PDA

View Full Version : possible scam ? please help


Big Business
05-16-2007, 11:17 AM
here is what someone sent me in an email to purchase something from me but sound fishy and I thought there was a warning about fake money orders etc.

"Hello Sean,
Thanks for the reply and the rates given.I will pay you $900 but payment is going to be made through an overdraft international money order which is going to be issued to you in your name.As soon as you recieve the money order you take it to your bank and cash it,then you deduct your $900 from it and help me send the remaining money via western union to the person that will come for the pick up of the bike.I don't mind giving you extra $50 for your running around and keeping it pending on when the person will come and pick
it up.Now kindly get bck to me with your full contact details below so that the money order can be issued out asap

Your real name.........
Street address...........
City...............
Province..............
Postal code............
Your phone number.............
Awaiting your response ASAP today so that i can know what to do."

Let me know what your opinions are regarding this email and I thank you in advance.

Sean

Ant812
05-16-2007, 11:20 AM
scam, an old one at that. from what i understand, the bank that you cash the check from will come back to you for money after the check gets back to its originating country and bounces....or something like that.

taylor9ball
05-16-2007, 11:21 AM
It's a scam Sean. Delete, delete, delete.

Endymion
05-16-2007, 11:48 AM
Really, you must have already known that it was a scam, right? Just interested in the type probably?

Please please tell me that you knew that was a scam from the word go.

Gunn_Slinger
05-16-2007, 11:55 AM
When we put the pool table for sale in the paper and craigs list we received two of these offers within 24 hours of ads being placed.
We kinda thought we'd dick with them for a bit, so we thanked them for their offer and since it was so kind of them we would let the FBI read their offer.
We never heard from either person again.
enjoy the day
mrs.g

ccn7
05-16-2007, 12:24 PM
A good way to check it out is have the bank hold the check until it clears, let the party know what your doing and see what reaction you get. I'd bet its just a scam..

i sell pure breed Boston Terriers, and this scam was laid upon me a few times. Once i told the buyer i would have the bank hold the check until it cleared never heard back from them again. I wouldnt have sold to them anyways as i dont ship my dogs. They were gona send me a check for 5000.00 i cash it send them a check for 2000.00 and keep 3000.00 for myself..

Usually if it sounds to good to be true, its not true..Be careful.

Big Business
05-16-2007, 12:25 PM
Thanks to all and I thought so. Take care.

Sean

jay helfert
05-16-2007, 12:30 PM
Had a car online for sale, and got a similar offer of $14,000. The guy sent me a bank draft (bank money order) drawn on a bank in Arizona. He said his friend was coming to pick up the car the same day that I got the check. I agreed to this deal, but went to my bank instead and they called the issuing bank and discovered it was a phoney check.

If I had just deposited the very real looking check I would have been burned for a very nice car (a 1998 Jag XJR), with little recourse. He called me later that day to arrange the pick up, and I told him the check bounced and I needed cash now. He hung up! I still have this check in my files. I did report it to the police, and sent them all my e-mail records and the guy's name and phone number in Arizona (got if off caller I.D.). I've never heard another thing about it, and it's over six months ago. I sold the car to a legit buyer two weeks later.

Russ Chewning
05-16-2007, 12:41 PM
Had a car online for sale, and got a similar offer of $14,000. The guy sent me a bank draft (bank money order) drawn on a bank in Arizona. He said his friend was coming to pick up the car the same day that I got the check. I agreed to this deal, but went to my bank instead and they called the issuing bank and discovered it was a phoney check.

If I had just deposited the very real looking check I would have been burned for a very nice car (a 1998 Jag XJR), with little recourse. He called me later that day to arrange the pick up, and I told him the check bounced and I needed cash now. He hung up! I still have this check in my files. I did report it to the police, and sent them all my e-mail records and the guy's name and phone number in Arizona (got if off caller I.D.). I've never heard another thing about it, and it's over six months ago. I sold the car to a legit buyer two weeks later.

I wouldn't have said anything about the check bouncing, and I would have had the police waiting for the guy when he picked up the car..

Why'd you let him get away, Jay?

Russ

Bishop
05-16-2007, 12:47 PM
I was thinking the same thing. lol shouldn't have let him off the hook.

Hail Mary Shot
05-16-2007, 12:51 PM
He should have send it via WESTERN UNION in the first place. since Western Union asks for the same details of whom they will send it to. he could have just easily transferred the money from his bank account to Western Union on which you would receive the said amount. this is kinda dumbfounding and illogical that this person doesn't know this procedure, considering that person mentioned Western Union and having a personal cheque. have the guy send you the cheque and have the FBI evaluate it. it would be nice to see whether this guy is a fraud or not. if it's a fraud, then atleast that is one bad guy being sent to the showers. but if not, well let's say that is one heck of an honest customer.

mmwtdh
05-16-2007, 12:57 PM
Here is a website about some of those type of scammers.

The funny part is they mess with the crooks and actually at times, scam the scammers.......

http://www.419eater.com/

jay helfert
05-16-2007, 01:00 PM
I wouldn't have said anything about the check bouncing, and I would have had the police waiting for the guy when he picked up the car..

Why'd you let him get away, Jay?

Russ

He was sending a "buddy", who was in L.A. I did seriously think about "detaining" him myself, but thought better of it. The police were not willing to come out and lay in wait for someone. They had bigger priorities. They said to call them if the buddy showed up.

jay helfert
05-16-2007, 01:02 PM
He should have send it via WESTERN UNION in the first place. since Western Union asks for the same details of whom they will send it to. he could have just easily transferred the money from his bank account to Western Union on which you would receive the said amount. this is kinda dumbfounding and illogical that this person doesn't know this procedure, considering that person mentioned Western Union and having a personal cheque. have the guy send you the cheque and have the FBI evaluate it. it would be nice to see whether this guy is a fraud or not. if it's a fraud, then atleast that is one bad guy being sent to the showers. but if not, well let's say that is one heck of an honest customer.

He overnighted me a bank draft. It looks just like any other cashier check.

Hail Mary Shot
05-16-2007, 01:16 PM
there are a lot of these kind of scams and a lot of versions regarding payments via money order, cheques, WU, etc... some of these are promos, buy and sell and others. my folks then almost got tricked by these dirty mongrels. it was a good thing my folks called me and asked me for my opinion regarding that matter before they had a chance to send the money. I just told them that it was a fake, the first time I've heard the contents of that particular transaction.

Even I wasn't an exception and had a share of such fraudulent acts. the funniest part of that scamming was, the person mentioned a particular company where he was workin for (which was a lie). becoz I coincidentally during that time, was workin for that very same company that he had just mentioned and I never in my life heard his name or even a soul of his presence during my tenure there. I told the authorities about it and had that person traced or setup for a stakeout.

Hail Mary Shot
05-16-2007, 01:35 PM
He overnighted me a bank draft. It looks just like any other cashier check.


Hi Jay,
I was referrin to Sean's case. your case was different since it was a hands-on deal and it really needs a verification coming from the bank. actually it should be a common practice to verify the cheque first before any official transactions take place. but I'm glad that you didn't fell victim to these parasites.

Hail Mary Shot
05-16-2007, 01:43 PM
He was sending a "buddy", who was in L.A. I did seriously think about "detaining" him myself, but thought better of it. The police were not willing to come out and lay in wait for someone. They had bigger priorities. They said to call them if the buddy showed up.

Jay, that would had been a great idea. wait for the guy to show up and invite him for a drink (put a spike on it) or something like that. then when he's asleep, have him hogtied on the railroad , wait for him to wake up, then interrogate him until he confesses ! :D it would be best if the train comes in about 2 mins. that would have been a rush. lol!