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f210
10-17-2007, 06:05 PM
next on the tv table. Ok, who is your pick to win?

sjm
10-17-2007, 06:09 PM
Wow, what a match. I'd call Niels, who beat Van Corteza in the finals at the Challenge of Champions this summer at Mohegan Sun, a very slight favorite, but this match is up for grabs.

pooljunkie4ever
10-17-2007, 06:13 PM
Wow, Neils makes the 9ft table look small, LOL:D

branpureza
10-17-2007, 06:20 PM
i'll take van van... he's the better player in my book.

crappoolguy
10-17-2007, 06:24 PM
Niels is a great player.

TannerPruess
10-17-2007, 06:27 PM
My hunch is Van Van by 2 games.

beetle
10-17-2007, 06:31 PM
Neils plays too strong against strong players. He will win by 2!

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 06:35 PM
I'll take Neils for $20 just to sweat it. Johnnyt

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 06:39 PM
I'll take Neils for $20 just to sweat it. Johnnyt
You got action

pooljunkie4ever
10-17-2007, 06:40 PM
Cmon, match is already 30 min late, LOL

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 06:41 PM
You got action
OK GL 2u. Johnnyt

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 06:41 PM
OK GL 2u. Johnnyt
Back at ya

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Van Van breaks and runs out 1-0.

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 06:59 PM
2-0 Van. Johnnyt

f210
10-17-2007, 06:59 PM
Lee opens a 2 game lead, score is 2 to 0

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 06:59 PM
2-0 Lee Van

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:00 PM
Corteza scratches on the break. Neils has BIH and an out.

Neils makes it 2-1.

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 07:03 PM
2-1 van. Johnnyt

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:04 PM
Now Neils scratches on the break. Corteza is probably out.

3-1 Lee Van

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:07 PM
2-1 van. Johnnyt
Are we writing to each other. It doesn't appear anyone else cares.

BTW- 4-1 Van Van. 9 on break

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 07:07 PM
4-1 johnnyt

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:10 PM
5-1 Corteza

f210
10-17-2007, 07:10 PM
Are we writing to each other. It doesn't appear anyone else cares.

BTW- 4-1 Van Van. 9 on break

maybe everybody is watching live via BcN. Lee Van is looking good. appears very impressive in the opening games. Very relaxed style. If he wins this one, he is my dark horse for this tournament.

f210
10-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Lee Van Corteza is making it look too easy in the opening games. What is this, Neils seems like he is complaining and they made Lee break harder.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:12 PM
Neils complained to Behrman about Corteza's soft break and Barry had a talk with Lee Van. Corteza promptly broke hard and scratched in the side.

Now 5-2

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Neils breaks dry and Corteza is on the 1 and looks to be out.

6-2 Corteza

f210
10-17-2007, 07:15 PM
Does anybody know if the soft break is not allowed in this tournament? The commentators seem to think it is unfair to Lee and this shifted the momentum back to Neils. Have seen a lot of soft breaks earlier and nobody seemed to complain.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:18 PM
Does anybody know if the soft break is not allowed in this tournament? The commentators seem to think it is unfair to Lee and this shifted the momentum back to Neils. Have seen a lot of soft breaks earlier and nobody seemed to complain.
The soft break was covered in the players meeting. The rule this year was no soft break- break from the box.

BTW- Neils just scratched looks like it will be 7-2 Van Van. Yep 7-2

f210
10-17-2007, 07:21 PM
The soft break was covered in the players meeting. The rule this year was no soft break- break from the box.

thanks for the info. Does not seem to bother Lee Van anyway. He is very cool and confident. He is making Neils look like an amateur. Am very impressed with his game so far.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:35 PM
Now 8-2 Corteza.

f210
10-17-2007, 07:38 PM
Corteza scratches on his break giving Feijen a chance to inch closer 3 to 8.

sweatinNbettin
10-17-2007, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the updates.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:44 PM
Looks like Niels will make it a little closer at 8-4.

selftaut
10-17-2007, 07:47 PM
thanks for the updates ktown!

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:51 PM
Neils played a safe but pushed the 1 by the side pocket. Van kicked it in and looks to be out.

9-4

f210
10-17-2007, 07:52 PM
9 to 4 Corteza. 2 more to go. BTW, Ronnie Alcano just demolished Chris Bartrum 11 to 0.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 07:54 PM
I think Corteza has scratched like 4 times on the break. How the hell is he winning doing this I don't know.

I think they are trying to set a record for the amount of times they can say "billiard" in one minute. LOL

f210
10-17-2007, 07:59 PM
I think Corteza has scratched like 4 times on the break. How the hell is he winning doing this I don't know.

When he switched to the hard break, that is when he started to scratch on the break. Otherwise, this game would have been over a long time ago. Lee plays great safeties though. But he needs to practice more on his hard breaks.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 08:00 PM
9-5. What a way to make a livin'.:cool:

f210
10-17-2007, 08:00 PM
9 to 5 now Corteza. Match is not over yet and Neils can still win this match.

f210
10-17-2007, 08:06 PM
Feijen's turn to scratch on the break but Lee misses.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 08:09 PM
Getting tighter. 9-6

JoeyA
10-17-2007, 08:11 PM
Getting tighter. 9-6

Keep em coming, guys, I just spotted this thread and have played both players and like them both.
Thanks for the updates.
JoeyA

Ky Boy
10-17-2007, 08:17 PM
thanks for the updates guys keep 'em coming rep to you when its over.

Gary

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 08:19 PM
What a jump bank shot by Neils. He looks like he will make it 9-7. Neils is coming back strong.

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 08:20 PM
9-7 johnnyt

bagofpaper
10-17-2007, 08:20 PM
awesome, which I was watching..:confused:

beetle
10-17-2007, 08:21 PM
Neils is shooting 940+ and Corteza is shooting 900. Hopefully Neils will catch him in game count!

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Neils amkes a ball on the break and has shape on the 1. the 5 and 7 are tied up but may be a combo. He looks like he will make it 9-8 unless he falls dead. He got there.

beetle
10-17-2007, 08:23 PM
9 to 8, Neils is catching up!

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 08:25 PM
Feijen breaks dry. LVC has a runout opportunity.

Lee Van just had the kitchen sink thrown at him and calmly runs out to get to the hill. 10-8

f210
10-17-2007, 08:27 PM
What a game!!! Corteza now on the hill 10 to 8. Lee Van showing grace under pressure.

Ktown D
10-17-2007, 08:29 PM
Corteza breaks and makes a ball with shape on the 1. He looks in good position to run out.

He gets out to take the match 11-8.

f210
10-17-2007, 08:31 PM
Lee Van Corteza wins 11 to 8. Mark my word, he will go far in this tournament. Nothing seems to rattle him.

Johnnyt
10-17-2007, 08:31 PM
Great match. 11-8 Van. Johnnyt

mouse
10-17-2007, 08:32 PM
thanks for the updates.

ROBERT

TannerPruess
10-17-2007, 08:33 PM
Ok so I had Van Van winning by 2 games, I was on game off. I would have won some big V-cash for that predicition, if only... ;)

beetle
10-17-2007, 08:33 PM
My hunch is Van Van by 2 games.

I should know: Don't bet against TannerPruess. There's a reason he's the vcash leader!

TannerPruess
10-17-2007, 08:50 PM
I should know: Don't bet against TannerPruess. There's a reason he's the vcash leader!
;) Like Efren says, "I just get lucky"

Hail Mary Shot
10-18-2007, 01:06 AM
Neils complained to Behrman about Corteza's soft break and Barry had a talk with Lee Van. Corteza promptly broke hard and scratched in the side.

Now 5-2

seems like he's complaining coz he's losing. I saw Neils utilized the soft break a couple of times before in other tourneys but his opponents never complained about it. He wasn't also complaining about it since he's winning in those matches. I'm beginning to think Neils is a poor sport.

Loontjens
10-18-2007, 02:46 AM
Underneath its Niels his thoughts on this match from his diary on www.nielsfeijen.nl (http://www.nielsfeijen.nl)

Just done with the accu-stats table match vs Lee van Corteza. Tough loss 8-11. Had to wait in the chair over 30min for speeches from Barry, Scott and Steve Lilles. Then it was finally game time 40min later then planned. Lee broke and ran the first. I missed a long 1 after his push out 0-2. I ran the next but scratched on the break 1-3. 9 on the break 1-4, break and run 1-5 He scratched on the break, I made 2-5 but came dry on the break 2-6. He won the next two for 2-8. I started making a run from there, got a break together a little and made it 7-8! Played a safe in the next but Lee kicked the 1 in and ran out for 7-9. I won the next 8-9, broke dry and no more shot. He ran and broke and ran 8-11. Feel sick but fought hard from far behind. Gotta play at 15:00 tomorrow

Hail Mary Shot
10-18-2007, 02:57 AM
Underneath its Niels his thoughts on this match from his diary on www.nielsfeijen.nl (http://www.nielsfeijen.nl)

Just done with the accu-stats table match vs Lee van Corteza. Tough loss 8-11. Had to wait in the chair over 30min for speeches from Barry, Scott and Steve Lilles. Then it was finally game time 40min later then planned. Lee broke and ran the first. I missed a long 1 after his push out 0-2. I ran the next but scratched on the break 1-3. 9 on the break 1-4, break and run 1-5 He scratched on the break, I made 2-5 but came dry on the break 2-6. He won the next two for 2-8. I started making a run from there, got a break together a little and made it 7-8! Played a safe in the next but Lee kicked the 1 in and ran out for 7-9. I won the next 8-9, broke dry and no more shot. He ran and broke and ran 8-11. Feel sick but fought hard from far behind. Gotta play at 15:00 tomorrow

I guess he forgot to mention his complaint regarding Lee's break !

Kimmo
10-18-2007, 03:10 AM
To Niels' benefit, the soft-break is not usually banned in tournaments...in this one it is...so mentioning about it to the referee is perfectly in line with the rules of the tournament....I don't know why it should be seen as 'poor sport'...you could just as easily say that it's 'poor sport' to use soft break when it is specifically forbidden...

just my 0.02?

cheers,
Kimmo

Hail Mary Shot
10-18-2007, 03:23 AM
To Niels' benefit, the soft-break is not usually banned in tournaments...in this one it is...so mentioning about it to the referee is perfectly in line with the rules of the tournament....I don't know why it should be seen as 'poor sport'...you could just as easily say that it's 'poor sport' to use soft break when it is specifically forbidden...

just my 0.02?

cheers,
Kimmo

OK ! what I'm saying is that it is quite an irony that a former practitioner of the soft break is the one who is now complaining about it. as to his complaints, Neils complained when he was already down bigtime and Lee kept pummeling him. Neils could have mentioned it during Lee's first try. I believe Neils said that inorder to get a chance back on the table and distract Lee's momentum and gameplan. Neils is correct regarding the rules, but he had also something else on it as well.

Kimmo
10-18-2007, 04:12 AM
I don't know who is NOT former practitioner of soft break...we've all tried it at some point or another I am sure...does that make us 'practitioners'? I dare to say that the 'standard break' from Niels is on the heavy side.

As far as softbreak in a tournament where it is not allowed...If someone did it against me.....first time...let it slide....second time...hang on a minute..after a few times I wouldn't take it. If the situation is putting you in an unfair situation (the other person dropping balls on ever break with illegal break whereas you do the legal break and keep scratching or getting dry breaks), wouldn't you do something? What is the right time do it? Go run to the referee immediately after the first break? The second? Third? Talk to the opponent first?
I think you're just painting a bad guy somewhere where there really isn't one.
So of course he had something on it? But by your logic it's impossible to say anything about a soft break because you can't see it until you're already down some racks...so be default you're bad sport?

Hail Mary Shot
10-18-2007, 04:54 AM
I don't know who is NOT former practitioner of soft break...we've all tried it at some point or another I am sure...does that make us 'practitioners'? I dare to say that the 'standard break' from Niels is on the heavy side.

As far as softbreak in a tournament where it is not allowed...If someone did it against me.....first time...let it slide....second time...hang on a minute..after a few times I wouldn't take it. If the situation is putting you in an unfair situation (the other person dropping balls on ever break with illegal break whereas you do the legal break and keep scratching or getting dry breaks), wouldn't you do something? What is the right time do it? Go run to the referee immediately after the first break? The second? Third? Talk to the opponent first?
I think you're just painting a bad guy somewhere where there really isn't one.
So of course he had something on it? But by your logic it's impossible to say anything about a soft break because you can't see it until you're already down some racks...so be default you're bad sport?


Yes, if someone was really into the rules in the first place, he should have mentioned it upon the first try and and not let it pass a couple of more times. it's in the rules, right?

Kimmo
10-18-2007, 05:14 AM
so he gave him leeway about the rules...and perhaps some of the first ones were borderline (I don't know, I haven't seen the game)? I still don't see any 'bad sport' about it...I'd say it's 'good sport' to let him break for a while to see if he's not doing it intentionally and once that becomes obvious it's intentional, then say to the referee...in effect you've given something in front already then to the opponent.
What should he have done then?

Hail Mary Shot
10-18-2007, 05:42 AM
since he tolerated it til the midway of the match, he could have atleast let it go. was Neils being generous? I dont think so. but it's obvious that it has affected his psyche when he was getting massacred. in anycase, I believe Neils wouldn't complain about it if Lee wasn't making a ball on the break or if Neils was the one way ahead. no room for concern as they would say it.
so that's it, Neils lost. just hope that he wins all his matches in the losers side.

Kimmo
10-18-2007, 06:14 AM
Oh I agree completely with the other stuff...Neils lost to someone who played better. It's just the comment about being 'bad sport' for playing by the rules that i don't understand.