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ShortBusRuss 08-18-2019 04:08 PM

APA screwed our very own sleinen out of a national championship
 
For those who haven't heard..sleinen on here was on an APA team (against his better judgement), and made a run all the way to the finals in the APA national 8 ball championship, only to get disqualified by the APA, all prize monies revoked, and a two year ban.Plus, apparently his League Operator gets a $25,000 fine?

For those who do not know Sean, he is exceedingly honest person, and would never sandbag under any circumstances. (I believe he is the highest rated player on the team anyways.. I believe him when he says that his team simply rose to the challenge and showed a lot of heart.

The APA is such a complete and utter joke.

-Shortbusruss

cubswin 08-18-2019 04:25 PM

I can't believe how many people play apa, with the hope to go to vegas. Cheaper just to go on their own.

Apa makes a ton of profit off its players, and doesn't pay out very much at year end.

garczar 08-18-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cubswin (Post 6459885)
I can't believe how many people play apa, with the hope to go to vegas. Cheaper just to go on their own.

Apa makes a ton of profit off its players, and doesn't pay out very much at year end.

I'd rather have a root-canal with a butter-knife than play league pool again.

alphadog 08-18-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortBusRuss (Post 6459873)
For those who haven't heard..sleinen on here was on an APA team (against his better judgement), and made a run all the way to the finals in the APA national 8 ball championship, only to get disqualified by the APA, all prize monies revoked, and a two year ban.Plus, apparently his League Operator gets a $25,000 fine?

For those who do not know Sean, he is exceedingly honest person, and would never sandbag under any circumstances. (I believe he is the highest rated player on the team anyways.. I believe him when he says that his team simply rose to the challenge and showed a lot of heart.

The APA is such a complete and utter joke.

-Shortbusruss

More details are called for.

JazzyJeff87 08-18-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alphadog (Post 6459888)
More details are called for.

Yeah Im very interested here. What was his skill level? How long in the APA and how did they decide that hed somehow sandbagged?

I hate handicaps, I only lasted 2 sessions when I tried the APA. I get that theyre necessary for that league but they cause so many problems.

ShortBusRuss 08-18-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alphadog (Post 6459888)
More details are called for.

What more is there to say? They "played too good" by some arbitrary APA standards, and the APA powers-that-be booted them out of the tournament.

TX Poolnut 08-18-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by garczar (Post 6459887)
I'd rather have a root-canal with a butter-knife than play league pool again.

I'd rather be ate by a goat and shit off a cliff than play league pool again.

PoolBum 08-18-2019 04:51 PM

I'd rather have a goat perform a root-canal on me with a butter knife while being shit off a cliff than play league pool again.

Hits 'em Hard 08-18-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ShortBusRuss (Post 6459899)
What more is there to say? They "played too good" by some arbitrary APA standards, and the APA powers-that-be booted them out of the tournament.

You and I both know that isnt the truth. The truth is much more simple. Stop trying to create drama and read the rule of the organization your bashing. Or the courts will see your words as slander.

ribdoner 08-18-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hits 'em Hard (Post 6459932)
You and I both know that isnt the truth. The truth is much more simple. Stop trying to create drama and read the rule of the organization your bashing. Or the courts will see your words as slander.

What's "the rule of the organization" your referring to?

ShortBusRuss 08-18-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hits 'em Hard (Post 6459932)
You and I both know that isn’t the truth. The truth is much more simple. Stop trying to create drama and read the rule of the organization your bashing. Or the courts will see your words as slander.

Are you calling sleinen a liar? He's pretty much the intellectual I interact most with on social media, and he told me that's the deal. I trust him more than I trust some troll on AZBilliards. People like you are why he doesn't post here any more. And the APA happened to overlook another player on one of the top 4 teams who showed up for (and played on) the stream drunk off their gourd....

Stop being combative. The POINT is... This team got booted out of the tournament.. No recourse. No prize money for the place they had achieved. The APA apparently doesn't have any concept of "rising to the occasion", so, what? Is every match supposed to be 100% random? Then why are they f**king playing pool for a title, then? Why not just charge every team their entry fee and just play rock, paper, scissors for the title? Or maybe flip coins?

I guess it is completely out of the realm of possibility that the team might have earned their spot, and then put in a concerted practice regimen to actually make a good attempt at WINNING. Any non-pro/semipro player can move their skill level up 50 Fargo points or more with a good few weeks of practice.

SJpilot 08-18-2019 05:46 PM

If you know you're going to a big tournament in a month you're gonna put in a shit ton of table time right... gambling, drills, etc. Plus a tournament is a crazy different mindset than drunken Wednesday pool league. You're not hammered not just getting off work etc. I would assume a lot of people would look like they were playing over their head if you compared a tournament they were prepared for to their bar league play.

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Bob Jewett 08-18-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ribdoner (Post 6459935)
What's "the rule of the organization" you're referring to?

I'd like to know the rule as well. And whether the players know about it.

As for the goat/cliff/root canal thing, if anyone goes for that please, please get a video. You'll get a billion views. Oh, and make sure you have 593 independent witnesses sign the affidavit for Balls' sake.:wink:

pt109 08-18-2019 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hits 'em Hard (Post 6459932)
You and I both know that isnt the truth. The truth is much more simple. Stop trying to create drama and read the rule of the organization your bashing. Or the courts will see your words as slander.

I might be a little biased....I consider Sean an AZ friend...were in a small email group also.
....so Im gonna slander away....APA screwed Sean.

...and those law suits are a two-way street....can APA justify THEIR decision?

alphadog 08-18-2019 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Jewett (Post 6459947)
I'd like to know the rule as well. And whether the players know about it.

As for the goat/cliff/root canal thing, if anyone goes for that please, please get a video. You'll get a billion views. Oh, and make sure you have 593 independent witnesses sign the affidavit for Balls' sake.:wink:

I guess I shouldn't be drinking coffee at 8pm because Bob just caused me to spit it out all over my tablet:eek:


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