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cuetechasaurus
01-14-2008, 09:09 AM
I think this would be huge. Have them play in a neutral location, like Europe. They should play a similar format like Yang vs Orcullo, but 10ball instead of 9ball, and for $50,000 or more, instead of 10. I'm sure this would be huge in Taiwan, them thinking the USA is off the pool map, then out of nowhere their own superstar gets challenged by an American kid from South Dakota. In their minds they would probably be drooling at the chance to show their superiority to the USA. I personally think they would be in for quite a shock.

Another thing to think about is that Shane has pretty much revived the hope in American pool for many people over here. I'm sure after the DCC, people all over the USA would climbing over one another to watch this match. I'm sure that an event like this would probably create a ton of exposure internationally. What do you all think? Would this ever happen?

JoeyInCali
01-14-2008, 09:19 AM
It wouldn't be huge in Europe.
In Taiwan it'd sell out.

ioCross
01-14-2008, 10:03 AM
i dont think shane is a prohibitive favorite in that match up

jay helfert
01-14-2008, 10:20 AM
Bustamante is one player Shane has conspicuously avoided. Francisco is and has been one of the most feared money players for years. I'd like to see that match. And Johnny has challenged Shane to a big money match in his poolroom. He was the number one player in the USA for a long, long time. And you still must take his crown on the table, not in the forums.

Alex is also a great match for Shane, but the three wins at DCC have diminished the luster for this one. Shane is leading 71-64 right now and by 15K!

After Shane finishes with the top filipinos, then he can challenge the top Taiwanese, like Yang. Remember Shane got a loss pinned on him by Kiamco in Manila. No one can take on one top player after another and not get beaten occasionally.

One more player right here in the U.S that may be more than a handful for Shane is Rodney. He has a high gear that I have only seen in a few players like Earl, Mark Tadd and Johnny.

punter
01-14-2008, 10:28 AM
Shane was set to play Bustamante at DCC, and IIRC, Bustamante pulled out and was replaced by Alex. So I wouldn't say SVB was avoiding Bustamante.

The Beginner
01-14-2008, 10:45 AM
Shane was set to play Bustamante at DCC, and IIRC, Bustamante pulled out and was replaced by Alex. So I wouldn't say SVB was avoiding Bustamante.


the reason Busta pulled out because he has an early match the next day...look what he end up """"winning the master of the table" for $20,000 + 8K for finishing 2nd on 9 ball game ....if he plays w/ SVB that night for just 5K he could have won it for just 5K or LOST it....i think busta is smart..he knows that there's more time to play w/ SVB ..i think busta was smart enough to made his decision to pulled out that night....

Alex Kanapilly
01-14-2008, 11:00 AM
the reason Busta pulled out because he has an early match the next day...look what he end up """"winning the master of the table" for $20,000 + 8K for finishing 2nd on 9 ball game ....if he plays w/ SVB that night for just 5K he could have won it for just 5K or LOST it....i think busta is smart..he knows that there's more time to play w/ SVB ..i think busta was smart enough to made his decision to pulled out that night....

Yes, all of that is true, but Shane didn't avoid him. Not this year anyway.

The Beginner
01-14-2008, 11:01 AM
Yes, all of that is true, but Shane didn't avoid him. Not this year anyway.


Did i say Shane avoided busta?

punter
01-14-2008, 11:04 AM
the reason Busta pulled out because he has an early match the next day...look what he end up """"winning the master of the table" for $20,000 + 8K for finishing 2nd on 9 ball game ....if he plays w/ SVB that night for just 5K he could have won it for just 5K or LOST it....i think busta is smart..he knows that there's more time to play w/ SVB ..i think busta was smart enough to made his decision to pulled out that night....

I agree with you. I did not mean to imply Bustamante was avoiding SVB, just that they had been scheduled to play so SVB was not avoiding Busty.

Alex Kanapilly
01-14-2008, 02:00 PM
Did i say Shane avoided busta?

Did I say you said Shane avoided busta?

Read back, you responded to punter who (I think) was responding to Jay, who in fact did say Shane had avoided Bustamonte in (at least in the past).

punter
01-14-2008, 02:03 PM
Did I say you said Shane avoided busta?

Read back, you responded to punter who (I think) was responding to Jay, who in fact did say Shane had avoided Bustamonte in (at least in the past).

Thank you for clearing that up !!;)

jay helfert
01-14-2008, 02:07 PM
My mistake here. It is correct that Shane and Busti were going to play, until the tournament got in the way. Alex was the replacement, and Shane bombed him for 15 dimes. I just think Busti would be a slightly stronger opponent right now for a variety of reasons I won't go into.

renard
01-14-2008, 02:18 PM
I think this would be huge. Have them play in a neutral location, like Europe. They should play a similar format like Yang vs Orcullo, but 10ball instead of 9ball, and for $50,000 or more, instead of 10. I'm sure this would be huge in Taiwan, them thinking the USA is off the pool map, then out of nowhere their own superstar gets challenged by an American kid from South Dakota. In their minds they would probably be drooling at the chance to show their superiority to the USA. I personally think they would be in for quite a shock.

Another thing to think about is that Shane has pretty much revived the hope in American pool for many people over here. I'm sure after the DCC, people all over the USA would climbing over one another to watch this match. I'm sure that an event like this would probably create a ton of exposure internationally. What do you all think? Would this ever happen?

Can't do it. It's against the rules. Rule one and I quote, "Must be held at a site that Scott can watch the match on TAR." End quote

Carry on... :D

smokeandapancak
01-14-2008, 02:58 PM
Can't do it. It's against the rules. Rule one and I quote, "Must be held at a site that Scott can watch the match on TAR." End quote

Carry on... :D


Screw that. :D ... I got a room over here that would be perfect for it to go off in....

tpdtom
01-14-2008, 03:40 PM
Remember Shane got a loss pinned on him by Kiamco in Manila. No one can take on one top player after another and not get beaten occasionally.

One more player right here in the U.S that may be more than a handful for Shane is Rodney. He has a high gear that I have only seen in a few players like Earl, Mark Tadd and Johnny.

Words of wisdom people. Shane is going to have his losses, however, he DOES seem to find his high gear in these matches when he needs it. When he hit his highest gear that I saw, he put a 6 or 7 Pack on Corey in 10 Ball :eek: . He got to 90 in that race to 100 and just went directly into the zone ! Now that's high gear...Tom

renard
01-14-2008, 04:41 PM
Screw that. :D ... I got a room over here that would be perfect for it to go off in....

Well, I'll leak to the German press that Shane is a devout and practicing Scientologist. Also I'll add he's using pool as his pulpit and the stakes go toward a huge 150,000 square foot place of worship. :D

Oh yeah, then it will stay in the continental U.S.! :p

All lies but hey a guys gotta do what a guys gotta do for his TAR fix.

The Beginner
01-14-2008, 04:50 PM
I would like to see WU vs SVB 10 ball race 50 for $20K ..they have almost the same break. will see who's the better champion :)

abbassi
01-14-2008, 05:25 PM
Some players would have a better chance against Shane if they played say back-pocket 10 ball. His one pocket game is not great yet, and someone with a good one pocket game might have a chance.

DeadPoked
01-14-2008, 06:08 PM
Shane did say earlier in the day before the match with Busta was setup that he didn't think he was ready for Busta and he mentioned Franciscos break being the biggest factor in why. I didn't think he was going try matching up with him yet. But he decided later that he would play him. Shane considers Bustamante to be his biggest challenge.

Another interesting tidbit of info is that Shane had said he wanted to play Efren and the only game that Efren would play him was 9-7 1 hole and they said Shane could bet what he wanted... That's like having a thief say he was going to rob you at this date & time and that you can carry on you as much as you could carry. That was a bad game. Efren hasn't been playing his best and I was not surprised that he didn't want to play Shane.

f210
01-14-2008, 06:25 PM
Shane vs

Busta
Orcullo
Yang
Alcano

All would be great matchup's IMO

Lee Van Corteza, Marlon Manalo and Roberto Gomez are worthy contenders too

Per this link, Superman recently beat Souquet, CS Yang, Rodney Morris and CW Fu in an event held in Taiwan. He eventually placed 2nd behind young Pin Yi KO.

Here is the source:

http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.cfm?storynum=5018

derekdisco
01-14-2008, 07:24 PM
I think this would be huge. Have them play in a neutral location, like Europe. They should play a similar format like Yang vs Orcullo, but 10ball instead of 9ball, and for $50,000 or more, instead of 10. I'm sure this would be huge in Taiwan, them thinking the USA is off the pool map, then out of nowhere their own superstar gets challenged by an American kid from South Dakota. In their minds they would probably be drooling at the chance to show their superiority to the USA. I personally think they would be in for quite a shock.

Another thing to think about is that Shane has pretty much revived the hope in American pool for many people over here. I'm sure after the DCC, people all over the USA would climbing over one another to watch this match. I'm sure that an event like this would probably create a ton of exposure internationally. What do you all think? Would this ever happen?

Shanes break makes him nothing less than even money vs anyone. The heat he puts on you is worth a ball by itself.

renard
01-14-2008, 07:35 PM
Shanes break makes him nothing less than even money vs anyone. The heat he puts on you is worth a ball by itself.

By the way Derek great job in the booth!!! (Knuckle bump) :D

B_White
01-14-2008, 08:27 PM
Obviously you guys did not see how weak Shane got against John H. He missed 4 straight in 10 balls in half an hour. If he gets even half that weak against any of the guys ya'll are mentioning he will get ROBBED, ROBBED, ROBBED!

frankwhite
01-14-2008, 09:51 PM
I know that I saw it!

Shane is human, he is the best player ever to live like some may want you to believe. Pagulayan also hung in all 3 sets while playing bad.

Shane will have to step it up alot if he wants to keep playing Champions


Listen, this kid is just going to get better and better!!! The more he plays these champs the better he is going to get. His skin gets more thick as the sets go on, so IMO just keep linning them up.....My stew is on SVB.
Frankie

Alex Kanapilly
01-15-2008, 11:36 AM
Well, I'll leak to the German press that Shane is a devout and practicing Scientologist. Also I'll add he's using pool as his pulpit and the stakes go toward a huge 150,000 square foot place of worship. :D

Oh yeah, then it will stay in the continental U.S.! :p

All lies but hey a guys gotta do what a guys gotta do for his TAR fix.

You are funny as hell. lol.

!Smorgass Bored
01-15-2008, 12:28 PM
"Shane and Yang Need to Play"


Weren't those two Chinese panda bears ?
Doug

cuetechasaurus
01-17-2008, 05:05 AM
Bustamante is one player Shane has conspicuously avoided. Francisco is and has been one of the most feared money players for years. I'd like to see that match. And Johnny has challenged Shane to a big money match in his poolroom. He was the number one player in the USA for a long, long time. And you still must take his crown on the table, not in the forums.

Alex is also a great match for Shane, but the three wins at DCC have diminished the luster for this one. Shane is leading 71-64 right now and by 15K!

After Shane finishes with the top filipinos, then he can challenge the top Taiwanese, like Yang. Remember Shane got a loss pinned on him by Kiamco in Manila. No one can take on one top player after another and not get beaten occasionally.

One more player right here in the U.S that may be more than a handful for Shane is Rodney. He has a high gear that I have only seen in a few players like Earl, Mark Tadd and Johnny.

It's been a while since anyone mentioned Rodney. What has he been doing? Is he still playing pool full time?

And Jay how great of a match do you think Shane vs Yang would be? I think it would be awesome. Yang has already shown that he fears nobody.

predator
01-17-2008, 05:51 AM
Does Yang even play 10ball? I have never seen him break from the middle anyway.

gcgaryyoyo
02-05-2008, 04:28 PM
To begin with, I'm Taiwanese, but this post does not represent the opinion from Taiwanese pool fans as a whole.

Yang has been considered the best 9-ball player in Taiwan for almost the entire past decade, but now he's faced with a lot more challengers that are either the same age as him or just young and up n' coming like Wu, which shows that he's not as dominate as he ever used to.

I think Yang's weakness lies in the lack of all-around skills; he does not play any game other than 9ball (he competed in 8ball a few years ago and did do well), and he's always thought of as the best shot-making(aggressive) player but a rather mediocare safety and finesse player, both of which are vital for a player as he grows older and gradually loses his shotmaking ability/runout power.

True as some say the best defense is offense since it does not give your opponent even a chance to come back to the table but you can't be in stroke every single time and you have to pass on some tough shots by playing safeties. I have yet to see those improvements in Yang's game.

Another thing is that he doesn't compete abroad nearly as frequently as any player at his level; this is, however, not really his fault. No sponsorship for players in Taiwan, on top of lack of language ability(English), really prevents those pool gems in Taiwan from coming overseas to showcase their games, as well as learn from players in other continents who play with different styles, on a regular basis like Philippinos do.

Don't get me wrong though, Yang is still one of the best in Taiwan, as I mentioned above, and FEARED by his fellow players when it comes to playing for dough. It's just a pity to see such talent get wasted.

Oops maybe I should comment on the possible future matchup between Yang and SVB in order to fit in this topic? I think SVB is a great player but needs to be tested by time because this "SVB hype" only came up about a little more than a year ago; it's a good thing to see that he tries to play all kinds of games and that he does well in tournaments as well as money games, which in my humble opinion is the real definition of a great player. OK I'll be lame and say it's a coin toss!

storke
02-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Obviously you guys did not see how weak Shane got against John H. He missed 4 straight in 10 balls in half an hour. If he gets even half that weak against any of the guys ya'll are mentioning he will get ROBBED, ROBBED, ROBBED!
I have never seen a player champion or not that didn't miss balls. And I don't think he played bad. What happened so we can be clear is he was giving weight to a guy who fell in dead stroke and he felt the pressure.

Danktrees
02-05-2008, 05:55 PM
i vote for kuo vs. shane