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Jody C
10-18-2007, 04:47 AM
What is the best way to store your cue to protect from warpage.
Laying flat in a case standing the case up, etc.
Thanks,

cuesblues
10-18-2007, 04:59 AM
What is the best way to store your cue to protect from warpage.
Laying flat in a case standing the case up, etc.
Thanks,

I was going to start the same thread.

I have 2-24 x 48 foam layered cases, made for transporting lots of cues on the airlines. These cases can be stood up, layed flat, inverted, whatever. I lay them flat, and then stand the cases up, and move them around regularly. I would like to know the best way to store cues also.

hangemhigh
10-18-2007, 05:28 AM
In a case standing up.

cuesblues
10-18-2007, 05:37 AM
I don't think it matters. Just don't store it in the trunk of your car.

Really, I thought that these cue resellers going all over town with trunks full of cheap warped cues knew what they were doing. Seriously though, there has to be an optimum long term storage method, beyond making sure that the cues are in a controlled environment

Double-Dave
10-18-2007, 05:39 AM
Look at the shelves in your closet....and then store your cues upright.

gr. Dave

JimS
10-18-2007, 05:42 AM
I don't know what is best. I just keep mine standing in wall racks w/the extra shafts in cases. I can't play w/all of them but at least I can look and play w/one when the urge strikes.

cuesblues
10-18-2007, 05:58 AM
[QUOTE=John Barton]
But don't come to me if your cues warp :-)

you mean to tell me that if you spend a grand on a cue case, it doesn't come with a letter guarantying any cue against warping

sygfrid
10-18-2007, 05:58 AM
ideally, hanging on its own weight (vertically) especially when not in use. but in most circumstances, cues stored vertically inside the cue case is good enough.

why vertically? so that there'll be no other lateral forces to act on the cue (ie. so that gravity can pull the cue only in 1 direction, therefore keeping it straight). hanging the cue in a cue rack may not be a good idea as the cue tends to lean on its holder, causing some stress somewhere along the cue, therefore may induce warpage near the stress point.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/sygfrid/pool%20items/CIMG0081.jpg

Double-Dave
10-18-2007, 06:07 AM
But don't come to me if your cues warp :-)

P.S. Dave, shelves are typically not made to the same standards as pool cues, typically they are made of laminated pressboard with the thinnest coats of varnish that the manufacturer can get away with. You can find many antique dressers that were crafted by the Amish and other individual shops where the wood is straight and everything works perfectly despite being 50-100 years old.

Hi John,

Off course my comment was meant as a bit of a joke, but I do stand by it.
I'm sure there's one or two 100 year old shelves that are still straight,
but I have seen hundreds if not thousands that weren't.
My uncle has an 40.000 sq. foot antique store where I worked for two years.
The thing that is making the shelf and your cue warp has nothing to do
with the quality of the wood and whether or not it is laminated. Gravity
pulls on all things, store your cue upright and the worst that can happen
is it will be a little bit shorter (now that was a joke, the shorter part).

gr. Dave

p.s. I agree hanging is probably the best solution of all, but I find it unpractical.

Snapshot9
10-18-2007, 07:05 AM
Pretty much agree with John, but I would imagine, just my opinion mind you,
that a storage cabinet in a controlled environment that has precut slots with the bottom being on a 45-60 angle, would be desirable for storing cues. They would lay flat in the precut slot (you could line the slots if you are anal), and have precut round slots at the bottom, lined if desired.

You would simply lay the cues into the slots being fully supported all the way down to the bottom. You could have 2 part wood or glass lid to raise up to get to them. The overall cabinet would be kind of a rectangle with half of a corner sliced off of it.

I know exactly how I would design it, and it could be built by yourself pretty easily. You would have to determine how many precut slots you would need (or max cues stored) in the cabinet as it would effect the raw wood material quantity needed.

ez2h8
10-18-2007, 09:40 AM
When I had an extra bed room, all 3 of my 2x4 cases had their own bed with a blanket over top of them. :P

Now they are under my bed laying flat.
ez

Coro
10-18-2007, 10:32 AM
I've always heard to keep them away from high heat areas and places with a lot of moisture and humidity. (car trunks are horrible places to store i've been told). If u keep exposing them to really hot places with moisture, they would expand, contract, expand, contract. i think this would cause the greatest chance of warpage.
Facts I've heard about ivory (ferrules): Don't play with it if its been exposed to cold temperatue for a while right away, it makes it brittle and easy to crack. allow it to heat up, let it sit somewhere, or put your hand around it for a while to heat it up.

Double-Dave
10-18-2007, 10:49 AM
I agree for the most part. Except for the gravity part :-) Wood will warp when it's hanging as well. Wood warps because it shrinks and expands due to the moisture content present inside the cells.

Well, I can only respectfully disagree.

Wood does warp hanging/standing up/lying flat/whatever. This is caused by the wood "working" or"moving". Whether that is being caused by heat or humidity or whatever isn't really the issue here. Shafts can warp under absolutely perfect conditions I concede that.

What I'm trying to say is, a shaft that would remain straight if stored upright/hanging WILL warp if it is stored flat. This is no wood "working" or "moving" just gravity. Or do you think it's a coincidence all the shelves warp downwards in the middle? They're not following a grain line or something, they're just being pulled on downwards and that's where they go.

You even state you could see it happening if the cue was only supported at the joint. Well, what if it is supported on three points, but left like that for ten years? The difference in force is offset by the difference in time.

gr. Dave <-- kind of a scientist

ridewiththewind
10-18-2007, 12:09 PM
Just store the cues upright, in a decent case, and, as long as the cue is made of quality woods, particularly the shafts...all should be fine. Most cue cases these days are made to store upright, hence the little 'feet' on the bottoms.

As a caveat....if the wood in a cue has not been aged properly, or it has been cut too soon between turns....the wood could 'move', whether the cue was stored properly or not...and whether it's in a 10.00 case or a 1000.00 case.

Lisa