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DeadPoked
05-01-2008, 07:33 AM
I think it's really telling of a persons character to come on here and bash a young kid, who frequents this forums and a fellow AZ'er if you will, that was only trying to fullfill a dream of playing against the greatest player ever.

I think it took a lot of bravery for the kid to put himself in that position to play against the best player in the world and to be such a huge underdog in front of so many people. The only thing I've ever heard anyone bash the kid on is his maturity level and I think this match was a big stepping stone in gaining maturity on the table. I did not see the very end of the match but I did see most of it and the interviews and I thought Austin handled himself very well.

After Austin was able to get his nerves in check he started playing some very good pool. I believe he ran the table off Efrens dry break and then followed that up with the first break and run of the match. I remember seeing Efrens face when Austin started to really play, you could tell that he knew he had to pull back the reins on the kid and it was time to get serious.

I feel that it was a treat to be able to watch a match between the greatest player ever who is nearing the end of competitive pool career and a future star who is just coming into his own.

easy-e
05-01-2008, 07:37 AM
Word. Some people are just born as A-holes.

JAM
05-01-2008, 07:42 AM
There are some unfortunates who don't have a clue about professional pool. In fact, they most likely are envious of Austin's capabilities at such a young age. To compensate for their inferiorities, bashing Austin on this forum gives them some sense of gratification.

Opinions can be expressed without being mean-spirited.

JAM

Black-Balled
05-01-2008, 07:47 AM
Truth...

10 mufuggincharachters?!

UrackmIcrackm
05-01-2008, 07:48 AM
Hopefully the elder Mr. Murphy can help the younger Mr. Murphy understand that it is a simple matter of jealousy. He should not take it personally as hurtful but instead be flattered that he has something (talent & the good fortune of playing a true ledgend) that others (Mr. GREEN with envy bumpy pickle) can only dream of having.

Mr. Green with envy realizes he'll never be where the young Mr. Murphy is or where he is sure to go in the future so he's trying to make himself feel better about himself by saying derrogatory remarks. I call it being a "sore loser".

uwate
05-01-2008, 07:50 AM
funny thing is the internet empowers them to say things they would never say in person to Austin.

On top of it Austin's family are trying to do things the right way, not let their son be some kind of pool hall delinquent. They have to now deal with jackasses in the best forum for pool taking cheap shots at their son. Its disgusting imo.

SpiderWebComm
05-01-2008, 07:51 AM
Here's how I see it....

EVERY SINGLE PERSON I've EVEEEEEEEEER seen post on here has dogged their GUTS out in front of GROUPS of people. I don't care who you are, what world championship you've won, you've puked on yourself sometime in your life. Maybe long ago, maybe yesterday - or you might do it tomorrow.

I think people voted Austin in because they knew he has game and it's a stark contrast to have a 14-year-old play the best. How much electricity would there have been if he played over his head? It'd be like all the little Hulkamaniacs running wild on AZB posting a gazillion posts about how he's a genius and a prodigy, etc.etc. I'm the first to admit, he was out-gunned no matter how he played and it wasn't the most exciting match-up (for my personal tastes) - but cut the kid a break.

The bottom line is that young kid who dogged out against arguably the best ever would take the HEART of nearly every player on here for the cash and make those posters PUKE and DOG in front of their own families, if you ever invited your family along to watch you get bashed by someone who can't even drive legally yet.

Blackjack
05-01-2008, 07:56 AM
Great post, DeadPoked.

When I was 16 years old, I had the opportunity to play against Steve Mizerak. I almost crapped my pants when he won the lag and tossed a 3 pack on me to get things started. It was all downhill for me from there - I was awestruck - nervous - playing wayyyyyy out of my league - but I had the balls to show up, screw my cue together, take the beating - and the ridicule I received from friends and family that told me I had no business playing the top pros.

When a 14 year old has the balls to hook-em-up with THE GREATEST PLAYER IN HISTORY - and is able to put a few games together - run a few racks - he gets my respect.

For those that have come on here and made the negative comments, they probably couldn't have done half as well as Austin did - given the pressure, exposure, and chance of a lifetime opportunity to play a legend.

Back in 1988, I was playing in a tournament and I drew Cowboy Jimmy Moore in the first round. I was talking to Randyg - I told him what bad luck I had about drawing (of all people) Cowboy Jimmy Moore to start the tournament. I'll never forget what Randy said to me that day - He said, "It's not bad luck at all - what a wonderful opportunity to be able to play and learn from a legend." I've kept that with me for almost 20 years now, because it is the best attitude for anybody to take when they are playing the elite.

Austin has a great career ahead of him, this is just the beginning. He has played the greatest player that the world has to offer, and he knows where he stands. The match against Efren is no longer a "what if" for Austin. In 25 years he can tell the story of how he fared against The Magician in this match. I look forward to seeing the young guns, such as Austin, Landon Shuffett, Justin Bergman - they are the future of our game - and they all have my utmost respect, support, and admiration.

3andstop
05-01-2008, 08:01 AM
Word. Some people are just born as A-holes.


First of all I don't know what match the people who bashed that youngster were watching, but what I saw was a great young player with tons of skill.

I agree that anyone who would bash such a great young player is way out of line.

But .. .back to the A-hole thing. While I watched this great fun match, (and "listened" to it) I wonder if the real A-hole would please stand up. :rolleyes:

Jude Rosenstock
05-01-2008, 08:01 AM
I lost 10-0 to Nick Varner and felt good about it.

cubc
05-01-2008, 08:21 AM
Here's how I see it....

EVERY SINGLE PERSON I've EVEEEEEEEEER seen post on here has dogged their GUTS out in front of GROUPS of people. I don't care who you are, what world championship you've won, you've puked on yourself sometime in your life. Maybe long ago, maybe yesterday - or you might do it tomorrow.

I think people voted Austin in because they knew he has game and it's a stark contrast to have a 14-year-old play the best. How much electricity would there have been if he played over his head? It'd be like all the little Hulkamaniacs running wild on AZB posting a gazillion posts about how he's a genius and a prodigy, etc.etc. I'm the first to admit, he was out-gunned no matter how he played and it wasn't the most exciting match-up (for my personal tastes) - but cut the kid a break.

The bottom line is that young kid who dogged out against arguably the best ever would take the HEART of nearly every player on here for the cash and make those posters PUKE and DOG in front of their own families, if you ever invited your family along to watch you get bashed by someone who can't even drive legally yet.

True statements. Everyone does go through it. I still remember the match, game, and specific shot where I was shaking like a leaf. I know many people are hoping I choke in 16 days too.

The kid did seem very polite and well mannered. I do agree with what Mike Sigel said about the spin on the ball though... the same thing Earl told someone who went to the archer / earl pool school too. If he adds that to his game it'll help.

olauzon
05-01-2008, 08:27 AM
i think it's more about making a provocative or stupid comment. normal people back off or explain while others, damn well knowing that they're in the wrong, are stupid enough to stick with it; in their minds being special and separating themselves from the crowd. and they are, negatively.

i voted for Austin because i would've loved saying today i played Fats in a money game when i was 14. Austin will always be a favorite of mine.

oh man, i should've been divilsh in that post... #666

wt.. and got 66 inbox messages.. (is that a tail?.. damn i got a tail too..)

Tommy-D
05-01-2008, 08:28 AM
> Don't look at me,I never said a word. Personally,I think it took balls to just get up there. Tommy D.

Ktown D
05-01-2008, 08:36 AM
I think it's really telling of a persons character to come on here and bash a young kid, who frequents this forums and a fellow AZ'er if you will, that was only trying to fullfill a dream of playing against the greatest player ever.

I think it took a lot of bravery for the kid to put himself in that position to play against the best player in the world and to be such a huge underdog in front of so many people. The only thing I've ever heard anyone bash the kid on is his maturity level and I think this match was a big stepping stone in gaining maturity on the table. I did not see the very end of the match but I did see most of it and the interviews and I thought Austin handled himself very well.

After Austin was able to get his nerves in check he started playing some very good pool. I believe he ran the table off Efrens dry break and then followed that up with the first break and run of the match. I remember seeing Efrens face when Austin started to really play, you could tell that he knew he had to pull back the reins on the kid and it was time to get serious.

I feel that it was a treat to be able to watch a match between the greatest player ever who is nearing the end of competitive pool career and a future star who is just coming into his own.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DeadPoked again.


Good post man. I was thinkin along those same lines but I am too damn lazy to type as much as you do.:)

bigskyjake
05-01-2008, 08:37 AM
what's the deal with pickles beef with Austin. He's been talking shit about him for quite a while now. My guess would be some kind of super-envy

Southpaw
05-01-2008, 09:04 AM
I think it's really telling of a persons character to come on here and bash a young kid, who frequents this forums and a fellow AZ'er if you will, that was only trying to fullfill a dream of playing against the greatest player ever.

I think it took a lot of bravery for the kid to put himself in that position to play against the best player in the world and to be such a huge underdog in front of so many people. The only thing I've ever heard anyone bash the kid on is his maturity level and I think this match was a big stepping stone in gaining maturity on the table. I did not see the very end of the match but I did see most of it and the interviews and I thought Austin handled himself very well.

After Austin was able to get his nerves in check he started playing some very good pool. I believe he ran the table off Efrens dry break and then followed that up with the first break and run of the match. I remember seeing Efrens face when Austin started to really play, you could tell that he knew he had to pull back the reins on the kid and it was time to get serious.

I feel that it was a treat to be able to watch a match between the greatest player ever who is nearing the end of competitive pool career and a future star who is just coming into his own.

I agree 100%. Austin should chalk this one up to exposure....He is 14 and will absorb alot right now and learn to use it to his advantage. Good job, Ausitn...

Southpaw

uwate
05-01-2008, 09:08 AM
...useless arguing...deleted
sorry azb

catscradle
05-01-2008, 09:17 AM
I think it's really telling of a persons character to come on here and bash a young kid, who frequents this forums and a fellow AZ'er if you will, that was only trying to fullfill a dream of playing against the greatest player ever.
....

Maybe I missed something because I've been busy and missed a lot of posts on that subject, but I didn't think anybody was really bashing Austin. True, some people were brutally frank, but I don't really see anything wrong with that. When you throw yourself in the public eye, that comes with the territory.
I admire the kid's balls, but personally I think the viewing public would have been better served by a less lopsided match-up.

Tom In Cincy
05-01-2008, 09:17 AM
I've seen Austin progress his game since he was 9 years old.

His Parents and brother have been with him (at least his Dad has attended all of them) in almost every tournament he's played in.

Austin is also a baseball and tennis player for his high school. He is considered the best of the high school team as a freshman. Austin's dad was a semi-pro tennis player. Austin's dad is his primary coach and mentor.

I admire the parents dedication to their sons (both Austin and Braden). Braden plays at least 2 Wheelchair events a year. Braden seems to always cash in those events.

And if it hasn't been discussed before... Austin hasn't discovered the effects of the female attractions yet!!!

bigskyjake
05-01-2008, 09:19 AM
I've seen Austin progress his game since he was 19 years old.
His Parents and brother have been with him (at least his Dad has attended all of them) in almost every tournament he's played in.

Austin is also a baseball and tennis player for his high school. He is considered the best of the high school team as a freshman. Austin's dad was a semi-pro tennis player. Austin's dad is his primary coach and mentor.

I admire the parents dedication to their sons (both Austin and Braden). Braden plays at least 2 Wheelchair events a year. Braden seems to always cash in those events.

And if it hasn't been discussed before... Austin hasn't discovered the effects of the female attractions yet!!!

He's only 14 years old

poolplayer2093
05-01-2008, 09:21 AM
yeah i saw part of that thread but didn't open it. he's a kid and apparently he plays very well.as for him crying after the game, it shows that he takes a lot of pride in his game. i don't think anyone expected him to win but he still gave it everything he had (he must have if the loss hurt that much)

Tom In Cincy
05-01-2008, 09:23 AM
He's only 14 years old


Thanks for the error checking.. I meant to type '9 years old'
I went back and edited it ...

Thanks again

Scaramouche
05-01-2008, 09:33 AM
Being a star has made it possible for me to get insulted in places where the average Negro could never hope to go and get insulted.
Sammy Davis Jr.

Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength.
Eric Hoffer

What's on your mind, if you will allow the overstatement?
Fred Allen

I love it when someone insults me. That means that I don't have to be nice anymore.
Billy Idol

Patrick Johnson
05-01-2008, 09:33 AM
Austin hasn't discovered the effects of the female attractions yet!!!

He's only 14 years old

Both of these statements can't be true.

pj
chgo

jimmy-leggs
05-01-2008, 09:34 AM
If you read this Austin.........You earned my respect just for taking on the challenge.Once you got going you played pretty good.
Give the kid a break.....He won 6 games against the best player EVER.
Pretty dam good as far as I'm concerned.

DeadPoked
05-01-2008, 09:35 AM
Maybe I missed something because I've been busy and missed a lot of posts on that subject, but I didn't think anybody was really bashing Austin. True, some people were brutally frank, but I don't really see anything wrong with that. When you throw yourself in the public eye, that comes with the territory.
I admire the kid's balls, but personally I think the viewing public would have been better served by a less lopsided match-up.

I'm not going to quote people but there were post made that were out of line, imo.

Marlon Manalo beat Rodney Morris 15-10, Busta beat Deuel 15-8 and Efren Reyes, arguably the best 8 ball player ever, beat Austin Murphy 15-6. The only way I think the American viewing public would be better served is for the IPT to quit putting Americans up against Filipinos! :D

Where was the outcry when Rodney and Corey gave less than stellar performances?

bigskyjake
05-01-2008, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the error checking.. I meant to type '9 years old'
I went back and edited it ...

Thanks again


I was thinking so, I read 19 years old and Freshman in the same paragraph and I was like " Damn man, I know Austin has to be smarter than that" :D :D

Terry Ardeno
05-01-2008, 09:43 AM
I think it's really telling of a persons character to come on here and bash a young kid, who frequents this forums and a fellow AZ'er if you will, that was only trying to fullfill a dream of playing against the greatest player ever.

I think it took a lot of bravery for the kid to put himself in that position to play against the best player in the world and to be such a huge underdog in front of so many people. The only thing I've ever heard anyone bash the kid on is his maturity level and I think this match was a big stepping stone in gaining maturity on the table. I did not see the very end of the match but I did see most of it and the interviews and I thought Austin handled himself very well.

After Austin was able to get his nerves in check he started playing some very good pool. I believe he ran the table off Efrens dry break and then followed that up with the first break and run of the match. I remember seeing Efrens face when Austin started to really play, you could tell that he knew he had to pull back the reins on the kid and it was time to get serious.

I feel that it was a treat to be able to watch a match between the greatest player ever who is nearing the end of competitive pool career and a future star who is just coming into his own.

Maybe your best post ever...Very well said.

(To quote Easy-E....) "Word"

Tom M
05-01-2008, 10:37 AM
Here's how I see it....

EVERY SINGLE PERSON I've EVEEEEEEEEER seen post on here has dogged their GUTS out in front of GROUPS of people. I

Struth! Heck, I often dog my guts out in front of a group of two - Me and an opponent! :eek:

MOJOE
05-01-2008, 10:49 AM
I have never like Pickles, especially bumpy ones!! ;)

philw
05-01-2008, 05:59 PM
I think it's really telling of a persons character to come on here and bash a young kid, who frequents this forums and a fellow AZ'er if you will, that was only trying to fullfill a dream of playing against the greatest player ever.

I think it took a lot of bravery for the kid to put himself in that position to play against the best player in the world and to be such a huge underdog in front of so many people. The only thing I've ever heard anyone bash the kid on is his maturity level and I think this match was a big stepping stone in gaining maturity on the table. I did not see the very end of the match but I did see most of it and the interviews and I thought Austin handled himself very well.

After Austin was able to get his nerves in check he started playing some very good pool. I believe he ran the table off Efrens dry break and then followed that up with the first break and run of the match. I remember seeing Efrens face when Austin started to really play, you could tell that he knew he had to pull back the reins on the kid and it was time to get serious.

I feel that it was a treat to be able to watch a match between the greatest player ever who is nearing the end of competitive pool career and a future star who is just coming into his own.
Good post! If I recall correctly a young Michael Jordan was regarded as an average basketball player and faced some rejection and well the rest is history. I was impressed by this young man (Austin) coming onto AZ and campaigning for our votes I don't know that I could have done that. He was beat by a legend (when people talk about the pool gods isn't Efren who they're referring to?) Austin has his whole life ahead of him and it looks like a bright future anyway you look at it. Austin, you get props from me young man. Good luck to you. Philw

beetle
05-01-2008, 06:26 PM
I'm not going to quote people but there were post made that were out of line, imo.

Marlon Manalo beat Rodney Morris 15-10, Busta beat Deuel 15-8 and Efren Reyes, arguably the best 8 ball player ever, beat Austin Murphy 15-6. The only way I think the American viewing public would be better served is for the IPT to quit putting Americans up against Filipinos! :D

Where was the outcry when Rodney and Corey gave less than stellar performances?

Good points!