i saw your user name and i'm wondering if your from oklahoma. and if so, from where. i lived in the city for most of the seventies. i hung out at travis' at n may and 15th, but did most of my gambling at trueloves. i also played in a weekly 10 and 2, 3 and go back saturday golf game at travis' 50th and n may. i get back at least once every year to go to the trans siberian orchestra. and i take a harley trip west each summer and stop in edmond going and coming. after all these years, my two best friends are in edmond. by the way, my name is bill also. just wondering.