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Anyone Else Notice The Points On This Cue?
Can't say fer sure but I really ccan't help but wonder whether this cue was a "vintage" original Runde Schon. I know Bob was with Schon from its inception ('81) til mid-late '91 and was notorius for using spliced points on the prongs and veneers as contrasted with Evan Clarke's approach. Runde remained the same way with cues he made under his own name after he left Schon from what I've seen of the cues listed on the forum. The points on this cue look a lot more like an Evan Clarke produced Schon rather than a Runde made cue.
Can't say fer sure but I really ccan't help but wonder whether this cue was a "vintage" original Runde Schon. I know Bob was with Schon from its inception ('81) til mid-late '91 and was notorius for using spliced points on the prongs and veneers as contrasted with Evan Clarke's approach. Runde remained the same way with cues he made under his own name after he left Schon from what I've seen of the cues listed on the forum. The points on this cue look a lot more like an Evan Clarke produced Schon rather than a Runde made cue.
If a Runde Schon then someone stole it. I don't think that stitch rings are indicative of Runde Schons. When I ordered my first Schon I had a catalog where silver rings were optional for $25 each. Stitch rings were standard IIRC.
I bought mine in 1989 from Danny Barouty. And paid more than double what this one sold for. I wish I still had that cue.
I bought mine in 1989 from Danny Barouty. And paid more than double what this one sold for. I wish I still had that cue.
schon
I can say for a fact that not all of runde's cues post schon have spliced points. Last year i sold a 99 runde on here that was cnc "pocket pointed" meaning the veneers were sharp but the outside of the points were not.
I can say for a fact that not all of runde's cues post schon have spliced points. Last year i sold a 99 runde on here that was cnc "pocket pointed" meaning the veneers were sharp but the outside of the points were not.
Iam glad this came up, i have been waiting to INFORM people of there misconception on this subject!!!
you could still get spliced points up till recently and pantagraph points were done in the 80,s this cue per evan was a late 80s cue. but just because it has spliced points does NOT make it runde
and because it has pantagraph points does NOT make it new
Bob still makes pantagraph points and did back then
evan the same!!!
This is the biggest MISCONCEPTION IN PRODUCTION CUES ON THE PLANET!
what really bothers is that one man said this and it continues as fact, i see this in the forum lives all the time . the facts are out here and now. check with bob or evan if there is doubt! thank you and feel free to call i will express the storys i have heard from both of them that i compiled this factual info from. I can only go with what the makers have told me personally. bob personally told me this info back at derby city aboud 6 years ago and evan confirmed it just before i listed the cue!
thank you and God speed Bill
you could still get spliced points up till recently and pantagraph points were done in the 80,s this cue per evan was a late 80s cue. but just because it has spliced points does NOT make it runde
and because it has pantagraph points does NOT make it new
Bob still makes pantagraph points and did back then
evan the same!!!
This is the biggest MISCONCEPTION IN PRODUCTION CUES ON THE PLANET!
what really bothers is that one man said this and it continues as fact, i see this in the forum lives all the time . the facts are out here and now. check with bob or evan if there is doubt! thank you and feel free to call i will express the storys i have heard from both of them that i compiled this factual info from. I can only go with what the makers have told me personally. bob personally told me this info back at derby city aboud 6 years ago and evan confirmed it just before i listed the cue!
thank you and God speed Bill
i do know one thing... if you mention a schon to evan clark as being a "Runde Schon" , Evan goes absolutley nuts... he hates it when ppl refer to them like that.. i made that mistake once asking him a question about a schon i had years ago..
chris
Beautiful cue Bill. Runde or Clark, doesn't matter. I think it is just that the sharp pointed cues are more desirable. I had this same except the color was teal instead of red and sold it for 650 and it had an extra 314 shaft with it. Good playing cues. This is my second favorite design they did.
I know he hates it. But then there is that whole mythical story about Bob Runde wanting to keep the production to under 1000 cues a year and Terry Romine wanting to increase it dramatically which supposedly led to Bob's departure. That's the legend anyway. Maybe someone here can tell that story and separate fact from fiction.
All I know is that I have owned two Schon cues from the time Bob was running things and both of htem felt like PURE gold to me. I have owned Schons from well after Bob left and they never felt as good to me. And this was LONG before I ever knew who Bob Runde or Evan Clark or Terry Romine were. Still though Schons from the beginning through now are SOLID cues that play fantastic.
In general I don't like it when people define cues by "eras". I especially don't like it when people refer to SWs as Franklin-Era and say that they are better. I have hit with both and I can't tell a difference. Bot other people have other opinions. And of course in shops for many other things in life the products of that shop have a certain character given them by the people who work there at any given time.
So I understand using era referencing to define the character of a product and I also understand that it invites discussion and debate.
IMO the reason I would put a tag on an era of Schon cues is to me there is no comparison to the pre 92' Schons to the more recent ones. It's like night and day to me. Also I call mine a Runde Schon. Maybe I should stop lol? My .02
Well stated...
Runde
I would like to clear this up about Runde's and Schons. NO Bill, you CANNOT get a pantagraph pointed cue today and you haven't been able to for at least 6 years. Yes, the stitch and silver rings were optional when Bob owned Schon, so that tells you nothing about who might have built the cue. Up to 1991 when Bob sold the name Schon and the business, no one touched any of the cues that were built by Schon other than Bob. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Evan Clark's Schons and Runde Schons don't have as much in common as most people think. I get my information directly from Bob, I talk to him about once a week. So my Facts are fresh and not distorted by time or lapse of memory and is not hearsay.
I would like to clear this up about Runde's and Schons. NO Bill, you CANNOT get a pantagraph pointed cue today and you haven't been able to for at least 6 years. Yes, the stitch and silver rings were optional when Bob owned Schon, so that tells you nothing about who might have built the cue. Up to 1991 when Bob sold the name Schon and the business, no one touched any of the cues that were built by Schon other than Bob. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Evan Clark's Schons and Runde Schons don't have as much in common as most people think. I get my information directly from Bob, I talk to him about once a week. So my Facts are fresh and not distorted by time or lapse of memory and is not hearsay.
You are right about 5 years ago went Cnc so I should state rounded pointd
Sounds like you not only didnt get the cue, you got the shaft.