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Williebetmore
03-06-2007, 04:08 PM
Planning for the first annual Columbus-Indy Straight Pool League Challenge is now underway. Mthornto and I are putting together a challenge match between the best 4 players from our Indianapolis straight pool league and the best 4 players from the Columbus, Ohio straight pool league.

We could use suggestions for the name of the match, prizes, format, etc.

We are thinking of having the #1 and #2 players from each league play a round robin (2 matches for each player); and having the #3 and #4 players do the same. Match would be decided by total wins; with ball count as the tiebreaker if needed.

We are thinking of having each man kick in $50, pot to be split by the winning team.

This first year we will host the match here in Indy (Saturday, May 5th in case you guys with network television are interested....it should be AT LEAST as interesting as speed pool).

Gerry
03-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Man that sounds fun! hey, maybe put each teams names in 2 hats and let #1 pick, then #1 from other team etc. Might make for some interesting match ups.

Maybe have a high run pot, or best per inning average.

You all might be starting something great there. Nothing like a good grudge match!

Gerry

fade
03-07-2007, 11:22 AM
Where is the match going to be played?

Tom In Cincy
03-07-2007, 03:36 PM
We did a challenge match with Columbus OH back in the late 90s.

We took our top 8 players from our 14.1 league (Cincinnati Straight Pool League) and matched up with the Columbus playes.. we met at a very nice pool hall (forgotten the name) and played from noon until very late that nite.

We won by just a few points (all the balls made by each player were added up and it was very close)

what is the interstate between Indy and Columbus? is it 70? if so the matchup could be be the I70 14.1 clash. Indy vrs Columbus.

sjm
03-07-2007, 07:56 PM
How about calling this the battle for the Old Oaken Bucket? That's something to do with a Big Ten rivalry if memory serves.

bruin70
03-07-2007, 08:03 PM
How about calling this the battle for the Old Oaken Bucket? That's something to do with a Big Ten rivalry if memory serves.

that's the boilermakers vs. hoosiers, sjm.
osu vs. indiana?,,,i don't know

StraightPoolIU
03-07-2007, 08:05 PM
How about calling this the battle for the Old Oaken Bucket? That's something to do with a Big Ten rivalry if memory serves.

Goodness, if Indiana has to play that team from Columbus for the Old Oaken Bucket I may not see them win it in my life time. At least against Purdue we have a shot every decade or so. But in general I like where you're going with the idea, though I give the Indy guys a slightly better chance than I give IU in any game against Ohio State.

Tommy Tube Sock
03-07-2007, 08:07 PM
How about calling this the battle for the Old Oaken Bucket? That's something to do with a Big Ten rivalry if memory serves.

Oaken Bucket is IU v Purdue - I'm an Indiana native, rooting for Betmore!

sjm
03-07-2007, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the education, guys. I'll be happy to field any Big East questions.

bruin70
03-07-2007, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the education, guys. I'll be happy to field any Big East questions.

did jarvis spell the end of st. john's basketball?

bruin70
03-07-2007, 08:52 PM
Thanks for the education, guys. I'll be happy to field any Big East questions.
who's your favorite LEGIT(pre expansion) big east guard of all time?

mine's dave bing.

sjm
03-07-2007, 09:13 PM
who's your favorite LEGIT(pre expansion) big east guard of all time?

mine's dave bing.

Now you're hijacking the thread, sir. Still, I'll answer your two questions.

1. Jarvis, despite coaching the last really good St Johns team with Ron Artest and Zendon Hamilton, brought the program's dignity down a notch. In paritcular, the Eric Barkely eligibility crisis really made the school look bad when Carnesecca and Lapchck had made them look good for well over 40 years. I had hoped for better, as Jarvis did a pretty good job when he coach George Washington University.

2. Dave Bing? I think he was already an NBA hall-of-famer when the Big East was formed in 1980. My favorite guard in the Big East was probably Eric"Sleepy" Floyd of Georgetown in the early 1980's.

Now let's get back on topic.

In 14.1, who's got the juice, the folks form Indiana or the ones form Ohio?

bruin70
03-07-2007, 09:35 PM
Now you're hijacking the thread, sir.

In 14.1, who's got the juice, the folks form Indiana or the ones form Ohio?

And the highwayman came riding-
Riding-riding-

the hoosiers have the breedloves....it's a lock, especially if the format is husband/wife.

bruin70
03-08-2007, 07:08 AM
Now you're hijacking the thread, sir. Still, I'll answer your two questions.


2. Dave Bing? I think he was already an NBA hall-of-famer when the Big East was formed in 1980.

my bad. was not thinking of when.

Williebetmore
03-08-2007, 07:52 AM
Thanks for the ideas guys. I like the "I-70 Straight Pool Challenge." Maybe we can broaden it over to St. Louis and Kansas City in the future.

We're hopeful that our league team will be sandianakid (IPT player, AZB poster), J. Lee (yahh, we'll let girls play; plus she lurks here), K. Baker, and Williebetmore...heavy on AZB'ers (but easy to figure out who is the weak link on the team).

Mthornto is in charge of the Columbus team; you'll have to ask him about their chances.

P.S. - Chris Mullin was the best Big East guard (you guys who disagree must be on drugs). I would have said Louis Orr - but I think he really just caught one year (the first???) of Big East action.

mthornto
03-08-2007, 08:50 AM
Mthornto is in charge of the Columbus team; you'll have to ask him about their chances.


Well, the Columbus team is defiantly the underdogs in this fight, but I am bringing some dogs with no quit.

I will stick with Willie’s first initial last name standard. From Columbus I am bringing S. Hawley, R. Butchko, C. Fisher, and myself. Ranking by skill within out league, Hawley and Butchko are our two best players, Fisher is 5th, and I am 9th. No pros in our group.

Basically, we are all bangers that can’t run “three friggin balls” so I advise the Indy team to spend the night before getting fall down drunk, take us very lightly, and making a party of the whole thing

Williebetmore
03-08-2007, 09:00 AM
....so I advise the Indy team to spend the night before getting fall down drunk, take us very lightly, and making a party of the whole thing

mt,
So what you are saying is we should not deviate from our usual training regimen????

P.S. - I think mt won his league in the past - definitely some sandbagging going on here.

mthornto
03-08-2007, 09:25 AM
P.S. - I think mt won his league in the past - definitely some sandbagging going on here.

Yea, but it was handicapped, so I was getting spotted like 80 balls in matches to 100.

Without handicaps, I am pretty much right in th middle skill wise in the league.

Williebetmore
03-08-2007, 09:37 AM
I guess we have decided to have a trophy cup for the winning side. Any thoughts as to what we should call it????


? Mosconi Cup ? (sounds vaguely familiar)
? Betmore Cup? (never hurts to maximize our sense of self-importance)
? Breakup Cup? (nahh, no one would want it...fears of dysentery linger)
? Keogh Cup ? (after the inventor of straight pool - I like it)
? Drivermaker Cup ?

I'm ambivalent.

Williebetmore
03-08-2007, 09:53 AM
If the trophy must be named for a dead guy; how about the "Famous Dead Guy Who Accomplished More Than We Did (in a lot less time)" Trophy???

StraightPoolIU
03-08-2007, 11:37 AM
The Mizerak Cup? If you're looking to name it after a late great champion of straight pool there you go. However, maybe it should be something that speaks more to the midwest roots of this challenge match.

Williebetmore
04-30-2007, 09:21 AM
Well, it's on. This Saturday at Chalkies in Indy, matches start at 3 PM (I'm not sure there will be network coverage, so interested spectators should just plan on attending).

Indy team = Jeanette Lee, Jeff Beckley, Don Wardell, Bob Planalp.

Columbus team = Mike Thornton, ?, ?, and ?.

Good luck to the Columbus Ohio team - it should be a very nice competition.

JoeW
04-30-2007, 09:57 AM
I like the I-70 14.1 Challenge (Columbus vs. Indianapolis) -- has a ring to it and can be used else where, I-66 14.1 Challenge etc. Later on there could be the Interstate Championship between two cites that have "won" a challenge -- hey you might have something there.

If its a "team" thing then I would suggest total points as the deciding factor for the Challenge. This might include awards for high run, most fouls, and the list goes on.

Definitely need a cup that can be paraded around the room and stored for bragging rights. I’d keep it a little light. The seriousness will build. I vote for The Mizerak Cup.

Williebetmore
05-01-2007, 11:50 AM
I like the I-70 14.1 Challenge (Columbus vs. Indianapolis) -- has a ring to it and can be used else where, I-66 14.1 Challenge etc. Later on there could be the Interstate Championship between two cites that have "won" a challenge -- hey you might have something there.

If its a "team" thing then I would suggest total points as the deciding factor for the Challenge. This might include awards for high run, most fouls, and the list goes on.

Definitely need a cup that can be paraded around the room and stored for bragging rights. I’d keep it a little light. The seriousness will build. I vote for The Mizerak Cup.

Joe,
We have decided to kick in $50 per man, the cash goes to the winning team. Winner to be determined by # of match wins (with ball count as the tiebreaker).

We will have a high run prize of $20.

I hope to have the trophy ready by Saturday ("I-70 Straight Pool Challenge, C'bus, Ohio vs. Indianoplace").

We will have a door prize of a world famous "Joe W Portable Counter"; which was VERY GRACIOUSLY DONATED by the renowned JoeW. Many thanks.

mthornto
05-04-2007, 12:32 PM
Heading out in the morning for the big event. Everybody is very excited. Hopefully, we will make this an annual thing - next year: realtime streaming video.


BTW, please, wish us Columbus guys luck. Being pro-less we are going to need it!

steev
05-04-2007, 12:55 PM
I'll be coming by Chalkie's with a couple of friends tomorrow evening/night (we'll see when my tournament ends), see you there. Someone save a game of 14.1 for me.

mthornto: they ARE going to spot you a ball or two, aren't they? I mean, pro's vs. joe's is gonna want that footage.

-s

Williebetmore
05-04-2007, 01:56 PM
I'll be coming by Chalkie's with a couple of friends tomorrow evening/night (we'll see when my tournament ends), see you there. Someone save a game of 14.1 for me.

mthornto: they ARE going to spot you a ball or two, aren't they? I mean, pro's vs. joe's is gonna want that footage.

-s

Steev,
You are insulting them by suggesting a handicap. "They don't need no stinking handicap." I will apologize to them for your ridiculous idea...I hope they will forgive you.

P.S. - Now if they want to give us a bit of a spot, I'm not too proud to take it.

mthornto
05-04-2007, 04:59 PM
mthornto: they ARE going to spot you a ball or two, aren't they? I mean, pro's vs. joe's is gonna want that footage.

-s

The best I can hope for is a spot of tea!