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Gregg
11-21-2006, 10:39 AM
Ever bump into someone and ask them where their good cue is, and have them tell you their game isn't good enough for it? That they won't play with it until they are playing their best?

I mean, who wants to show up with an expensive custom, just to get smoked all over the pool table?

Should someone feel embarrassed to play poorly, even though they have the finest cue in the pool hall?

bigpocket
11-21-2006, 10:49 AM
Ever bump into someone and ask them where their good cue is, and have them tell you their game isn't good enough for it? That they won't play with it until they are playing their best?

I mean, who wants to show up with an expensive custom, just to get smoked all over the pool table?

Should someone feel embarrassed to play poorly, even though they have the finest cue in the pool hall?


LOL Greg it ok to shoot with your samsara.Just treat her good when your doing all that racking.;) ;)

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 10:55 AM
Ever bump into someone and ask them where their good cue is, and have them tell you their game isn't good enough for it? That they won't play with it until they are playing their best?

I mean, who wants to show up with an expensive custom, just to get smoked all over the pool table?

Should someone feel embarrassed to play poorly, even though they have the finest cue in the pool hall?


Whenever someone tells me they're too good for their cue, I tell them I'd be happy to fix that problem for them. Just give it to me.

Gregg
11-21-2006, 11:09 AM
LOL Greg it ok to shoot with your samsara.Just treat her good when your doing all that racking.;) ;)

Wait, that's not what I meant!:rolleyes:

I was talking about a friend who had this problem.

VIProfessor
11-21-2006, 11:16 AM
Hey Gregg,

Tell your friend that you can't play pool with the mindset of worrying about what other people are thinking. What your game is at any given point is simply what your game is. If you can narrow your focus down to what's going on at the table, to making the best choices, and to executing your shots with committment and relaxed concentration, you will be far ahead of the game.

The only thing that I can see about wanting to improve before using a particular stick is that it can provide a motivational goal. You can set some concrete achievable goal, such as running x amount of racks in eight ball or nine ball, or achieving a particular rating in your league. The promise of playing with a great cue as a reward could certainly induce you to put in the extra hours or to do the drills that you could never quite get around to doing regularly (you know what I mean!) Good luck! To your friend I mean.

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 11:18 AM
Hey bro,

You can't play pool with the mindset of worrying about what other people are thinking. What your game is at any given point is simply what your game is. If you can narrow your focus down to what's going on at the table, to making the best choices, and to executing your shots with committment and relaxed concentration, you will be far ahead of the game.

The only thing that I can see about wanting to improve before using a particular stick is that it can provide a motivational goal. You can set some concrete achievable goal, such as running x amount of racks in eight ball or nine ball, or achieving a particular rating in your league. The promise of playing with a great cue as a reward could certainly induce you to put in the extra hours or to do the drills that you could never quite get around to doing regularly (you know what I mean!) Good luck!


Um, thanks for the advice. Can I have your cue now?

BazookaJoe
11-21-2006, 11:21 AM
I don't know about good enough

But I do feel ............I'm too sexy for my cue. Too sexy for my cue.

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 11:23 AM
I don't know about good enough

But I do feel ............I'm too sexy for my cue. Too sexy for my cue.


I'm a poolplayer, you know what I mean and I do my little turn for the railbirds. For the railbirds, for the railbirds, yeah I do my little turn for the railbirds.

VIProfessor
11-21-2006, 11:30 AM
Um, thanks for the advice. Can I have your cue now?

As you can see from the edited version of the post, I responded to the wrong post initially. I wouldn't presume to give you such unsolicited advice given that you are obviously a highly skilled player. Sorry about the error--Dang! that's the second time that's happened with you.

Peace,
VIProfessor

CaptainHook
11-21-2006, 11:34 AM
I always have my Wal-mart Titanium cue with me during the week, so when I show up on the weekend with my Adams or my Palmer, everyone says.........Where's your cue? ya know the nice looking one:confused:

I think to myself....what the Hell:mad: ..everyone Loves that damn Wal-Mart Cue.:D

I'ts nothing special, a light grey color, veltex grip, SS joint.:confused:

The reason I play with it so much is, I keep it in the Car (car cue) so I have a decent cue I am used to for shooting at lunch time and or after work.

Who ever thought a 30 Dollar Wally World special would get so much attn.

Makes no sense.

But back to the original Post: Yes I can see where he is coming from when he says that. As I have said and done that in the past years ago.:)

I'm older and wiser now, tell him to get over it, take it and shoot with it as much as he can.:)

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 11:38 AM
As you can see from the edited version of the post, I responded to the wrong post initially. I wouldn't presume to give you such unsolicited advice given that you are obviously a highly skilled player. Sorry about the error--Dang! that's the second time that's happened with you.

Peace,
VIProfessor


Thanks for the clearing that up. Can I have your cue?

Gregg
11-21-2006, 11:44 AM
On a serious note, thanks for the advice. I have many problems, but concern about what someone thinks about my game/my cue is not one of them.

I just thought it would be fun to bring up.

Belive me you I rather be a bad shooter with a good cue than a bad shooter with a bad cue.

zeeder
11-21-2006, 11:52 AM
Hell, if the cost of your cue had to reflect your playing ability I'd be playing with a $30 Dufferin and not a Skip Weston/Edwin Reyes/Jim White costing much more!

It's kind of like what I saw someone else say on here a while back. At least I can lay the cue on the table for everyone to look at while I'm racking!

Cuebacca
11-21-2006, 12:38 PM
Ever bump into someone and ask them where their good cue is, and have them tell you their game isn't good enough for it? That they won't play with it until they are playing their best?

I mean, who wants to show up with an expensive custom, just to get smoked all over the pool table?

Should someone feel embarrassed to play poorly, even though they have the finest cue in the pool hall?

He only give up his nice custom cue when 90% of Lexus and Mecedes owners switch over to driving Ford Pintos and Chevy Chevettes. :D

Yeah, I say he should try not to care. He owns the cue for himself not for other people to approve of it. If anyone has anything bad to say about him using that cue, it only shows that they are jealous and trying to find an excuse to put him down to make themselves feel better.

If he likes pool and pool cues enough to buy that cue, that's all that matters. He bought it so he might as well either use it, sell it, or put it in a display case to use as a nice piece of artwork. Putting in the closet until he "gets better" seems like such a waste, IMO.

cueandcushion
11-21-2006, 02:37 PM
I have some pretty nice cues in my collection. I am in the bottom 10% of players on this board I bet. I like nice cues because of being a jeweler I appreciate the workmanship and quality of materials. I have players make little snide comments all the time. I just shake it off. They are mad my cues are nicer than theirs. I tell them if they ever get good enough to win some money at pool they can afford a nice cue too! I tell them to keep working on their game and they can have a cue that costs more than $100....someday.

(This always gets them pi**ed off since they gamble everyday...lol)

Yes, working in a pool hall 60 hrs a weeks gives you a strange sense of humor.

Ruthless
11-21-2006, 02:51 PM
He could always sell the cue and have a nice 50 point inlayed rack made, then use the rest of the $ for a case of kleenex to wipe his eyes with :)

bigskyjake
11-21-2006, 02:56 PM
if someone tells me my game is not good enough for my cue, i use one of two responses

1: (Ali G voice) "is you a bit jealous"

2: "hate on M##### #####R"

jake

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 02:57 PM
He could always sell the cue and have a nice 50 point inlayed rack made, then use the rest of the $ for a case of kleenex to wipe his eyes with :)


That brings up an interesting point! Should losing players who happen to be great pool enthusiasts carry custom-made racks? I mean, where is their time spent? Which are they going to handle more?

Stones
11-21-2006, 02:57 PM
This post brings up some memories.

It used to amaze me when I was out on the road and would walk into a pool room only to have guys run up and say, " You wanna play some 9 ball, cheap?"

I'd say sure and head off to their favorite table. When I would open my case up and pull out my Schon or Joss West, they'd go bug eyed and start back peddling by saying, "We can't play cuz if you got cues like that, you gotta play great!"

After about the tenth time that happened, I started carrying a $60 sneaky pete with me. Never had that problem again.

I made ten times the money with that sneaky pete over the years than any other cue I ever owned.

Still amazes me that some guys equate playing ability to how expensive your cue is!

Ruthless
11-21-2006, 03:03 PM
A 5/16 x 18 Pred shaft fits those $5 Budweiser cues very well :)

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 03:05 PM
A 5/16 x 18 Pred shaft fits those $5 Budweiser cues very well :)


Yes but how well does the Predator shaft work as a bottle-opener? I mean, has anyone considered that perhaps the Predator 314 might not be good for this?

Stones
11-21-2006, 03:13 PM
That brings up an interesting point! Should losing players who happen to be great pool enthusiasts carry custom-made racks? I mean, where is their time spent? Which are they going to handle more?

Whenever I got some smart a** sharking me while I'm playing him and I happen to lose one game, I would go down and start racking the balls, stop, and look up and say, "You mind coming down here and show me how to do this again since I don't got down here very often?"

One year for Christmas presents for my good pool playing friends, I got nice wooden racks with their names engraved on brass plaques. Everyone got a big laugh out of that.

MattRDavis
11-21-2006, 03:18 PM
Bah! This is all irrelevant. Just move out here to the boondocks with me and nobody will ever pay attention to your cue.

99% of the places you go here, including pool halls, if you were to pull the finest Tascarella, Hercek, etc. out of your case this is the response you would be met with:

"Nice cue, bro. I have one just like that at home, 'cept its fiberglass." The offender would then release a sly smile in the comfort of having cornered you with his totally awesome oneupsmanship.

-Matt

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 03:22 PM
"You mind coming down here and show me how to do this again since I don't got down here very often?"


I had to read this twice. I'm very glad this was about pool. This is a family forum, you know.

Stones
11-21-2006, 03:41 PM
I had to read this twice. I'm very glad this was about pool. This is a family forum, you know.
LOL. Now that I reread it with my mind in the gutter. LOL

suckershot
11-21-2006, 05:00 PM
I am in the bottom 10% of players on this board I bet.

Me too! Heck, the bottom 10% might even be pushing it.


Getting back on topic, I don't understand that perception, that if you have a nice cue, you should play good. Having a nice cue because you appreciate nice looking cues, or because you like nice things in general, is enough reason for me.

If skill was the determinant, I would be playing with Cuetec. But I'll stick to my Rick Howard, thanks. ;)

Gregg
11-21-2006, 05:54 PM
I learned a long time ago two very valuable lessons about pool;

You don't have to be a good pool player to collect cues;

You don't have to be a good pool player to gamble money on pool games.

DawgAndy
11-21-2006, 08:24 PM
I've never lived up to my cues ability:D The great thing is you can still appreciate their potential. A friend of mine commented once after I said I couldn't justify having a $1k cue, 'Hell you don't have to fill out an application, just pull out the cash'. Now I have less cues but each one makes me smile for one reason or another.

MattRDavis, I know where you 're coming from Bro, If it ain't a Meucci it ain't sh#t in these parts.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone

Andy
Gonna go stare at my cues for awhile, heck might even play some too

Jude Rosenstock
11-21-2006, 08:39 PM
I've never lived up to my cues ability:D The great thing is you can still appreciate their potential. A friend of mine commented once after I said I couldn't justify having a $1k cue, 'Hell you don't have to fill out an application, just pull out the cash'. Now I have less cues but each one makes me smile for one reason or another.

MattRDavis, I know where you 're coming from Bro, If it ain't a Meucci it ain't sh#t in these parts.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone

Andy
Gonna go stare at my cues for awhile, heck might even play some too


Can I have your cue then?


Ok ok, seriously! It's sports equipment. Personally, I don't think some professionals should be walking around with $5k cues. Do you want to know who deserves to have such merchandise? Those that can afford it. I use a simple P2. Why, you ask? Because I feel no need to get the custom-made Southwest with granite points, birdseye maple sleeve, obsidian inlays, ivory ferrel and ebony butt-cap just yet. When I win the WSOP, I'll give them a call.

StormHotRod300
11-21-2006, 11:02 PM
Back in Feb of 2000, I got the pool bug, after seeing a exhibition done by Ewa Laurance. And by the end of the week i had bought me a nice Schon LTD that cost me 700$, retail was 1000$.

Yet i could hardly make 2 balls in a row. But I had a 1000$ cue lol.

And I remember i would walk into a pool hall thinking i was big and bad, cuz i had a 1000$ cue. Boy did i find out i was wrong wrong wrong.

And even when i started to get better and was able to beat most players, and i would see new players come in and play, and would notice they had a ncie custom cue, i would give the sly remark, WTF are they doing with a nice azz custom cue when they cant run 4 balls if thier life depended on it?

Now i just dont care! I figure i'll just beat them and they can stand thier with thier nice cue looking all pretty, while i take thier money! lol

trueblu8
11-21-2006, 11:21 PM
Bah! This is all irrelevant. Just move out here to the boondocks with me and nobody will ever pay attention to your cue.

99% of the places you go here, including pool halls, if you were to pull the finest Tascarella, Hercek, etc. out of your case this is the response you would be met with:

"Nice cue, bro. I have one just like that at home, 'cept its fiberglass." The offender would then release a sly smile in the comfort of having cornered you with his totally awesome oneupsmanship.

-Matt
Dude, that's hilarious, lol! I especially liked your choice of vocabulary: "the offender", and "sly smile". I swear you could pursue a career as a professional writer!

Matt90
11-22-2006, 01:04 AM
Ok heres the story , I started playing agian last year probably around the 1st of summer . I quit playing when I was 20 and I am 36 now (another long story) After playing a few weeks I went and bought a vicking which I liked alot . Then one night I met a guy at the pool room who told me about Chris Hightower and Hightower cues . I checked out his website and there was one cue on there that I really liked . As fate would have it I run a big screen tv shop and was given a 60"HDTV the following weekend . I sold it to a friend for the same price as the cue and went way out in parts of Georgia this Carolina boy had never been and bought that cue from Chris . I bought the cue cause
I wanted it .If it had anything to do with my game I may have just stuck with the vicking and wore the shaft out .I play alot better than I did a year ago and I hope one day my game will live up to my equipment . :D I also have
a Meucci original sneaky pete I got from ebay .The Meucci hits real good and
if I do not want people eyeballing my cue I play with it . What can I say I am addicted to this game ,the cues, the stories......etc.. So I will keep at it
but it does kinda feel funny getting beat by a guy with a house cue LOL

pwd72s
11-22-2006, 01:17 AM
To argue the flipside...should one not buy a Porsche unless he can drive like Hurley Haywood? The market for custom cue makers would be awfully slim if only top pros bought them.

DawgAndy
11-22-2006, 04:09 AM
Jude
I don't think you'd like my cues. Saving up the money to buy them is part of the fun for me.

Andy

Gerry
11-22-2006, 05:03 AM
To argue the flip side...should one not buy a Porsche unless he can drive like Hurley Haywood? The market for custom cue makers would be awfully slim if only top pros bought them.


YES, but on the flipidity flip side, ...who would name their kid "Hurley Haywood"?...j/k

I had an experience like these early on. I bought a Black Boar before I could even rack correctly!....what the hell, they were selling them at 1/2 price:eek: yea I know, I should have bought em all, but hey, I've always been an idiot! SO, I'm practicing with my new $1400/$700 beauty and one of the best players in the northeast walks up asking me to play some. I said sure, and proceeded to miss a few balls while He ran about 87348764 racks on me. Then mid stroke He pulls up and said....you can play now, and quit all that stalling!...I was like ....HUH? whaddaya mean? He said anyone with a cue like that HAS to be able to play!:D

After I stopped laughing, and explained that I really do suck! He showed me a few things....I think He just wanted to keep hitting balls with my killer Boar;)

Funny thing was He didn't ask to play for cash in the beginning because of the cue, and figured I was a road agent. Again I laughed, and told him I was gonna pay $1000 for the cue, but only had to pay $700, so He could have won a few hundred!.....I love that blank stare you get from people when they wanna just slap themselves on the forehead!

Gerry

pwd72s
11-22-2006, 12:53 PM
Funny story Gerry. I get some of that when I would play with the Palmer a friend talked me into buying many years ago...a Model M, 2nd catalog. You see, he was really into pool, and could get a great deal if he bought two...$125 with 2 shafts & case. So really, I bought it as a favor to him.
I still have the cue, though I seldom play with it. The unwanted attention thing, plus...to be honest...my entry level plain jane jacoby has a much sweeter hit. The old Plamer, a revered collectable, may have been nice in it's day, but it hits like playing with a length of rebar.

Wh would name their kid Hurley? I guess the parents of the guy who has won Lemans several times, and the 24 hours of Daytona more times than anybody. In the world of endurance sports car racing, Hurley is the driver equivalent to say, Reyes, Strickland, etc.