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Pushout
10-16-2007, 02:34 PM
I?m starting this thread because of the some things said in the ?Race to 5000? thread. What motivates you to play well? Do you play for money, for bragging rights, for self-satisfaction? Do you play for ?fun?, if so, what motivates you to win? When I started playing, I wanted to win because I wanted to win, I guess. It was that simple, in the beginning. But, I had a hard time winning. It takes everyone a while, figuring out how to make games based on how well you and your opponent play, what game, how long a game, and what stakes to play for. At first, I played a bunch for table time. It got me some experience, and I got to work on the basics without playing/practicing by myself. When I began to play for small money, after getting over the initial fear of losing the money, I found that I was much more focused. I concentrated more on the game than I did when not playing for money. It was never about just winning the money for me, at least, not all the time. Playing for money was a means to an end, not the end in itself. It was years before I became any good at playing in tournaments. People beat me in tournaments that I could give the 7, 8, and 9. With two dollars on the game, those same people couldn?t find the end rail. There were people who beat me who didn?t play for money who played better than I did, but they were few. I naturally gravitated toward the players who played for money. The good players, the serious players, and, of course, the hustlers, bums, and charlatans. The good players that I?ve known who didn?t gamble; I would say were less than an even dozen all these years. It?s just the way I learned to play and I make no apology for it.
I know this reads like an advocating of gambling, and maybe it is. But, I?d really like to know, if you don?t and have not played for money, what motivates you to play your best and win? I?ve never been comfortable playing with friends unless I was teaching them. I just couldn?t achieve that killer instinct when playing people I was close to. I play better in tournaments than I used to, but again, running up against a friend is a tough match for me.
To me, what acedotcom was referring to was, that it seems like pool has come to be much more of a social, friendly, pastime, rather than the serious, play to win, competitive type of game it once was. And, I know all about the rooms needing the social players to survive, etc. This is about playing motivation.

Oddball
10-16-2007, 02:52 PM
Because being good at it looks cool in itself.

trustyrusty
10-16-2007, 02:55 PM
usually a swift kick in the a$$ gets ya movin'!

teebee
10-16-2007, 02:55 PM
I'm still motivated by the whole process of learning the game. I get a real sense of accomplishment when I draw a perfect position to a hard spot or make a difficult shot. Understanding how I did it and knowing I could do it again are very important. I am much more analytical than intuitive.
Winning is real good but if I play well or better than usual and learn somthing from the person I lose to, I am very motivated to keep practising. So I guess for me improvement is the motivation and I hope winning more often is the result.

Cuaba
10-16-2007, 03:00 PM
I'm still motivated by the whole process of learning the game. I get a real sense of accomplishment when I draw a perfect position to a hard spot or make a difficult shot. Understanding how I did it and knowing I could do it again are very important. I am much more analytical than intuitive.
Winning is real good but if I play well or better than usual and learn somthing from the person I lose to, I am very motivated to keep practising. So I guess for me improvement is the motivation and I hope winning more often is the result.

I enjoy getting better, both physically and mentally. At this point, its my mental game that needs the most work.

SoundWaves
10-16-2007, 05:54 PM
Great thread. I think learning is what inspires me. I love to learn and practice. What keeps me learning is how much harder this becomes the better you get at it. I strive to be the one that makes it look easy...

BVal
10-16-2007, 05:57 PM
I enjoy getting better, both physically and mentally. At this point, its my mental game that needs the most work.
Ditto......

Fatboy
10-16-2007, 05:59 PM
I always do everything I do the best I can do it, no matter what it is, i'm not a part time anything, i go the whole way with all my ventures, hobbies etc in life....passion. if i'm making spaggatti its going to be the best I can make it not opening a can and hoping it tastes good. I did give up on spelling-not a joke I honestly put alot of effort into spelling and I just cant do it so I put my energy into other things.

Patrick Johnson
10-16-2007, 06:03 PM
What Motivates You?

Pleasures of small motions.

pj
chgo

Purdman
10-16-2007, 06:04 PM
No matter who the other player is, I play myself. I do the best I can every time I pick up a stick. I know I can break well, I know I can run out a few racks of 9 ball, I know I can run 40 or 50 playing straight pool and I know I have broke and ran out in 1 pocket. It is difficult to find a recreational player that I can not beat. The problem arises when I beat myself by not playing up to my standards. That's my story and I am sticking with it!!!
My ol'lady has beaten me 2 nights in a row playing 9 ball 7 to 2. She got me 2 to 5 and 2 to 6. One of her winners was when I had the 8 at one end of the table and the 9 at the other end. I hit it a little hard and scratched. She played a 1-9 combo for another win. She goes straight to the hill with 1 win. I remember that it is only a game.
Purdman :rolleyes:

TheBook
10-16-2007, 09:21 PM
Too old and not enough money to do anything else.

grandpapkusky
10-16-2007, 10:54 PM
The relaxation of just playing pool. It's something even older people like me can enjoy. Not play good like before, but still what fun. It relaxes me and is a good thing for socializing. I like watching my grandkids play.

8ballEinstein
10-16-2007, 11:29 PM
It's either this or I'd be at home watching reruns of Jake and the Fatman.

Gregg
10-17-2007, 09:56 AM
I love to compete, and playing pool is something I can reasonably be competitive at as I get up in my later years. It used to be wrestling in high school and college, and as you can imagine, wrestling is a young mans sport. Doesn't mean I can't still do my Jujitsu on Sunday mornings though.

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 10:33 AM
Ugh, you guys are full of it.


ALL OF US PLAY POOL TO IMPRESS GIRLS. I mean, what motivates you to get out of bed in the morning?

Andrew Manning
10-17-2007, 10:38 AM
To use your term, self-satisfaction pretty much sums it up for me. I love the feeling of satisfaction I get when I make a tough runout, when I win a tough match, or when somebody who knows what they're talking about tells me how strong I'm playing. I don't make money off it, I don't brag much, I'm not big on the glory/disgrace of victory/defeat, I just love the feeling of satisfaction when I can utilize the skills I've been working so hard on developing to accomplish feats I can be proud of on the pool table.

-Andrew

Andrew Manning
10-17-2007, 10:48 AM
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Kevin Lindstrom
10-17-2007, 11:09 AM
Money is my biggest motivator as it is with most people. Whether they will admit it or not money is the biggest motovator on the planet. No matter how much money you have you can always do with more, it's just different people are at different levels. Tell me one person who will tell you that they have enough money. Sure I can play pool for fun and enjoy it but I enjoy it way much more if there is money at stake. Might be a quarter or it might be 100 dollars, either way the money makes it all the more motivational. Who agrees and who disagrees?

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 11:25 AM
money is the biggest motovator on the planet


HOGWASH! It's GIRLS! If it weren't for girls, I would definitely live in a cave in North Dakota, hunting moose or whatever wildlife they happen to have around there.

TX Poolnut
10-17-2007, 11:33 AM
Who knew? Hope you can fit a pool table in there Jude.:D

https://www.dmr.nd.gov/ndgs/ndnotes/Caves/Caves_h.asp

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 11:37 AM
Who knew? Hope you can fit a pool table in there Jude.:D

https://www.dmr.nd.gov/ndgs/ndnotes/Caves/Caves_h.asp


Well, you have to remember, if I'm living there, it's because there are no girls hence, I have no motivation whatsoever to make money OR play pool. All I will need is a rifle to kill moose and a Nintendo Wii.

Kevin Lindstrom
10-17-2007, 11:50 AM
Example: Without money do you think that Trump could have gotten some of the women he has had.

Jude next question. Once you are married, (it happens to the best of us, myself included) what then will be your motivator? Forget this question if you are one of those fortunate Utah people with that special religion that promotes multiply wives. Man how do they get away with that crap?

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 11:53 AM
Example: Without money do you think that Trump could have gotten some of the women he has had.

Jude next question. Once you are married, (it happens to the best of us, myself included) what then will be your motivator? Forget this question if you are one of those fortunate Utah people with that special religion that promotes multiply wives. Man how do they get away with that crap?


Obviously I will like to avoid hearing my wife say, "Wow, you really stink at pool!"

So I guess, my motivation remains the same.

acedotcom
10-17-2007, 11:53 AM
What motivates me is the desire to get good. Towards that end, I like to play for a little money. Nonsense matches don't help anybody.

Pushout
10-17-2007, 04:22 PM
HOGWASH! It's GIRLS! If it weren't for girls, I would definitely live in a cave in North Dakota, hunting moose or whatever wildlife they happen to have around there.

With DCP??

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 04:24 PM
With DCP??


Um, no. What is basic to my survival does not include DCP.

Skeezicks
10-17-2007, 11:12 PM
What motivates you to play well? I like to get high.

Pushout
10-18-2007, 06:43 AM
My own motivation has been hampered since I lost my job and returned to school {college}. Financial problems and dealing with school after so many years have kind of dampened my interest in playing lately. A phone conversation with Hal Houle got me going again, but it's hard to find the time to put into improvement and serious practice.

T-dog
10-18-2007, 10:42 AM
I like to get high.

I can do that w/ out playing pool but, its not as much fun. I seriously like the pleasures of small motions as Patrick has said. I just love to hit balls.
I think I am going to the Derby so that has got me hit'n drills lately.

MOJOE
10-18-2007, 11:25 AM
FTLOTG..period

TATE
10-18-2007, 11:42 AM
I?m starting this thread because of the some things said in the ?Race to 5000? thread. What motivates you to play well? Do you play for money, for bragging rights, for self-satisfaction? Do you play for ?fun?, if so, what motivates you to win? When I started playing, I wanted to win because I wanted to win, I guess. It was that simple, in the beginning. But, I had a hard time winning. It takes everyone a while, figuring out how to make games based on how well you and your opponent play, what game, how long a game, and what stakes to play for. At first, I played a bunch for table time. It got me some experience, and I got to work on the basics without playing/practicing by myself. When I began to play for small money, after getting over the initial fear of losing the money, I found that I was much more focused. I concentrated more on the game than I did when not playing for money. It was never about just winning the money for me, at least, not all the time. Playing for money was a means to an end, not the end in itself. It was years before I became any good at playing in tournaments. People beat me in tournaments that I could give the 7, 8, and 9. With two dollars on the game, those same people couldn?t find the end rail. There were people who beat me who didn?t play for money who played better than I did, but they were few. I naturally gravitated toward the players who played for money. The good players, the serious players, and, of course, the hustlers, bums, and charlatans. The good players that I?ve known who didn?t gamble; I would say were less than an even dozen all these years. It?s just the way I learned to play and I make no apology for it.
I know this reads like an advocating of gambling, and maybe it is. But, I?d really like to know, if you don?t and have not played for money, what motivates you to play your best and win? I?ve never been comfortable playing with friends unless I was teaching them. I just couldn?t achieve that killer instinct when playing people I was close to. I play better in tournaments than I used to, but again, running up against a friend is a tough match for me.
To me, what acedotcom was referring to was, that it seems like pool has come to be much more of a social, friendly, pastime, rather than the serious, play to win, competitive type of game it once was. And, I know all about the rooms needing the social players to survive, etc. This is about playing motivation.


I like the game and skill aspects of pool, the challenge, the learning, the great shots, the strategy. I like playing the best players.

I also like the social aspect, to unwind after work and enjoy a couple of glasses of wine in a nice atmosphere. I prefer to play in clean places with decent equipment and waitresses.

Usually, when I'm playing socially, I don't try to really crank it up. Gambling on pool and playing my best game is more like "work" to me. It takes effort and it's stressful. I can't unwind and relax while doing it.

Chris