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Rubyron
01-29-2008, 02:30 PM
Just noticed this match on IPT website.

TannerPruess
01-29-2008, 02:56 PM
Anybody like Morris? PM me.

MVPCues
01-29-2008, 02:59 PM
Anybody like Morris? PM me.


I like him, I think he is a nice guy....but that isn't what you mean. :)


Kelly

iba7467
01-29-2008, 03:01 PM
I'll play you pick and lay 6:5 PM me.

Klopek
01-29-2008, 03:02 PM
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TannerPruess
01-29-2008, 03:03 PM
I'll play you pick and lay 6:5 PM me.
I'll play a better game, you pick and lay 12:1.

Darn I'm bad with fractions... I'm only betting even on this...

BlowFish
01-29-2008, 03:17 PM
I'm on the winners' (Manalo's) side. :D :D :D

abbassi
01-29-2008, 03:36 PM
Even match I would say.

Terry Ardeno
01-29-2008, 04:45 PM
I Like Rodney but if Marlon catches a gear, he's unstoppable.

Agree.
The thing about Marlon though is as of late, he's spent more & more time at his home room in the Philippines while Rodney has still been "in the arena."
This is a very even match up from my perspective. I could make a strong case for either one of them.

jimmy-leggs
01-29-2008, 04:48 PM
All I have to say is........................Tanner,you are way to cool with those shades on.;) :p

bud green
01-29-2008, 07:54 PM
Do you have to put credit card info on the IPT site or anything to watch this?

Sorry, I'm too lazy to try and sign up and find out on page 3 you need to give personal info to KT.

Thanks.

I really have no idea who would be favored in this. Marlon was ruling the world for a while then seemed to disappear. Even Orcullo seems to have dropped off the map a bit. Visa problems?

p1noy
01-29-2008, 08:05 PM
newbie here.. this is a good match up.. does anyone know how they figure out who plays who?

beetle
01-29-2008, 08:14 PM
Wow, of all the people to play in the IPT exhibition, Rodney would have been last on my list. He was really steaming at what Trudeau had done, and perhaps the most vocal about it. I am glad he's doing this since he's one of my favorite players to watch. I have to pick Manalo on this one though.

I predict Trudeau will not be in town again!

digitalcrack
01-29-2008, 08:21 PM
It depends who breaks better.

wayne
01-29-2008, 08:33 PM
Wow, of all the people to play in the IPT exhibition, Rodney would have been last on my list. He was really steaming at what Trudeau had done, and perhaps the most vocal about it.

Yeah, but after you get paid the $150,000 you were owed then you tend to lighten up a bit.

The Beginner
01-29-2008, 09:06 PM
Agree.
The thing about Marlon though is as of late, he's spent more & more time at his home room in the Philippines while Rodney has still been "in the arena."
This is a very even match up from my perspective. I could make a strong case for either one of them.


its scary if those filipino pool players stays on their home territory most of the time because as soon you unleash them they will be unstoppable :)

Klopek
01-29-2008, 09:14 PM
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ledrums
01-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Both of these guys are very very streaky players.

Either one has the ability to completely dominate a match.
Didn't mean to quote you, but who is that in your avatar?

AnitoKid
01-29-2008, 09:22 PM
I'm with The Marvelous One!


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bigskyjake
01-29-2008, 09:24 PM
All I have to say is........................Tanner,you are way to cool with those shades on.;) :p


He's got the junior Billy Badass look going :D

TannerPruess
01-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Still looking to take Manalo, PM me.

The Beginner
01-29-2008, 09:57 PM
newbie here.. this is a good match up.. does anyone know how they figure out who plays who?

WELCOME to the forum Pare lol..you will enjoy this forum....

p1noy
01-29-2008, 10:46 PM
WELCOME to the forum Pare lol..you will enjoy this forum....

I'm a newbie at posting but a veteran lurker.. hehe:)

beav99_4life
01-29-2008, 11:41 PM
I for one refuse to watch any of their exhibition matches. Theres no way in hell i'm going to log on there and give his website hits that he is showing to sponsors to get them to invest money.

worriedbeef
01-30-2008, 12:24 AM
slightly surprising as somebody has already said to see morris playing - he was very vocal about the late payment issue before. suppose it just shows the IPT are being reasonable about it all though. kind of a "we don't blame you for being pissed off so we're not gonna hold it against you" school of thought. and likewise rodney is probably thinking well i've been paid now, let's give it a shot.

I for one refuse to watch any of their exhibition matches. Theres no way in hell i'm going to log on there and give his website hits that he is showing to sponsors to get them to invest money.

Why? Why is the IPT failing a good thing for pool? Why is getting sponsors to invest in a multi-million dollar tour for our game a bad thing?

mindtriplx
01-30-2008, 12:59 AM
ill take manalo for $50 through paypal.

Snapshot9
01-30-2008, 05:35 AM
want to bring a point or two. Rodney is a better money player than tournament player. He, too, has a reputation of being able to get there for the cash. And if Rodney is in stroke, Manalo doesn't have to like it.

beav99_4life
01-30-2008, 06:52 AM
Why? Why is the IPT failing a good thing for pool? Why is getting sponsors to invest in a multi-million dollar tour for our game a bad thing?

Its just my opinion. I refuse to help someone like KT make money off of pool players anymore. If the players dont mind it, thats fine and I wish them the best. But KT's actions and character are what i'm considering as a consumer.

f210
01-30-2008, 07:33 AM
its scary if those filipino pool players stays on their home territory most of the time because as soon you unleash them they will be unstoppable :)

Per this article, they have formed an organization that will help Filipino players acquire visas. We should be expecting the likes of Roberto Gomez and Jeff De Luna soon. Here is the link:

http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.cfm?storynum=5060

f210
01-30-2008, 07:36 AM
want to bring a point or two. Rodney is a better money player than tournament player. He, too, has a reputation of being able to get there for the cash. And if Rodney is in stroke, Manalo doesn't have to like it.

You may have a point there. Manalo is one of the rare Filipinos who does not gamble. However, he is very steady and I like his game better so I will go for Manalo.

12squared
01-30-2008, 07:43 AM
You may have a point there. Manalo is one of the rare Filipinos who does not gamble. However, he is very steady and I like his game better so I will go for Manalo.

Manalo doesn't gamble? I was in Reno a couple/few years ago and Manalo gave Tony Chohan the 8 playing some ahead 9-ball set for 5k jelly beans. That's the only time I saw Manalo live and he gambled. I've never seen him do anythig else :p :D.

No_English
01-30-2008, 08:42 AM
Manalo doesn't gamble? I was in Reno a couple/few years ago and Manalo gave Tony Chohan the 8 playing some ahead 9-ball set for 5k jelly beans. That's the only time I saw Manalo live and he gambled. I've never seen him do anythig else :p :D.

who won this match?

DoomCue
01-30-2008, 09:52 AM
I for one refuse to watch any of their exhibition matches. Theres no way in hell i'm going to log on there and give his website hits that he is showing to sponsors to get them to invest money.
Isn't that cutting off your nose to spite your face? By all accounts, KT has LOST money with his IPT venture.

-djb <-- thinks you're missing a chance to watch a good match

Handsumm
01-30-2008, 10:11 AM
Isn't that cutting off your nose to spite your face? By all accounts, KT has LOST money with his IPT venture.

-djb <-- thinks you're missing a chance to watch a good match
Are you sure about that?

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 10:15 AM
I happen to like Rodney in this particular match.

DoomCue
01-30-2008, 10:28 AM
Are you sure about that?
You don't seriously think that someone paying POOL PLAYERS millions of dollars actually made a profit? That must explain why he's doing $5k challenge matches about once a month now - he's just raking it in.

-djb

Wazuela
01-30-2008, 11:26 AM
I like Morris and all...... But he has no chance against Manalo.:p

iba7467
01-30-2008, 12:12 PM
I happen to like Rodney in this particular match.

You like him for $50 even?

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 12:32 PM
You like him for $50 even?

Yes, I do. I even like him for a $100.

iba7467
01-30-2008, 12:34 PM
Yes, I do. I even like him for a $100.

I like that even better. You've got action, Jay.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 01:05 PM
I like that even better. You've got action, Jay.

Cool iba. I can sweat it now.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 01:10 PM
Cool iba. I can sweat it now.

You know I just want to say I really like guys like iba, Beetle, Dead Poked, Nostroke and a few others who you can make a bet with and not go thru all the hemming and hawing. All that woofing wears me out.

The way I look at it is you either like a bet or you don't. If I do, I will and if I don't I won't. Not too complicated but some people make it seem like it's the hardest decision of their life. We aren't getting married here folks. We're just sweating a pool game. :D

corvette1340
01-30-2008, 01:12 PM
You know I just want to say I really like guys like iba, Beetle, Dead Poked, Nostroke and a few others who you can make a bet with and not go thru all the hemming and hawing. All that woofing wears me out.

The way I look at it is you either like a bet or you don't. If I do, I will and if I don't I won't. Not too complicated but some people make it seem like it's the hardest decision of their life. We aren't getting married here folks. We're just sweating a pool game. :D


damn, you not gonna lump me in there? I'm probably the biggest internet sweat bet loser on here. I've lost to almost every poster! You still owe me a dinner when we meet too, lol.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 01:14 PM
damn, you not gonna lump me in there? I'm probably the biggest internet sweat bet loser on here. I've lost to almost every poster!

Oh, and Corvette Tommy, the biggest sucker on here. Man I wish I lived closer to you. I'd just follow you around all day long and make sweat bets with you. :)

iba7467
01-30-2008, 01:54 PM
damn, you not gonna lump me in there? I'm probably the biggest internet sweat bet loser on here. I've lost to almost every poster! You still owe me a dinner when we meet too, lol.

You just keep booking losers with me and we'll be just great. J/K corvette. Do you like Morris or Manalo here?

corvette1340
01-30-2008, 01:58 PM
You just keep booking losers with me and we'll be just great. J/K corvette. Do you like Morris or Manalo here?

I like Manalo.

BlowFish
01-30-2008, 02:11 PM
Damn, I was late on that one Jay... :(

Anyone else wanting Morris side? There are 3 more guys wanting Manalo: Tanner, Corvette and myself.

I'm on Manalo's side, I'll bet $100. Any takers?

12squared
01-30-2008, 02:35 PM
who won this match?

Manalo won. Tony missed a very makable ball to get him on the hill and then proceded to lose to a very strong Manalo. That year Manalo won the Reno Open & the Hard Times Jamboree 9-ball event the next weekend. He had a very good 2 weeks.

Dave

Johnnyt
01-30-2008, 02:45 PM
This match isn't until March 5th. Hope Tar har something I can sweat before them.:D Johnnyt

uwate
01-30-2008, 03:20 PM
I also like Manalo in this game. I already got a little down on this with poster who is good action, but I certainly would take more.

beav99_4life
01-30-2008, 03:42 PM
Isn't that cutting off your nose to spite your face? By all accounts, KT has LOST money with his IPT venture.

-djb <-- thinks you're missing a chance to watch a good match

No one really knows how much he lost. I'm more than willing to miss a great match if it means sticking to my morals and beliefs. The more people that watch, the better chance it gives KT to make money off of it. And with his record and reputation, how long do you think it will be til he does something else scandalous? Everything he touches turns bad and I will not be a part of it. If the IPT blows up and gets pool going in the right direction and benefits the players and fans, i'll be as thrilled as anyone for the sport. But I will do nothing that helps KT.

Roy Steffensen
01-30-2008, 03:53 PM
I like Rodney Morris in this match... But my heart says to never bet against a Filipino, so I will atleast wait one more month before I choose my horse :)

The stats:
Rodney Morris has won 30 matches in the IPT, and 56% of his games. He has 127 B&R, and 1 time 8 on the break.

Marlon Manalo has won 28 matches in the IPT, and 59% of his games. He has 76 B&R, and 4 times 8 on the break.

The facts:
The pricemoney of 5000 $ is between 1 - 1,5 monthly average salary in the States (I guess), and it is between 15 and 20 monthly average salaries in the Philippines.

dabarbr
01-30-2008, 04:27 PM
I happen to like Rodney in this particular match.
Be careful Jay. You know players of this caliber are pretty much equal in their skills but the difference is that Manalo is probably the best eight ball player out there on the big table. Of all the IPT players his eight ball game impressed me the most. Barring none. IMO

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Damn, I was late on that one Jay... :(

Anyone else wanting Morris side? There are 3 more guys wanting Manalo: Tanner, Corvette and myself.

I'm on Manalo's side, I'll bet $100. Any takers?

I got you covered FISH! :D

$100 is cool. I've got the weak guy, Morris.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 06:01 PM
I also like Manalo in this game. I already got a little down on this with poster who is good action, but I certainly would take more.

You want $100 with me Dave?

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 06:03 PM
Be careful Jay. You know players of this caliber are pretty much equal in their skills but the difference is that Manalo is probably the best eight ball player out there on the big table. Of all the IPT players his eight ball game impressed me the most. Barring none. IMO


Thanks Frank. I agree with you, but there is more to handicapping this match then meets the eye. Nuff said!

corvette1340
01-30-2008, 07:04 PM
Thanks Frank. I agree with you, but there is more to handicapping this match then meets the eye. Nuff said!


Once again we are thinking alike Jay. I did put a very small sweat bet on Manalo, but it would certainly benefit the IPT to have Morris win this match since the Phillipino won the last one over a US player. It would even out the East vs West matches and create more attention in US players competing in these challenge matches as they move toward the PPV stages that will surely come. Hmmmmm........Conspiracy theorists, discuss.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 07:06 PM
Once again we are thinking alike Jay. I did put a very small sweat bet on Manalo, but it would certainly benefit the IPT to have Morris win this match since the Phillipino won the last one over a US player. It would even out the East vs West matches and create more attention in US players competing in these challenge matches as they move toward the PPV stages that will surely come. Hmmmmm........Conspiracy theorists, discuss.


That isn't what I'm talking about at all. Rodney will have to win this match, but I think he can and will.

corvette1340
01-30-2008, 07:13 PM
That isn't what I'm talking about at all. Rodney will have to win this match, but I think he can and will.


lol, I was just throwing that out there so if Rodney won then I could look like a genius and have a reason to ***** about losing again.

Ktown D
01-30-2008, 07:28 PM
That isn't what I'm talking about at all. Rodney will have to win this match, but I think he can and will.
I'll sweat 50 with you Jay. I got MM, Let me know.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 07:29 PM
I'll sweat 50 with you Jay. I got MM, Let me know.

You're down man, for $50.

Ktown D
01-30-2008, 07:34 PM
You're down man, for $50.
Cool.... I couldn't get down on the last one without taking Corey plus 4games and I still got trailered. I kinda figured I would though, had a bad feeling.

jay helfert
01-30-2008, 07:38 PM
Hey guys, if we have a bet please confirm on here. Blowfish, uwate. iba and Ktown are both good.

beetle
01-30-2008, 08:20 PM
Hey guys, if we have a bet please confirm on here. Blowfish, uwate. iba and Ktown are both good.

Jay, I'll bet $100 on Manalo.

TannerPruess
01-30-2008, 08:36 PM
Hey guys, if we have a bet please confirm on here. Blowfish, uwate. iba and Ktown are both good.
We have a bet.

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 12:30 AM
Jay, I'll bet $100 on Manalo.

Okay Beetle, you got a bet. Who's next? I'm going up to $1,000 total on this match. The book is still open.

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 12:32 AM
We have a bet.

Tanner, we confirmed via PM, which is fine also.

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 12:34 AM
I got more action here in a day, than in a month of jabbering with Joy Boy!
He wouldn't bet two big dogs could whip a little one, unless he got odds and free dog food. :)

Roy Steffensen
01-31-2008, 12:35 AM
100 $ on Manalo Jay, if that's ok with you.

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 12:39 AM
100 $ on Manalo Jay, if that's ok with you.]


Here they come, out of the woodwork. Sure Roy, you have a bet. This is beginning to remind me of the Thrilla in Manila, when Dennis fainted against Yang. Only cost me 1K. :cool:

Roy Steffensen
01-31-2008, 12:55 AM
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Here they come, out of the woodwork. Sure Roy, you have a bet. This is beginning to remind me of the Thrilla in Manila, when Dennis fainted against Yang. Only cost me 1K. :cool:

I really don't like Manalo in this match, but since TannerPruess bet on Manalo I'm just all-in :D

I have 2 rules in betting:

1. Never bet against TannerPruess
2. Never bet against a Filipino

I can't lose this bet

mutchnick
01-31-2008, 04:07 AM
Hi Jay,

I'll take 100 on Manalo. Paypal is good.

Corvette Scott

corvette1340
01-31-2008, 05:18 AM
Jay,
I'll take $50 on Manalo just to have a sweat bet with you since I already have a couple of other bets on him if you'd like.

uwate
01-31-2008, 07:02 AM
You want $100 with me Dave?
Sure Jay, sounds good. Your down for a Cnote. You got Morris and I got Manalo.

This sure is like deja vu though...lets see everyone wants one guy...Jay is taking the other side. hmmm <cue Derek Disco's Hitler video>

corvette1340
01-31-2008, 07:05 AM
Sure Jay, sounds good. Your down for a Cnote. You got Morris and I got Manalo.

This sure is like deja vu though...lets see everyone wants one guy...Jay is taking the other side. hmmm <cue Derek Disco's Hitler video>


yeah, makes me think Jay might know about an injury that Manalo has or something significant that the rest of us dont. Oh well, a few sweat bets never hurt anyone.

beetle
01-31-2008, 07:25 AM
I really don't like Manalo in this match, but since TannerPruess bet on Manalo I'm just all-in :D

I have 2 rules in betting:

1. Never bet against TannerPruess
2. Never bet against a Filipino

I can't lose this bet


The other rule is: "Never bet against Jay Helfert" But he just has to be wrong this time!

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 08:45 AM
Jay,
I'll take $50 on Manalo just to have a sweat bet with you since I already have a couple of other bets on him if you'd like.


Ok T-dog, you've got action.

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 08:46 AM
Hi Jay,

I'll take 100 on Manalo. Paypal is good.

Corvette Scott

Sorry Scott, but I have to ask you to post. Paypal is good.
PM me if you're still interested.

mindtriplx
01-31-2008, 07:37 PM
Sorry Scott, but I have to ask you to post. Paypal is good.
PM me if you're still interested.

hey jay ill take manalo for $50 through paypal if the window is still open.
pm me and let me know.

The Beginner
01-31-2008, 08:37 PM
Sorry Scott, but I have to ask you to post. Paypal is good.
PM me if you're still interested.


HI Jay i'll put $200 on Manalo :)

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 08:42 PM
HI Jay i'll put $200 on Manalo :)

You can bet a $100 with me.

The Beginner
01-31-2008, 08:48 PM
You can bet a $100 with me.

Ok Jay ...ill take $100 :) confirmed

jay helfert
01-31-2008, 09:23 PM
Ok Jay ...ill take $100 :) confirmed

You've got action. That's it, I'm done. I'm loaded up on Rodney. Someone else can take the next bet if they like. Thanks guys. We can all sweat it together, although I doubt seriously I'll be watching.

BlowFish
02-01-2008, 11:51 PM
Hey guys, if we have a bet please confirm on here. Blowfish, uwate. iba and Ktown are both good.

Sorry for the delay Jay, I was down with flu for the whole week. If it's still good, I'm in for $100.

jay helfert
02-02-2008, 10:00 PM
Sorry for the delay Jay, I was down with flu for the whole week. If it's still good, I'm in for $100.

You're in!