for and will come with a consequence the very next time.

This is the only warning that is going to be given.

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:02 PM
Jake, didnt you ever learn that if you can't say something nice, than you should refrain from commenting, particularly if your remarks are thoughtless, INCENDIARY, and for the purposes of nothing more than to start trouble?

Might i ask, why you would continue with such bold negativity at such a time of incredible crisis for the ipt's pro players? You are posting on a billiards forum afterall, and it is evident by your postings that you don't care about them at all. So why bother coming here and contributing useless points of view.

I would have thought that you would have learned your lesson from your most recent vacation. It is one thing to have a differing opinion. It is quite another to have a position based solely on the intent of confrontations.

I applaud the moderators for taking steps to "clean" this board up by taking out the trash. I think they are halfway there.

I respectfully ask them to reconsider the concept that some of these guys are capable of reforming. It is within your powers, and certainly your perogative to change one month bans into lifetime bans. It is also possible to hand ake his walking papers, too. (as a suggestion, just view jakes recent posts since returning to see if there is even one sentence, let alon an entire post that is constructive)

I think this remedy would go a long way towards returning this forum to an enjoyable place to visit.


thanks

rg


Gee Randy, I am surprised to read the above coming from you.

I do not like people who go around quoting people without naming who they quote. I don't think you do either.

When I found out that JAM was writing the articles in Inside Pool as a ghost writer I was very dissappointed. The articles were interesting and very well written. Since I was under the impression that any article in a respected magazine like Inside Pool would not try and deceive the readers I fully thought that Keith was writing them. It gave me a much better impression of the man. Now I find out it was all a sham.

So, am I to assume that all the articles in Inside Pool are a sham? Are they all written by someone else?

If that upsets you Randy then so be it. I do have ethics. I would have thought you did too.

Go back and read the JAM thread from 10/14 and you will see a bunch of people who objected to that.

I have never been one to criticize JAM or Keith, I think she has me confused with Jimbo.

She was complaining about rack riggers and said Keith would never rig a rack. Did she say that with a straight face? How would she know anyway? He wouldn't tell her.

Jake

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:08 PM
I've had enough of your flippant remarks about me and mine. :mad:

AzHousePro and Mr. Wilson, please accept my apologies, but it is very difficult to read this crap. :(

Jake, you have continued to pummel this forum with nasty and mean-spirited comments targeting people who do not deserve it. :mad:

I will not let you demean Keith's good name for your own personal pleasure. Please contact J.R. Calvert and/or Sally Timko at InsidePOOL magazine about the articles written by Keith McCready if you have any doubt in your mind who wrote them instead of spreading lies and unfounded accusations on this forum.

I resent you stating that my assisting Keith is a cover-up. :mad:

You are nothing more than a trouble-maker, and the forum moderators should take notice. You have condemned female pool players stating they have no talent. You attack male pool players, calling some terrible names, derogatory names. For what it is worth, Jake, it is people like you who are bringing pool down to the gutter level. Your unfounded comments and untruths are too much to take, and you need a class on posting etiquette.

So, in sum, leave my name and Keith's name out of your future posts, especially when you lie. I am sickened by your continued attacks for no damn reason. They are hurtful, deliberate, and need to be addressed by the forum moderators.

JAM



You are losing it JAM. Must have me confused with Jimbo, or Watchez, or any number of other posters.

They do have medication for PMS.

Jake

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:13 PM
This guy Jake claims to play pool. He posts on every single pool forum, NG, and Internet site that is in existence. He spends a great deal of time on the computer, posting on pool-related websites.
JAM

Are you talking about me? Or yourself?

I have 2.04 posts here a day.

Maybe 4 posts a week on other sites.

What internet sites?

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:18 PM
JAM, consider the source. We all know Jake is a nobody with a big negative mouth. No one believes a damn thin that comes out of his mouth. I don't think you need to worry, he will be gone soon. Being civil is not in his make up. He belongs on So.Cal with Shorty.
Your friend, Purdman

Will ya come back when Jakeazz is gone?:D Please!!!!


Oh Oh Purdman, pretty soon JAM will be on you for posting on every site there is.

C'mon Purdman, you know you love me.

Da Poet
11-16-2006, 05:18 PM
You are losing it JAM. Must have me confused with Jimbo, or Watchez, or any number of other posters.

They do have medication for PMS.

Jake


Jake, have you even glanced at post #38 in this thread?

!Smorgass Bored
11-16-2006, 05:19 PM
Gee Randy, I am surprised to read the above coming from you.

I do not like people who go around quoting people without naming who they quote. I don't think you do either.

When I found out that JAM was writing the articles in Inside Pool as a ghost writer I was very dissappointed. The articles were interesting and very well written. Since I was under the impression that any article in a respected magazine like Inside Pool would not try and deceive the readers I fully thought that Keith was writing them. It gave me a much better impression of the man. Now I find out it was all a sham.

So, am I to assume that all the articles in Inside Pool are a sham? Are they all written by someone else?

If that upsets you Randy then so be it. I do have ethics. I would have thought you did too.

Go back and read the JAM thread from 10/14 and you will see a bunch of people who objected to that.

I have never been one to criticize JAM or Keith, I think she has me confused with Jimbo.

She was complaining about rack riggers and said Keith would never rig a rack. Did she say that with a straight face? How would she know anyway? He wouldn't tell her.
Jake


Jake, I thought that you were smarter than is. Did you even bother to READ the previous post?

Mr. Wilson wrote:
Look, its going to be like this Jake.
The very next time you mention or allude to Jen or Keith, you will be banned.
The coy sleights are uncalled for and will come with a consequence the very next time.
This is the only warning that is going to be given.


You're purposely pushing the envelope, but to what end ?
Doug

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:23 PM
People like Jake remind me of bangers that lost BAD to a good pool player not long ago and are bitter of the game now and any player that is any good at it. Instead of walking away because they never will get any better they hide behind computer sceens to try to rid their bitterness. Johnnyt


Ha Ha Ha Spoken like a typical shortstop

Too good to play with the locals and not good enough to play with the pros and now plays with himself. Oops, I mean by himself.

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:35 PM
Jake, have you even glanced at post #38 in this thread?


Now I did.

Oh Oh

Does this mean what I think it means?

Save me Doug.

Where is that electostatic disabler.

Is there no one who likes me?

I must really be hated.

There is only one thing left for me to do.

That is end it all.

No, not that end.

I mean no more nice guy.

So far you have seen the nice side of me.

JAM
11-16-2006, 05:40 PM
When I found out that JAM was writing the articles in Inside Pool as a ghost writer I was very dissappointed. The articles were interesting and very well written. Since I was under the impression that any article in a respected magazine like Inside Pool would not try and deceive the readers I fully thought that Keith was writing them. It gave me a much better impression of the man. Now I find out it was all a sham.

I shouldn't have to explain Keith McCready's articles that he wrote for InsidePOOL on AzBilliards forum, but I cannot stand by and watch people like you rip Keith apart with lies. He doesn't deserve it.

So, am I to assume that all the articles in Inside Pool are a sham? Are they all written by someone else?

Do you think you're cute slamming InsidePOOL magazine on AzBilliards Discussion Forum? You know exactly what you're doing, and I hope the necessary precautions will be taken to prevent this from happening.

Go back and read the JAM thread from 10/14 and you will see a bunch of people who objected to that.

Well, let's set the record straight then, Jake. The bunch of people who "objected," as you put it, have one thing in common. They are trouble-makers, much like you. Some of them are banned, which speaks volumes about the caliber of posters you are referring to.

I have never been one to criticize JAM or Keith, I think she has me confused with Jimbo.

Nope.

She was complaining about rack riggers and said Keith would never rig a rack. Did she say that with a straight face? How would she know anyway? He wouldn't tell her.

Now you show your ignorance.

I watched a YouTube video recently of Ralf Souquet and Ronnie Alcano at the awards ceremony in the Philippines at the WPC.

I got chills watching the short video clip. It was magical, and I really enjoyed it. What really caught my attention, though, was the way the jolly Filipinos embraced players from around the world, welcoming them with open arms. When I saw Ralf get emotional in his acceptance speech as runner-up, the tears welled up in my eyes, and then to see the whole house chanting his name, "Souquet, Souquet, Souquet," it gave me goosebumps! :p

I have always said in the past that pool's toughest critics come from within its own culture. I am wrong. It's only the American critics from within the American pool culture that have kept pool in the gutter in this country.

You can continue to demean American players, Jake. Keith may be the flavor of the month for a flamer like you, but I gotta tell you that there are some American pool players who will still hold their head up high because they know who they are, and nobody -- not even you, Jake -- will ever be able to take it away from them.

JAM

jjinfla
11-16-2006, 05:41 PM
Jake, I thought that you were smarter than is. Did you even bother to READ the previous post?

Mr. Wilson wrote:
Look, its going to be like this Jake.
The very next time you mention or allude to Jen or Keith, you will be banned.
The coy sleights are uncalled for and will come with a consequence the very next time.
This is the only warning that is going to be given.


You're purposely pushing the envelope, but to what end ?
Doug


You know Doug, it is hard to believe that you only have 0.85 posts a day.

What end, I don't know. I am a dead man. It has been fun. Key word has.

The Eydies, Timberlies and JAMs have ruined it all with their pompous attitude.

I spoke to JAM twice at Orlando and she snubbed me both times. All she wanted to do was hang with the pros. And hide when Keith was playing.

See ya guys.

JJJ

!Smorgass Bored
11-16-2006, 05:47 PM
You know Doug, it is hard to believe that you only have 0.85 posts a day.

What end, I don't know. I am a dead man. It has been fun. Key word has.

The Eydies, Timberlies and JAMs have ruined it all with their pompous attitude.

I spoke to JAM twice at Orlando and she snubbed me both times. All she wanted to do was hang with the pros. And hide when Keith was playing.

See ya guys.

JJJ


Have a nice Thanksgiving Jake, perhaps you'll be back by Christmas...
Doug
( if you ARE, please buy a Lotto ticket as well.......... c'ya later )

!Smorgass Bored
11-16-2006, 06:07 PM
You know Doug, it is hard to believe that you only have 0.85 posts a day.
JJJ


Well Jake, like you, I re-joined AZB in March of 2003 and for years I didn't post as often as I do now. So, when you divide the number of posts into 3 1/2 years, it comes out a low number.
Doug
( and along the way, I think I may have accidently Deleted a post or two )

Roy Steffensen
11-16-2006, 06:22 PM
I think you have like 10 - 15 posts a day now, because I think I read about 10 - 15 threads a day, and you're in them all... :)

Have we actually seen Jake say goodbye without getting banned? That's no fun! Come back Jake, say something bad to us so you can get banned instead!!! :)

Mr. Wilson
11-16-2006, 06:41 PM
I guess I wasn't clear enough.

steadyneddy
11-16-2006, 06:52 PM
man this place never changes...........


I shouldn't have to explain Keith McCready's articles that he wrote for InsidePOOL on AzBilliards forum, but I cannot stand by and watch people like you rip Keith apart with lies. He doesn't deserve it.



Do you think you're cute slamming InsidePOOL magazine on AzBilliards Discussion Forum? You know exactly what you're doing, and I hope the necessary precautions will be taken to prevent this from happening.



Well, let's set the record straight then, Jake. The bunch of people who "objected," as you put it, have one thing in common. They are trouble-makers, much like you. Some of them are banned, which speaks volumes about the caliber of posters you are referring to.



Nope.



Now you show your ignorance.

I watched a YouTube video recently of Ralf Souquet and Ronnie Alcano at the awards ceremony in the Philippines at the WPC.

I got chills watching the short video clip. It was magical, and I really enjoyed it. What really caught my attention, though, was the way the jolly Filipinos embraced players from around the world, welcoming them with open arms. When I saw Ralf get emotional in his acceptance speech as runner-up, the tears welled up in my eyes, and then to see the whole house chanting his name, "Souquet, Souquet, Souquet," it gave me goosebumps! :p

I have always said in the past that pool's toughest critics come from within its own culture. I am wrong. It's only the American critics from within the American pool culture that have kept pool in the gutter in this country.

You can continue to demean American players, Jake. Keith may be the flavor of the month for a flamer like you, but I gotta tell you that there are some American pool players who will still hold their head up high because they know who they are, and nobody -- not even you, Jake -- will ever be able to take it away from them.

JAM

JAM
11-16-2006, 07:01 PM
man this place never changes...........

This place has changed quite a bit.

I will not stand by and read lies about me or mine. Sorry if it offends you enough to make a contribution to this already-horrible thread. Do you feel better now? I sure do, man.

JAM

satman
11-16-2006, 07:18 PM
Don, Jake is not the only culprit, unfortunately. Because of the forum culture in general, it is a difficult environment for some folks.

Besides, lurking ain't so bad. I can at least keep up with the pool smut and happenings. :D

JAM

I am assuming I missed the whole thing about keith's articles in IP. Everyone who writes articles have someone proof them. Athlete's and other famous people don't generally write their own books, they tell their stories to a ghost writer, and then another person proof-reads that. Keith has a load of stories, just as Grady, Buddy, Billy and a whole lot of other players that need to be shared. It is part of the history of our sport. So to me, regardless of how I get to hear them or read them, I will always enjoy them.

As for you Jam, I haven't been posting or lurking as much lately, but I still miss your post's when I'm here. You, Eydie and Timberly have been the main part of the post's I enjoy, and main info sources. No offense to the rest of the gang. Nice to have you stop in. Sam

Timberly
11-16-2006, 07:43 PM
As for you Jam, I haven't been posting or lurking as much lately, but I still miss your post's when I'm here. You, Eydie and Timberly have been the main part of the post's I enjoy, and main info sources. No offense to the rest of the gang. Nice to have you stop in. Sam
Awww, thanks Sam! :o

Kinda funny you should post about me today... I was thinking about you today. LMAO, remember when we first met?? LOLOLOLOL (sorry, I'm cracking up thinking about it). :D

Anyway, I should be arriving in Louisville much earlier this yr and I'll have a soft sided cooler on wheels. I thought of you and your generosity in sharing your beer with me last yr. and I would like to offer you some precious spots in my cooler. :p Will you be there the first Friday again this yr??

satman
11-16-2006, 08:59 PM
Awww, thanks Sam! :o

Kinda funny you should post about me today... I was thinking about you today. LMAO, remember when we first met?? LOLOLOLOL (sorry, I'm cracking up thinking about it). :D

Anyway, I should be arriving in Louisville much earlier this yr and I'll have a soft sided cooler on wheels. I thought of you and your generosity in sharing your beer with me last yr. and I would like to offer you some precious spots in my cooler. :p Will you be there the first Friday again this yr??

What was so funny? Me stumbling or the drool running down my chin? JK It was a fun week. I will be there for the banks and the one pocket at the least. If I do well in either one of those, I'll play in the 9-ball too. I'll have plenty of beer with me again and it was my pleasure to share them with you. Nothing better than going to a great tournament, watching world class pool and getting to play some with the best players in the world, and hanging out drinking beer with beautiful women. Just a few more weeks away.

Timberly
11-16-2006, 09:02 PM
What was so funny? Me stumbling or the drool running down my chin?
Let me refresh your memory... a chick walks out of the bar with a beer in each hand and you say.... :D :D :D

Looking forward to seeing you again Sam. ;)

Jimmy M.
11-17-2006, 12:51 AM
Yet another user who is having problems with the concept of not making personal attacks towards other users.

Mike

Don't take this personally, but you're a serious a-hole. :p

NYC cue dude
11-17-2006, 07:08 AM
jimmy, your abovestatment, whowas this directed towards? Just curious.

rg

ironman
11-17-2006, 07:24 AM
jimmy, your abovestatment, whowas this directed towards? Just curious.

rg

A little curious myself. I thought I was missing something.

Timberly
11-17-2006, 09:28 AM
Mike said...
Yet another user who is having problems with the concept of not making personal attacks towards other users.

Mike
Jimmy quoted Mike and said...
Don't take this personally, but you're a serious a-hole. :p
It appears to me that Jimmy was being facetious. ;)

Jimmy M.
11-17-2006, 11:37 AM
jimmy, your abovestatment, whowas this directed towards? Just curious.

rg

AZHousePro. I had no idea it wasn't obvious. Sorry, guys. Mike and I are friends and I was just ribbing him a little.

sniper
11-17-2006, 11:56 AM
AZHousePro. I had no idea it wasn't obvious. Sorry, guys. Mike and I are friends and I was just ribbing him a little.



I caught onto that right away Jimmy, maybe the earlier nature of this thread has everyone on edge a little?

KBP
11-18-2006, 10:06 AM
I have had several questions posted to me in emails and other venues about the IPT. I do not respond to these because I run the qualifiers that are held at Capone's in Springhill. I have been asked questions about the IPT and asked what the pros think. I cannot answer any of your questions. I have read all but understand I am just running qualifiers for my friend and room owner Rocky. I have nothing to do with the inner workings of the IPT. When all this came about I sat back and watched. I have met KT and he was very polite and nice to me. I think his intentions were good but maybe, like some businesses things just didn't work out. I don't know but I do know that this business between the players and the IPT is between them. I think too many people have stuck their noses in and spread so much bs that all the information has gotten blown out of proportion. I feel for the players and I know most of them and I was hoping that all this would work out for the best interest of the billiard world. But as we have seen in the past there is so much bs that it has a hard time getting its head above water. Too many cooks spoil the soup. That is what happens when people that don't need to be involved or has nothing to do with the situation stick their noses in. I wish all luck in getting their money and getting things straight.
Kay

macguy
11-18-2006, 10:50 AM
I have had several questions posted to me in emails and other venues about the IPT. I do not respond to these because I run the qualifiers that are held at Capone's in Springhill. I have been asked questions about the IPT and asked what the pros think. I cannot answer any of your questions. I have read all but understand I am just running qualifiers for my friend and room owner Rocky. I have nothing to do with the inner workings of the IPT. When all this came about I sat back and watched. I have met KT and he was very polite and nice to me. I think his intentions were good but maybe, like some businesses things just didn't work out. I don't know but I do know that this business between the players and the IPT is between them. I think too many people have stuck their noses in and spread so much bs that all the information has gotten blown out of proportion. I feel for the players and I know most of them and I was hoping that all this would work out for the best interest of the billiard world. But as we have seen in the past there is so much bs that it has a hard time getting its head above water. Too many cooks spoil the soup. That is what happens when people that don't need to be involved or has nothing to do with the situation stick their noses in. I wish all luck in getting their money and getting things straight.
Kay


You are right there has been a lot of BS but it has come from the IPT and KT. All most of the people on here have tried to do is sort it out and find the truth. Make no mistake, without the pressure being applied by whoever, the players would probably not be getting the checks they are now. This is like a lot of things in life, sometimes people don't recognize who their real friends are. It is pretty clear the IPT won't work and it became clear to KT and his crew I am sure a while back.

All they had to do was just put on the brakes, instead of holding another tournament. If they just did that they would not be where they are now and may have even reorganized it and took another shot with a better business plan. I think and I am actually certain of this, that many of the players that are still backing the IPT are hoping it will continue and there will be the chosen 150 and the guaranteed, even if not the $100,000 promised but they are still believing they are part of something.

If the IPT continues in some kind of form, the "stable of player" system will have to be scrapped for an open tournament format. There will be no more IPT members so to speak, the IPT will become tournament promoters and not try to emulate the PGA or anything else. I do believe their qualifier system is good and it has proven that players will enter if it is worth it. Picture this.

Open tournaments with $750,000 to $1,000,000 prize funds. The only way to get in is to qualify for say a $250.00 entry fee. You hold four tournaments a year. Here is the kicker, it has sort of a king of the hill element to it. The top 16 finishers in the tournament automatically move on to the next tournament without having to qualify. As long as you can finish in the top 16 you never have to qualify. They do that along with all the other tournament things to generate income, TV what ever. You would have pool buzz in the pool community continuously since qualifiers will be going on almost continuously leading up to the tournaments.

The interest could only build and I am certain it would draw sponsors because the advertising would be so on going and not just hit and miss. This is just one idea that could be good I am sure there are others. The IPT didn't do a bad thing, they just did what they did badly.

sde
11-18-2006, 11:10 AM
Open tournaments with $750,000 to $1,000,000 prize funds. The only way to get in is to qualify for say a $250.00 entry fee. You hold four tournaments a year. Here is the kicker, it has sort of a king of the hill element to it. The top 16 finishers in the tournament automatically move on to the next tournament without having to qualify. As long as you can finish in the top 16 you never have to qualify. They do that along with all the other tournament things to generate income, TV what ever. You would have pool buzz in the pool community continuously since qualifiers will be going on almost continuously leading up to the tournaments.

The interest could only build and I am certain it would draw sponsors because the advertising would be so on going and not just hit and miss. This is just one idea that could be good I am sure there are others. The IPT didn't do a bad thing, they just did what they did badly.

Just a couple of questions:
1) Would there be limit to the size of the field and if so what would it be?
2) Would you like to see it remain a round robin format or change to something different?

Thanks
Steve

macguy
11-18-2006, 12:04 PM
Just a couple of questions:
1) Would there be limit to the size of the field and if so what would it be?
2) Would you like to see it remain a round robin format or change to something different?

Thanks
Steve

I think the logistics of round robin for an entire tournament don't work. It requires to much to complete the tournament. I like double elimination or even single elimination with multiple sets like tennis. I played in a tournament in Holland if I remember right, that was single elimination up to the last 16 then a redraw and we played sort of a new tournament, DE. They had 360 players and got it played, I finished 6th by the way.

There are so many way to play that can work as long as the people in charge are business people who can work to keep the thing out of the red. The truth is and this is the most important truth is. To not try to compare what pool is to other sports, pool is unique. Pool isn't golf or tennis or basketball and it doesn't have to be the next flash in the pan for it to be a success. Pool is not a fad, it has a huge fan base and millions of players play.

It has a nitch market that can be tapped if gone about in the right way. Once established it would be long lasting . Something Like I described, even at my age would have me practicing again for a chance to take a shot at the qualifiers.

The qualifiers themselves have to be cash tournaments as well. There needs to be something to be won even it you don't win one of the entries. Pool could be a year round happening sport with something always to follow and talk about. I do believe there are sponsors out there that have not been tapped that could be brought in.

star
11-27-2006, 02:14 PM
Jake, didnt you ever learn that if you can't say something nice, than you should refrain from commenting, particularly if your remarks are thoughtless, INCENDIARY, and for the purposes of nothing more than to start trouble?

Might i ask, why you would continue with such bold negativity at such a time of incredible crisis for the ipt's pro players? You are posting on a billiards forum afterall, and it is evident by your postings that you don't care about them at all. So why bother coming here and contributing useless points of view.

I would have thought that you would have learned your lesson from your most recent vacation. It is one thing to have a differing opinion. It is quite another to have a position based solely on the intent of confrontations.

I applaud the moderators for taking steps to "clean" this board up by taking out the trash. I think they are halfway there.

I respectfully ask them to reconsider the concept that some of these guys are capable of reforming. It is within your powers, and certainly your perogative to change one month bans into lifetime bans. It is also possible to hand ake his walking papers, too. (as a suggestion, just view jakes recent posts since returning to see if there is even one sentence, let alon an entire post that is constructive)

I think this remedy would go a long way towards returning this forum to an enjoyable place to visit.


thanks

rg
Hmmmmmm!
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=45320&page=2

NYC cue dude
11-27-2006, 02:33 PM
Hmmmmmm!
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=45320&page=2


Now that is funny.

A "new" troll, here to stir the pot.

Perhaps you should review jaspers posts, and related threads to see the anguish he caused to other forum members and ipt pros. His sole purpose here was to cause trouble, and he is now banned because of it.

rg

star
11-27-2006, 02:35 PM
Now that is funny.

A "new" troll, here to stir the pot.

Perhaps you should review jaspers posts, and related threads to see the anguish he caused to other forum members and ipt pros. His sole purpose here was to cause trouble, and he is now banned because of it.

rg
Don't you think you owe Alain an apology?

Mr. Wilson
11-27-2006, 02:58 PM
star = alain boutin = jasper = all banned...again

NYC cue dude
11-27-2006, 03:19 PM
Thank you, dave.

My suspicions were half right, anyway.

rg

Jack Flanagan
11-27-2006, 03:42 PM
The Eydies, Timberlies and JAMs have ruined it all with their pompous attitude.



At least these three ladies have something of substance to say !!!

When I first joined AZ, I always looked forward to her(JAM's) posts,,,miss you Jam, please come back more often,,,

Eydie, Timberly, and all the other ladies on AZ; keep it up. I enjoy reading most of what you say and am not going to flame things you say that I might disagree with...

I enjoy pool, disdain those who screw up pool's progress and respect ladies who can speak their minds,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,jflan :)