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UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 01:15 PM
Are there are problems that arise from having your pool table in your two car garage? I am looking into purchasing a house in the next two months and with what I can afford I would more than likely have my table in the garage (unless I can find a house with a large enough room). Some things I have taken into consideration:

1. Obviously making sure there is plenty of room to fit the table in there.
2. Possibly need carpet because concrete is cold.
3. Insulate and Finish the garage drywall to keep warmth in so table won't warp.
4. Making sure there is a light plug on the ceiling where the table light
would be plugged in.
5. Maybe making sure that rain from the outside doesn't come inside or ruin carpet.
6. Maybe sealing/taping gaps around garage door where cold air could come in.
7. Maybe need a space heater/electric fireplace for warmth since no heat duct fed to garage?

Any other things that I should take into account? Have you had any problems with having your table in there?

NoBull9
11-16-2006, 01:22 PM
It looks like your list is good.The main thing you want to control in the room is the tempature and humidity.These are the to things that effect a pool table.

Fuji-whopper
11-16-2006, 01:27 PM
Aren't most garages built on like a 2% grade to help drainage, or something like that? So that would mean one side of the table will be ever so slightly higher than the other side.

Some sound deadening material might be good too if you don't carpet the full floor, concrete echos really well.

tjlmbklr
11-16-2006, 01:43 PM
Correct me if I am confusing him with someone else, but I beleive AZ's very own John Schmidt has/had a table set up in a garage in 'humid' Florida. I know this because he was kind enough to talk with me on the phone when I was having concerns with my table's cloth.

smittie1984
11-16-2006, 01:51 PM
Aren't most garages built on like a 2% grade to help drainage, or something like that? So that would mean one side of the table will be ever so slightly higher than the other side.

Some sound deadening material might be good too if you don't carpet the full floor, concrete echos really well.

You are right. Or they atleast slope in a direction out of the garage. My garage is bad about it. There is a 3" difference from one side of my table to the other side. You can feel a major difference when you lean over the table.

My table is in my Garage. I don't have carpet down yet. I just wanted my table. However I'm a table mechanic and can take the table apart and move it all day long without it costing me a thing. So if I wasn't a mechanic I'd put carpet down first.

I did heat my garage with a couple of heaters which seem to work great. If you have gas that's even better.

Also what kind of table do you plan to get. A Furniture style or Commecial with Leg levelers?

UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 01:56 PM
I will more than likely be purchasing a used 9ft Gold Crown III from our own "ajrack" as he has several in storage here in Vancouver.

ridewiththewind
11-16-2006, 02:06 PM
While mine is not on a concrete floor, it is in the 2nd floor of our shop. The table is sitting on an extra sheet of plywood, as an added barrier from the cold. We heat the shop with a wood stove. I recommend that in this rainy season, you heat the garage for at least an hour before uncovering and using the table. We have found that if you uncover the table immediately before the heat has had a chance to remove moisture from the air, it will get the cloth on the table damp, as it wants to attach itself to the next coldest thing in the room...the slate.

I might recommend the plywood with the carpet on top for sitting directly on the concrete floor, should provide a nice barrier from the cold and moisture. And no, the plywood does not slide around on the floor.

Lisa

smittie1984
11-16-2006, 02:23 PM
I will more than likely be purchasing a used 9ft Gold Crown III from our own "ajrack" as he has several in storage here in Vancouver.

That's what I got.

Here are some pictures of my table in my garage.

My Gold Crown 3 (http://blog.myspace.com/smittie61984)

Cuebacca
11-16-2006, 02:29 PM
I have heard that direct sunlight can accelerate the aging of cushion rubber, which makes sense. Could cause the cloth to fade too, I assume. Of course, this problem isn't limited to a garage, but anyway, if you have any windows in there, you might want to get curtains and/or a table cover. Oh yeah, you might want an auxiliary fridge in there too for easy access to your beverage of choice. :D

Handsumm
11-16-2006, 02:29 PM
Hey UWPoolGod, where do you hang out? I live in Vancouver as well. I think I know who you are. If you aren't trying to keep it a secret, what's your name?

Are you T*** Sp**km*n?

cuejoey
11-16-2006, 02:50 PM
Are there are problems that arise from having your pool table in your two car garage? I am looking into purchasing a house in the next two months and with what I can afford I would more than likely have my table in the garage (unless I can find a house with a large enough room). Some things I have taken into consideration:

1. Obviously making sure there is plenty of room to fit the table in there.
2. Possibly need carpet because concrete is cold.
3. Insulate and Finish the garage drywall to keep warmth in so table won't warp.
4. Making sure there is a light plug on the ceiling where the table light
would be plugged in.
5. Maybe making sure that rain from the outside doesn't come inside or ruin carpet.
6. Maybe sealing/taping gaps around garage door where cold air could come in.
7. Maybe need a space heater/electric fireplace for warmth since no heat duct fed to garage?

Any other things that I should take into account? Have you had any problems with having your table in there?
yes temp.and humidity problems as mentioned.especially in Washington.concrete floor check with the carpet people for the best mold proof carpet for basement type use.perhaps a plastic down first to keep moisture out..nice plush carpet is good on your feet and back.be careful on getting the right furnace/heater.extending duct work from a basement to a garage is easy.you will still need supplemental heat.make sure you have a cold air return so air will circulate better..that way when the whole house fan is on the garage will get some. ..most of the NO VENT gas heaters actually create Humidity.something you do not want.put ALOT of insulation everywhere.it will pay for you in your cold climate.also you do not want alot of hot air blowing on your wood table or where your cues will be stored..good luck in your project and keep us posted...

UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 02:55 PM
Hey UWPoolGod, where do you hang out? I live in Vancouver as well. I think I know who you are. If you aren't trying to keep it a secret, what's your name?

Are you T*** Sp**km*n?

I'd be the one. What's up man? How's Henrys been treatin ya? :)

UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 02:59 PM
Oh yeah, you might want an auxiliary fridge in there too for easy access to your beverage of choice. :D

Still got the small beer fridge from college. All set in that department. :D :D

Handsumm
11-16-2006, 03:08 PM
Haven't been going there for a while. I beat Shoe for the first time the other night (only other time we have played I missed a straight in 8 for the win).

If you need help setting up that table, let me know. I used to do that back in OKC. What will you be using to control the humidity?

Jack Madden
11-16-2006, 03:09 PM
I will more than likely be purchasing a used 9ft Gold Crown III from our own "ajrack" as he has several in storage here in Vancouver.

You may want to reserve one if you haven't already. He may have a buyer in Montana for some or all of the tables. Have you seen Sarge lately - guess he is dealing now.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com

UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 03:12 PM
What will you be using to control the humidity?

Good question. Any ideas out there? I know about huge dehumidification units being in the industrial painting industry but not much about small home units. Does anyone else have specific units for their pool room in the garage?

UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 03:43 PM
You may want to reserve one if you haven't already. He may have a buyer in Montana for some or all of the tables. Have you seen Sarge lately - guess he is dealing now.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com

I haven't seen Jackson for a month or so. He was going on a trip to Austrailia. If he doesn't have one I also possibly have a line on a reasonable GC4. And if not that then I may bite the bullet and get a brand new Gibson (http://www.brunswick-billiards.com/brunswick_collection/tables/casual/gibson.html). Since I will have it the rest of my life it'd be a good investment.

I haven't seen Sarge since he came to UW a couple times for some exhibitions.

Jack Madden
11-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Todd
I have a friend and wife (long distance truckers), who are buying some property and house about 20-30 miles ne of Vancouver at the end of the month. I just built them three matching cues, told him I would try to get hold of Jackson (he know Jackson from Phx) to see where the best place to play is. But just thought you might help me help him with that.
Jack
www.johnmaddencues.com

AuntyDan
11-16-2006, 06:17 PM
In addition to all the other comments, if you play with the garage door open you may need to watch out for insects, especially ones that may want to actually join in the game (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=41825).

During flying ant season at one point I was vacuuming the table between every shot!

I have seen advertised a giant roll-up screen door for a garage that I am tempted to get for next summer.

Deadon
11-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Good question. Any ideas out there? I know about huge dehumidification units being in the industrial painting industry but not much about small home units. Does anyone else have specific units for their pool room in the garage?

Many years ago. I had a friend that had a nice table in his garage. I asked about the humity and temp also. My friend worked/repaired pianos. There is themal warmer, used mostly to stabilize pianos from those same factors, that is small and uses little voltage. He attached it to the bottom of the slates. Kept the table dry and temp consistent. I used one for awhile in my gun safe, which is in my garage, to control the mosture. They are not big, and were not very expensive, and they are intended for that purpose.

Just a thought, I think you can still find them.

cuejoey
11-16-2006, 06:54 PM
Good question. Any ideas out there? I know about huge dehumidification units being in the industrial painting industry but not much about small home units. Does anyone else have specific units for their pool room in the garage?
you can get a nice dehumidifer at Menards.get the largest capacity one.it will work more efficiently.also get one that has a digital reading.it will tell you the humidity level and then you can set it to the level you want.very easy to operate.....good luck

rackmsuckr
11-16-2006, 09:46 PM
We have a Diamond in our 3 car garage. Got pretty green carpet from Craig's list. Have 2 heaters but no humidifier/dehumidifier yet. This will be our first winter.

This summer, Mike liked playing with the garage doors open, but we live on a corner and I felt uncomfortable letting people see into my house, but he didn't care...didn't care about the bugs either.

The Diamond light centered itself perfectly between the 2 main garage doors and the garage door opener has electical outlets to plug in the light. Neither one of us has played hardly at all since Reno though. :(

jay helfert
11-16-2006, 10:32 PM
I will more than likely be purchasing a used 9ft Gold Crown III from our own "ajrack" as he has several in storage here in Vancouver.


Good choice of tables. Put some padding down under the carpet. It will be more comfortable when you play long sessions. Get a good cover for your table when you are not using it. It will help preserve and protect the rubber on those cold Washington nights.

If you use a gas heater, make sure it is vented properly. You don't want to have an accident. And be sure the area around it is clear, so there is no fire hazard. Better safe than sorry. Otherwise you are in good shape. Turn it off when you are done playing.

By the way, for a garage table setup, a shop style fluorescent fixture works great. You want the kind that takes two 8' (T96) tubes. It will provide all the light you need for a 9' table, and is not expensive. Hang it about 36" to 42" above the table. The edge of the fixture can be as low as 32" above the bed of the table. A couple of chains with eye hooks work fine to hold it. Make sure the chains and hooks are heavy duty. That fixture is not light.

I've done quite a few of these setups in garages. A double garage is usually great. About 20' x 20' or larger. You won't have a lot of room for storage around the playing area though. After you add barstools and stuff, you will find that you need all the space. If you keep it strictly a poolroom, you'll be fine.

And yes, the floor is probably canted slightly for drainage. But a good table mechanic should have no problem setting up your table nice and level.

One last thing, a small refrigerator packed with beer will fit in the corner. Have fun!

cuejoey
11-16-2006, 10:42 PM
In addition to all the other comments, if you play with the garage door open you may need to watch out for insects, especially ones that may want to actually join in the game (http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=41825).

During flying ant season at one point I was vacuuming the table between every shot!

I have seen advertised a giant roll-up screen door for a garage that I am tempted to get for next summer.
those with garage doors:Menards in the garage door dept.you can order a garage door screen which has zippers and velcro.very well made i have one.easy to install.then say goodbye to da bugs.:D

UWPoolGod1
11-16-2006, 11:51 PM
Yeah i am also planning to purchase one of those large diamond lights, or get one from Varney Cues reference from another thread. Waiting for a response from him. Tourney Used 51" wide diamond lights are $500 from the rep who emailed me.

jediphil
11-17-2006, 02:27 AM
my table is also in the garage i dont have a garage door as i dont bother putting the car in there.

it has a normal steel storage type door and a couple of windows

i live in the north of england so humidity is never really an issue LOL but at the moment cold is a problem as it seems to slow down the table and there is less bounce off the cushions.

you need to watch for condensatation - dont make it so airtight that this becomes an issue.

as for heat you can buy heating tubes which can be fitted to the sub frame of the table and heat the slate directly from underneath here is a link to a uk company just so you can see what they look like you will need 4 3 foot tubes

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=102502&ts=55427&id=51805

hope that helps

Hal
11-17-2006, 02:45 AM
Another main concern with a pool table in the garage is not to run over it with your vehicle. :D

Cue Crazy
11-17-2006, 07:41 AM
I use to spend alot of time on a small barbox that we have in a garage with 2 open sides. The only good thing I could say about it, was it helped me make ajustments better when out playing under different table and felt conditions. The conditions were constantly changing with the climate & humidity outside, and were more extreme then the differences in tables that were in climate controlled areas, so that made the ajustments seem easier. It was alot to deal with though, when cold It was cold;) , when hot it was hot, bugs were bad, so candles were burning and the bug zapper was drawing more into the area:D . When It rained or was foggy, the felt got damp, sometimes wet to the point you could see the the wet spots. I would'nt recomend a nice table in those conditions. I think we paid 100 bucks for ours. It was a good one piece slate table, with good rubber that just needed recovered, so we bought some felt and did it ourselves, probably only had 200 bucks into It. Still have the table, but I wore the rails slap out over the years, and what little time I have to play now days is spent on the 9 footers.;) :D My slope was'nt as bad, but I did still have to ajust the feet taller on one side of the table. I had one snag that required a shorty cue also, so a 2 car garage would have been alot nicer.

Greg

CaptainHook
11-17-2006, 07:44 AM
This thread really make me sad I sold my Table years ago.:(