I really appreciate your comments as they make very good sense. Some of my problems are that he is an ex bass fisherman and still has more fishing poles than pool cues and what I am trying to get him is just a "i love you" gift as he already has 84 cues with three high dollar Schons with extra 314, 314/2, and Z2 shafts. I just want something nice in my price range. Any further suggestions ? I appreciate your time!