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Irish634
05-09-2007, 06:15 AM
I know this has been covered before but I have been through about 35 pages of threads and can't seem to locate it.

Which wrap do you prefer? Or do you prefer no wrap? And why? This is for your playing cue BTW

FWIW... I am having a custom built and I have already decided on no wrap. I have always had linen, but seem to like the cues without a wrap that I have tried.

Thanks for the input.
Craig

Varney Cues
05-09-2007, 06:20 AM
I prefer a wood handle as it sticks in my hand better and I can hold it looser with better control. With linen it seems I have to squeeze the butt more to control the cue...the tighter grip tends to hurt my accuracy & cueball action. Believe it or not...I truly believe Bob Meucci was on to something by clearing over the wraps.;)

chefjeff
05-09-2007, 06:34 AM
I prefer a wood handle as it sticks in my hand better and I can hold it looser with better control. With linen it seems I have to squeeze the butt more to control the cue...the tighter grip tends to hurt my accuracy & cueball action. Believe it or not...I truly believe Bob Meucci was on to something by clearing over the wraps.;)

I never thought about it that way...interesting.

I, too, use a wrapless cue (314 SP) but was having problems of unconsciously moving my grip forward over time, thus negatively affecting my stroke.

So, I took some scotch tape and wrapped it around the butt where the linen would start and use that as a guidepost for my grip position. Looks stupid but it works....and looking stupid has its advantages sometimes.;)

On the other hand, my teammate had his new SP 314 worked on and had 'em put a wrap put on it. He could've simply bought one that way but didn't for some unknown reason.

Jeff Livingston

PKM
05-09-2007, 06:44 AM
I like the irish linen, in case my hand sweats a little. Also I like to have it to guide my grip hand to the same place.

I don't see why it would necessitate a tighter grip, my grip is quite loose.

Hail Mary Shot
05-09-2007, 06:49 AM
try the newspaper wrap on Efren's cue ! :D

Cue Freak
05-09-2007, 07:16 AM
I have no preference, I like linen, leather and wrapless. I haven't tried cork or stacked leather. The only thing with a wrap is that it gets dirty but that has nothing to do with shooting with it :D

Pushout
05-09-2007, 07:23 AM
I've only had two cues with leather wraps and wasn't crazy about them. All the rest were Irish linen, pressed if possible. I'm looking forward to trying wrapless some time in the near future.

Snapshot9
05-09-2007, 07:50 AM
I have no preference, I like linen, leather and wrapless. I haven't tried cork or stacked leather. The only thing with a wrap is that it gets dirty but that has nothing to do with shooting with it :D


I am about exactly like you on this. The poll should have allowed for multiple choices instead of just one. My Dad, who started out as an auto painter and owned a good sized Body Shop when I was little always told me to never buy a light colored car if I wanted that car to look good after it was 5-6-7 years old, which is exactly true, darker colors in cars stand up better over time.

I kind of carry that over to many things, including wraps on cues. I don't care for light colored wraps, they get real dingy over time, but I am not necessarily a black with white spec man either (Thinks cuemakers should have more imagination instead of just putting same-o same-o on their cues).

Irish634
05-09-2007, 07:54 AM
I am about exactly like you on this. The poll should have allowed for multiple choices instead of just one. My Dad, who started out as an auto painter and owned a good sized Body Shop when I was little always told me to never buy a light colored car if I wanted that car to look good after it was 5-6-7 years old, which is exactly true, darker colors in cars stand up better over time.

I kind of carry that over to many things, including wraps on cues. I don't care for light colored wraps, they get real dingy over time, but I am not necessarily a black with white spec man either (Thinks cuemakers should have more imagination instead of just putting same-o same-o on their cues).


Thanks for answering.... My apologies for not allowing two choices.
Perhaps I could have had an option for "no preference". Oh well.

Thanks again for your input.
Craig

Craig Fales
05-09-2007, 08:01 AM
Nothing beats leather for my dry hands...

iralee
05-09-2007, 08:26 AM
I know this has been covered before but I have been through about 35 pages of threads and can't seem to locate it.

Which wrap do you prefer? Or do you prefer no wrap? And why? This is for your playing cue BTW

FWIW... I am having a custom built and I have already decided on no wrap. I have always had linen, but seem to like the cues without a wrap that I have tried.

Thanks for the input.
Craig


What about rubber wraps? Most all of the carom players that I know use a rubber or rubberized-foam wrap.

-Ira

ridewiththewind
05-09-2007, 08:51 AM
I never thought about it that way...interesting.

I, too, use a wrapless cue (314 SP) but was having problems of unconsciously moving my grip forward over time, thus negatively affecting my stroke.

So, I took some scotch tape and wrapped it around the butt where the linen would start and use that as a guidepost for my grip position. Looks stupid but it works....and looking stupid has its advantages sometimes.;)

On the other hand, my teammate had his new SP 314 worked on and had 'em put a wrap put on it. He could've simply bought one that way but didn't for some unknown reason.

Jeff Livingston


You can try using some Dr Zog's Sex Wax (surfers' wax) in the grip area of the handle...it will tack it up just enough to allow for your grip hand from travelling, but will look better than the tape.

I am a huge wrapless fan now as well....doubt if I will ever go back. I have not found a problem with my grip hand travelling on it's own. There are times when I feel that I need to be further up on the wrap area.

The reason I am a fan of wrapless now is because there is nothing to distract from the task at hand. Used to drive me a bit nuts when I needed to be further back on the wrap area and would hit that area between wrap and butt.

I am lucky in that I do not sweat in my hands while playing, so a wrap is not necessary for me. If it is particularly warm or humid, I have a towel I will wipe my hands off with...but it usually not an issue.

Lisa

Koopa
05-09-2007, 09:33 AM
Irish Linen. I hate the feel of leather and I like to let my back had slide around a bit on the wrap so wrapless is out.

Andrew Manning
05-09-2007, 09:47 AM
I prefer Irish linen but only because it's what I'm used to. I'm sure I could get used to a different wrap if I had one. I think the wrap's most important function is comfort (I've never had a cue slip unintentionally in my hand; so I don't think the friction is really that relevant), and comfort has a lot to do with familiarity.

-Andrew

Bob Jewett
05-09-2007, 10:09 AM
... Which wrap do you prefer? Or do you prefer no wrap? And why? This is for your playing cue BTW ...
You forgot rubber. Top carom players pretty much all use rubber. Of course, if you want your hand to slip on the grip, linen is good, but the carom players seem to want to be able to have the stick secure without a lot of paralyzing grip force.

chilli66
05-09-2007, 10:51 AM
Give me wrapless any day. After using snooker cues for everything back in the UK I bought my first cue with a wrap here last year. I found it irritating at times, so when I ordered my Dominiak I went for wrapless & much prefer that. I guess it helps that it's a great cue too!:D

cigardave
05-09-2007, 11:19 AM
Wrapless for me as well.

And on a custom cue, wrapless opens up the possibility of putting exotic woods in the grip section of the cue... to show off... and basically, to help beautify the cue. I have Thulya Burl in the grip section of mine.

Avenger
05-09-2007, 11:58 AM
I definitely like a no wrap cue. Like CigarDave posted it can enhance the looks of the cue. However there is more than one way to finish Irish Linen on a cue. Many cues that are doubled pressed feel almost like a no wrap cue.

desi2960
05-09-2007, 12:46 PM
just in case you missed my answer in the other threads, the only thing a wrap does is hide a ugly piece of wood.

cbi1000
05-09-2007, 06:00 PM
I prefer a wood handle as it sticks in my hand better and I can hold it looser with better control. With linen it seems I have to squeeze the butt more to control the cue...the tighter grip tends to hurt my accuracy & cueball action. Believe it or not...I truly believe Bob Meucci was on to something by clearing over the wraps.;)


I feal the same way

robertno1pool
05-09-2007, 06:09 PM
There are some options similar to no wrap. I have a python skin wrapped cue that is covered overtop with clear coat. Just like a wood finished handle - but snake skin underneath.

"I am sure this was a pre-ban or mammoth python skin."

chefjeff
05-10-2007, 08:03 AM
You can try using some Dr Zog's Sex Wax (surfers' wax) in the grip area of the handle...it will tack it up just enough to allow for your grip hand from travelling, but will look better than the tape.
(snip)
Lisa

While I'm sure I can find some sex wax in Iowa, I'm not so sure about surfer's wax...the ocean is a little ways away from here, don't ya know.:p

Perhaps a little udder ointment would work?

Jeff Livingston

PoolSponge
05-10-2007, 08:43 AM
I just had a stack leather wrap put on my player. I love it. I have used linen wraps in the past. I find some leather makes my hand sweat which it normally doesn't. I have only used one wrapless and it was fine. The stack is still my personal favourite.