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jason
04-26-2008, 09:59 AM
...and what kind of equiptment do they have?

ABall
04-26-2008, 10:10 AM
The largest pool hall that i've been to is probably Country Club in Chemsford Massachusetts with 2 levels and Gold Crown 4's(maybe 3's and some valley barboxes). In California the 2 biggest are California Billiard's in Mountain View and Hardtimes in Sacramento; both have Gold Crowns(4's and 3's).

Pushout
04-26-2008, 10:11 AM
Largest that I know of personally, having been there, is Q-Master Billiards, Barry Berhman's place, in Virginia Beach, Virginia. 55 tables, IIRC, including a Snooker table and a couple of billiard tables. Some are bar tables, I don't remember the break down. The nine foot tables are all Gold Crowns, I think.

frankncali
04-26-2008, 10:23 AM
The largest pool hall that i've been to is probably Country Club in Chemsford Massachusetts with 2 levels and Gold Crown 4's(maybe 3's and some valley barboxes). In California the 2 biggest are California Billiard's in Mountain View and Hardtimes in Sacramento; both have Gold Crowns(4's and 3's).
Is Hardtimes Sacramento bigger than HTs in Bellflower ??

The one in Bellflower if I am remembering correctly is bigger.

California Billiard Club was a great pool room when I was there. Very nice.


Las Vegas Cue Club is 15,000 sq ft and has 39 tables.


Largest that I have been to was Shooters in Burnsville MN.
It was huge. www.shootersbilliardclub.com

Fatboy
04-26-2008, 10:29 AM
lions den in vegas had about 110 9' tables in vegas about 10 years ago

shanesinnott
04-26-2008, 10:59 AM
Don't know if its the biggest in the USA but Shooters in Burnsville, MN has 22,000 SQ Ft and 64 tables: http://www.shootersbilliardclub.com/

corvette1340
04-26-2008, 11:01 AM
When Starzone was open in Atlanta a few years back it had around 50-60 brand new diamond tables. Some were 9 footers and some were 7 foot smart tables. They also had a ton of games, a restaruant, dance floor, etc..

Dagwoodz
04-26-2008, 11:13 AM
I've been to Country Club in Clemsford, had been to Starzone, California Billiard Club in Mountain View. The largest of those was by far Country Club USA in Chelmsford, Mass. At that time, they had at LEAST 75 tables on 2 different levels and 3 different rooms. Huge. Starzone was nice too, but a little too much of a dance club for me.

dags

gotgame
04-26-2008, 12:24 PM
Yeah i remember playing there as a kid it was if Maryland Parkway and Tropicana i believe it was unreal by far the biggest it was not open verry long i guess when you have 110 tables and only rent out about 40 percent your bound to loose.

ABall
04-26-2008, 05:20 PM
Is Hardtimes Sacramento bigger than HTs in Bellflower ??

The one in Bellflower if I am remembering correctly is bigger.

California Billiard Club was a great pool room when I was there. Very nice.


Las Vegas Cue Club is 15,000 sq ft and has 39 tables.


Largest that I have been to was Shooters in Burnsville MN.
It was huge. www.shootersbilliardclub.com

From what I remember, I think Hardtimes Sacramento is bigger, but I've only been to the Bellflower one once. By no means do I think that either of the rooms in California that I mentioned are the biggest in the country, but they may be the biggest in CA.

I had a chance to go to Shooters when I was in Mankato MN, but the drive was just to far. I wish I would have seen it now.:mad:

Scott Lee
04-26-2008, 10:34 PM
The biggest problem they had was NO parking...that killed them. You could maybe park 30 cars there at most.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Yeah i remember playing there as a kid it was if Maryland Parkway and Tropicana i believe it was unreal by far the biggest it was not open verry long i guess when you have 110 tables and only rent out about 40 percent your bound to loose.

cuejoey
04-26-2008, 10:45 PM
...and what kind of equiptment do they have?
Chris's on Milwaukee av in Chicago has three rooms of tables..I believe close to 50 tables...Maybe FLEX or another regular can post the right number...:)

hemicudas
04-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Fatboy, is right as far as I know. Lion's Den, was the largest room I remember being in.

pooltchr
04-27-2008, 04:49 AM
I don't remember exactly how many tables they have, but Mr Cues II in Atlanta must have 40 or 50 tables.
Steve

dardusm
04-27-2008, 05:11 AM
lions den in vegas had about 110 9' tables in vegas about 10 years ago


I remember that place. It was huge and they had an actual live lion in the place. The problem was that it smelled like they had a lion:)

JAM
04-27-2008, 05:19 AM
Deja Vu: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=48597&page=4

On the East Coast, Q-Masters maybe the largest pool room, with 58 tables.

JAM

Craig Fales
04-27-2008, 06:22 AM
Yeah i remember playing there as a kid it was if Maryland Parkway and Tropicana i believe it was unreal by far the biggest it was not open verry long i guess when you have 110 tables and only rent out about 40 percent your bound to loose.
That's sucks for me, I moved there in '98. The place must have just closed before I got there. I'd like to have seen that many tables under one roof.

spoons
04-27-2008, 07:56 AM
Chris's on Milwaukee av in Chicago has three rooms of tables..I believe close to 50 tables...Maybe FLEX or another regular can post the right number...:)


They've got 41 total. 4 billiard tables, 1 snooker table, and the rest are 9 foot gold crowns.


110 tables. Good lord! I'd love to live in a time and place where a place could regularly fill 110 tables. Maybe one day :)

JoeyA
04-27-2008, 10:12 AM
Largest that I have been to was Shooters in Burnsville MN.
It was huge. www.shootersbilliardclub.com

64 tables and 600 cues in stock. Bring your children. Sure, they even sell beer and food. I wonder if they have any beds. My God, that place must be huge.
JoeyA

Pushout
04-27-2008, 10:56 AM
Deja Vu: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=48597&page=4

On the East Coast, Q-Masters maybe the largest pool room, with 58 tables.

JAM

Yup, they must have put in three more since I was there last, which was a while ago.

NoBull9
04-27-2008, 11:27 AM
MrQ's in Atlanta is getting Gold Crown 4's and Gold Crown 5's installed now.Replacing the Kim Steels.

frankncali
04-27-2008, 11:32 AM
64 tables and 600 cues in stock. Bring your children. Sure, they even sell beer and food. I wonder if they have any beds. My God, that place must be huge.
JoeyA


The place was operated very well also. I would like to open a place one day and I took alot of notes while in Shooters.
They do many things well.

Its very big but has definite sections to it.

I also liked Table Steaks in Denver as well. Some good things there.

BTW_- what was the nice pool room in Nawlins'. Late 90s or mid 90s maybe. Nicer than the others.

dave sutton
04-27-2008, 01:13 PM
petey fuscos old room had atleast 60 tables

Also tacony billiards has around that. I was an old acme.

Both in pa

JoeyA
04-27-2008, 01:28 PM
The place was operated very well also. I would like to open a place one day and I took alot of notes while in Shooters.
They do many things well.

Its very big but has definite sections to it.

I also liked Table Steaks in Denver as well. Some good things there.

BTW_- what was the nice pool room in Nawlins'. Late 90s or mid 90s maybe. Nicer than the others.

Just outside of New Orleans in Slidell, LA, Frankie Haynes/Haines opened TWO SISTERS and he furnished it with a very nice bar, trim and Connely pool tables.

Pickles on Jefferson highway was kind of nice too when it first opened. Then you can't forget Gerald Huber's place, Rackateer's with its unbelievably high ceilings (virtually no ceiling and a roof about three stories high. Rackateer's had lots of tournaments in those days but the tables weren't new and the lights were the old style. Rackateer's was located in a building which was once used as a gambling casino.

JoeyA

DoubleA
04-27-2008, 06:11 PM
How big is the place that C.J. Wiley helped open in the Dallas area? I've never been there, but I've heard stories. BTW, this thread is about what is the biggest room now or the biggest room ever?

Hierovision
04-27-2008, 06:35 PM
Largest that I know of personally, having been there, is Q-Master Billiards, Barry Berhman's place, in Virginia Beach, Virginia. 55 tables, IIRC, including a Snooker table and a couple of billiard tables. Some are bar tables, I don't remember the break down. The nine foot tables are all Gold Crowns, I think.

Leading up to the 2007 US Open he added a few more as JAM said (to make 58 total). They also have had 4 diamond professionals in the main room bordering the tournament room partition for quite a while (at least a couple years). They also added 5 diamonds to the tournament room before the US Open. Q-Masters is definitely the biggest pool hall I've ever been to that is still around today.

JDB
04-27-2008, 06:46 PM
The place was operated very well also. I would like to open a place one day and I took alot of notes while in Shooters.
They do many things well.

Its very big but has definite sections to it.

I also liked Table Steaks in Denver as well. Some good things there.

BTW_- what was the nice pool room in Nawlins'. Late 90s or mid 90s maybe. Nicer than the others.
Shooters is very nice, but it is not even the nicest room in Minneapolis. I think Billiards Street Cafe (now Three Stooges, I think) was a little bit nicer. Tons of tables (maybe 60) and many of them were Gabriels.

I may be biased because I lived a little closer to Billiard Street Cafe; however, I spent a fair amount of time at Shooters, as well. Billiard Street Cafe was pretty awesome and would get my vote for Minneapolis.

Scott Lee
04-28-2008, 02:53 AM
Actually, a bunch of the tables in the large room, off to the side, are Gandy tables. It's easy to tell the difference between the Gold Crowns and the Gandys.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

They've got 41 total. 4 billiard tables, 1 snooker table, and the rest are 9 foot gold crowns.

softshot
04-28-2008, 02:58 AM
64 tables and 600 cues in stock. Bring your children. Sure, they even sell beer and food. I wonder if they have any beds. My God, that place must be huge.
JoeyA

next year I hear they are planning give you a GPS with the balls to help you find your table LOL

Flex
04-28-2008, 05:50 AM
Chris's on Milwaukee av in Chicago has three rooms of tables..I believe close to 50 tables...Maybe FLEX or another regular can post the right number...:)

Over 40 tables, lot of 9 footers, well over 30, I believe, although I haven't actually counted them, plus a 12 foot snooker table, and 4 Verhovens, if memory serves.

Definitely, NOT the largest pool room, but plenty large. Front room is the players room, and has probably 14 or so 9 footers, the snooker table and the Verhovens. The tournament room has something like 12 9 footers (and a juke box too) plus an 8 footer, while the back room is probably most accurately called a bangers' room with a bunch of tables, Mr. Leo's Cue Repair shop, and a very loud juke box.

No liquor, just hamburgers, hot dogs, pizzas, fast food and so on.

One of a kind place, to be sure, with some one pocket action, and the other usual stuff.

Flex

Flex
04-28-2008, 05:52 AM
I don't remember exactly how many tables they have, but Mr Cues II in Atlanta must have 40 or 50 tables.
Steve

Just played there a few nights ago; plenty big, as you say, it must have 40 or 50 tables.

Flex

SCCues
04-28-2008, 06:04 AM
Leading up to the 2007 US Open he added a few more as JAM said (to make 58 total). They also have had 4 diamond professionals in the main room bordering the tournament room partition for quite a while (at least a couple years). They also added 5 diamonds to the tournament room before the US Open. Q-Masters is definitely the biggest pool hall I've ever been to that is still around today.
When I go to the US Open getting to go to Q-Masters Billiards is one of the highlights of my trip. It's the nicest pool room i've been to and they run it well. Each table is cleaned and wiped down before it's rented to the next players. We don't have a descent room where I live and I envy the people who can go to a room like Q-Masters anytime they want to play some pool.

James

Hierovision
04-28-2008, 06:30 AM
When I go to the US Open getting to go to Q-Masters Billiards is one of the highlights of my trip. It's the nicest pool room i've been to and they run it well. Each table is cleaned and wiped down before it's rented to the next players. We don't have a descent room where I live and I envy the people who can go to a room like Q-Masters anytime they want to play some pool.

James

Whenever you're in town I'm usually good for at least a few friendly games. I played in my first open tournament there this past Saturday (placed 5th :) ) and it was run extremely well. The director (Richard) does an awesome job and keeps everything going smoothly. I didn't wait more than 5 minutes between matches. Here's some info on their tournaments: http://www.q-masters.com/tournaments.php

mikepage
04-28-2008, 06:42 AM
When I go to the US Open getting to go to Q-Masters Billiards is one of the highlights of my trip. It's the nicest pool room i've been to and they run it well. Each table is cleaned and wiped down before it's rented to the next players. We don't have a descent room where I live and I envy the people who can go to a room like Q-Masters anytime they want to play some pool.

James

Q Masters is a nice room.

I might take the prize (or I might have to share it with Scott Lee) for having been to the largest number of the rooms mentioned so far.

Of rooms already mentioned in this thread, I've been to...

Q Masters - Virginia Beach
Chris's - Chicago
Two Sisters - Slidell LA (New Orleans)
Shooters - Burnsville (Minneapolis)
Two Stooges - Fridley (Minneapolis)
Table Steaks - Denver
Cue Club - Las Vegas
Hard Times - Bellflower (Los Angeles)
CJ Wiley's place - Dallas (with the 10-foot pool table and where Earl ran 11 racks)
California Billiards - Mountain View (I think. Bob?)

Of these, Shooters in Burnsville is the largest with 64 tables.

So is Shooters the largest right now?

JAM
04-28-2008, 06:54 AM
According to this source of "Billiard's Unknown Facts":

The first public pool hall in history was built in England during the end of the 18th century. The pool hall featured one billiard table with one pocket. The biggest pool hall in history was built in Detroit in the 1920s; it featured more than 100 tables in addition to an exhibition room attached to a 250-seats theatre hall.

http://www.play89.com/Billiards-Facts.html

Here's a Detroit Nightmare Tale about a pool room: "The Fox and the Fly" may sound like one of Aesop's fables. But the actual story is true, and is probably one of billiards' most often-told tales. In 1865, Louis Fox and John Deery competed in a $1,000 match in Detroit. The 23-year-old Deery was handsome, athletic, and reputed to be totally fearless at the table. Fox, as him name implied, was a crafty veteran, known for driving his opponents crazy with his antics at the table. After a nail-biting struggle, Fox finally threatened to close out the match. In the midst of his surge, according to the legend, a fly took a liking to the cue ball, and continued to swarm around it, returning the moment the Fox took his stance. Efforts to shoo it away proved futile, and Fox, clearly rattled, missed his next shot. Deery proceeded to run the balls needed for victory, leaving the beaten Fox fuming in defeat. (Flies were actually a common problem in the mid 1800's. Most pool halls were lit with open flames from gas jets. This attracted the pests to the table, where they ultimately burned and fell onto the cloth.) So incensed was Fox over the constant interruptions, he literally blew after losing the match. He left the hall and plunged himself into the Detroit River. His body wasn't recovered for almost a year.

More about the Detroit pool room: The world's largest billiard hall was built during billiards' "Golden Age." "The Recreation," a mammoth seven-story health spa, was a bustling Detroit business in the 1920's. It featured 103 tables, 88 bowling lanes, 20 barber chairs, three manicuring stands, 14 cigar stands, a lunch counter on each floor, a restaurant that could seat 300, and an exhibition room with theater seating, that could accommodate 250 spectators.

Now, that's what I call a pool room! LOL!

JAM

watchez
04-28-2008, 07:26 AM
The largest pool room is in Louisville KY. Open 24 hours a day but for only 10 days a year.

PROG8R
04-28-2008, 07:45 AM
I have to vote for Romine's High Pockets in Milwaukee. They have like 70+ tables and a Mexican Resturant right in the center.

scottjen26
04-28-2008, 07:47 AM
Surprised Romine's High Pockets in Milwaukee hasn't made the list. They have around 50 tables. Of those, 3 or 4 are bar tables and the rest split about 50/50 between 8' and 9', all Brunswick Gold Crowns (III's I believe) covered with high quality cloth and changed regularly (think they use Granito?). Also have a tight-a$$ 6x12 snooker table and 2 heated 5x10 billiard tables. There was even a bumper pool table at one point in time...

Along with the tables, they have a full service Mexican restaurant, pizza/snack area, large bar, dance floor, arcade area, darts, and more TV's than you can count. Still one of the nicest places I've ever played in. And plenty of really good players as well.

Also like Chris's, used to make the trek to Chicago from Milwaukee several times a year for 9-ball tourneys but mostly for the 3-cushion action. 4 perfect heated Verhoeven tables, as well as some older non-heated Brunswick tables in the main room, and a lot of players who actually understand and can play the game.
Scott

[edit - funny, PROG8R posted the same time I was...]

JoeyA
04-28-2008, 07:49 AM
According to this source of "Billiard's Unknown Facts":

The first public pool hall in history was built in England during the end of the 18th century. The pool hall featured one billiard table with one pocket. The biggest pool hall in history was built in Detroit in the 1920s; it featured more than 100 tables in addition to an exhibition room attached to a 250-seats theatre hall.

http://www.play89.com/Billiards-Facts.html

Here's a Detroit Nightmare Tale about a pool room: "The Fox and the Fly" may sound like one of Aesop's fables. But the actual story is true, and is probably one of billiards' most often-told tales. In 1865, Louis Fox and John Deery competed in a $1,000 match in Detroit. The 23-year-old Deery was handsome, athletic, and reputed to be totally fearless at the table. Fox, as him name implied, was a crafty veteran, known for driving his opponents crazy with his antics at the table. After a nail-biting struggle, Fox finally threatened to close out the match. In the midst of his surge, according to the legend, a fly took a liking to the cue ball, and continued to swarm around it, returning the moment the Fox took his stance. Efforts to shoo it away proved futile, and Fox, clearly rattled, missed his next shot. Deery proceeded to run the balls needed for victory, leaving the beaten Fox fuming in defeat. (Flies were actually a common problem in the mid 1800's. Most pool halls were lit with open flames from gas jets. This attracted the pests to the table, where they ultimately burned and fell onto the cloth.) So incensed was Fox over the constant interruptions, he literally blew after losing the match. He left the hall and plunged himself into the Detroit River. His body wasn't recovered for almost a year.

More about the Detroit pool room: The world's largest billiard hall was built during billiards' "Golden Age." "The Recreation," a mammoth seven-story health spa, was a bustling Detroit business in the 1920's. It featured 103 tables, 88 bowling lanes, 20 barber chairs, three manicuring stands, 14 cigar stands, a lunch counter on each floor, a restaurant that could seat 300, and an exhibition room with theater seating, that could accommodate 250 spectators.

Now, that's what I call a pool room! LOL!

JAM

I loved the Fox and the Fly story. Sending REP to you whether you want it or not. :)

JoeyA

gregoryg
04-28-2008, 09:29 PM
Romines on south 27th street in Milwaukee, WI is located in a former roller rink. Last time I was there they had upwards of 75 tables. When I talked with Terry Romine, sr, before they built it, they were going to put in at least 100 tables. They decided to put in the full serve Mexican restaurant and fewer tables. Great room, full service bar and very tasty food. Well worth stopping in for food, pool or both.

TorranceChris
04-28-2008, 10:11 PM
One night in a drunken stupor, I stumbled into a large building and counted over 210 tables and wondered how they were able to keep them all busy. After trying to put my quarters on the tables and teeing off some people, I then walked back out into the night :D

hang-the-9
04-29-2008, 10:10 AM
I remember that place. It was huge and they had an actual live lion in the place. The problem was that it smelled like they had a lion:)

And with all the pool players in there you would notice the lion smell how?

I can see the Lion posting on LionsChat.com..
"well, it's a good gig, get nice food, but for Gazzells sake! Can't those pool players shower once in a while? I smelled week-old carcasses that were fresher."

fanthom
04-29-2008, 11:37 AM
...and what kind of equiptment do they have?

Back in the 90's, I used to go to Vegas almost every year. There's a place called THE LIONS DEN that had close to or a little over 100 tables along with a bunch of other arcade games. I remember they had a showcase 6-legged 5' x 10' by the main reception area. It's the largest room I've seen. I think they have since gone out of business.