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pulzcul
12-22-2007, 11:54 AM
Thanks to all the guys that posted their lathes and their idea's. This is the one I put together after Bigskyjake showed me the one he made. I had to build a trigger adjustment cause I bought a cheap drill at the pawn shop without one. I also built the cradle to slide for obvious reasons.I wired an off/on switch into it to make it easier to use and "presto mundo" here it is. Don:cool:

RRfireblade
12-22-2007, 12:03 PM
Oh my. :eek:


;)

buck15
12-22-2007, 12:14 PM
looks like it will get the job done!!:D

JoeW
12-22-2007, 12:22 PM
Nice lathe ideas. I did not see the prior threads.

I think I would like to make one of these.

What are you using for a chuck?

pulzcul
12-22-2007, 12:29 PM
The drill is 3/8 chuck. The bolt is a 2 in. x 1/4 thread. There is a metal washer with a hole already in the crutch cup.

Varney Cues
12-22-2007, 12:30 PM
What are you using for a chuck?

A rubber crutch tip. :eek: Its a better idea to chuck up a joint pin in the drill and spin it that way.
I will add...I don't recommend these set ups as I've had to repair far too many shafts that have been damaged numerous ways with these homemade projects.;)
Good luck though with yours...hopefully you'll not need to spend some real money with your cuemaker in the future for repairs.:)

JoeW
12-22-2007, 12:36 PM
A rubber crutch tip. :eek: Its a better idea to chuck up a joint pin in the drill and spin it that way.
I will add...I don't recommend these set ups as I've had to repair far too many shafts that have been damaged numerous ways with these homemade projects.;)
Good luck though with yours...hopefully you'll not need to spend some real money with your cuemaker in the future for repairs.:)

Thank you. I hear what you are saying about getting myself in trouble and I will be careful. Of course the last time I tried to be careful someone made money on the repairs :o so you are probably right :D

pulzcul
12-22-2007, 12:37 PM
A rubber crutch tip. :eek: Its a better idea to chuck up a joint pin in the drill and spin it that way.
I will add...I don't recommend these set ups as I've had to repair far too many shafts that have been damaged numerous ways with these homemade projects.;)
Good luck though with yours...hopefully you'll not need to spend some real money with your cuemaker in the future for repairs.:)
Granted, it has it's limitations but if you use your head it does what you expect it to do. I only work tips and clean shafts. But I do agree that joint pins would be much better and I plan on getting a set. But for now this is what I've got and I'm havin' fun. Don:cool: :)

buck15
12-22-2007, 12:55 PM
would slowing the drill soeed down help stay out of trouble??? just thought i would ask. how fast do you have to spin it for different types of repairs??

LosOsosCues
12-22-2007, 01:01 PM
Was that the rubber from the bottom of a crutch. Thats too funny.

Not bad for your first try.

hangemhigh
12-22-2007, 01:26 PM
Man,I would have loaned you $99 for a craftsman.

jondrums
12-22-2007, 01:38 PM
I've seen the kind of trouble you can get into using a drill as a lathe...

Without going into details about why, basically the cheap bearings in the spindle of the drill tend to produce a "three lobed" circle. They just aren't designed for side loading like lathe bearings are.

Anyone ever tried to make a largish hole in aluminum with a hand drill? Notice how the hole isn't very round - more like rounded triangular. That's the same phenomenon.

Don't get me wrong - I love DIY projects, and that thing might be just fine for doing tips, BUT:

I'd be fairly wary of putting anything in that "lathe" that you want to keep round. I'd never consider doing a "shaft cleaning" (sandpapering a spinning shaft) with that. But then I'll only use a magic erasor to do that since I don't like the idea of removing wood just to make my shaft look cleaner.

Jon

RRfireblade
12-22-2007, 01:49 PM
Man,I would have loaned you $99 for a craftsman.


That's what I was thinking. $89 at Harbor Freight. :)

Ky Boy
12-22-2007, 02:41 PM
That's what I was thinking. $89 at Harbor Freight. :)



The other problem bisides the using the crutch tip is the shaft rest. It is very easy to become involved with the tip and get the shaft too hot where it rests. And this will cause the wood in that particular place to expand. Otherwise, not too bad.


Gary

chuckpilegis
12-22-2007, 03:01 PM
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45276

ArizonaPete
12-22-2007, 03:05 PM
I have a very similar setup but my drill is held by a bench vise (easy to store the drill in a drawer when not in use). I used an old multi-speed drill that was almost ready to junk. I use a cane tip to mount a shaft or a crutch tip if I'm working on a one-piece cue. I just hold the ferrule end with a rag with my left hand to keep it steady and use my right hand to work with. You'll never damage a shaft that way. I've used it replace tips and ferrules. It's great using it to trim a new tip with a razor knife after it's been glued on (I use Gorilla glue for layered or solid tips). Also use it to clean and burnish my cue shaft. "Socks" recommended using an $89 wood lathe from Harbor Frieght. I do hate to spend money but I may investigate that possibility when they open a store in my area this January/February.

I highly recommend this technique to everyone because it's very inexpensive to build and does a very effective job. Keep safety and common sense in mind when using the setup and you shouldn't have any problems.

SCCues
12-22-2007, 03:23 PM
Granted, it has it's limitations but if you use your head it does what you expect it to do. I only work tips and clean shafts. But I do agree that joint pins would be much better and I plan on getting a set. But for now this is what I've got and I'm havin' fun. Don:cool: :)
I started my cue repair work with a home made shaft lathe and i'd highly recommend that you get the correct joint pins for the shafts you'll be working on. One source for them is http://www.porper.com/index.cfm/fuseAction/Catalog.Product/productID/136.cfm?CFID=1358525&CFTOKEN=9413b44e134ad70c-03EF52E6-20ED-7D0A-C0D45507CDA3D9B2
After doing a few jobs with my home made lathe I bought a cue lathe from Chris Hightower and i've used it for many years and it's paid for itself with money i've made doing local cue repair jobs. I enjoy working on cues and I now have the knowledge to keep my cues in perfect condition which is what got me started to begin with. There just weren't any local cue repair people who i'd trust with my custom cue repairs so I learned how to do it myself and i'm glad I did. Good luck with your new hobby........

James

rayjay
12-22-2007, 04:27 PM
Here's mine....

Johnnyt
12-22-2007, 04:52 PM
Granted, it has it's limitations but if you use your head it does what you expect it to do. I only work tips and clean shafts. But I do agree that joint pins would be much better and I plan on getting a set. But for now this is what I've got and I'm havin' fun. Don:cool: :)

And I've had many as patients in my ER from stuff like this. Johnnyt

catscradle
12-22-2007, 04:53 PM
A rubber crutch tip. :eek: Its a better idea to chuck up a joint pin in the drill and spin it that way.
I will add...I don't recommend these set ups as I've had to repair far too many shafts that have been damaged numerous ways with these homemade projects.;)
Good luck though with yours...hopefully you'll not need to spend some real money with your cuemaker in the future for repairs.:)

As Dirty Harry said "A man's got to know his own limitations."
Like any tool as long as he doesn't try to exceed the tools capabilities everything should be okay.

JimS
12-22-2007, 04:55 PM
I've been using the drill w/crutch tip "lathe" for about 5 years and I've put on several tips and cleaned a bunch of shafts using a Magic Eraser and the drill lathe.

My drill has a variable speed lock on switch so I can run it very slow (slow is BEST!!) and I found an extension cord at Lowes that has a switch on it so I avoided doing wiring. I have it attached to a board with a bungee cord and I hold the tip end in a towel as shown above. I was worried about holding the end in that fashion but it works great.

I wanted something to spin a shaft and that's what it does and does well. I'm very happy with it.

bnall
12-22-2007, 05:38 PM
I use one of these with my drill lathe set up. That way I can control the speed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROUTER-SPEED-CONTROL-INSTANT-Variable-Speed-Tool_W0QQitemZ130138968126QQihZ003QQcategoryZ20781 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

hemicudas
12-22-2007, 05:46 PM
This is the one I made. Motor cost $10 on ebay.

JimS
12-22-2007, 07:33 PM
Bill: What's holding the joint end of the shaft?

hemicudas
12-22-2007, 07:56 PM
Bill: What's holding the joint end of the shaft?

These you can also get on ebay, Jim. With shipping the set was about $16.

pulzcul
12-23-2007, 11:37 AM
I've seen the kind of trouble you can get into using a drill as a lathe...

Without going into details about why, basically the cheap bearings in the spindle of the drill tend to produce a "three lobed" circle. They just aren't designed for side loading like lathe bearings are.

Anyone ever tried to make a largish hole in aluminum with a hand drill? Notice how the hole isn't very round - more like rounded triangular. That's the same phenomenon.

Don't get me wrong - I love DIY projects, and that thing might be just fine for doing tips, BUT:

I'd be fairly wary of putting anything in that "lathe" that you want to keep round. I'd never consider doing a "shaft cleaning" (sandpapering a spinning shaft) with that. But then I'll only use a magic erasor to do that since I don't like the idea of removing wood just to make my shaft look cleaner.

Jon


Actually I use the magic eraser too. And then I use a jewelers abrasive kit to "sand the shaft".8 pads from 1500 grit to 12000. The shaft shines and feels like glass with minimul material lost.Initially I was scared to "work on" my good shafts so I practised on the "Wilson". No great loss if I scewed it up,but It works better than I thought so now I'm doing the shafts for my Lebow without reservations. Don

pulzcul
12-23-2007, 11:40 AM
The other problem bisides the using the crutch tip is the shaft rest. It is very easy to become involved with the tip and get the shaft too hot where it rests. And this will cause the wood in that particular place to expand. Otherwise, not too bad.


Gary
I found that if you put your finger on the shaft where it sits on the rest you can monitor the heat easily.

JoeW
12-23-2007, 12:07 PM
These you can also get on ebay, Jim. With shipping the set was about $16.

Now that is a cool idea.

I think I bought something like this at Home Depot. There are connectors for 000 electrical wire (or some such weird number) that are used to connect the main service wires from the mast to the house meter. They look very similar to what you have shown. I bet that they could be rigged to do the job. Of course finding the screws might take more looking.

To make a similar rig with a small pipe and a tap would not be too much trouble either. Neat ideas, thanks again.

HollyWood
12-23-2007, 01:06 PM
I use a bosch 1/2 inch with joint protectors and collars, and for portable use I use my dewalt 24 volt. I use a wood clamp for motor control. On the dewalt I use the pistol grip and pivot it to 150 degrees and the drill lays out horizonal. A little quick release clamp-800rpm or 2000 rpm. The best type to copy is the porper-the large steel tubes wood lathe motor and you can use different size jaw chucks-(there are many kinds I prefer the centering type, and remember there are soft jaw types that don't damage your cues and stuff. This way you have a way to attach the cutter tools and a taper bar. Go see your local gunsmith he will show you things you haven't ever seen (fixtures for each process) they accurately turn steel- woods nothing and they have wood knowledge as well .Making stocks refinishing etc. I have used the drill methods 30 yrs. If you are not mech. inclined pay to have it done. If money was no problem clausing lathes - This is just the tooling then you need to learn How to accurately,face the ferrule,and what type of threads for threaded ferrules, glues, For the best hitting tip and ferrule and it does make a difference.mark

eddieindetroit
12-23-2007, 01:27 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~olderiron/images/d56.jpg

hemicudas
12-23-2007, 01:35 PM
I admire the way you splurged for the hose clamps instead of duct tape. The German suits were real high on that when they bought Chrysler. Sadly this decision alone resulted in the elimination of more than 12000 SE Michigan jobs.

http://home.comcast.net/~olderiron/images/dlogo.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~olderiron/images/d3.jpg

You might want to read your post again, eddie. You insinuate that Detroit used duct tape before Daimler Benz bought Chrysler out. It's believeable too.