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bythecliff
03-16-2008, 08:46 PM
Would a top female or male player in the professional billiards association be able to consistently run out 15 balls in rotation, or this is too difficult for even the pros? I am currently using 15 balls to practice for 9 ball rotation, but find it extremely difficult to navigate through the balls (there are too many blockers!)

LILJOHN30
03-16-2008, 08:51 PM
Efern and Francisco find this easy,I have an accu-stats dvd and it's crazy.most pros should be proficient at this to a degree I can usually do it 1 out of ten tries.The other times I can get most of the rack but usually screw up and easy shot.I play the ghost though..

bythecliff
03-16-2008, 08:53 PM
liljohn30, Where did you get this DVD, or what is its name?

thedude
03-16-2008, 08:57 PM
liljohn30, Where did you get this DVD, or what is its name?

I think he referring to the Accu Stats DVD @ 2007 DCC, which can be located here. (http://www.accu-stats.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi?CMD=010&DEPT=1058978144&CAT=1173036499&SUBCAT=1173039782&BACK=A0008A1B01058978144B1C01173036499C1)

LILJOHN30
03-16-2008, 08:57 PM
accu-stats,from the derby city classic last year is and efern and francisco match/exhibition

LILJOHN30
03-16-2008, 08:58 PM
google accu-stats and look it up

longhair
03-16-2008, 09:00 PM
accu-stats,from the derby city classic last year is and efern and francisco match/exhibition
I haven't seen the video, but I was there and I didn't think they played that great. They missed kind of a lot (for them) and didn't seem very serious about it.

LILJOHN30
03-16-2008, 09:04 PM
well the first rack shouldve been run but like you said they were cruising..But the over all easy of them moving the rock is still amazing you have to agree.The way they move the ball in and out of traffic etc..I wish the game was a high stakes money game though..:D

TheBook
03-16-2008, 09:12 PM
I think a good way to judge this is the runs that made in 14.1 They can shoot in any ball but not too many get very high runs. The real great players can string a lot of racks together but I think a run of 100 is still a good milestone. The break is a little different but it seems as if it would be easier than 15 ball rotation.

8ballEinstein
03-16-2008, 09:35 PM
For many Filipinos, running 15 balls in rotation was part of a standard practice regimen. Efren did it regularly. He would put the 1 on the spot, the cueball behind the line and scatter the rest randomly. After a while, even this was becoming too easy. He later started clustering the balls to make it more difficult.

Stones
03-16-2008, 10:13 PM
If memory serves me correctly, Billiard Digest did their first interview with Efren (Thrilla from Manila) at the US 3 cushion championships. Efren was practicing full rack rotation while the interview was in progress and he broke and ran 3 consecutive racks according to the article.

Stones

Hail Mary Shot
03-16-2008, 11:54 PM
funny that you've mentioned this, I was able to BnO 2 consecutive racks in rotation and I'm not yet even close to being a B player. maybe I was just lucky or was having a really good day. what I'm saying is, "if an amateur player could do it, what more could a professional possibly do". the only difference that I see here is that amateur players only rely on their pocketing skills and table layout while professionals have the pool knowledge and skill to manipulate the rock around traffics and break up clusters with ease.

in rotation money matches, it is taboo not to spot the CB.

I'll give you an advice, the trick here is to learn how to carom.