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clint3612
05-01-2008, 09:24 PM
I have an idea. How about David Matlock in a IPT 8-ball match? If my remember serves me correctly, David was the highest or if not one of the highest American finishers before the IPT originally became insolvent. I'll tell you, the way efren reyes was breaking; dave would have gave him a tremendous match, if not beat him. For some of the misinformed, David can play great on a 9 fool. He's not only the "bar table" specialist that he is known for. I'll tell you gentleman, David may have the best kicking game next to Efren in the world. He is truly uncanny. He plays close to world class 3 cushion. It's actually his favorite game ( he told me it's the purest form of billiard games out there) In a 8-ball game we would see some spectacular moves, safes, and kicks from these two guys. I would like to see them battle it out. David, when motivated, is totally dangerous. When i watched him play at a camel tour some years ago, every time david was playing, efren would sweat david. I didn't see efren watch anybody as close. Another thing, when bustamante beat david out of the tournament (busta won the tournment BTW) he really celebrated and talked to david at length after the match. That was the only time busta talked to his opponnets after the match. The pinoy's have tremendous respect for david. He has put in his time. Give him the time to prepare and and get motivated, he would give efren a hell of a time. I promise you he is a gamer, he's not going to "dog" it. Or hell put him up against Keith on the 7 footer and settle who's the best on the bar table.

roosterman
05-02-2008, 04:00 PM
I agree Matlock is the best player in the world,why everybody over looks this guy is beyond me.Plus he is getting a little long in the tooth,I would just like for everybody to see him play while he is still playing good.

gopi-1
05-02-2008, 04:26 PM
I was there and I ask Efren if he was intentionally breaking it that way on purpose
because there will be a cluster or two that will give Austin some problems before he
can get out, or is he just being nice to Austin? Efren grinned impishly and said to me,
"Check my break in the last game". That's were he had his only B&R of the match...

oneballeddie
05-02-2008, 04:49 PM
I agree Matlock is the best player in the world,why everybody over looks this guy is beyond me.Plus he is getting a little long in the tooth,I would just like for everybody to see him play while he is still playing good.

My guess is Efren is older than Matlock

AZE
05-02-2008, 06:36 PM
Matlock:
[x] great player
[ ] the best player in the world, or even close to.

clint3612
05-03-2008, 12:15 AM
Matlock:
[x] great player
[ ] the best player in the world, or even close to.
Besides the pinoy's and the folks from taiwan. He plays just as good as any american player. How many times have you heard anybody beating david??? He only beat buddy hall every time they played! beat earl stickland, keith mccready, jose parica, david howard, he woofed mike sigel for years when he was in ponca city, ok.. I know I know if it's not efren efren than most of you guys wouldn't know a good player unless they fell on you. I assure you if you gave him some time and let him prepare, he could beat alot of these "champions" on the bar table and the big track. David was open to the world for a long long time. He was making all of these champions play $10,000 sets 15-20 years ago. Alot of these guys are having hard times putting up $5,000 and it's 2008. I'm assuming you never ever seen david play. It wasn't 6 weeks ago and SVB said he could watch David play all day and every day. I'm telling you he is an exceptional player, he just hates tournaments and i don't blame him.

JAM
05-03-2008, 01:12 AM
Besides the pinoy's and the folks from taiwan. He plays just as good as any american player. How many times have you heard anybody beating david??? He only beat buddy hall every time they played! beat earl stickland, keith mccready...

I agree that Dave Matlock is a great player. However, Keith has defeated David Matlock more times than Matlock has defeated Keith. I know this for a fact.

However, it is important to remember that Dave Matlock grew up in a different era than Keith did in American pool. When Keith was in his prime, Dave's game had not blossomed fully yet.

I cannot stand it when people compare pool players like this and they do not have the facts. It is like saying Scott Frost defeats Ronnie Allen. Well, today, maybe Scott would barbecue Ronnie, but in Ronnie's heyday, Scott Frost would need a spot for sure!

Dave Matlock is a phenomenal player. In fact, I suggested his name recently to the IPT for an upcoming match, along with James Walden. Keith was pissed off that I did not suggest Keith's name, but I have my reasons.

JAM

EDIT: This was my 9,000th post on AzBilliards! LOL!

ironman
05-03-2008, 06:09 AM
I have an idea. How about David Matlock in a IPT 8-ball match? If my remember serves me correctly, David was the highest or if not one of the highest American finishers before the IPT originally became insolvent. I'll tell you, the way efren reyes was breaking; dave would have gave him a tremendous match, if not beat him. For some of the misinformed, David can play great on a 9 fool. He's not only the "bar table" specialist that he is known for. I'll tell you gentleman, David may have the best kicking game next to Efren in the world. He is truly uncanny. He plays close to world class 3 cushion. It's actually his favorite game ( he told me it's the purest form of billiard games out there) In a 8-ball game we would see some spectacular moves, safes, and kicks from these two guys. I would like to see them battle it out. David, when motivated, is totally dangerous. When i watched him play at a camel tour some years ago, every time david was playing, efren would sweat david. I didn't see efren watch anybody as close. Another thing, when bustamante beat david out of the tournament (busta won the tournment BTW) he really celebrated and talked to david at length after the match. That was the only time busta talked to his opponnets after the match. The pinoy's have tremendous respect for david. He has put in his time. Give him the time to prepare and and get motivated, he would give efren a hell of a time. I promise you he is a gamer, he's not going to "dog" it. Or hell put him up against Keith on the 7 footer and settle who's the best on the bar table.

David was fired up and playing real well during the IPT fiasco. The best he had played in years.

David is and always has been one of my favorites. I don't know if he is the best in the world at any game, but, he is one of the most versatile players in the game today and that has been going on for many many years. He plays well on the 7ftrs, 8 ftrs, 9 ftrs, snooker table, and the billiard table.

Plusr, when he gets his elbow bent just right, he can party with the best of them.

memikey
05-04-2008, 01:16 AM
I have an idea. How about David Matlock in a IPT 8-ball match? If my remember serves me correctly, David was the highest or if not one of the highest American finishers before the IPT originally became insolvent........

Your memory doesn't serve you completely correctly.

Strictly speaking Matlock wasn't even "on the IPT" in the sense that he was not an IPT Tour Card Holder. He did make it into The IPT North American Open by winning a qualifying event.

His prize money won ($42,920/-) placed him 23rd in the overall money list at the time of IPT collapse. This would have placed him 5th out of the USA nationality players (behind Morris,Duel,Nevel and Owen and fractionally ahead of Williams). It is a good finish relative to the others considering that Morris, Duel, Owen,Williams out of the above plus many other USA nationality players were Tour Card Holders and had more opportunity to gather prize money. Nevel was like Matlock, a qualifier.

That being understood, to be objective about it his 5th placing out of USA players should also be viewed in the perspective of the reality that USA nationality players taken as a whole, did not achieve particularly good results in the IPT events relative to some other participating nationalities on comparison of the numbers competing etc, especially considering the events were all held in USA.

Just some historical info relevant to your post, not passing any comment on the opinions you posted. Hope it helps.

smashmouth
05-04-2008, 09:39 AM
some tournaments right now are paying out ok, 9 ball worlds, 10 ball worlds, 8 ball worlds, and US open, all in the 40-100k range first place money

all these "legends" should take a shot or two

clint3612
05-04-2008, 09:57 AM
Your memory doesn't serve you completely correctly.

Strictly speaking Matlock wasn't even "on the IPT" in the sense that he was not an IPT Tour Card Holder. He did make it into The IPT North American Open by winning a qualifying event.

His prize money won ($42,920/-) placed him 23rd in the overall money list at the time of IPT collapse. This would have placed him 5th out of the USA nationality players (behind Morris,Duel,Nevel and Owen and fractionally ahead of Williams). It is a good finish relative to the others considering that Morris, Duel, Owen,Williams out of the above plus many other USA nationality players were Tour Card Holders and had more opportunity to gather prize money. Nevel was like Matlock, a qualifier.

That being understood, to be objective about it his 5th placing out of USA players should also be viewed in the perspective of the reality that USA nationality players taken as a whole, did not achieve particularly good results in the IPT events relative to some other participating nationalities on comparison of the numbers competing etc, especially considering the events were all held in USA.

Just some historical info relevant to your post, not passing any comment on the opinions you posted. Hope it helps.
I only remember him playing in one big event and he placed really high among the other americans. I think i will google this and try to straighten this out.

JAM
05-04-2008, 10:08 AM
I only remember him playing in one big event and he placed really high among the other americans. I think i will google this and try to straighten this out.

July at IPT event at Venetian in Las Vegas, 2006, Matlock cashed in for 30 large. I remember it because I was there! :p

Here's a shot I took of Dave and his finance who is a news reporter in the area where Dave lives. They were building a house together, and that 30 large I am sure came in handy.

JAM

Southpaw
05-04-2008, 10:16 AM
No doubt that David is a great player. I think he is capable of beating anyone. It would be nice to see him on one of the TAR challenge matches. JMO.

Southpaw

StevenPWaldon
05-04-2008, 10:23 AM
You sound like a groupie. It's kind of funny.

I've got a one-pocket match with David vs Efren (more like David vs. Goliath) from a few years ago at the DCC. David does some dogging in the match. Efren never looked worried. I think you need to remove the pedestal.

...I promise you he is a gamer, he's not going to "dog" it. Or hell put him up against Keith on the 7 footer and settle who's the best on the bar table.

Snapshot9
05-04-2008, 10:29 AM
David would be an excellent choice for an IPT challenge match (Walden would be too).

David was in his prime, late 20's, early 30's, and wasn't afraid of anyone.
It was a well known fact in his heyday that he had 3 Oklahoma backers (oil and cattle) that would back him up to $500,000.

David is 47,48 today, 5 or 6 years younger than Efren. David told me hisself that he had run 28 straight racks of 9 ball on a bar table, that was his best.

I, personally, watched him run 9 9 ball (might have been 10 ball) in a 7 man ring game on a Brunswick 9' table at Rumors here in Wichita at $10 per man.

I also beat David one time when he failed to show up for our Sunday match at Rumors old big tournaments they used to have.... LOL (I ended up getting 5th-6th).

I was also privy to having watched David his first time in Wichita (before he ever went to Oklahoma) matching up when he played Jr. Brown 7 ahead for $700. Jr. got 1 shot the whole set, and David made the best 1/2" jump shot I have ever seen with a full cue. They played at the old Mr. Lucky's, and I was the only person allowed to watch them gamble.

David is a battle worn veteran on the table, always dangerous, and like they say, he has probably forgotten more than most people know.

David is originally from western Missouri, a lot of people don't know that.

JAM
05-04-2008, 11:53 AM
Here's one of my favorite pictures of Keith and Dave, two bar box specialists, who happen to be good friends and have a great deal of respect for each other! :)

JAM

Madcity
05-04-2008, 12:22 PM
You sound like a groupie. It's kind of funny.

I've got a one-pocket match with David vs Efren (more like David vs. Goliath) from a few years ago at the DCC. David does some dogging in the match. Efren never looked worried. I think you need to remove the pedestal.

Not a groupie in any sense of the word, but I have to say Steve Waldon you are a complete IDIOT.

9ball
05-04-2008, 12:44 PM
All I have to say is David is a great player, And a great person and it is an honor to have him living here in Kansas city, with us. I think we that know David Matlock should do what we can to get his name on the IPT matches.

( Watching David Matlock play pool is like watching a great painter paint a masterpiece! ) H.P.

memikey
05-04-2008, 12:56 PM
I only remember him playing in one big event and he placed really high among the other americans. I think i will google this and try to straighten this out.

Google away.....but I've already told you where he ranked, how he got there and what his position was relative to the other Americans. As it happens I've got print outs of lots of the IPT results cos am too lazy to tidy my files but if you visit the IPT site you can still find most of the money list and ranking records etc, just as I described in my post, are still there for anyone to see..........you don't seriously think I might have just made them up for fun do you?:rolleyes:

Not intending to in any way get involved in the ability opinion part because I'm not in a position to judge. Simply thought I would assist the starting point of your discussion by giving the exact facts about the card holder/money list/ranking etc. The facts aren't that far adrift from how you remember them anyway so I wouldn't worry too much about it whatever, the sun will still rise tomorrow:)

feldz23
05-04-2008, 01:23 PM
Dave is one of the nicest people I have ever met that play pool. He helped out by signing balls, and a get well card for the Bugs Rucker benefit last year. At the Shooters tournament in Olathe.

Dave could not read the get well card without his glasses, but plays pool without them :D

Fragged
05-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Not a groupie in any sense of the word, but I have to say Steve Waldon you are a complete IDIOT.


Is that an Ad Hominem attack? WTF is that anyway?

Ken_4fun
05-04-2008, 01:46 PM
I moved to Springfiled, Missouri years ago to work for General Electric years ago.

The city had many many good players and some great ones too. I watched "Little Danny" Harriman and Darrin Everett play often. I credit these two players as inspiration for me to play. They were awesome players. (Snooker John, Andy Gilbert, Jamie something,)

But when David Matlock came to town to play on barboxes, it wasnt even close. The entire city was in awe, including me. The most amazing barbox player I have EVER seen. Am I a groupie? Maybe.

JAM - Take no offense. Best pool player I have ever seen, Efren, without a doubt. Best barbox player I have seen, Matlock (I have never seen Keith play on a barbox). My favorite player to watch, Keith, without out a doubt the most heart and aggressive shooter ever.

Imagine if you will Danny Harriman playing in a small tourneyment and he is automatically playing for 2nd or 3rd. How strong is that?

Yes it was years ago, maybe 15 years or so, but it was glorious pool.

I really miss it.

Ken

JAM
05-04-2008, 01:59 PM
JAM - Take no offense. Best pool player I have ever seen, Efren, without a doubt. Best barbox player I have seen, Matlock (I have never seen Keith play on a barbox). My favorite player to watch, Keith, without out a doubt the most heart and aggressive shooter ever.



Of course, no offense taken! :)

I have found that people will always think those who they have seen in person, many times who are living in the same region of the country, will think the local champions are the best on the face of the earth.

If you were to go to California and ask those who were living in California when Keith was playing on the bar box, they would tell you that Keith was the better player, over Matlock.

Personally, I hate these "who's the best" threads because I believe it is not possible to compare players from different eras. The rules, games, and equipment differ. Of course, this has been bantered back and forth on this forum ever since I joined, and I am sure it will continue.

Who's the best? I think it depends on how old you are, where you live, and how many champions you have seen up front and close.

Often, those who are from a specific region of the country will claim their regional player is the best. As one example, if you have seen David Matlock play 100 times and witnessed Keith McCready play once or twice, therein likes the rub.

They are both great champions.

JAM

!Smorgass Bored
05-04-2008, 02:05 PM
David would be an excellent choice for an IPT challenge match (Walden would be too).

I was also privy to having watched David his first time in Wichita (before he ever went to Oklahoma) matching up when he played Jr. Brown 7 ahead for $700. Jr. got 1 shot the whole set......



Is/was Jr. Brown also named Cliff Brown and spent some time in New Orleans ?
I played/gambled with Cliff Brown a number of times.

Doug
( I never got the cheese, no matter what spot he gave me. dammit ! grrrrrr )

JAM
05-04-2008, 02:06 PM
I have suggested to the IPT that Matlock and Walden would be EXCELLENT choices for an upcoming match-up. :)

JAM

Madcity
05-04-2008, 02:36 PM
Is that an Ad Hominem attack? WTF is that anyway?

Fragged if you do not understand it, it applies to you also.

JAM
05-04-2008, 02:47 PM
This 95-year-old lady took her husband to the doctor, and she said, "He just won't do anything anymore, Doc. He's in pretty bad shape. He's slowing up an awful lot."

The doctor says, "Well, we'll have to get a urine sample and a bowel sample and a semen sample." Her husband, an old man who was a little hard of hearing, said to his wife, "What did he say?"

So his wife told him, "He needs a pair of your shorts." :eek:

Just changing the climate of the thread! :D

JAM

!Smorgass Bored
05-04-2008, 02:59 PM
This 95-year-old lady took her husband to the doctor, and she said, "He just won't do anything anymore, Doc. He's in pretty bad shape. He's slowing up an awful lot."

The doctor says, "Well, we'll have to get a urine sample and a bowel sample and a semen sample." Her husband, an old man who was a little hard of hearing, said to his wife, "What did he say?"

So his wife told him, "He needs a pair of your shorts." :eek:

Just changing the climate of the thread! :D

JAM



Yeah, but did you have to change it while I was eating a big bowel of New England Clam Chowder ?

Doug
( what typo ) :)



Edited: to change chowders.


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clint3612
05-04-2008, 04:02 PM
You sound like a groupie. It's kind of funny.

I've got a one-pocket match with David vs Efren (more like David vs. Goliath) from a few years ago at the DCC. David does some dogging in the match. Efren never looked worried. I think you need to remove the pedestal.
Remove from the pedestal??? Again, were talking about a short race in a tournament format. yes, efren is the favorite when playing 1 hole. However, again, how many people went to play david and came out winner? How many can you name? Who's ya'll's best player there? Frankie Hernandez? Mike Zuglan? Ginky? I would put matlock in the box with any of those guys.. How about a two set session bar table & big track, with any of those gentleman mentioned. If you want to throw in the Parks fellow, he can get played on the bar table no questions asked. Just bet it up.

clint3612
05-04-2008, 04:08 PM
Of course, no offense taken! :)

I have found that people will always think those who they have seen in person, many times who are living in the same region of the country, will think the local champions are the best on the face of the earth.

If you were to go to California and ask those who were living in California when Keith was playing on the bar box, they would tell you that Keith was the better player, over Matlock.

Personally, I hate these "who's the best" threads because I believe it is not possible to compare players from different eras. The rules, games, and equipment differ. Of course, this has been bantered back and forth on this forum ever since I joined, and I am sure it will continue.

Who's the best? I think it depends on how old you are, where you live, and how many champions you have seen up front and close.

Often, those who are from a specific region of the country will claim their regional player is the best. As one example, if you have seen David Matlock play 100 times and witnessed Keith McCready play once or twice, therein likes the rub.

They are both great champions.

JAM
Jam, i heard from a good good source and david and keith played only one time back in 79 and David beat keith 3 sets & 8 ahead for about 10,000. Never played again. Just what i heard. I'm not counting any tournament style format.

JAM
05-04-2008, 04:18 PM
Jam, i heard from a good good source and david and keith played only one time back in 79 and David beat keith 3 sets & 8 ahead for about 10,000. Never played again. Just what i heard. I'm not counting any tournament style format.

Clint, I have it on good authority that Keith has beat Dave more times than Dave has beat Keith. Just what I heard.

How many times have you spoken to Keith McCready about Matlock and him matching up? Have you ever spoken to Matlock himself personally about it?

You must live in the Matlock Country. If you ever lived in California in the late '70s and early '80s and saw Keith McCready play -- a time when Matlock's game was not fully formed yet -- you may come away with a different opinon.

I have spoken to many people who have seen both of them play, to include McCready himself, and he tells me that he has defeated Matlock more times than Matlock has defeated him. AGAIN, I will repeat it once more. It just depends on where you live and who you have seen that will form your opinion, but if you have never seen Keith McCready in his prime, then you really have no clue. In fact, it would be impossible to make the comparison, IMHO.

JAM

P.S. Keith beat Matlock for 20 large one time. Tit for tat, and away we go.

!Smorgass Bored
05-04-2008, 05:10 PM
P.S. Keith beat Matlock for 20 large one time.

Tit for tat, and away we go.


You sound like Jackie Gleason when you say that.
Doug

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clint3612
05-04-2008, 05:35 PM
Clint, I have it on good authority that Keith has beat Dave more times than Dave has beat Keith. Just what I heard.

How many times have you spoken to Keith McCready about Matlock and him matching up? Have you ever spoken to Matlock himself personally about it?

You must live in the Matlock Country. If you ever lived in California in the late '70s and early '80s and saw Keith McCready play -- a time when Matlock's game was not fully formed yet -- you may come away with a different opinon.

I have spoken to many people who have seen both of them play, to include McCready himself, and he tells me that he has defeated Matlock more times than Matlock has defeated him. AGAIN, I will repeat it once more. It just depends on where you live and who you have seen that will form your opinion, but if you have never seen Keith McCready in his prime, then you really have no clue. In fact, it would be impossible to make the comparison, IMHO.

JAM

P.S. Keith beat Matlock for 20 large one time. Tit for tat, and away we go.
Jam, yes i have talked to david before. I have taken lessons from him and seen him a few times play. Someone's memory is foggy. David said that he only played keith once. It seems that keith says he played david multiple times. Who knows? Who can tell what happened some years ago. I agree they both play great. I used to watch keith play at the cue-topia back in 93 or 94. he could drink beer all day and still run out. I have to admit that keith knocked me out of some action one time in Las Vegas, i never forgave him. lol

JAM
05-04-2008, 05:47 PM
Jam, yes i have talked to david before. I have taken lessons from him and seen him a few times play. Someone's memory is foggy. David said that he only played keith once. It seems that keith says he played david multiple times. Who knows? Who can tell what happened some years ago. I agree they both play great. I used to watch keith play at the cue-topia back in 93 or 94. he could drink beer all day and still run out. I have to admit that keith knocked me out of some action one time in Las Vegas, i never forgave him. lol

I appreciate your kind response.

Keith is sitting right here next to me. I did ask him if he has played Dave Matlock more than once, and he said that he, in fact, has played Dave Matlock more than once.

I have known Keith for a long time, and he doesn't make up stuff. He would have no reason to lie. If he had only played Matlock once, he would have no problem saying he only played Matlock once. I tend to believe Keith right now, more so than you.

Matlock did beat Keith in Dallas at "Sonny's home" on a "trick box" for 25,000, not 10,000. Keith then respectfully requested to play Matlock again, off the "trick box," in another location. Then he beat Dave Matlock in Oklahoma City at a "neutral pool room." Keith did not like the "trick box" location at "Sonny's home." True Loves, Keith thinks the name of it was. Weldon Rogers and Will Willingham were staking Keith against Matlock, when Keith beat Matlock at True Loves.

Keith stated he also beat Matlock at the Maverick Club in Richmond, Kentucky, with "Dean" staking Keith, 10 dimes a set. Keith won two sets in about 2 hours.

I happen to like Dave very much. As you can see, your information is wrong. They have played more than once, non-tournament play.

Hope this helps clarify things for you.

JAM

JAM
05-04-2008, 05:55 PM
You sound like Jackie Gleason when you say that.
Doug

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We share the same birthday! :D

JAM

clint3612
05-04-2008, 06:08 PM
I appreciate your kind response.

Keith is sitting right here next to me. I did ask him if he has played Dave Matlock more than once, and he said that he, in fact, has played Dave Matlock more than once.

I have known Keith for a long time, and he doesn't make up stuff. He would have no reason to lie. If he had only played Matlock once, he would have no problem saying he only played Matlock once. I tend to believe Keith right now, more so than you.

Matlock did beat Keith in Dallas at "Sonny's home" on a "trick box" for 25,000, not 10,000. Keith then respectfully requested to play Matlock again, off the "trick box," in another location. Then he beat Dave Matlock in Oklahoma City at a "neutral pool room." Keith did not like the "trick box" location at "Sonny's home." True Loves, Keith thinks the name of it was. Weldon Rogers and Will Willingham were staking Keith against Matlock, when Keith beat Matlock at True Loves.

Keith stated he also beat Matlock at the Maverick Club in Richmond, Kentucky, with "Dean" staking Keith, 10 dimes a set. Keith won two sets in about 2 hours.

I happen to like Dave very much. As you can see, your information is wrong. They have played more than once, non-tournament play.

Hope this helps clarify things for you.

JAM
I don't want to sound like a butt. However, why don't we try to get keith and david to play on the TAR or something. Both players could use some exposure right now. Put a time table together and let them prepare for this the right way and let them battle it out. There wouldn't be any losers in the end. Both players need some limelight right now. The younger generation needs to see these guys before it's too late. I think it could get alot of buys on the internet and i'm sure there would be alot of dvd's purchased.

JAM
05-04-2008, 06:14 PM
I don't want to sound like a butt. However, why don't we try to get keith and david to play on the TAR or something. Both players could use some exposure right now. Put a time table together and let them prepare for this the right way and let them battle it out. There wouldn't be any losers in the end. Both players need some limelight right now. The younger generation needs to see these guys before it's too late. I think it could get alot of buys on the internet and i'm sure there would be alot of dvd's purchased.

This does sound like a great idea down the road. We were thinking the same thing with Keith and Scotty Townsend as well because they are two colorful old-school players, real road warriors.

Actually a round robin format on the bar box with Scotty Townsend, Keith McCready, and Dave Matlock would be a hell of a show, a genuine classic! :D

JAM

Ken_4fun
05-05-2008, 07:27 AM
I have suggested to the IPT that Matlock and Walden would be EXCELLENT choices for an upcoming match-up. :)

JAM


I would pay, (and not a little) to watch that.

I would also pay to see Keith and Matlock to play.

Wow those would be some awesome matches.

Even better I would pay for the DVD.

Ken

jwilliams
05-05-2008, 07:51 AM
This does sound like a great idea down the road. We were thinking the same thing with Keith and Scotty Townsend as well because they are two colorful old-school players, real road warriors.

Actually a round robin format on the bar box with Scotty Townsend, Keith McCready, and Dave Matlock would be a hell of a show, a genuine classic! :D

JAM
And if not the IPT how about TAR trying to put something together like this?! I'd gladly pay double what they've been charging to sweat this!

clint3612
05-06-2008, 03:40 PM
yeah, i think we need to get some of the "older" champions in some action these days. Matlock, keith, scotty, maybe even walden would be great additions to the TAR or IPT formats. I'm telling you if the money is right, and there is proper prep time and no nitting; you could see some great great play from David.