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Scottlucasi19
12-02-2007, 02:26 AM
I hate pool its the worst thing that has ever happened to my life. Tonight was another loss for me and my hard earned money. I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE. I cant focus anymore. Looking back i've wasted so much time researching and buying books, watching pro matches going through cues. I had to talk this guy into playing me because their was not anyone else to play, and he beat me. Im a natural born loser anyone can beat me. I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always. These people probly dont even know how to use the internet. I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. I read the entire book of the inner game of tennis. Watched hours of matches. I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on. I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought. Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. I thought that tonight was the night the i turned it all around and started winning alil bit, I dont want to get rich i just want to win every once in a while. But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest .

cuejoey
12-02-2007, 02:36 AM
A layoff of pool is what you need.take a month off without doing anything pool related then come back and start with basic drills..every person in every sport has ups and downs and burnout..this is what you have experienced ...enjoy the month or so off then practice,practice and practice.good luck to you and remember to let us know how your doing when you start back up..enjoy the Holidays........:)

smokeandapancak
12-02-2007, 02:41 AM
DCP....is that you ????????????????????????????????????

HollyWood
12-02-2007, 03:46 AM
Sounds like you need to play on bigger tables. Find a master instructor in your area take lessons. sounds like some mental problems (confidence) The indian or the arrow story. Swim, walk, do cardo stuff. Your only as good as the weakest link. Playability and durability comes to mind. Give yourself a break. mark

jay helfert
12-02-2007, 04:00 AM
I hate pool its the worst thing that has ever happened to my life. Tonight was another loss for me and my hard earned money. I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE. I cant focus anymore. Looking back i've wasted so much time researching and buying books, watching pro matches going through cues. I had to talk this guy into playing me because their was not anyone else to play, and he beat me. Im a natural born loser anyone can beat me. I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always. These people probly dont even know how to use the internet. I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. I read the entire book of the inner game of tennis. Watched hours of matches. I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on. I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought. Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. I thought that tonight was the night the i turned it all around and started winning alil bit, I dont want to get rich i just want to win every once in a while. But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest .

Don't eat before you play and don't play for money. It puts too much pressure on you. Some day when you have more money, you can try again.
Start small, a dollar or two a game. Build your confidence slowly.

If you don't enjoy playing, you should quit for a while. You sound like a very unhappy man. I suspect other things in your life are not going well either. When you get your life straightened out, come back to pool. You'll enjoy it a lot more.

a9ballbr8k
12-02-2007, 04:04 AM
dont know if i will ever play again.

Yeah.....see you soon ;) We always come back :D

SPINDOKTOR
12-02-2007, 04:26 AM
what do you have when everything is failing? you have your basic fundamentals, sounds to me like you need instruction, and im proboly going to get ill repute for saying this but to me its the truth.. People say, whatever makes you confortable, play the way you want.. well.. your useualy the end result for sooo many players. (No offense) The truth is if you want to play like a champion (a winner) you must address the table as such, in both body and mind.

A tennis book wont help, sure some of the mentality is the same the difference is tennis has a physical release, you can exert more energy into a physical reaction to make use of the adrenaline that hits you.. in pool if you do this espeacialy on the break, you coulld kill a spectator.. lol...

whats going on with you isnt your fault, you have just been preparing yourself for a differnt kind of battle. The good news is this can be fixed, the bad news is that your talent may be tarnished from exposing yourself to the wrong direction.

Taking time off may help, but honestly your not going to get any better untill you find someone who understands the makeup of a winner, specificaly billiards..



GL!

SPINDOKTOR

RunoutalloverU
12-02-2007, 04:40 AM
I hate pool its the worst thing that has ever happened to my life. Tonight was another loss for me and my hard earned money. I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE. I cant focus anymore. Looking back i've wasted so much time researching and buying books, watching pro matches going through cues. I had to talk this guy into playing me because their was not anyone else to play, and he beat me. Im a natural born loser anyone can beat me. I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always. These people probly dont even know how to use the internet. I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. I read the entire book of the inner game of tennis. Watched hours of matches. I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on. I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought. Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. I thought that tonight was the night the i turned it all around and started winning alil bit, I dont want to get rich i just want to win every once in a while. But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest .

Where do you play?

Shortside K
12-02-2007, 06:51 AM
I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE.

I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always.

I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. You practiced on a 9 footer yet go gamble on a bar-box... probably affects your play. There is more "room" on the 9 footer.

I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. Many times when we practice by ourselves we believe we are "running out from anywhere", when in reality, we are missing several shots. I doesn't matter cuz we're shooting next and we feel we're playing great. Most of the time we're playing just like we always do.

So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on.Even if you were playing great... once you left and came back... without a warm-up you may not be playing the same as before you left.

I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought.Overconfidence and a lack of respect.

Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. Find "easier" games.... Play some "fun" matches with some of your friends that are either at your level, or slightly below. This should let you find out where your game really is at when you are relaxed. It sounds like your game goes south when the heat is on, so playing relaxed will show you "the best" you can presently play. Then realize that you will play poorer (at least right now) when you are gambling and adjust your game to cope with this fact. Play weaker players, ask for some weight... until you believe your "pressure game" returns.

But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. I sounds like he's no world beater... not running racks, etc., so you must be getting to the table a lot. Maybe you aren't showing him enough respect...

and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest .You didn't state how long or how many games it took for him to "take off with my 100 dollars".... You were playing for $10/game so... if he won 10 straight games or something like that... you are not matching up well...


It sounds like you are putting too much pressure on yourself to perform at an unrealistic level. No one plays their best all the time. Its a lot like golf... most people believe they are better than they really are... they shoot their best ever score and suddenly that becomes their standard score... they think they can shoot that score all the time, when really they may rarely approach that level. Lower your expectations and adjust your game/match-ups accordingly and see if that helps with your success ratio.

This is a lot of advice from someone who "couldn't beat an egg...", but what the hell... my 2 cents...

hangemhigh
12-02-2007, 07:19 AM
Your problem is not playing Pool,your problem is Gambling.

SlickRick_PCS
12-02-2007, 07:54 AM
I hate pool its the worst thing that has ever happened to my life. Tonight was another loss for me and my hard earned money. I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE. I cant focus anymore. Looking back i've wasted so much time researching and buying books, watching pro matches going through cues. I had to talk this guy into playing me because their was not anyone else to play, and he beat me. Im a natural born loser anyone can beat me. I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always. These people probly dont even know how to use the internet. I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. I read the entire book of the inner game of tennis. Watched hours of matches. I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on. I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought. Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. I thought that tonight was the night the i turned it all around and started winning alil bit, I dont want to get rich i just want to win every once in a while. But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest .

First of all, why the hell are you even caring about him? WHY!? Forget him... forget his "attitude". Its *YOU* that you need to be worried about. You have officially been sharked. Hands down. And you took his bait when he started his ranting and you felt sentimental for him and that's why your mind just got really fogged up. What you should be thinking in your mind is: "Ok, I'm just gonna focus on MY table because it is MY TIME, MY PLACE, and MY ABILLITY to make every single shot without hesitation." Don't worry about any other opponent, because if they lose, they learned from THEIR mistakes (and yours too if they're sharks).

So are you a "natural born loser"? Only if your state of mind applies to it. But like everything... there's always a white light in the end of a hollow tunnel. Like Vince Lombardi says, "Winners never Quit and Quiters never Win! So DON'T GIVE UP!

TX Poolnut
12-02-2007, 08:00 AM
Your problem is not playing Pool,your problem is Gambling.
Took the words right out of my...uh, fingers.:)

TX Poolnut
12-02-2007, 08:10 AM
"The fact is you were not born a winner, and you were not born a loser. You are what you make yourself to be." -unknown

"You're never a loser until you quit trying." -Mike Ditka

"The winner persistently programs his pluses; the loser mournfully magnifies his minuses." -William Arthur Ward

"If at first you don't succeed, there's always darts." -TXPoolnut

sjm
12-02-2007, 08:16 AM
You suggest you hate pool but don't offer even one shred of evidence that this is true. You obviously hate losing money gambling, and you've made that point well.

I'll take it on faith that you were well prepared for this match, but my guess is that your losing attitude, which caused you to focus on your hatred of both pool and your opponent, ensured that once you fell behind, you stayed there.

rykaso
12-02-2007, 08:17 AM
mornin' all...reminds me of a t-shirt I saw. "Winners never quit, Quitters never win". what if u never win or never quit? what does that make u?

Scottlucasi19
12-02-2007, 08:28 AM
Thanks guys I knew some could relate. Im meeting that guy again today at 2:00. Today is a new day, and I feel confident. Im going to beat him like a drum. Im not going to let him win a game. Im going to treat everygame like its my last. Im going to quietly and calmly destroy this guy...And then im going to take my month off.

Shortside K
12-02-2007, 08:28 AM
mornin' all...reminds me of a t-shirt I saw. "Winners never quit, Quitters never win". what if u never win or never quit? what does that make u?

sounds a lot like the bad gamblers I know....

Neil
12-02-2007, 08:33 AM
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219Dave
12-02-2007, 08:38 AM
I think Hangemhigh has a point.

What you don't mention is whether you feel like you choke when you're not playing for money. Why don't you just quit gambling and play for fun for a while. Or forever.

On the mental aspect, I recently read Zen Pool by Max Eberle and feel that it has helped me.

Blackjack
12-02-2007, 08:52 AM
I'm also sick of this game. I quit too.

;)

cuesblues
12-02-2007, 08:55 AM
I would practice more on the big tables, not just to prepare for a day of gambling at the pool hall. Also, this guy that can't run 4-balls has a better chance of winning on a bar box. The fact that you prepared yourself for this game tells me that you need to get your game together a whole lot more before you start gambling with anybody. When I got back into pool in 2001 after a 30+ year layoff, a guy at the pool hall several years older than me, told me "you shoot too hard, and don't play anybody in here for money". After practicing a lot, I still feel like I am the worst pool player ever, but I can assure you that on my worst day, a guy that can't run 4-balls on a bar box would not beat me in a race to 5 or more, no way, I don't care how bad I am shooting.

If you don't have natural ability, or live in a pool room, the way you practice is very important. Plus gambling is a different game also. and the idea that you practiced on a 9 ft. table just to prepare for this game tells me that you are not ready to gamble. Either you are a good enough player to gamble or you aren't. I just don't think you have spent enough time practicing correctly to get out there and gamble.

alstl
12-02-2007, 09:29 AM
Don't eat before you play and don't play for money. It puts too much pressure on you. Some day when you have more money, you can try again.
Start small, a dollar or two a game. Build your confidence slowly.

If you don't enjoy playing, you should quit for a while. You sound like a very unhappy man. I suspect other things in your life are not going well either. When you get your life straightened out, come back to pool. You'll enjoy it a lot more.

I'm curious why you suggest not to eat before you play.

3andstop
12-02-2007, 09:30 AM
Hi. I think your pool game will be just fine. I'm more concerned with your paragraph structure in letters. :)

No, all kidding aside. Its not gambling. I'm sure you have no trouble gambling a 20 dollar bill in some ridiculous slot machine at a casino, or a lottery ticket at a food mart that gives you far less chance of winning. So, its not gambling. Don't try to address it as such or you will waste time barking up the wrong tree.

IMO tightening up while playing comes from a lack of confidence in what you are doing. I don't mean simply ball pocketing, I'm saying shot selection, position selection. and pier pressures that come from displaying your perceived lack of surety.

Time on the table will help this over time.

Lots of players try to compensate for insecurities in their play by attempting to "hotdog" a great shot in hopes their opponent will begin to worry. That only magnifies the troubles when you miss.

Remember your opponent is worried already to some degree even if you can't see or feel his emotions. The only way you can hope to tighten him up is to play a sound game.

Make sound decisions WITHIN YOUR ABILITY LEVEL before you get down on your shots. Be comfortable with your choices before you set to shoot, and mentally see your shot executed perfectly before you take your stance to shoot.

Use all the tools in your arsenal to win. This includes playing safe. If you do feel unsure of a shot, or a resulting position, don't shoot it with mere hopes it comes out right, remember you have safety options.

I don't think its the gamble, I think its concern for your performance and I think thats two different things. They seem the same but they are not. If you address it as a fear of gambling I think you may not overcome the problem. As I said, if its true that you can dump money on slots, or lottery or poker, or anything else and not feel crushed by losing, then its not the gamble.

Losing is easy to justify if you play for fun, even if only in your own mind since you can always use the excuse you weren't really trying. So losing when gambling takes that excuse away since no one wants to lose when they are trying, and anyone gambling is trying.

Its easy to blame it on the money or the gamble, but I contend it is much more specific than that. Address the game with a focus the solid play you are capable of and shoot the shots within your means only after your choice of shot and position have been defined in you head and don't worry about losing a few bucks shooting pool. Its more fun and probably cheap than that ride to the casino anyway. :)

TX Poolnut
12-02-2007, 09:36 AM
I'm also sick of this game. I quit too.

;)
That's it. I quit too. Screw this damn game.;)

Wanna play some lawn darts Blackjack?

Scottlucasi19
12-02-2007, 09:40 AM
I have been gambling every since i started playing its all i know. My fault maybe I dunno. It's either put up or shut up. And thats just the way i cut my teeth. I gambled before i knew how to use a closed bridge. Lost alot of games for two bucks a game when i first started. So this "dunno if your ready to gamble" stuff is horse shit. Because I never had a chance not to be ready to gamble A year after i first started playing i was on the level of most of the locals and probly alittle better a short time after that. Then the past year i have dropped back down to there level and they have found a way to beat me. The only thing im disapointed in is that fact I have been on a losing streak for a long time now. And i cant seem to get out of it no matter what i do ive tried everything. Took weeks off, studied, watched matches. And it keeps going down hill when i gamble. I'm getting better i notice when im practicing, but when i match up my game gets worse. Nobody has never really taught me anything and far as inner aspects of the game maybe thats my problem maybe my mind just isnt right anymore.........And my life is going great outside of pool I just bought a brand new house, Getting a big raise in January. Most of my christmas shopping is done. So my life outside of pool is going smoothly right now. The only thing thats going bad is pool and when it goes bad it effects me 24/7, it tries to bring everything else down. I know everyone goes through slumps and plateu's. But this is getting sick guys its ridiculous.

Blackjack
12-02-2007, 09:43 AM
That's it. I quit too. Screw this damn game.;)

Wanna play some lawn darts Blackjack?

Nope. I quit and I'm joining a touring Chicken Dance troop. I will travel the world to weddings, Quincineras, and Bar Mitzvahs learning to be the best at the lost art of Chicken Dancing.


My new Chicken Dance Instuctional DVD - Safe For Work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UV3kRV46Zs)

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mrpool06
12-02-2007, 09:45 AM
I know exactly how you feel....I've been there many times! I've also watched videos, read books, practiced for hours....& still play crappy at times. I think pool takes many years to get good at.

I went 0-4 in league last week (against the #1 team). Then last night, I looked at my player rankings....I've dropped down to #34 (was tied for 2nd, dropped to 3rd, 4th, 8th, 18th.....now to #34). In all honesty, it really doesn't matter. Maybe I can fight my way back into the top 10...that is my goal.

Very very frustrating....but I'm going to pick myself up again, & keep at it.

I would avoid gambling, something I never do. Or limit it to $1.00/game at most. Maybe you can just focus on playing people (friends) better than you to take your game up a level. Or look up Scott Lee for some instruction.

Keep plugging away!! If you love pool, you'll stick with it!

cuesblues
12-02-2007, 09:50 AM
Nope. I quit and I'm joining a touring Chicken Dance troop. I will travel the world to weddings, Quincineras, and Bar Mitzvahs learning to be the best at the lost art of Chicken Dancing.


My new Chicken Dance Instuctional DVD - Safe For Work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UV3kRV46Zs)

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That's it, I'm quitting too. I am going to sell all of my sticks, and move to Pakistan.

jay helfert
12-02-2007, 10:02 AM
I'm curious why you suggest not to eat before you play.

Eating well before you play is fine, just not within an hour or so of your match. The digestive functions do not help you settle down when playing. I think if you were to ask any top player, most will tell you not to eat too soon before a match.

jay helfert
12-02-2007, 10:05 AM
Nope. I quit and I'm joining a touring Chicken Dance troop. I will travel the world to weddings, Quincineras, and Bar Mitzvahs learning to be the best at the lost art of Chicken Dancing.


My new Chicken Dance Instuctional DVD - Safe For Work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UV3kRV46Zs)

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That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen people doing! :)

And they call that "dancing"?

jay helfert
12-02-2007, 10:06 AM
Thanks guys I knew some could relate. Im meeting that guy again today at 2:00. Today is a new day, and I feel confident. Im going to beat him like a drum. Im not going to let him win a game. Im going to treat everygame like its my last. Im going to quietly and calmly destroy this guy...And then im going to take my month off.

Travis, is that you Travis? Travis, sit down and be a good boy please.

Blackjack
12-02-2007, 10:08 AM
That has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever seen people doing! :)

And they call that "dancing"?

Jay,
Late at night, in the lonely darkness of your secluded abode, you know you do.

:eek:

streak
12-02-2007, 10:14 AM
have you tried " chicken dancing " during your opponents' innings......?

jay helfert
12-02-2007, 10:15 AM
Jay,
Late at night, in the lonely darkness of your secluded abode, you know you do.

:eek:

SHHHHHHHHH

it's a secret.

sjm
12-02-2007, 10:31 AM
Nope. I quit and I'm joining a touring Chicken Dance troop. I will travel the world to weddings, Quincineras, and Bar Mitzvahs learning to be the best at the lost art of Chicken Dancing.


My new Chicken Dance Instuctional DVD - Safe For Work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UV3kRV46Zs)

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Yowser! That was a crackup. I know I don't have what it takes to be a great Chicken Dancer, so I'll aspire to be an accordionist who can play the chicken dance. Anybody have a used accordion for sale?

Billy_Bob
12-02-2007, 10:38 AM
I find that if I always play with the same cue (for years) - same brand tip, same hardness tip, and same tip shape (nickel/dime), then I get to be very consistent. I see other people get a new cue and their game goes out the window for awhile. Find the cue you like and tip you like, then stick with that forever.

If playing for money, only play against someone you KNOW you can win against at the time. If you are not playing well that evening, stop. Tomorrow is another day.

Don't play for just one game. Play for 5 games or 10 games. If you are a better player, you will win more games over time. With just one game, anyone can win. I always say it is not over until it is over. Anyone can win one game. I can win one game against the best pro. But with a race to 10, that pro will win the majority of games. And I have been beat by the worst players. But when playing many games, I win the majority.

Don't gamble with the rent or bill money. Use only money you can afford to lose. Assume you are going to lose this money. If you win, then you have more money to play with that month. If you lose, then end of gambling for that month. If I don't have enough money to pay my bills and someone wants to play me for money (even $1), I say NO! I don't have the money to spare as my fun money is spent for the month. So if no fun money, not even for one dollar! This is even if I KNOW I will win.

Then can you identify anything which happened in your playing which caused you to lose? Maybe getting angry and your playing going down hill from there? Specific shots? Missing shots? Strategy? Was the other player sharking you?

I've played against some people who can say certain things and this has caused me to play worse in the past (sharking). This was until I learned more about sharking and knew what they were trying to do. Now I am immune.

Billy_Bob
12-02-2007, 10:50 AM
Also being in a slump is a good thing! I and other players I know will do this when we learn new things. We go into a slump for awhile.

Then when we come out of the slump, we play better than ever! It never fails!

So have you learned new things recently?

RoadAgent
12-02-2007, 10:54 AM
I hate pool its the worst thing that has ever happened to my life. Tonight was another loss for me and my hard earned money. I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE. I cant focus anymore. Looking back i've wasted so much time researching and buying books, watching pro matches going through cues. I had to talk this guy into playing me because their was not anyone else to play, and he beat me. Im a natural born loser anyone can beat me. I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always. These people probly dont even know how to use the internet. I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. I read the entire book of the inner game of tennis. Watched hours of matches. I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on. I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought. Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. I thought that tonight was the night the i turned it all around and started winning alil bit, I dont want to get rich i just want to win every once in a while. But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest . This is easy. dont lay off pool .you dont have a gambling problem. CHANGE YOUR $HITY ATTITUDE. and you will play better.

5ballcharlie
12-02-2007, 11:00 AM
I hate pool its the worst thing that has ever happened to my life. Tonight was another loss for me and my hard earned money. I lost to a guy who cant run 4 balls on a bar table playing 8 ball, I used to drill this guy he hasnt even been practicing HE DONT PRACTICE. I cant focus anymore. Looking back i've wasted so much time researching and buying books, watching pro matches going through cues. I had to talk this guy into playing me because their was not anyone else to play, and he beat me. Im a natural born loser anyone can beat me. I just drop down to their level and the slowly beat me just like always. These people probly dont even know how to use the internet. I practiced on a 9 foot table all week getting ready to go down to the pool hall and win some money. I read the entire book of the inner game of tennis. Watched hours of matches. I went in to the bar early to get alil practice in before everyone got there. I was shooting like GOD I have never shot so good in my life. I could get out from anywhere, I was in the zone. It felt great. So I leave to get something to eat and take a break, and come back later on. I get a game up with this guy, who I used to beat regular about 2 years ago. Well were playing 8 ball 10 bucks no big deal, i should make a quick 50 bucks before he quits. If I shoot like i was earlier this is going to be a breeze i thought. Because i have been losing money for the past 6 months every weekend its like a 100+ dollars of my hard earned money down the drain because i cant win no matter who i play. I thought that tonight was the night the i turned it all around and started winning alil bit, I dont want to get rich i just want to win every once in a while. But nope after that first game with him my head just turns into a fog the same shit start out strong in the beginning of the rack and at the end i become a choke artist then its a snowball going downhill from there when i start noticing Hes playing with a players sneaky pete, with a dirty ferrule, he croaches like a freaking praying mantis when he shoots, he cusses at himself/ hes negative towards himself. getting mad and slamming balls like a real loser except hes winning and im quite, well mannered and polite. and he takes off with my 100 dollars. So Im admitting to everyone here that im a natural born loser i cant win and ive learned to live with it, so im quitting pool for 1 month and i dont know if i will ever play again. sorry for being so long i just had to get it off my chest .

dude grow a heart and dont quit. Quit being so scared, man up and play. Hell the worst you can do is lose and trust me there is alot worse things in the world than loosin a few bucks on a pool game.

Big Bad Bern
12-02-2007, 11:02 AM
It sounds to me like you have not learned to transfer the skills you are improving in practice to your play, and as a result when you go to gamble you are practicing instead of playing and your true game is not comming out which is causing you frustration.

Practice is practice.
Play is play
You can't practice in play.
You can't play in practice.

There is a learning process involved in taking skills and knowledge learned in practice and utilizing them confidently in games. Relax it will come. I know, it took me two years to find my way.

Bern

pool whiz
12-02-2007, 11:08 AM
take a respite....remember, pool is purely mental...come back if your focus is complete...its not the stroke that counts...its your ability to be 'in the game'!

CreeDo
12-02-2007, 02:38 PM
I like how the youtube poster of that chicken dance thing called it 'unsettling', that's the perfect word for it. lol@the dungeon-like set. "Shake those tailfeathers!"

obligatory on-topic bit:
I used to feel that all the stuff about having a good mindset and mental attitude and positive thinking was a bunch of donkeycock. But the more I play, the more I realize it's dead true. It's pretty much a scientific fact as far as I'm concerned. If I'm in a great mood and feel good about the game, I kick ass, and if my mood is tanked I can't make a ball.

The tricky part is, how do you get that cheerful attitude without forcing it? Well, AA has the phrase 'fake it until you make it' and I think it's one of the most useful little dumb rhymes ever. Pretend like you're having a good time, feeling relaxed, not worried about the cash, and shooting well... and maybe it'll somehow happen.

You may be ready for gambling but that doesn't mean you enjoy it. Ask yourself if amount of happiness you get from his ten dollars in your pocket... equals the amount of anger and frustration you get when you lose ten to him. I can already tell it doesn't. You're not walking away with enough money to mean anything, but it's enough that when you lose it you're pissed. To me that's sorta like giving the guy a big spot for no reason.

barber23
12-02-2007, 03:12 PM
The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary. Don't quit