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BLADEPXE
10-17-2007, 09:46 AM
Hey everyone, I am new to this forum and I am sure similar questions were asked countless number of times before, but I am at a loss over which cue/brand to buy. I was thinking of a McDermott M6-4B Professional Series Pool Cue. But have little idea whether this is a good cue or not. Also are does McDermott make good cues or should I look at other manufacturers like Viking? I have been playing pool for over 12 years now and have finally decided to get a cue of my own. I cant seem to find any info online comparing cue manufacturers. Can you please help, just by suggesting a good first cue or brand.

Thanks,
Alex A

Gregg
10-17-2007, 09:50 AM
Both are very nice USA made cues. I personally favor a Viking, and play with my VM20 almost daily.

Bastian
10-17-2007, 10:01 AM
I personally prefer the hit of a wooden-joint Viking as well (Didn't like the F02 stainless joint I had).

Of course, depending on your budget, there may be even better options available to you.. how much are you looking to spend?

BLADEPXE
10-17-2007, 10:03 AM
between $350 and $400

Gregg
10-17-2007, 10:05 AM
between $350 and $400

You can find a nice variety within that range.

Joss comes to mind as well.

I've always liked the idea of a Samsara Bar cue, but they sell for $475, but, you would be getting one heck of a cue for the $$$ IMO.

Good luck finding one.

cleary
10-17-2007, 10:26 AM
for your price range, I would personally get a predator.

http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/predator/predator_sp4rjl.htm


Then again....I would just save up and buy a eurowest. But thats just me

1stLady
10-17-2007, 11:19 AM
I would suggest hitting with the cues first. :) There really is a significant difference between a wood joint and a steel joint feel. Find one you like the feel of and buy it.... and never sell it... it's your first... you can't sell your first!

Greg9Ball
10-17-2007, 11:31 AM
McDermott is an Excellent choice. Their cues are very well made and play excellent. I like the traditional look for the M6-4B. McDermott is an excellent Lifetime warranty that includes warpage and an outstanding lifetime maintanance program. Here are some links for more info:

Lifetime Warranty:
http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/mcdermott/mcdermott_lifetime-warrantee.htm

Lifetime Maintanance:
http://www.billiardwarehouse.com/cues/mcdermott/mcdermott_lifetime-maintanance.htm

Viking and Predator are also excellent choices and I highly recommend either brand.

If you would like to talk in detail about any cues, please feel free to call me. As an authorized dealer of all three and a pool player, I can go into as much detail as you'd like.

Enjoy.

Greg Savoie
BilliardWarehouse.com
888-809-7665

Jallan
10-17-2007, 11:33 AM
I have been shooting with the same McDermott D-13 for 6 years. It will be hard to get me off of. I have more cues; some valuble, some not, but I just seem to always drift back to this cue.

Bastian
10-17-2007, 11:35 AM
For $450 you can get a Samsara Barcue.. I'd highly recommend checking them out. IndyQ has some from before the price went up, so around $425. I cannot say enough good things about Samsara. Their shafts have what most describe as a 'stiff' hit, which for me is preferred.. I recommend a soft tip if you go this route (Moori medium is what I have found feels best on the Samsara shaft) but there are lots of options.

As others have suggested, you will definitely want to try some of your friends' cues out to see if you prefer a wooden or steel joint..

cigardave
10-17-2007, 11:38 AM
between $350 and $400

For that price range I would be looking to buy a top name SP... like a Bob Frey... linkypoo for your convenience (http://www.cuesnthings.com/cues/sneakypete/)

I have one and am extremely happy with it.

My advice is.... for that price range, I'd put my money in the construction/hit/playability of the cue... and not so much in its appearance... and you should be happy in the long run if you do the same.

Bastian
10-17-2007, 11:40 AM
That's very good advice.. there are many custom cuemakers with plain cues in that range.

acedotcom
10-17-2007, 11:48 AM
For less than you'd spend on that McDermott, you could get a custom made SP from Josey Cues (http://www.joseycues.com/cues.php).

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 11:51 AM
I am going to give you the most practical and sound advice ever. Honestly, this is the most truthful thing ever written about cue purchases only nobody wants to admit it -


Buy the best looking cue you can afford. Every brand mentioned is fine. When you develop a real preference, you won't have to ask anyone for advice.

mattman
10-17-2007, 12:13 PM
If you are dead set on spending the full $400, I would consider maybe, less than fancy, custom cue and then buy either a predator 314 shaft or OB-1 shaft. You might like one of those shafts better. Either way, you will have a backup.

If you decide to go with a production cue, I don't think you can go wrong with a McDerrmott. A life-time warranty, even against warpage, is outstanding.

Just my .02
Mattman

despotic931
10-17-2007, 12:15 PM
I am going to give you the most practical and sound advice ever. Honestly, this is the most truthful thing ever written about cue purchases only nobody wants to admit it -


Buy the best looking cue you can afford. Every brand mentioned is fine. When you develop a real preference, you won't have to ask anyone for advice.
Tap Tap Tap!

9 on the snap
10-17-2007, 01:30 PM
I am going to give you the most practical and sound advice ever. Honestly, this is the most truthful thing ever written about cue purchases only nobody wants to admit it -


Buy the best looking cue you can afford. Every brand mentioned is fine. When you develop a real preference, you won't have to ask anyone for advice.

I agree 100%. It ain't the arrow it's the Indian.

ez2h8
10-17-2007, 01:40 PM
Buy a $50.00 players SP, gamble with the remainder of the money, double the amount over time and then you will have enough to buy a really nice cue and some change left over for breakfast in the morning. :P


j/k
ez

Jude Rosenstock
10-17-2007, 01:44 PM
Buy a $50.00 players SP, gamble with the remainder of the money, double the amount over time and then you will have enough to buy a really nice cue and some change left over for breakfast in the morning. :P


j/k
ez


Just give your cue to me. Ship it to Amsterdam Billiards, NYC. You will thank me at least 1,000 times for the rest of your life.

ez2h8
10-17-2007, 02:32 PM
Just give your cue to me. Ship it to Amsterdam Billiards, NYC. You will thank me at least 1,000 times for the rest of your life.

LOL
No thanks :)

ez

Carl
10-18-2007, 01:53 PM
Alex,

All of the cues discussed so far (including McDermott) have loyal fans, and all should be well made. I would add Shurtz cues to the list, www.shurtzcue.com. It would be ideal to hit a cue before you buy it, but first impressions aren't necessarily lasting impressions.

Some of the best prices around are offered by Erik Lee, www.erikleecues.com. You can get good prices on Predator, Joss, Mezz, and Viking. He throws in a J&J Jump//Break cue with every purchase over $500, so you might consider springing for a Schon or trolling the custom cue list (not likely to find much below 1K there). (I'm not affiliated with Erik in any way, but I am a satisfied three-time purchaser.)

Some on this forum consider it heresy to recommend ebay, and double heresy to recommend Dale Perry. I think you get a lot of cue for the prices new DP cues are getting these days. You can also find deals on new and used McDermotts, as well as the other makers mentioned here. Shopping ebay requires caution, but I haven't been burned (yet).

Although I agree with the advice to buy an attractive cue, don't waste money on fancy. A sneaky pete or merry widow by a good maker can look great, play great, and save you money.

I was in your position several years ago, and have enjoyed trying to assemble a few quality cues toward the low end of the price range (less than 1K). It's addictive. But I haven't yet found a cue that would compensate for a bad stroke. If it's a straight stick with a reasonable weight and balance, the biggest factor is the tip.

Good luck.
Carl

Bastian
10-18-2007, 01:57 PM
There are some decent folks on eBay.. especially if you're looking for a production cue (Viking, McD, etc). I sold a mint condition Viking F02 that I had over $1200 in for the painfully low price of $500 there.. just a few months ago. Take a look for joerackem's eBay store, he has amazing customer service (email him at 2am sometime, you'll be amazed by the response time). He also manages to get rock bottom prices on everything. Mention AZBilliards and he manages to get the price even lower. I've purchased a few nice items from him and have been very happy with every aspect of the sale.

shortman
10-18-2007, 02:06 PM
Hey everyone, I am new to this forum and I am sure similar questions were asked countless number of times before, but I am at a loss over which cue/brand to buy. I was thinking of a McDermott M6-4B Professional Series Pool Cue. But have little idea whether this is a good cue or not. Also are does McDermott make good cues or should I look at other manufacturers like Viking? I have been playing pool for over 12 years now and have finally decided to get a cue of my own. I cant seem to find any info online comparing cue manufacturers. Can you please help, just by suggesting a good first cue or brand.

Thanks,
Alex A

A first cue is a great thing. I do not think you can go wrong with Samsara Bar cue, McDermott, Mezz, Schon, or a starter custom.

cheers---------------BW

mattman
10-18-2007, 02:16 PM
Take a look for joerackem's eBay store, he has amazing customer service (email him at 2am sometime, you'll be amazed by the response time). He also manages to get rock bottom prices on everything. Mention AZBilliards and he manages to get the price even lower.
That's a fact. I picked up my Predator P2 last year cheaper than anybody.

BVal
10-18-2007, 02:19 PM
For that price range I would be looking to buy a top name SP... like a Bob Frey... linkypoo for your convenience (http://www.cuesnthings.com/cues/sneakypete/)

I have one and am extremely happy with it.

My advice is.... for that price range, I'd put my money in the construction/hit/playability of the cue... and not so much in its appearance... and you should be happy in the long run if you do the same.
Anybody who puts a linkypoo for convenience is a stand up guy in my book :)

BVal

TripXQ
10-18-2007, 02:44 PM
Hi there,
You are welcome to view my website where you can find at least one or two custom cues that may be of interest to you. The website is as follows: www.triplecrosscues.com

I think a low end custom cue built for playability would be a better purchase than a higher end production cue.

Thanks in advance for giving me a chance to show them to you.

Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:

HollyWood
10-18-2007, 03:02 PM
HWhat happened to buy american mark

DeepBanks
10-18-2007, 08:37 PM
Take a look for joerackem's eBay store, he has amazing customer service (email him at 2am sometime, you'll be amazed by the response time). He also manages to get rock bottom prices on everything. Mention AZBilliards and he manages to get the price even lower.

Joe Rackem is the bomb . . . I just bought six Moori tips from him for $60 shipped . . . He's affiliated with Nielsen Billiards (I think) but in any case, first class . . . super fast shipping and merchandise . . . there are many other really great people on AZ who help all us pool players out, but my experience (via e-Bay) with Joe was nothing but PERFECT.

gobrian77
10-18-2007, 08:39 PM
I've been on a bit of a buying frenzy the last few months, and, while I picked up a few expensive "high end" cues, I bought a zebrawood McDermott Phoenix COM (stole it off eBay for $175) that I just love the look and feel of, and it compares favorably with cues that cost several times more.

BLADEPXE
10-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Thanks alot guys, for all your input and suggestions. I think i am going to stick with getting the McDermot I mentioned, the look appeals to me, the shaft (which everyone says is the most important part of the cue is good) plus I can get a 12mm tip, which I found I prefer over the 13mm. Also the cue comes with a great warranty and free service for 10 years. I guess I am going to take a look at some custom cue's, I take it that the concensus on the forum is that a custom cue is much better than a production cue? The only thing about custom cues is I have no idea which are good, besides Samsara as alot have mentioned. Also I take it there is no such warranty on custom cues and they seem to be very expensive as I have been looking. I think Ill get the McDermott first and then with time buy a custom cue. Thanks for all the great input to everyone.

Alex A.