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JB Cases
04-29-2008, 07:35 PM
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Austin Murphy is sponsored by Fury Cues. He is playing with a Fury RP and using the Fury Jump Break.

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rogerb
04-29-2008, 07:38 PM
scratch on 8 is not loss of game in IPT ... doh !!!

3andstop
04-29-2008, 07:43 PM
I was looking forward to this, but I have stopped watching. I'm going to bed before Mike Sigel makes me throw up.

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 07:52 PM
yeah it might be better with the sound off :-)

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 07:53 PM
I think Trudeau mocks Sigel though when he asks Sigel if he could be competitve. I think KT knows that Sigel will take the bait and proclaim himself the greatest ever------again.

Charlie Hustle
04-29-2008, 07:56 PM
Any updates?

hilla_hilla
04-29-2008, 07:59 PM
Updates, PLEASE! az is the only thing I have access to right now:o (working my 2nd job, blocked from everything, and NO verizon:(). Updates would be awesome:) .

cubc
04-29-2008, 08:03 PM
that was one hell of a cut / safe / breakout / shot by efren

SoundWaves
04-29-2008, 08:05 PM
4 to 1 Efren in control

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:07 PM
4:1 Efren - Austin looks lost. He is clearly nervous. Efren started shakily and has given up opportunities but has also pulled off some Efren Magic shots in his runouts.

Efren is so good he makes you afraid to approach the table. John Schmidt said playing straight pool in front of Sigel is like having sex in front of a porn star. How do you think it feels to be PLAYING Efren in Austin's position.

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:08 PM
Ok, this kid is helpless. He must go practice cut shots near the rail :).

cubc
04-29-2008, 08:08 PM
This kid cant shoot though. It was obvious from his stats before the match. He doesnt belong here at all :/ but that was all stated beforehand so w/e.

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:11 PM
I guess he has a lot of friends that know how to use the internets :).

Oh ...and the IPT crap.... "because of the IPT tour pool is now a Sport" ....i mean what the hell.

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:12 PM
4:2 Efren - My feed is choppy so it's hard to make play by play comments.

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:13 PM
Austin broke, made one of each.

(Windows 98 was resorted to, to watch this GREAT event)

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:14 PM
He can't shoot? How is it possible that he has beaten top players in tournaments and finishes in the money a lot on the tough West Coast events?

How do you think any of us would do right now if we were playing Efren?

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:17 PM
5-2 Efren...

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:18 PM
I NEVER seen this kid play, i'm just stating what i just see.

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:18 PM
Austin has ball in hand :)

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:18 PM
5-2 for Reyes

cubc
04-29-2008, 08:19 PM
He can't shoot? How is it possible that he has beaten top players in tournaments and finishes in the money a lot on the tough West Coast events?

How do you think any of us would do right now if we were playing Efren?

Did you even look at his ipt profile compared to others? My point is everyone else on that list would've been playing better than he is right now.

He needs a lot of work IMO in terms of shot selection and just shot making altogether.

Karate
04-29-2008, 08:20 PM
Can you make the screen bigger on the IPT viewer????
It looks ok centered...but, bigger would be better...thx

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:21 PM
Austin blew runout, Efren back on table...

Man this is so cool... I have not watched live pool in years!

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:22 PM
I NEVER seen this kid play, i'm just stating what i just see.

I have and Austin can play. However in this situation I can understand it if he doesn't play his best. If I were playing Efren in a live match situation then I would be lucky if I could make it to the table much less hit a cue ball.

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:22 PM
Efren missed, Austin back on table.

Mike is attesting this to tight pockets...

cubc
04-29-2008, 08:22 PM
whoa efren just missed an easy shot too :D

efren wins again 6-2

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:25 PM
6-2 Efren... Commercial...

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:26 PM
What's up with the "Poison" name for merchandise? I mean anthrax, vx, etc., what are they thinking?

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:26 PM
If Efren gets to 10 and the kid can't get past 2 i'm going to sleep. Can't believe i stayed untill 6 in the morning for this. I tought the kid would be the next Archer or smth.:(

SoundWaves
04-29-2008, 08:27 PM
Keep up the updates guys, I'll need an update tomaro. This is going to take forever, it's time for bed... Thanks in advance!

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:29 PM
Efren scratched on break, Austin at table, but lots of problems on table...

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:29 PM
I have and Austin can play. However in this situation I can understand it if he doesn't play his best. If I were playing Efren in a live match situation then I would be lucky if I could make it to the table much less hit a cue ball.

What are you saying is that the kid is scared or nervous . That shows that he isn't a killer. When Efren was his age he was killing everybody. I tought i would see a player who isn't afraid of anyone. I just see an average player.

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:30 PM
my internet feed dropped out so maybe no more updates from me. I hope Autin finds his groove and shows some speed.

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:31 PM
Austin still at table, shooting very well...

Is that Rodney Morris in the crowd?

hilla_hilla
04-29-2008, 08:33 PM
Most people I know would be afraid to play Efren or at least a little nervous:D .

Give the kid a break. He's a KID and this is his dream! Kudos to him for getting up and trying:) .

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:34 PM
Efren back at table.

Supposedly they are going to show some "early days of Efren" shortly...

cubc
04-29-2008, 08:35 PM
7-2 efren.

Bluesteel
04-29-2008, 08:38 PM
Well....I guess they chose that video to show ????????????????? Oh, another plug to help sigel with his self esteem.

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:41 PM
Austin missed 8 ball...

And will certainly have to change his stance when he get's older/taller like I did...

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:43 PM
Efren wins, now 8-2...

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:43 PM
Did you even look at his ipt profile compared to others? My point is everyone else on that list would've been playing better than he is right now.

He needs a lot of work IMO in terms of shot selection and just shot making altogether.

He is only 14. How much do you think he should have accumulated by now?

I am sure that a more experienced player would be playing better. However Austin won the viewer's choice - and kudos to the IPT for doing what the viewers wanted to see.

I guess the only thing I can say is that a solution is for players to get out there and market pool so that more people outside of the hard core fans will participate in events like this. They say a rising tide lifts all boats.

So here is a chance for players to aggressively market pool in a grassroots fashion and try to get interest started virally.

jeffwinters
04-29-2008, 08:46 PM
4:1 Efren - Austin looks lost. He is clearly nervous. Efren started shakily and has given up opportunities but has also pulled off some Efren Magic shots in his runouts.

Efren is so good he makes you afraid to approach the table. John Schmidt said playing straight pool in front of Sigel is like having sex in front of a porn star. How do you think it feels to be PLAYING Efren in Austin's position.

ah? having sex with the king of porn?:D

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:46 PM
That's got to be the hot babe you were speaking of. She is interviewing both players.

Her "suit" reminds me of an episode of Star Trek... HOT

Derek
04-29-2008, 08:46 PM
Check out those boobs, Austin! Rebecca!!

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:46 PM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

Fast Lenny
04-29-2008, 08:47 PM
Just got in from the airport after my trip to NY,is the Ortmann and Schmidt match next? :confused:

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:48 PM
That's got to be the hot babe you were speaking of. She is interviewing both players.

Her "suit" reminds me of an episode of Star Trek... HOT

Well, for THAT suit i'm glad i'd stayed up so late.

MJ_Ro
04-29-2008, 08:49 PM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

Wish i was living in the USA right now!.

weeseng
04-29-2008, 08:50 PM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

We want to watch a good game and he is just not playing well. Relax. :)

Ballistic Billiards
04-29-2008, 08:51 PM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

That table is tough!

inside_english
04-29-2008, 08:51 PM
I was looking forward to this, but I have stopped watching. I'm going to bed before Mike Sigel makes me throw up.
I would prefer if Trudeau shut up for 5 seconds.

ShootingArts
04-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Check out those boobs, Austin! Rebecca!!



He is! The match is a great experience for Austin in more ways than one. :D :D :D

Hu

inside_english
04-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Now he's promoting a weight-loss cure??!?!

Unbelievable.

jay helfert
04-29-2008, 08:53 PM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

Am I too late? :D

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:54 PM
Jay, you could always back ME! I posted (in the forum). :)

inside_english
04-29-2008, 08:55 PM
Score 8-2 Efren and Efren STILL has not made a ball on the break without scratching!

whitey2
04-29-2008, 08:56 PM
I predict Austin will run this rack out, and start getting hot...

inside_english
04-29-2008, 08:57 PM
I wish Sigel would stop saying "Efrum".

Austin made two and missed, Efren is shooting.

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 08:59 PM
I want to see a good match too :-) I knew the odds were stacked against Austin and it's tough to watch. But this is a truly GOOD person and someone with a bright future. He will have many more great matches and tournaments in front of him.

:-( Bummed - Wish Austin would/could show more of his real speed.

inside_english
04-29-2008, 08:59 PM
Efren wins 9-2.

inside_english
04-29-2008, 09:00 PM
Mike Sigel claims Austin is having a more difficult time than expected because the pockets are tighter and he does not know English very well.

inside_english
04-29-2008, 09:01 PM
Efren has broken and AGAIN has made NOTHING on the break!

whitey2
04-29-2008, 09:03 PM
Yeh, I wish the match was closer also...

I really should take a break, and try to take/post some better pics of the cue I'm selling.

No more updates from me, but this is/was cool, to watch!

worriedbeef
04-29-2008, 09:04 PM
Efren has broken and AGAIN has made NOTHING on the break!

like i said, it's got to be on purpose!

inside_english
04-29-2008, 09:05 PM
Efren wins 10-2.

inside_english
04-29-2008, 09:07 PM
Kinda funny watching the kid's Dad trying not to stare at Rebecca's tits during the "interview"...LOL

JB Cases
04-29-2008, 09:07 PM
Mike Sigel claims Austin is having a more difficult time than expected because the pockets are tighter and he does not know English very well.

Well :-) The pockets are tight for Efren too and he also doesn't know english very well....................bada boom.

inside_english
04-29-2008, 09:08 PM
And as you would imagine, Efren has not made a ball on the break again. He is 0-11 on the breaks...unbelievable.

accustatsfan
04-29-2008, 09:09 PM
Great opportunity for a 14 yr old hopefully he doen't turn into the Michelle wie of pool.

f210
04-29-2008, 09:10 PM
And as you would imagine, Efren has not made a ball on the break again. He is 0-11 on the breaks...unbelievable.

I am starting to think it is deliberate. Did you see that mischievous grin on his face after his last dry break?

DoomCue
04-29-2008, 09:12 PM
I see Joe Rogan in the crowd - I wonder if the IPT is the reason he missed the last UFC....

Austin is clearly nervous, but that's no surprise; he's playing arguably the greatest player ever to hold a cue. While it's obvious Austin is overmatched in this one, this is probably one of the best learning experiences he could possibly get. One thing I've found to help deal with nerves is just to get nervous. The more you experience nervousness, the better you deal with it. After a while, not only do nerves stop affecting you negatively, you start to look forward to the feeling, mental concentration becomes easier to slip into, and nervousness becomes a positive emotion. This is probably as nervous as Austin can be, so it only gets better from here.

Sigel is right, though, Austin's 8-ball pattern play is kinda bad, but that'll come with experience. More important than pool is the fact that Austin has a great support structure and he's a smart kid.

-djb

inside_english
04-29-2008, 09:12 PM
Well I can't see the kid coming back after this. It's 11:53pm EST, time for me to get my beauty sleep (and I need lots of it). I think I'll wait to hear Sigel say at least 15 more times how "Efrum" is struggling then I'll go to bed.

BTW it is now 11-2, you-know-who. Good night all.

sixpack
04-29-2008, 09:13 PM
I am starting to think it is deliberate. Did you see that mischievous grin on his face after his last dry break?

Yes, I think until Austin shows he can run out, Efren will keep playing the percentages.

~rc

Karate
04-29-2008, 09:14 PM
Ok....Why would Efren say he likes used chalk?.....anyone...

penoy78
04-29-2008, 09:14 PM
I can see it now....Elkmaster sold out everywhere. Efren just said that's what he uses..lol

f210
04-29-2008, 09:16 PM
Yes, I think until Austin shows he can run out, Efren will keep playing the percentages.

~rc

Efren is trying to give the kid some more opportunities to shoot. He is not even trying to break harder. Pretty obvious that he is not trying his best to make balls on his break.

mac1972
04-29-2008, 09:16 PM
sigels mic is down may watch a bit longer

rackmsuckr
04-29-2008, 09:18 PM
Efren isn't playing his best, but certainly good enough. Austin is way off his game. I have seen him play killer in tight situations. Since he has grown a foot though, it has made him change his grip and stance a little.

I think he is on tilt. He looks like he wanted to cry during the interview. I am sure it is overwhelming. He is not playing good patterns, not looking 3 balls ahead, and not taking care of his breakouts, like the one where he just needed to follow on the 11 in the side which he did, but then he took his other ball up table when he could have shot the 10 down table and broken out his 3 trouble balls. He needs to take care of those early if he wants to run out.

I also think he is trying too hard on his breaks to get more power than Efren, but he is losing control of whitey, always drawing up table with no shot. A big turning point was when he needed the bridge and accidentally touched a ball, probably with his shirt and gave up ball in hand.

Reminds me of when Sigel fouled on me (rolling a ball with his sleeve) and never got caught!!! :D

Anyway, I give credit to Austin to be where he is and it's a great experience for him. He has a fantastic future ahead of him.

rackmsuckr
04-29-2008, 09:20 PM
Ok....Why would Efren say he likes used chalk?.....anyone...

I don't like new chalk either....too hard and restrictive. When it has a gentle dip in it, it seems to coat the best.

Klopek
04-29-2008, 09:20 PM
0000000000

Johnnyt
04-29-2008, 09:24 PM
I've seen it 100's of times. Put an up and coming kid in with a champ that knows all the ropes and the kid is NEVER the same after hit gets beat bad. And he was holding back tears during the interview. Johnnyt

Johnnyt
04-29-2008, 09:30 PM
I have to admit the video has been great here. I have to thank the IPT for that. But I think they need to do away with the fan voting for who plays. You get people voting for someone 100 times. Then you get what you have tonight...a mismatch. Johnnyt

DoomCue
04-29-2008, 09:31 PM
Hey John, Austin's giving you guys a good plug....

-djb

rackmsuckr
04-29-2008, 09:40 PM
Austin is playing with more authority now! Wish he had started sooner.

instroke75
04-29-2008, 09:44 PM
all i see is an average player! JMHO
Jeremy

Fast Lenny
04-29-2008, 09:48 PM
Is the Schmidt and Ortmann match next????? :confused:

worriedbeef
04-29-2008, 10:00 PM
Is the Schmidt and Ortmann match next????? :confused:

it was first you've missed it.

it will be available afterwards to watch so you can see it.

whitey2
04-29-2008, 10:02 PM
Score update anyone?

jeffwinters
04-29-2008, 10:04 PM
15-6, Efren won, no surprise.

instroke75
04-29-2008, 10:04 PM
it's over 15-6 Efren

penoy78
04-29-2008, 10:06 PM
15-6 Efren won.

3andstop
04-29-2008, 10:07 PM
Kinda funny watching the kid's Dad trying not to stare at Rebecca's tits during the "interview"...LOL


Those aren't Rebecca's tits. They belong to the Goodyear Rubber Co. If they do anything for ya, I believe there is a website where you can buy the whole inflatable doll. :)

whitey2
04-29-2008, 10:08 PM
Thanks...

Although I hoped to have heard 10-10...

whitey2
04-29-2008, 10:09 PM
Those aren't Rebecca's tits. They belong to the Goodyear Rubber Co. If they do anything for ya, I believe there is a website where you can buy the whole inflatable doll. :)

I was wondering why she looked so familiar... :)

ShootingArts
04-29-2008, 10:39 PM
Austin actually showed a lot of heart and maturity. When he accepted that he was almost certain to lose he relaxed and put together three good outs in a row including the only break and run of the night I believe, for sure until that point.

Having seen it happen in other IPT extravaganzas I wasn't surprised to see Efren back off quite a bit once he built a big lead but when Austin ran the second out to win two games in a row you could see Efren putting on his battle face on the sidelines. The break and run came after that and the most serious Efren of the night came to the table when he got his chance. He had absolutely no intention of having the story spread worldwide overnight of a fourteen year old coming back from a huge deficit and beating him. Although Austin had played some outstanding shots and position in his brief flurry it was all over but the crying then.

Austin did play some canny safes on Efren, more of them and he might have slowed him down a bit. Austin is definitely a shot maker now. When he has more experience knowing when to shoot and when to duck his game will be even stronger. Unfortunately for Austin, Efren seemed to always have another gear anytime he needed it.

Final note on this match, at least at first Sigel made a real effort to say "Efren", apparently all of the razzing on this forum and others didn't go unnoticed.

As for the undercard, strapping an 84 ball inning on Oliver was all John needed to own him on this table. John fumbled a bit when he didn't close things out with three balls left to run but the writing was on the wall after his one huge run. Eighty-four balls are a long ways from 400 but on that table with those pockets and cloth a sixty-odd ball lead was a bunch.

Not a bad night of pool after some initial trouble getting into the broadcast. Worth every penny I paid for it!

Hu

Josh Palmer
04-29-2008, 10:53 PM
He is only 14. How much do you think he should have accumulated by now?

I am sure that a more experienced player would be playing better. However Austin won the viewer's choice - and kudos to the IPT for doing what the viewers wanted to see.

I guess the only thing I can say is that a solution is for players to get out there and market pool so that more people outside of the hard core fans will participate in events like this. They say a rising tide lifts all boats.

So here is a chance for players to aggressively market pool in a grassroots fashion and try to get interest started virally.

I agree.. He's only 14/15, but he has also played in probably 3000 tournaments at minimum... I have probably played in 5-600?:confused:

av84fun
04-29-2008, 10:55 PM
I've seen it 100's of times. Put an up and coming kid in with a champ that knows all the ropes and the kid is NEVER the same after hit gets beat bad. And he was holding back tears during the interview. Johnnyt

I have to agree. NO disrespect to the kid but absent Efren having a heart attack he had no chance to even stay in the match let alone win.

He got creamed against Efren's B- game...a fact about which there could have been no doubt.

I thought it was kind of sad on several levels. One, for Austin who obviously took the whole thing much more seriously than he should have.

And the whole thing struck me as sort of a circus side show.

And yes, the fan voting thing is silly.

Regards,
Jim

Renegade
04-29-2008, 11:00 PM
15-6 Efren won.

nice avatar, penoy. is that from the ipt website?

who's the guy behind marlon manalo? is that parica?

Luxury
04-29-2008, 11:08 PM
Well I predicted the kid would get 8 and I was wrong. Someone posted an offer to bet that the kid would get 6. Bet he's happy.

smokeandapancak
04-30-2008, 12:31 AM
I have to agree. NO disrespect to the kid but absent Efren having a heart attack he had no chance to even stay in the match let alone win.

He got creamed against Efren's B- game...a fact about which there could have been no doubt.

I thought it was kind of sad on several levels. One, for Austin who obviously took the whole thing much more seriously than he should have.

And the whole thing struck me as sort of a circus side show.

And yes, the fan voting thing is silly.

Regards,
Jim


What is wrong with fan voting?

This wasnt a tourney ...
This wasnt a gambling match...
This want a grudge match....
It was just an exhibition... nothing more nothing less...

The kid came here are campaigned a little bit and won a seat at the table with ER.. good job to him.

I actually dont think anybody would have really gave it a second look if twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber didnt start running their mouths the way that they did...

Fast Lenny
04-30-2008, 12:35 AM
it was first you've missed it.

it will be available afterwards to watch so you can see it.
Thanks for the 411. :)

av84fun
04-30-2008, 12:53 AM
What is wrong with fan voting?

This wasnt a tourney ...
This wasnt a gambling match...
This want a grudge match....
It was just an exhibition... nothing more nothing less...

The kid came here are campaigned a little bit and won a seat at the table with ER.. good job to him.

I actually dont think anybody would have really gave it a second look if twiddle dumb and twiddle dumber didnt start running their mouths the way that they did...

Nothing wrong with fan voting in and of itself but rather the way it was done.

Jim

gopi-1
04-30-2008, 12:57 AM
Okay guys, I just got back! The only AZ member I met was FrankInCali. Traffic was so bad from San Diego to LA, and it took me more than 3 hours instead of the usual 2 to get there. I thought I was late and started to run when I accidentally dropped my camera! :eek: I had a back-up though, a DVDcamcorder, but learning to upload what I've shot is a whole different matter. Rodney Morris, Corey Deuel, John Schmidt and Austin Murphy greeted all of you guys here on AZ!

I was right behind the bevy of beauties who were all requesting for a back massage! Talk about pool in heaven! :D I guess I was just in the right place at the right time! :p

Sitting on my on my left is Tang Hoa, while on my immediate right was Mr. 400 himself, John Schmidt who was giving Joe Rogan a free lesson on pool 101.

Austin Murphy is now a young man, a shade below 6 feet, and a little awkward on his stance. He was jittery and probably awed by Efren's presence and was never in the game. He was so frustrated with his play and I swear I saw a tear dropped when he missed the 8. He relaxed a bit when Efren but all locked up the match at 11 games to 2. He showed glimpse of his shooting prowess when he racked 2 or 3(?) games in a row but it was too little too late.

Efren played with a borrowed cue from Alex and only had 1 B@R, and it came on the 21st and final game! He pocketed a ball once earlier but scratched, and this is what I think efren was trying to do, he was breaking at half speed and there's usually a cluster or 2 that Austin couldn't solved.

to be continued...

cueandcushion
04-30-2008, 01:21 AM
Now he's promoting a weight-loss cure??!?!

Unbelievable.

Let me guess. Austin is the one that needs to lose a few pounds?

:rolleyes:

JAM
04-30-2008, 02:58 AM
I missed the big show. I fell asleep after American Idol! :(

However, reading this thread, I got the whole rundown. So Kevin Trudeau was commentating with Mike Sigel? And they also brought in Rebecca?

Rebecca was at all of the IPT tournaments I went to. She used to be a commentator on "The Best Damn Sports Show," I think. I got several pictures of her, and below is one of them.

I can remember one night, she and I were having a brief chat, and she told me her feet were killing her because of her 5-inch heels. Oh, the sacrifices women make to be beautiful! I'll stick with my Birkenstocks.

All in all, she was very nice to all in attendance, and of course, the men enjoyed the scenery when Rebecca was in the house! :D

JAM

Johnnyt
04-30-2008, 03:05 AM
The IPT doesn't care who gets picked to play. The whole idea of voting as many times as you want is to boost the traffic count on the IPT site to get more ads/charge more for ads. I can't say that KT is the only one that does it though. Johnnyt

PS. I have to thank the IPT for the free streaming...it was great. Next time let them vote just once and hide Mike.

ironman
04-30-2008, 04:05 AM
I missed the big show. I fell asleep after American Idol! :(

However, reading this thread, I got the whole rundown. So Kevin Trudeau was commentating with Mike Sigel? And they also brought in Rebecca?

Rebecca was at all of the IPT tournaments I went to. She used to be a commentator on "The Best Damn Sports Show," I think. I got several pictures of her, and below is one of them.

I can remember one night, she and I were having a brief chat, and she told me her feet were killing her because of her 5-inch heels. Oh, the sacrifices women make to be beautiful! I'll stick with my Birkenstocks.

All in all, she was very nice to all in attendance, and of course, the men enjoyed the scenery when Rebecca was in the house! :D

JAM

Kieth looks miserable in that picture. It's written all over him, "where's Jen, let me outta here".

You women unerestimate all of us.

ironman
04-30-2008, 04:11 AM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

Where would we have to play.

JAM
04-30-2008, 04:23 AM
Kieth looks miserable in that picture. It's written all over him, "where's Jen, let me outta here".

You women unerestimate all of us.

Look how miserable Keith looks getting his picture taken with Mrs. Laurence. They look a little cozy, don't they?! :eek:

Actually, the two of them are very good friends. Each time we run into her, she and Keith enjoy chatting it up! :D

Keith must like Pisces women because she and I both share the same birthday! :p

JAM

ShootingArts
04-30-2008, 05:09 AM
I think that Keith is just standing there wishing Ewa was a little taller or he was a little shorter. Then that wouldn't be her shoulder he was laying his head on! :D :D :D

Hu


Look how miserable Keith looks getting his picture taken with Mrs. Laurence. They look a little cozy, don't they?! :eek:

Actually, the two of them are very good friends. Each time we run into her, she and Keith enjoy chatting it up! :D

Keith must like Pisces women because she and I both share the same birthday! :p

JAM

hang-the-9
04-30-2008, 07:09 AM
15-6 Efren won.

I was thinking it would be 15-5. The biggest issue was the tight pockets, the kid was just not used to them, and played a bit too much to the outside edges. The run he had to get to 6 was pretty good, and he was sinking balls on the break with some open tables. If the pockets were a bit bigger he would have gotten to 10, if not won the whole thing.

Efren won through sheer experience and knowledge of finesse play. By the time he can drive, Austin should be a top 30 finisher in a major tournament.

Was interesting to watch aside from having to listen to the announcers.

senor
04-30-2008, 07:14 AM
By the time he can drive, Austin should be a top 30 finisher in a major tournament.

Ouch! I think I get your drift, but a top thirty finish in a major pro pool tournament might not get him a handshake.

jrhendy
04-30-2008, 07:30 AM
I will be more than happy to sponsor Austin in an winner take all two man tournament against anyone who has posted in this thread to this point. I will put up $1000 for Austin's entry fee to this event. It shall be played exactly tot he same rules he is playing in now. Would anyone who has posted previously like to accept this challenge?

If they play at Austin's home court at Hard Times in Sacramento, there are some of us locals who would help jack up the entry fee for those interested.

People got to see a living legend play a future champion, and as far Austin's game goes, if you are not a pro or high level road player, you might not like it. All he was doing was playing the best player in the world for the past twenty years. Let him play anybody near his speed and you will see a much improved game. John Henderson

uwate
04-30-2008, 07:44 AM
I agree with this completely JRHendy. People who have been around pool enough know that great players can make solid players look very weak. To the folks who think Austin can't make a ball, you are not viewing this objectively. Austin plays extremely well and while he didnt do well last night, remember that there are so many accustats of great players just dogging their brains out, shooting .600 type matches out there.

For example, from the 2001 US Open: Cory Deuel (.921) def. Mika Immonen (.571) 11-0 (F). Everyone knows Mika is solid pro player and yet here is shooting even below shortstop speed. What you saw last night was no indication of Austin's true speed. This isn't speculation, its a fact.

philw
04-30-2008, 07:49 AM
I want to see a good match too :-) I knew the odds were stacked against Austin and it's tough to watch. But this is a truly GOOD person and someone with a bright future. He will have many more great matches and tournaments in front of him.

:-( Bummed - Wish Austin would/could show more of his real speed.
It should be clear to most that Austin isn't showing his true speed here. I've never seen Austin play but I know the score doesn't reflect his ability. I give the kid credit for promoting himself (asking for people to vote for him) I did. I think this is a good learning experience for him. Everyone give the kid a break he's friggin 14. Good luck Austin I know we'll be hearing a lot more about you in the future and MJro hurry back to the states so you could play this kid and give us a chance to critique you. Philw

poolhustler
04-30-2008, 08:16 AM
I was there and here are a couple of observations:

Austin was so nervous he couldn't see straight. The kid can play decent and will be a force to be reckoned with very soon. My prediction of the day.

The gal who does the interviews is SOOOOOOOOOO fake it isn't even funny.

It was a fun match to watch with alot of good pool fans.

The guy wearing the number 28 jersey, who's phone went off during the Schmidt/Ortman match needs to get a life. He sat and and stared at the girls almost all night. And I don't mean, glance and look away. He stared for minutes at a time, all the time. VERY CREEPY DUDE.

Over all, a little different, but fun night!!

Russ.....

watchez
04-30-2008, 08:38 AM
I have stated before, I have seen Austin many times & is he always a respectful, polite young man. His father stands off to the side, observing but you can see that he has done well in raising his son.

I haven't seen Austin play in a year but would put his speed below the level of some of the other top young guns (21 yr olds and below).

av84fun
04-30-2008, 09:22 AM
I think that Keith is just standing there wishing Ewa was a little taller or he was a little shorter. Then that wouldn't be her shoulder he was laying his head on! :D :D :D

Hu

Would that be what they mean by "facing the issues head on?"

(-:

Jim

av84fun
04-30-2008, 09:26 AM
The IPT doesn't care who gets picked to play. The whole idea of voting as many times as you want is to boost the traffic count on the IPT site to get more ads/charge more for ads. I can't say that KT is the only one that does it though. Johnnyt

PS. I have to thank the IPT for the free streaming...it was great. Next time let them vote just once and hide Mike.

Exactly Johnny. That's what I don't like about the voting scheme. Its PURPOSE is to create clicks on the site not to choose the players by "popular vote."


Regards,
Jim

Jaden
04-30-2008, 09:32 AM
scratch on 8 is not loss of game in IPT ... doh !!!


In BCA you have to scratch AND make the eight for it to be a loss of game.

Jaden
04-30-2008, 09:46 AM
There were a lot of us who called this exactly how it went down. I wasn't able to see it because I had to pull a double shift yesterday I worked from 8 in the morning until 1145 last night.

All of these people saying that oh you didn't see his real game etc..etc... I'm not dogging Austin's game, but come on... what does it take for people to admit that this kid was just outclassed and had no business this early in his career playing someone like Efren. Those threads on the voting for Austin, don't vote for Austin etc... were reminiscent of the threads talking about the female pros versus the male top pros. There's the way it is and then there's the way that certain people want it to be.

"Oh it's tight pockets, if the pockets were looser, if the cameras weren't there, etc.etc." Sure if you have seven inch pockets, even your average banger has a chance against Efren. The kid is a kid and even if his game CAN be at times at the level necessary to compete with the likes of Efren, Johnny, Alex, Santos, etc... he's not going to be emotionally prepared for the lights cameras spotlight, etc. I'm sure that Austin is capable of playing at that level, but he needs to understand that he needs to grow and develop emotionally or he's going to risk hitting a mental slump before he's even really started.

Ninety five percent of this game is mental state and if you keep throwing him in with the Lions and he keeps getting eaten up, it's going to kill his mental game and he's going to end up where I am, his mid thrities and times off from the game he loves and nothing really to show for it. Maybe that's why I get soo upset hen I see kids being lauded up the way Austin, Chuckie and all of these other kids are ,because I know that the emotional stability and readiness is frgaile at that age and it can be an extreme detriment to their game. I know this from experience.

Oh well, I'm probably talking to deaf ears.


Jaden.

cubc
04-30-2008, 09:52 AM
There were a lot of us who called this exactly how it went down. I wasn't able to see it because I had to pull a double shift yesterday I worked from 8 in the morning until 1145 last night.

All of these people saying that oh you didn't see his real game etc..etc... I'm not dogging Austin's game, but come on... what does it take for people to admit that this kid was just outclassed and had no business this early in his career playing someone like Efren. Those threads on the voting for Austin, don't vote for Austin etc... were reminiscent of the threads talking about the female pros versus the male top pros. There's the way it is and then there's the way that certain people want it to be.

"Oh it's tight pockets, if the pockets were looser, if the cameras weren't there, etc.etc." Sure if you have seven inch pockets, even your average banger has a chance against Efren. The kid is a kid and even if his game CAN be at times at the level necessary to compete with the likes of Efren, Johnny, Alex, Santos, etc... he's not going to be emotionally prepared for the lights cameras spotlight, etc. I'm sure that Austin is capable of playing at that level, but he needs to understand that he needs to grow and develop emotionally or he's going to risk hitting a mental slump before he's even really started.

Ninety five percent of this game is mental state and if you keep throwing him in with the Lions and he keeps getting eaten up, it's going to kill his mental game and he's going to end up where I am, his mid thrities and times off from the game he loves and nothing really to show for it. Maybe that's why I get soo upset hen I see kids being lauded up the way Austin, Chuckie and all of these other kids are ,because I know that the emotional stability and readiness is frgaile at that age and it can be an extreme detriment to their game. I know this from experience.

Oh well, I'm probably talking to deaf ears.


Jaden.

Logic is not allowed on this forum. Please refrain from the use of it. Austin is better than efren and could've easily won had there been no rail shots, long shots, or clusters, on the table and could play every shot with stop engrish.

He certainly deserved the chance to play Efren far more than all the other seasoned players that have played longer than Austin's been alive that really wanted to play Efren as well.

Look I know the kid isn't completely terrible but it's f'in selfish to take that spot to play Efren over everyone else. That's bullsh*t in my opinion. And thats why I'm more against this kid.. A) hes not that good and B) even if he was better there were more deserving opponents.

beetle
04-30-2008, 10:13 AM
Look I know the kid isn't completely terrible but it's f'in selfish to take that spot to play Efren over everyone else. That's bullsh*t in my opinion. And thats why I'm more against this kid.. A) hes not that good and B) even if he was better there were more deserving opponents.

I didn't realize the "spot" was reserved for "everyone else". The spot went to Austin because that's who won the most votes. Period. You and Jaden are like broken records....

beetle
04-30-2008, 10:22 AM
There were a lot of us who called this exactly how it went down.

I guess that makes you a genius. Austin clearly didn't bring his game, but I don't remember anybody expecting Austin to win.

Sure if you have seven inch pockets

Who mentioned 7 inch pockets???

he's not going to be emotionally prepared for the lights cameras spotlight, etc.

Isn't that the purpose of this, to get the experience? Is he required to wait until he's 18 to be allowed to play with A players?

Oh well, I'm probably talking to deaf ears.

Because your points are completely without merit.

ccn7
04-30-2008, 10:23 AM
Luck plays a part in our game for sure, you hear it all the time. He or she sure was lucky to win that one. or Wow what a lucky roll they got off that shot. Very seldom do we hear someone deserves that. This whole post about Austin is confusing. First off the Young Man (not kid) was lucky enough to play one of the greatest ever, did he deserve to... Next we have the voting match, again Austin was lucky to be matched up with the greatest again, did he deserve to... Well most think so as he won the voting. Can you imagine if we all got what we deserved....Yikes.. i'm gona continue to be happy for Austin and wish him the best, as many of you have already done.

JAM
04-30-2008, 10:24 AM
Well, the only thing I want to know is where are the pictures.

I want pictures. Why, why, why has no one posted up any pictures? :mad:

JAM

poolhustler
04-30-2008, 10:35 AM
I guess that makes you a genius. Austin clearly didn't bring his game, but I don't remember anybody expecting Austin to win.



Who mentioned 7 inch pockets???



Isn't that the purpose of this, to get the experience? Is he required to wait until he's 18 to be allowed to play with A players?



Because your points are completely without merit.

I concur!!!

parvus1202
04-30-2008, 10:41 AM
Kevin will not sell this video. I know he will try to. That is business however you see it. If you all voted for SVB and Reyes, then you have a better fight and better business. Remember, 3 Filipinos have already beaten 3 Americans. You all need to vote for your best to catch up.

uwate
04-30-2008, 10:59 AM
..useless arguing...deleted
sorry azb

MikeM
04-30-2008, 11:15 AM
Oh well, I'm probably talking to deaf ears.


Jaden.

You're absolutely right. As predicted this was a traveshamockery of professional pool, but most of the Austin lovers just don't want to hear it. If they were talking about a certain cue maker they might just be call hangers of some kind:D :D :D .

MM

LAMas
04-30-2008, 11:19 AM
Where did this match take place - what pool hall or studio?
Thanks.

fanthom
04-30-2008, 11:34 AM
And as you would imagine, Efren has not made a ball on the break again. He is 0-11 on the breaks...unbelievable.

That's why they didn't send him to Fujariah, UAE last week :D .

fanthom
04-30-2008, 11:40 AM
Ok....Why would Efren say he likes used chalk?.....anyone...

. . . it sticks well on the tip vs. chalk that's brand new and has a dry and hard feel to it. New chalk appears to have some type of coating that the manufacturer puts on top of it to prevent it from crumbling until it's pulled out of the box. ;)

fanthom
04-30-2008, 12:20 PM
There were a lot of us who called this exactly how it went down. I wasn't able to see it because I had to pull a double shift yesterday I worked from 8 in the morning until 1145 last night.

All of these people saying that oh you didn't see his real game etc..etc... I'm not dogging Austin's game, but come on... what does it take for people to admit that this kid was just outclassed and had no business this early in his career playing someone like Efren. Those threads on the voting for Austin, don't vote for Austin etc... were reminiscent of the threads talking about the female pros versus the male top pros. There's the way it is and then there's the way that certain people want it to be.

"Oh it's tight pockets, if the pockets were looser, if the cameras weren't there, etc.etc." Sure if you have seven inch pockets, even your average banger has a chance against Efren. The kid is a kid and even if his game CAN be at times at the level necessary to compete with the likes of Efren, Johnny, Alex, Santos, etc... he's not going to be emotionally prepared for the lights cameras spotlight, etc. I'm sure that Austin is capable of playing at that level, but he needs to understand that he needs to grow and develop emotionally or he's going to risk hitting a mental slump before he's even really started.

Ninety five percent of this game is mental state and if you keep throwing him in with the Lions and he keeps getting eaten up, it's going to kill his mental game and he's going to end up where I am, his mid thrities and times off from the game he loves and nothing really to show for it. Maybe that's why I get soo upset hen I see kids being lauded up the way Austin, Chuckie and all of these other kids are ,because I know that the emotional stability and readiness is frgaile at that age and it can be an extreme detriment to their game. I know this from experience.

Oh well, I'm probably talking to deaf ears.


Jaden.


This about says it all. Good wan! I've known Austin ever since he's a young kid, perhaps 7 or 8 from the local SF Bay Area tourneys he and his older brother participated in. He has a very supportive and loving family which means alot to a kid. An observation I had with Austin is he appears to be very emotional when a match's outcome turns out otherwise. It appears to still be the case according to some of the posts here. IMO, Austin could be bettered emotionally and skillfully, but he needs to be exposed to tougher competition against better players around his age up to maybe 21 y.o.

It is unfortunate that the Philippines is far-off and US visas are hard to come by because there are many in Austin's age there that would be willing to step up and take the challenge. Mika Immonen and Marcus Chamat did and have improved, matured and intensified their games. Efren and all the other Phil. players were honed in this environment where natural talent, skill, perseverance, tenacity and intestinal fortitude must all go together to prevail. Players that are constantly exposed to such tough competitive environment eventually becomes accustomed to the rigors of stiff competition and the handling of defeat. I suppose Mr. J Helfert is a witness to a few of these. And BTW, crying in public from a loss is not well received and becomes the object of ridicule, more oftenly becomes the involuntary 'a.k.a' of a player and should best be done, if at all necessary, in private with no witnesses.

The 2008 10-ball WPC will be upcoming this September. It would be a great exposure and opportunity for Austin if he can be sponsored and make a month trip to play the qualifiers and hopefully the main event. There will be plenty of local action as well where he can have a good gauge of where his game stands against the Philippine and international arena. ;)

cubc
04-30-2008, 02:25 PM
i dont believe anyone here has said anything about wanting to vote for a match that would be the best money making business for KT. I voted for Austin bc he came on here and asked politely for support. He is a great player and Cubc, you can get played for as much as you like after your match with OMGWTF. I know I for one would ante up to stake the kid if Austin and his Dad are ok with it. If you think the kid is not that good, well then step right the fek up bc you have action.


It's not about whether or not I think I can beat him. I know I'll have a line of better players ready to beat my brains out after next month. There are a ton of players that can give me the 7 and win.

I already stated why I didnt agree with this matchup and it had nothing to do with MY skill level.

uwate
04-30-2008, 02:53 PM
...useless arguing...deleted
sorry azb

cubc
04-30-2008, 03:12 PM
what goes up must come down.

uwate
04-30-2008, 03:20 PM
...useless arguing...deleted
sorry azb

cubc
04-30-2008, 03:26 PM
If at first you dont succeed then skydiving isnt for you.

uwate
04-30-2008, 03:32 PM
...useless arguing...deleted
sorry azb

cubc
04-30-2008, 03:41 PM
This donut has purple stuff in it. purples a fruit.

LAMas
04-30-2008, 04:19 PM
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AceHigh
04-30-2008, 09:22 PM
If the pockets were a bit bigger he would have gotten to 10, if not won the whole thing.


Think about that for a second.

You realize if the pockets were bigger that Efren still has the advantage, right?

Let's face the facts. Efren is a top tier pro who has a better stroke, more knowledge, and much more experience than this Austin kid.

These two could play match after match, and anyone who would even consider putting money on Austin must hate money.

That's not to say Austin doesn't have a great future ahead of him right now. But seriously, it makes me wonder if people actually thought he had a chance against Efren.

jay helfert
04-30-2008, 11:03 PM
This about says it all. Good wan! I've known Austin ever since he's a young kid, perhaps 7 or 8 from the local SF Bay Area tourneys he and his older brother participated in. He has a very supportive and loving family which means alot to a kid. An observation I had with Austin is he appears to be very emotional when a match's outcome turns out otherwise. It appears to still be the case according to some of the posts here. IMO, Austin could be bettered emotionally and skillfully, but he needs to be exposed to tougher competition against better players around his age up to maybe 21 y.o.

It is unfortunate that the Philippines is far-off and US visas are hard to come by because there are many in Austin's age there that would be willing to step up and take the challenge. Mika Immonen and Marcus Chamat did and have improved, matured and intensified their games. Efren and all the other Phil. players were honed in this environment where natural talent, skill, perseverance, tenacity and intestinal fortitude must all go together to prevail. Players that are constantly exposed to such tough competitive environment eventually becomes accustomed to the rigors of stiff competition and the handling of defeat. I suppose Mr. J Helfert is a witness to a few of these. And BTW, crying in public from a loss is not well received and becomes the object of ridicule, more oftenly becomes the involuntary 'a.k.a' of a player and should best be done, if at all necessary, in private with no witnesses.

The 2008 10-ball WPC will be upcoming this September. It would be a great exposure and opportunity for Austin if he can be sponsored and make a month trip to play the qualifiers and hopefully the main event. There will be plenty of local action as well where he can have a good gauge of where his game stands against the Philippine and international arena. ;)

I stayed off this thread for a long time, but this post got me motivated to respond.

I've watched Austin develop over the last few years and he has a lot of potential as a player. Will he make it to the top remains to be seen. Among the very young players I give Landon and Chuckie the best chance at pool stardom. They seem better suited to handle the rigors of pro pool. I wish Austin the best, but he needs to develop a little more maturity as a player. Getting upset will only hurt your game, not improve it.

As far as the young filipinos are concerned, I've seen several in the 14-16 year old range who could give Efren problems RIGHT NOW! He would have to get down and play his best to win. Efren would be the favorite over these filipino kids, but they wouldn't be nervous and they wouldn't fear him. They would be trying hard to beat him. And they have some serious firepower as well, and Efren knows it! He knows who they are better than me.

JB Cases
05-01-2008, 01:19 AM
You're right about the Filipino kids Jay! But that brings up the question of environment. Those kids are among the very best in the world all the time so the "training" they get is tougher than any other place on Earth. The only other place that is close is Taiwan.

In the USA our kids are taught to lay down to trap opponents in order to keep the action flowing. Our kids go to tournaments and they are treated as circus freaks rather than serious competitiors.

Austin will go one of two directions, either he will bear down and put in the work and get as far as his talent will take him or he will quit. Pool is not a matter of survival for Austin as it is with so many others, including a lot of the Filipino kids.

It's a different story when your existence hangs on the game.

cuetechasaurus
05-01-2008, 02:13 AM
In my humble opinion, I think that Austin should have waited until he was a little bit older and more mature as a player to play Efren in this setting. I have seen Austin play, and the kid plays STRONG! I don't think that he is pro level. He is a good shortstop, and that says alot for someone who is 14 years old.

I really think it would have been better if Austin just challenged Reyes to a small money game at some tournament later on down the line. I wanted to see two champions battling it out, not a mismatch. And the reason why it was a mismatch is because a group of people voted for Austin 100x per day.

He needs to get a reputation before he belongs in a challenge match of this sort, playing someone like Efren. I don't think Austin was selfish, but I really don't think he deserved to play.

I hope I'm not talking down on Austin, I am just saying how I really feel about the whole thing. He claimed that he was ready to play Efren, and he really wasnt. Austin was CLEARLY off his game. But when he was campaigning for votes here, he implied that he would pose a challenge to Reyes. He didnt. Instead of a great match, we got a mismatch, so it was a little dissapointing to me.

bandido
05-01-2008, 03:02 AM
You're right about the Filipino kids Jay! But that brings up the question of environment. Those kids are among the very best in the world all the time so the "training" they get is tougher than any other place on Earth. The only other place that is close is Taiwan.

In the USA our kids are taught to lay down to trap opponents in order to keep the action flowing. Our kids go to tournaments and they are treated as circus freaks rather than serious competitiors.

Austin will go one of two directions, either he will bear down and put in the work and get as far as his talent will take him or he will quit. Pool is not a matter of survival for Austin as it is with so many others, including a lot of the Filipino kids.

It's a different story when your existence hangs on the game.
We'll be happy to help hone his skills here in the Philippines. Perry may even make arrangements for him to stay at the players house/quarters next to his house and attend the private high school where Perry's 14 tear old son goes.

Hail Mary Shot
05-01-2008, 12:14 PM
I was thinking it would be 15-5. The biggest issue was the tight pockets, the kid was just not used to them, and played a bit too much to the outside edges. The run he had to get to 6 was pretty good, and he was sinking balls on the break with some open tables. If the pockets were a bit bigger he would have gotten to 10, if not won the whole thing.

Efren won through sheer experience and knowledge of finesse play. By the time he can drive, Austin should be a top 30 finisher in a major tournament.

Was interesting to watch aside from having to listen to the announcers.


I dunno bout the score line would be a 10 or a win because of the tight pockets. besides Efren struggled with those pockets as well. so it could be the same result or far worse of what we've seen (15-6). also the fact that this is only an exhibition match and Efren was simply cruising and giving the kid a break. The Efren that we know doesn't play like this and we know what he is capable of. anyway, according to what Efren said in his interview, he is already experiencing some problems with his stroke consistency and that his back troubles him a lot whenever he bends over the table in every shot.

as for Austin, He'd be glad that he was able to play against the great Efren in the twilight of his career. atleast he got the bragging rights of telling everyone, that he was there and played against the best. truly a very memorable experience. :)

fanthom
05-01-2008, 02:16 PM
I stayed off this thread for a long time, but this post got me motivated to respond.

I've watched Austin develop over the last few years and he has a lot of potential as a player. Will he make it to the top remains to be seen. Among the very young players I give Landon and Chuckie the best chance at pool stardom. They seem better suited to handle the rigors of pro pool. I wish Austin the best, but he needs to develop a little more maturity as a player. Getting upset will only hurt your game, not improve it.

As far as the young filipinos are concerned, I've seen several in the 14-16 year old range who could give Efren problems RIGHT NOW! He would have to get down and play his best to win. Efren would be the favorite over these filipino kids, but they wouldn't be nervous and they wouldn't fear him. They would be trying hard to beat him. And they have some serious firepower as well, and Efren knows it! He knows who they are better than me.

Thanks Jay. I had the fortune to vacation in 1999 and 2004 and I thought I'd bring it up here as a constructive suggestion for the younger US players. I've always enjoyed witnessing tight competition and the Philippines is one place where I've seen it happen, at least in pool. The younglings were really playing their hearts out and I've always appreciated the 'DO OR DIE' and 'CAN DO' spirit in competition. It can never be thought. Either comes natural or a lesson hard learned through experience. When they lose, they lick their wounds. Come back and try again and again. That's fighting spirit and that I love to watch in a battle. 'THE ONLY THING TO FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF, Nothin' else.'

fanthom
05-01-2008, 02:19 PM
We'll be happy to help hone his skills here in the Philippines. Perry may even make arrangements for him to stay at the players house/quarters next to his house and attend the private high school where Perry's 14 tear old son goes.

How I wish I'm still 14. I'd jump on this invite in a heartbeat. Is this what happened to Chamat and Immonen? :D

bandido
05-01-2008, 02:32 PM
How I wish I'm still 14. I'd jump on this invite in a heartbeat. Is this what happened to Chamat and Immonen? :D
.......and Petroni (but dunno if banging his head on the table was learned here:) ) Actually, it's what they did to what they learned.

gopi-1
05-01-2008, 02:42 PM
.......and Petroni (but dunno if banging his head on the table was learned here:) ) Actually, it's what they did to what they learned.



I can't believe my eyes when I saw Petroni hanging around with our regular shortstops and
going from place to place and playing those 1 day tournaments that Julie Falcon used to
set up! I believe that was in '00-'01 when he went with Marcus Chamat, and I was one of
those who went along with the circus act! :p

Mika was on the higher end of pool as he kept himself within the Makati/Cubao area.
I can't believe nobody in here mention Tang Hoa, who considers Manila as his 2nd home!

bandido
05-01-2008, 02:58 PM
I can't believe my eyes when I saw Petroni hanging around with our regular shortstops and
going from place to place and playing those 1 day tournaments that Julie Falcon used to
set up! I believe that was in '00-'01 when he went with Marcus Chamat, and I was one of
those who went along with the circus act! :p

Mika was on the higher end of pool as he kept himself within the Makati/Cubao area.
I can't believe nobody in here mention Tang Hoa, who considers Manila as his 2nd home!
...and Markus Juva

fanthom
05-01-2008, 03:52 PM
I can't believe my eyes when I saw Petroni hanging around with our regular shortstops and
going from place to place and playing those 1 day tournaments that Julie Falcon used to
set up! I believe that was in '00-'01 when he went with Marcus Chamat, and I was one of
those who went along with the circus act! :p

Mika was on the higher end of pool as he kept himself within the Makati/Cubao area.
I can't believe nobody in here mention Tang Hoa, who considers Manila as his 2nd home!

Did these guys mix it up with the local talents like those in Farmers, Coronado lanes, Side Pocket and One Side? How did they measure up? Who is Julie Falcon?

gopi-1
05-01-2008, 03:59 PM
Did these guys mix it up with the local talents like those in Farmers, Coronado lanes, Side Pocket and One Side? How did they measure up? Who is Julie Falcon?


They all did play there and more, but let's just say it was a rude awakening for them. :p

Julie is our poor man's version of Mike Massey, and he saw he didn't have any future on
trick shots whatsoever and decided to be a TD who's always looking for sponsors to
stage one day tournaments for shortstops. I've been out of the Philippine pool scene
for almost 5 years now (migrated to the US Summer '03), but I still keep abreast of
what's going on in there...

AnitoKid
05-01-2008, 04:20 PM
Julie Guevarra, aka Falcon, now heads a local amateur tournament at
Hobbies of Asia (Macapagal Avenue, Pasay City) every Saturday, 7 PM onwards.

The open 9-ball tournaments feature amateur players who slug it out
to win the Php5,000 ($125) first prize. (2nd prize is Php2,000).
Weekly winners are pitted again each other at the end of the month
to determine that month's champion.

Monthly champions (from April to November 2008) then battle it out in
December 2008 for the Php50,000 grand prize.

Enough of the competition thing! :)

Yes, Falcon does trick shots and all. The crowd was treated to some last Saturday.
He is also one of the best players to play pool using one hand - no bridge hand!
Believe you me, he could draw, follow, stop, put english and all on the cue ball
without using a bridge hand! And I kid you not!

Twice I saw him play 9-ball using just one hand (no bridge hand). He even gave
weight to the opposing player, i.e., i believe it was the 8. And Falcon won just
the same - no kidding!

He has tattoos of cue balls on his body, a particular one that everyone
would notice is the 9-ball cue ball tattoo on his wrist.

Falcon also hangs out at Fusion and One-Side. He's a really nice chap
in my book - absolutely loves pool - lives and breathes by it


:)



Julie is our poor man's version of Mike Massey, and he saw he didn't have any future on
trick shots whatsoever and decided to be a TD who's always looking for sponsors to
stage one day tournaments for shortstops.

Dawgie
05-01-2008, 04:32 PM
I was looking forward to this, but I have stopped watching. I'm going to bed before Mike Sigel makes me throw up.


I agree. I didn't see the original match an I had to stop watching now b/c of Mike's constant bantering. He tries to second guess every shot and he is wrong over 50% of the time. UUGGGHHHHH! I wish they would get another commentator.

gopi-1
05-02-2008, 11:48 AM
For those who missed the match, the Reyes/Murphy video is now up on the IPT's video
section, but you have to drag the play progress cursor a bit forward to make it play.

Anyway, is there a way to copy this?

Thunderball
05-02-2008, 12:01 PM
http://www.internationalpooltour.com/Live/4-austin-murphy-vs-efren-reyes.aspx?MatchID=1