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Mike81 10-04-2019 07:51 PM

Maple butt
 
Could anyone give me an idea of what a complete maple butt would weigh ? 29Ē long, No weight added of course. And how would it play? Thanks, mike

JoeyInCali 10-04-2019 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike81 (Post 6490107)
Could anyone give me an idea of what a complete maple butt would weigh ? 29Ē long, No weight added of course. And how would it play? Thanks, mike

Around 13 oz.
Too light.
You will have to drop the elbow a lot to put some action on the cue ball.

Mike81 10-05-2019 05:12 AM

Thanks Joey

Kim Bye 10-05-2019 06:14 AM

Too light naturally, I have one in the making now. 30" BEM @ .650" purpleheart core.

Mike81 10-07-2019 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kim Bye (Post 6490301)
Too light naturally, I have one in the making now. 30" BEM @ .650" purpleheart core.

Best of both worlds with that combination I take it. How about some pics of that when itís finished? How would an all maple butt play if weight was added in the right spots to make it around 15ozs? Without the purpleheart core?

Mcues 10-07-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike81 (Post 6491822)
Best of both worlds with that combination I take it. How about some pics of that when itís finished? How would an all maple butt play if weight was added in the right spots to make it around 15ozs? Without the purpleheart core?

You need to add approximately two ounces. Stainless collar and 1 0z weight bolt would get you closer. if you can shoot with an 18 oz cue it just might work with a bit of tinkering :) that's selecting some dense maple, not lightweight Birdeyes


Mario

Almost forgot, how would it play? Like a Stainless collar Maple light cue :) that somebody put together to satisfy a customer's idea of greatness.

Kim Bye 10-08-2019 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike81 (Post 6491822)
Best of both worlds with that combination I take it. How about some pics of that when itís finished? How would an all maple butt play if weight was added in the right spots to make it around 15ozs? Without the purpleheart core?

Thanks. Sure I can send you some pictures when it's ready.

Snooker Theory 10-22-2019 08:31 PM

I hope you guys don't mind a question a bit off topic from Mikes question, kinda still in the same ballpark. Any idea what a 29" solid ebony butt (non cored) would roughly weigh in at? Thanks.

Ssonerai 10-22-2019 10:27 PM

Based on specific gravity, published values:
Gabon ebony specific gravity at 6% is about .86
Hard maple s.g. @ 6% is about .62

so GE is about 1.42 x as dense as HM at the same MC.

Based on published "dry weights"; 44 for HM & 60 for GE, the ratio would be 1.36

Relating to cues, Joey always seems to know what he's talking about, so if a solid hard maple butt @ 29" long weighs 13 oz; then the exact same dimension butt in GB ought to weigh 17.7 to 18.4 oz.

I've never made a solid ebony butt, but that seems about right, considering other wood that is close. I've made a few 30" butts and it can be difficult to get the weight out of them with dense lumber to start.

Diameter matters - whether you like the ever-more slender modern shapes in the 1.250 range, or prefer something around 1-5/16" or even thicker.

That said, I'm primarily a hobbyist maker & not very active at that..

smt

Snooker Theory 10-27-2019 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ssonerai (Post 6502310)
Based on specific gravity, published values:
Gabon ebony specific gravity at 6% is about .86
Hard maple s.g. @ 6% is about .62

so GE is about 1.42 x as dense as HM at the same MC.

Based on published "dry weights"; 44 for HM & 60 for GE, the ratio would be 1.36

Relating to cues, Joey always seems to know what he's talking about, so if a solid hard maple butt @ 29" long weighs 13 oz; then the exact same dimension butt in GB ought to weigh 17.7 to 18.4 oz.

I've never made a solid ebony butt, but that seems about right, considering other wood that is close. I've made a few 30" butts and it can be difficult to get the weight out of them with dense lumber to start.

Diameter matters - whether you like the ever-more slender modern shapes in the 1.250 range, or prefer something around 1-5/16" or even thicker.

That said, I'm primarily a hobbyist maker & not very active at that..

smt

Thank you
:)


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