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Dan White
03-25-2007, 05:38 PM
I've heard Bruin mention how he likes to open the pack like a flower on more than one occasion. He recently mentioned it again as setting up for a Johnny Ervolino type break on a top ball in the pack. I wasn't sure what angle the should can be approached to make the pack open up the best. I've made three possibilities on a Wei table. Are one of these (A, B or blank cue ball) what you had in mind?

http://CueTable.com/P/?@3ABik4BBJk4CDvP4DFCf4ECYf3FCxe3GLFW3HAMB3IAUe3JF bd3KCxA3LFqN3MEMO4NHeN4OCYA3PHDC4QIqJ3RONP3bLFW3bY va3gFqN3gVtG4iHeN4iadX3kHDC3kDdw3kByS4lIqJ4lFhy4lC gU3mONP3mJaJ3mELe@

Thanks,
dwhite

bruin70
03-25-2007, 06:57 PM
mine is the filled balls. ervolino used the outlined balls a lot.

Dan White
03-25-2007, 08:48 PM
mine is the filled balls. ervolino used the outlined balls a lot.


OK, so it looks like you want to pop right down on the top of the first ball, rather than coming into it at an angle from the side. I'll have to play around with that one. Thanks!

dwhite

bruin70
03-26-2007, 05:47 AM
that's only if the cb hits the head ball pretty flush or so. if it hits more to the side of the head ball, you always have to be cognizant of the scratch in the bottom side.

dmgwalsh
03-26-2007, 09:26 AM
mine is the filled balls. ervolino used the outlined balls a lot.

Isn't Ervolino's going to hit down a ball from yours?

High english?

bruin70
03-26-2007, 09:53 AM
Isn't Ervolino's going to hit down a ball from yours?

High english?

yes, it was lower. i showed it too high.

Blackjack
03-26-2007, 10:25 AM
Great shot, Bruin! I will try this one later today.

bruin70
03-26-2007, 11:33 AM
this is a very controlable shot because you don't need to muscle it.

mjantti
03-28-2007, 04:35 PM
Good shot bruin. I've always liked break shots near the pack in an angle that the cueball will hit one of the top two balls. I can control the cueball easily and I feel that I hardly ever get stuck in the rack. Also a very nice way to break the rack open especially if the balls aren't spreading open too well.

Edit: you make an excellent point in saying that you don't need to muscle it. I don't like shooting break shots too hard.

lfigueroa
03-28-2007, 07:20 PM
mine is the filled balls. ervolino used the outlined balls a lot.


There's a potential scratch cross-side, or even straight into the right side pocket. A touch of inside english is good on this one, IMO.

Lou Figueroa

bruin70
03-28-2007, 08:18 PM
There's a potential scratch cross-side, or even straight into the right side pocket. A touch of inside english is good on this one, IMO.

Lou Figueroa

not on this particular layout. the cb goes almost directly into the head ball. yes if it hits the side and launches into the rail.

lfigueroa
03-29-2007, 05:15 AM
not on this particular layout. the cb goes almost directly into the head ball. yes if it hits the side and launches into the rail.

Well, in my experience, if you hit this one a tad too hard, there is a potential scratch. But I suppose if you always 100%n of the time hit it absolutely perfect there isn't :-)

Lou Figueroa