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koston08
05-01-2008, 12:13 AM
I pay 150 a month for a monthly pass from my pool hall and I probably would not be able to afford 3 to 6 hours of pool a day otherwise. The hourly rate is 4 bucks an hour/ per person. I am in Portland, Oregon. I am interested in other areas around the US. Does your area have a monthly pass and what does it charge? What is the hourly rate?

s0lidz
05-01-2008, 12:17 AM
I play at 2 different pool halls.

One is $4/hour/person during the day. From 7pm-2am the price is $9/hour flat rate (no matter how many people are on the table).

The other room is $4/hour/person all hours.

This is in Tulsa. Neither have monthly passes that I'm aware of.

manwon
05-01-2008, 12:28 AM
I pay 150 a month for a monthly pass from my pool hall and I probably would not be able to afford 3 to 6 hours of pool a day otherwise. The hourly rate is 4 bucks an hour/ per person. I am in Portland, Oregon. I am interested in other areas around the US. Does your area have a monthly pass and what does it charge? What is the hourly rate?

I own a room in Lakewood, Washington, I have a membership program that runs from 12:30 pm until 6:00 pm 7 days a week. I charge my customers $60 a month. Pictures of my room are posted in the room owners section, under a thread I started, Room owners please post photo's of your room.


Have a good night!!!!!

Fast Lenny
05-01-2008, 12:29 AM
I think all poolhalls would do well with having a monthly membership pass,kinda like a gym,maybe pay a flat fee of a $100 or something and be able to play until you drop.See most poolhalls i have been to have specials,maybe from noon to 7 for $7,cant beat that at a dollar an hour.I think if you speak to a room owner and ask for a month pass at say a $100 the room owner will take the money and write up a pass if he or she is smart,they got a $100 whether you show up or not.

rhncue
05-01-2008, 12:59 AM
I think all poolhalls would do well with having a monthly membership pass,kinda like a gym,maybe pay a flat fee of a $100 or something and be able to play until you drop.See most poolhalls i have been to have specials,maybe from noon to 7 for $7,cant beat that at a dollar an hour.I think if you speak to a room owner and ask for a month pass at say a $100 the room owner will take the money and write up a pass if he or she is smart,they got a $100 whether you show up or not.

I would think it would have to be more than a 100.00 for a monthly pass. Most ball pushers wouldn't spend that much and most who I know who are serious at all spend more than a 100.00 a week.

Dick

Fast Lenny
05-01-2008, 01:09 AM
I would think it would have to be more than a 100.00 for a monthly pass. Most ball pushers wouldn't spend that much and most who I know who are serious at all spend more than a 100.00 a week.

Dick
If i play 4 days a week at say a special off $7 which i have taken advantage of at Kolbys during the daytime,it equates to $28 multiplied by 4 and you get $112,not too bad really for 112 hours of pool a month. :D
I do agree most serious players will spend more then that, sometimes in a single weekend of gambling but i just think its a good idea to get some guys in there who love the game but cant afford $100 or more a week in table time. :cool:

stevea
05-01-2008, 05:56 AM
Pool halls around here usually let you play from 11am to 7pm for $5 (all you can play). Then after 7pm it's usually about $5 an hour per person.

buzzsaw
05-01-2008, 05:58 AM
I was very lucky. I traded some programming time for a lifetime of playing. Of course it helps that the owner is also a friend. Even without that, the cost at this room is $2.75 an hour.

cubc
05-01-2008, 06:00 AM
one pool hall I go to is free if you play on APA. Free all hours any day. 9' tables.

Another one that has slightly better tables is only 2.50 an hour any hour any day if you play APA. 9' tables as well.

The only requirement is that you are on an APA team and play on at least one day a week.

Bassmaster
05-01-2008, 06:02 AM
Local pool hall. Charges 5.00 flat all day from Sun- Wednedsay...then its 4.00/hr per person From Thursday- Sat.

Thunderball
05-01-2008, 06:03 AM
The two I frequent are 6/hour for the balls...niether cares how many people are using said balls or said table.

I guess owners need to get what they can and with good reason,but the per person part of this common billing practice is just kinda out there to me.I mean,once the table is consumed for use,its well consumed...be it one or six players.

I would think "encouraging" large parties would bring more cash for drinks food and such....charging per player discourages large groups I'd think.

But I'm no room owner...just kinda typing outloud.

Flex
05-01-2008, 06:11 AM
I would think it would have to be more than a 100.00 for a monthly pass. Most ball pushers wouldn't spend that much and most who I know who are serious at all spend more than a 100.00 a week.

Dick

No way I spend anywhere near $100 a week. I look for the specials, which vary from room to room, depending when I'm able to shoot. And believe me, in Chicago and the surrounding area, there are plenty of places and specials to take advantage of.

Flex

Flex
05-01-2008, 06:14 AM
If i play 4 days a week at say a special off $7 which i have taken advantage of at Kolbys during the daytime,it equates to $28 multiplied by 4 and you get $112,not too bad really for 112 hours of pool a month. :D
I do agree most serious players will spend more then that, sometimes in a single weekend of gambling but i just think its a good idea to get some guys in there who love the game but cant afford $100 or more a week in table time. :cool:


An employee at a local pool hall a few days ago told me that pool halls can't survive only on table time from gamblers. Nuff said...

Get the bangers in there, buying food and stuff, get them to bring their friends. That's the way for many places, I'm sure.

Flex

mullyman
05-01-2008, 06:19 AM
I'm not in the States but the place I pay at here is 10 bucks from 1:00 to 7:00 and then $7.00 an hour after that. If you're a member it's 6 bucks an hour. Ladies are $5.00 and $4.00 per hour. I was surprised that the prices were the same in Yokohama when I went up there last week.
MULLY
the room I usually play at has 10 GC IV's and 2 Metro's.

stick8
05-01-2008, 07:16 AM
I have owned a room for 10yr and my prices stay the same as i have11 bar boxes and it is .50 a game of 5.00 hr, a private room with gcrown 9ft and big t.v for 8.00 hr all semm happy!!!!:confused: :confused: :confused:

Curtis Smith
05-01-2008, 08:17 AM
I put a table in my house so I don't go to pool halls all that often. But last friday I decided to stop at the local pool hall/bowling alley (since that is about all we have around here as far as pool halls go, they have 5 nine footers there) I got there around 1 pm (over my lunch break) and shot for an hour and fifteen minutes by myself. My bill was almost $9.00!!! :( I thought that was really expensive!! Thank god I have my own table. I try to practice two hours/day, I couldn't possible afford to shoot nearly as much as I do if I had to pay those prices!!! Sounds like you other guys are getting pretty good deals..

mbippus
05-01-2008, 09:10 AM
We have two rooms one is $2.50 perhour per person the other is two. One of the rooms charges twenty a month for a card that allows them to play pool for $1 hour.

champ2107
05-01-2008, 09:19 AM
room I play at is $5 an hour per person, If you play in 2 leagues out of there its $5 flat rate anytime at any of his 3 rooms. bar boxes is a 1.25 there and another place I play bar box at its $2 a game but you get to see some sexy women lol and may try and hustle u for $20 or free dance lol.

hang-the-9
05-01-2008, 09:22 AM
My regular place in RI has daily specials all week long. I think $7 all day weekdays, $8 at night, $8 all day weekends and $10 all night 7pm - 1am. For one person, it's way cheaper, for a group of 3-4+ that are sharing the time for an hour or 2, ends up cheaper for the hourly rate.

No other rooms I have seen in the area have a special, most are 6-12 an hour for 1 or 2 people depending on the time.

n10spool
05-01-2008, 02:49 PM
I pay $85 a month in a 33 table room if more then 8 tables are open its free with the membership. Normal price $9.00 hr daytime & 10.50 nightime.

My old pool hall I used to go to n the bay area was $35.00 a month including 15% off food. Normal rate $4.00 per person an hr. If tables were full you paid unless 3 or more were on your table then you were free again.
And if you ordered the 6.00 lunch plate you get 1\2hr free pool.

Fast Lenny
05-01-2008, 02:57 PM
I pay $85 a month in a 33 table room if more then 8 tables are open its free with the membership. Normal price $9.00 hr daytime & 10.50 nightime.

My old pool hall I used to go to n the bay area was $35.00 a month including 15% off food. Normal rate $4.00 per person an hr. If tables were full you paid unless 3 or more were on your table then you were free again.
And if you ordered the 6.00 lunch plate you get 1\2hr free pool.
See this sounds very reasonable for someone who is looking to get alot of table time for the money.I wish more poolhalls would offer a membership and im sure alot of players would take advantage of it and be in there more,also if they are there more often taking advantage of the membership,they will be spending money on food and drinks also. :)

The King
05-01-2008, 03:03 PM
Our pool room charges 2.40 a hour per person....But they make most of thier money selling lunch to the local town folks...

14.1player
05-01-2008, 03:24 PM
I pay $15 - $20 per hour.... A table will pay for itself in 1 year :( :D

BRKNRUN
05-01-2008, 03:39 PM
11 years ago I bought a pool room for $15,000.

It has one 9' GC II Table, 1 TV (& PS2), 1 Stereo, a Dart Board (that never gets used), Smoking Patio with Refrigerator... and is open 16 hours a day.

I average only about 8 hours of play a week.

8x52= 624
624 X 11 = 6864
6864 x $5 = $34,320

I figure after a generous overhead cost for electric I am up about $14,000 so far.......The price seems pretty good to me...;)

plane_o
05-01-2008, 04:18 PM
Several pool room in the Dallas/Fort Worth area charge a flat rate from 11:00am - 7:00pm.. Usually $3 to $5. After 7:00pm the rate goes to ~ $9 per hour

TXsouthpaw
05-01-2008, 04:19 PM
regulars at my local hall dont pay for pool. theirs usually open tables so its not like we're costing them money. They get their money back on alcohol sales anyways. As for other pool halls around here its between 5-10 an hours depending on the hall, no subscriptions around here.

jus4funbilliard
05-01-2008, 04:22 PM
in my room 11am to 6pm everyday can play for five dollars and sunday and wed 6pm to 11pm same special reg price six an hour for one,ten for two eleven for three ,four or more twelve an hour

tommy84
05-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Prices in Germany

My poolhall charges ?5,50 for 9ft Brunswick Century. They are not really maintained, but I can understand this as those are cheap public tables and especially at the weekends it's teenagers shooting some colored balls around and having a beer or 5...
They charge ?6,50 for the 4 9ft Brunswick Gold Crown III with yearly changed Simonis 860 powder-blue and are lined out for straight pool using a normal rack. Playing the other direction you have a tapped racked for 8 and 9-ball but no headstring.
Those 4 tables are also used for league matches where they use perfectly maintained SuperPro TV sets
During normal hours you have to cope with old and poorly maintained Centennials or SuperPro
They also have one 12ft Snooker table which is ?7,50/h
Beverages are resonably priced

But this is in a small city of 30.000 inhabitants.
I've seen prices up to ?10 in big cities like Munich and also beverages were quite expensive - they had perfect playing conditions never the less with either GoldCrown IV or German-made Lehmacher tables

CocoboloCowboy
05-01-2008, 04:54 PM
Many of the sports bars, and bars in the Phoenix Metro Area that have both 4.5?s x 9.0?s, & bar boxes, and will let you play for FREE between opening and 6 or 7 PM M-F, and one Seven Days a week if you purchase a drink.

Lakewalker
05-01-2008, 04:54 PM
11 years ago I bought a pool room for $15,000.

It has one 9' GC II Table, 1 TV (& PS2), 1 Stereo, a Dart Board (that never gets used), Smoking Patio with Refrigerator... and is open 16 hours a day.

I average only about 8 hours of play a week.

8x52= 624
624 X 11 = 6864
6864 x $5 = $34,320

I figure after a generous overhead cost for electric I am up about $14,000 so far.......The price seems pretty good to me...;)

Don't forget the gas/transportation costs your saving having your own "club".

Of course you may not like the person your playing with...:D

rackmsuckr
05-02-2008, 01:32 AM
We aren't all that far from Portland, but the 2 rooms here in Medford have free pool from 11-2 and those are the only times I have gone to actually practice, so I'm not sure what their normal rates are. The only other times I go are for their tournaments or leagues.

Rack Em charges $5.95, but you get lunch. I got a huge blackened salmon Caesar salad and a drink and pool time. I liked that! Wish I got more days locally in our area and off around lunchtime. :(

The Break Room is free from 11-2, but their homemade BBQ hot wings are the best, so I always eat when I am there! They also have some of the most creative names for their dishes, that are pool related, like Mushroom Tip. :p

desert1pocket
05-02-2008, 08:56 AM
The normal table time where I play is $6.75/hr per person. From 11am to 6pm, the gambling tables are $6.75/hr no matter how many people are playing, and the rest of the tables are a flat rate of $4.50 for the whole 7 hours. I wish we had a monthly membership, I'd gladly pay $200 or more a month instead of what it costs me now.

MBTaylor
05-02-2008, 09:11 AM
Some of the places I go to in Baltimore are,

Merritt Point Billiards - $5/hr/person or $20 for 24 hrs

North Point Billiards - $2/hr/person or $6 for 6 hours if a league member

Cheers Bar & Grille - League on non-league night $5/hr/person. Non-league $10/hr/person

Kellys Pool Hall - $2/hr/person (I think)

jasonlaus
05-02-2008, 09:47 AM
Tell me again why pool rooms are closing everywhere. could it be they don't charge enough? when you go practice for FREE do you drink alcohol? probably not. So where are they making money off of you? Do you think the tables recover themselves? how about the person/s behind the counter are they working for free? If they are the owner the answer is YES!!! Not saying the membership is bad it's a great idea but the people on here that say they go play for free & then only on league or tournament days otherwise, are taking advantage.

highrun55
05-02-2008, 09:51 AM
If the room sells booze and has food they can do these type of deals.

Since I don`t sell either in my room I have a life time membership for $15.00, then they get a punch coupon for 10 hours of play and they get a free hour and a punch coupon for 30 days of play and then they get a free day, open to close.

They also get free play on their birthday and 10% discount on cues and cases. They love it.

Mon thru Thur play from noon till 6 pm for $15.00

My rates are $4.00 per hr each noon till 6 pm and $5.00 per hr each after 6 pm and lower than all the rooms around me.


highrun55

poolplayer2093
05-02-2008, 11:45 AM
There's a pool hall in oakland near berkley that charges 35 an hour

tommy84
05-02-2008, 12:19 PM
Quite interesting too read that most of the US poolhalls charge per hour and person.

Here in Germany it's per hour and table, no matter if you practice alone or play doubles
Discounts during afternoon are common, flatrates are an exception.
Most poolhalls have discounts for league players of the club the poolhall hosts, not for players of other clubs

Fatboy
05-02-2008, 12:27 PM
onr pool room i play in, they dont charge me, but I tip out everyone real good, they treat me great. I'm not sure what table time is but I'm sure I tip them more than it would cost-but I dont careI like to be nice to the,.

at another one I go to i pay but I really notice how much it costs either, i tip them out more than the tab, its just the right thing to do, good guys at both rooms.


i havent been out to either spot in 4-5 months-since i got a table and back has babs. before I made any real $$$ I have awalys been a great tipper, i do the same in resteraunts and valets, its just the right thing to do, i dont tip cashiers but true house men-a rare breed nowdays i awalys take care of,

Highlanduh
05-02-2008, 12:33 PM
RI Billiards in Centredale, RI is as follows:

HOURLY RATES:
Members $3.50/hr
$6.00/hr for 2
$7.50/hr for 3
$9.00/hr for 4
Non Members: Add $2.00 per person, flat rate, like a cover charge.


ALL DAY RATE: 10am- 6pm
Members $7.00
Non Members $9.00

Membership is $10/year

cueandcushion
05-02-2008, 01:01 PM
Our room charges $3.60/hour/person.
$1.80/ during the daytime Mon-Friday and about 12 other specials. Everything from Military getting half off to free pool on your birthday. We do not serve alcohol, we have no memberships. All tables are on first come first serve basis. And we have a $2.00 minimum.

jasonlaus understands the economics well. There is very little money in pool time. Most pool rooms make their money off alcohol sales or retail sales. By having free pool when you don't buy alcohol; there is negative income with that customer.

Pros and Cons on per person charging.
Charge by the person makes larger groups hesitant to play. Charging by the table means every single person that wants to practice alone; makes them choose someplace else. A lot of places have the two person minimum rule or charges less per person as more people join a table.

Pool rooms are going out of business because they are trying to charge a price that is less than they need just to survive. This is an attempt to only lose a little money instead of not making ANYTHING. This economic adjustment will probably continue for another two years until this recession is over. Then with 60% of the pool rooms gone under there will be a price increase when demand exceeds the number of tables available. Our company has been lucky enough to survive these downturns before. Hopefully we will again.

There are very few business models where loitering is that common or your service is sometimes given away for free at a competitor.

Could you imagine if McDonalds had to compete with Burger King if they had free FOOD every day all day? And then they try and make money off selling kids toys and no one buys the toys? THAT is the current economic model for billiard parlors today. One of 20 reasons they are going down like ducks in an arcade. Tough business right now. :(

LeagueShirts
05-02-2008, 01:02 PM
Our APA site is a 16 table rough smoking bar type place. Seems like all the APA guys get free time, the core group drinks pretty crazy and goes there 2-4 days a week. I go less often lately b/c my GF got a real job and can't work off of 5hrs sleep as I used to this past year.

Anyway! Free time is good. Not sure what normal ppl pay. Crappy balls, stained tables, crooked sticks. They work though. Keeps ya fighting tough!

n10spool
05-02-2008, 01:09 PM
I pay $15 - $20 per hour.... A table will pay for itself in 1 year :( :D


Problom is the rent, elictricity, and the almighty insurance @ 15-20 how would you keep customers coming back? Its about return customers You have I think ten years to right the tables of your taxes. I t's getting everyperson that walks in your place to spend that $20-50 everytime they walk in with a smile and make them feel like thier accepted here. and not just a totum pole for an hour's worth of rent.

n10spool
05-02-2008, 01:15 PM
There's a pool hall in oakland near berkley that charges 35 an hour

Which pool hall is that Chalkers in San fransisco used to be real high but not $35.00 an hour I dont recll it that high.

Fatboy
05-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Quite interesting too read that most of the US poolhalls charge per hour and person.

Here in Germany it's per hour and table, no matter if you practice alone or play doubles
Discounts during afternoon are common, flatrates are an exception.
Most poolhalls have discounts for league players of the club the poolhall hosts, not for players of other clubs

the room I play in in Munich is 10 Euro/hour no matter how many players-its prorated by a computer, which is ALOT since the $USD is worthless nowdays.:(

AZE
05-02-2008, 06:18 PM
$5/hr is about normal. $5-10 day specials (from 11am-7pm generally). $10-$20 night specials (7pm-2am generally, usually for players).

poolplayer2093
05-02-2008, 06:32 PM
Which pool hall is that Chalkers in San fransisco used to be real high but not $35.00 an hour I dont recll it that high.


no it's in oakland. it's an all asian pool hall about 12 tables i think 4 billiards tables it's off telegraph and fiftysomething street.

n10spool
05-02-2008, 09:19 PM
no it's in oakland. it's an all asian pool hall about 12 tables i think 4 billiards tables it's off telegraph and fiftysomething street.

Did that use to be Chelse place big guy used to run it If not I will have to go find it so I can work on there tables if they are getting that much.

poolplayer2093
05-02-2008, 10:07 PM
Did that use to be Chelse place big guy used to run it If not I will have to go find it so I can work on there tables if they are getting that much.

i don't recall. there was a sign that said due to their rent going up they would soon be raising prices. the tables were in decent condition. a little lower and the pockets could be tighter

TheBook
05-02-2008, 10:32 PM
In Michigan there is a up scale pool hall chain called Snookers. With a $7 bar bill (including food) you can play for free from 11 to 5. You can also go to a local Moose hall and play on their bar boxes for free.

If I were you I would buy my own table. Save on gas and can play whenever you want.

CB,CornerPockeT
05-02-2008, 10:59 PM
Man it all sounds so cheap. Free? Flat rate unlimited? Here in socal the best I've found is Mr Lucky's $3/player/hour daytime, but generally am stuck with $9/hr for 2 players (HOB) or even $12/hr at some places in ktown (I usually play with a friend). Too expensive. Some places (Embassy) are even $12-14+! Singe player!

poolplayer2093
05-02-2008, 11:35 PM
Man it all sounds so cheap. Free? Flat rate unlimited? Here in socal the best I've found is Mr Lucky's $3/player/hour daytime, but generally am stuck with $9/hr for 2 players (HOB) or even $12/hr at some places in ktown (I usually play with a friend). Too expensive. Some places (Embassy) are even $12-14+! Singe player!

3 dollars an hour is great as far as table time goes. and 9 dollars an hour is really only 4.50 an hour. you got it good bro

CB,CornerPockeT
05-02-2008, 11:51 PM
3 dollars an hour is great as far as table time goes. and 9 dollars an hour is really only 4.50 an hour. you got it good bro

i guess i was more complaining about the $12 and $14/hr places, even for single player. a bit ridiculous for average/mediocre tables.

$3 and $4.50 is pretty good but i rarely find enough time in the daytime to play, and the evening prices are significantly higher.

Cuedog
05-02-2008, 11:55 PM
Tell me again why pool rooms are closing everywhere. could it be they don't charge enough? when you go practice for FREE do you drink alcohol? probably not. So where are they making money off of you? Do you think the tables recover themselves? how about the person/s behind the counter are they working for free? If they are the owner the answer is YES!!! Not saying the membership is bad it's a great idea but the people on here that say they go play for free & then only on league or tournament days otherwise, are taking advantage.
TAP, TAP, TAP.

You represent the 1% of players that understand and care about what low rates do to our sport. Many players wonder why a place charges $4.00 an hour and wishes it were less, while at the same time wondering why the place that they frequent, that charges $2.00 per hour, won't get the tables recovered more often.

Usually when someone has a suggestion how an owner could do better, they are looking for a discount. A win, win is if you offer a plan where as you continue to pay the amount you pay now and the owner finds a way to give you more table time and service for that amount. He can't continue to go backwards without eventually going out, period.

Support your local pool hall. It may not be there next week.

Gene