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gbru 12-20-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBpool (Post 2771622)
I'm going to start my own personal health commercials...

"Put down the fork and get your ass on a treadmill."
:thumbup:


Or out in the garden turning the compost pile.....:wink:

I hate to exercise....It feels like I'm spinning my wheels and wasting time.

It's like sitting at a red light.

"Drinking blue, yellow, green soda....soda pop....! :D

I think that's one of the real cluprits....especially for kids....:angry:

BryanBpool 12-20-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gbru (Post 2771627)
Or out in the garden turning the compost pile.....:wink:

I hate to exercise....It feels like I'm spinning my wheels and wasting time.

It's like sitting at a red light.

"Drinking blue, yellow, green soda....soda pop....! :D

I think that's one of the real cluprits....especially for kids....:angry:

People have to engage in some kind of physical activity. Thats the trick folks. =]

I started going to a gym about 5 years ago, and I couldn't imagine not doing it. I love it.

I sit behind a computer all day at work, and without that 7-8 hours of strenuous exercise a week, Id pprobably be as big as a house. =]

Additionally, by staying active, I can enjoy a delicious Soda now and again, and not worry about it.


Dont buy your kids a Playstation.... Give them a ball, a bike, and tell them to GTF outside and play.

justnum 12-20-2010 10:34 AM

If you sift the flour before baking a yeast bread the rise is so much better. I've stopped using prepacked foods, I love fresh bread.

jimmyg 12-20-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBpool (Post 2771622)
I'm just of the ilk that doesnt think its necessary for the government to give me eating advice.

A good portion of Americans are gluttonous slobs with or without this ad.

The imagery wasn't really what bothered me, it was the complete fabricated lie that "drinking a soda a day will make you gain 10lbs in a year." Its like Reefer Madness, but directed at Soda. People are smart enough to know when they are being lied to. Lie to them enough, and they just stop listening. Look at the Drug War.

Im all for promoting good health, but demonizing companies like Coca Cola (with my money none the less) isn't going to do it.

I'm going to start my own personal health commercials...

"Put down the fork and get your ass on a treadmill."

:thumbup:

Time to enjoy my delicious Sushi and a Water for lunch. =]

I suppose that if people were generally smart enough to know when they're being lied to, companies like Coca cola and McDonalds wouldn't be spending tens of millions a year on Madison Avenue advertising in order to convince the consumer that "things go better with Coke", or "you deserve a break today". People, generally, are morons.

Nutrition isn't even taught in schools any longer, in fact, Taco Bell and Coke have bought their way into, and are served in lunchrooms. The corporations, through their financial control of the media, advertising, and school boards, control our children's minds, and diets, from the moment they start watching TV, even more so when they enter kindergarten, and likely until their dying day. If anyone doubts this unfortunate, but obvious, truth, all they need do is take a good look around at the obese, Hagen Das sucking, smoking, heart diseased, brain dead masses, walking the malls, or waiting on line at McDonalds.

That particular ad may be targeting teenagers, or others that need a visual. I believe that the anti smoking advertising campaigns are having a major impact discouraging smoking.

It may sound very independent and intelligent to say that we don't need the government to tell us what to eat. But that's totally unrealistic when we consider the advertising power we're up against. We are absolutely losing this battle, and we can use all the help we can get. IMO

J

bsmutz 12-20-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by memikey (Post 2771510)
Understood.....what's still not understood is how "massively over-producing corn" (if over-producing means producing more than is necessary to meet all the different market/industry demands) can result in "more dollars"....surely massively over- producing any harvested crop means" less dollars"?..... wouldn't more dollars actually be made if they didn't massively over-produce?

Am I being thick and missing something obvious? It wouldn't be the first time that's for sure :)

I'm kind of in the same boat you are with the not completely understanding the whole thing part. I know that a portion of America's corn crop gets plowed under. I know that our government subsidizes the corn crop so that if it gets too cheap, they make up the difference to the growers to keep them in business. As I understand the problem alluded to here with the over producing, it is Monsanto that is pushing their corn and basically forcing everyone to grow their corn by suing anyone who has even one plant in their field of Monsanto's genetically modified corn without paying Monsanto, whether by design or accident. They are also selling this GMO corn to other countries, like Mexico, cheaper than they can buy other types of corn. Mexico happens to have the most diverse corn crop with many different varieties, but they are being overrun by Monsanto's corn. The people who make products from the corn can buy America's Monsanto corn much cheaper than their locally grown corn. By flooding the market with cheap corn, local growers all over the world are potentially being undercut and starved out. Of course, this is a generalization and not a concise description of each market, buffeted by my ignorance on the subject.

bud green 12-20-2010 07:56 PM

Sulfur dioxide is in probably 99% of the wine being made. Most of the mentioned side effects are from real high doses or contact with it in its gaseous form.

Some wines actually do have pretty high levels, mostly cheap wines and especially blends like low end sangrias,etc...

Most wineries keep their sulfur levels low and I refuse to believe its all that bad for you. I have asthma and I've stuck my head in countless barrels of the powdered version without having a major reaction.

Now when I put my head in a Gallo tank used for brandy and it had just been dosed with liquid SO2, my lungs did shrink to half size. We're talking 100 times the level in ppm that is actually in wine, though.

Anyone who comes out with a better wine preservative than sulfur dioxide will be rich quick. Large wineries go through literally tons of the stuff in very short time.

Sheldon 12-21-2010 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmyg (Post 2771860)
Nutrition isn't even taught in schools any longer, in fact, Taco Bell and Coke have bought their way into, and are served in lunchrooms.

Very few people going to school to become Doctors even receive nutrition training. We're conditioned to eat absolute garbage, and to shovel in larger and larger quantities of it. Then you're supposed to take drugs when your body starts breaking down because it can't process all that stuff, or heal itself.
It's a vicious downwards cycle that most people refuse to even see, let alone break....

berlowmj2 12-21-2010 01:34 AM

socialist foodies & Marxist health food nuts
 
Agribusiness should be able to control government regulatory agencies, school lunch programs, design nutrition curricula...

Its the "American way."

Questioning high fructose corn syrup, sugar cereals, MSG, antibiotics in chicken, growth hormones in beef, food dyes... is a plot revealed in the Protocols of Zion & implemented by the Rothschilds.

The John Birch Society only began questioning fluoridation when Soros began bombarding them with chicken soup lasers.

Organic farming is practiced in Castro's Cuba.

Composting was introduced by Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto.

I learned all this over a Whopper dinner with Glen Beck.

gbru 12-21-2010 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by berlowmj2 (Post 2772957)
Agribusiness should be able to control government regulatory agencies, school lunch programs, design nutrition curricula...

Its the "American way."

Questioning high fructose corn syrup, sugar cereals, MSG, antibiotics in chicken, growth hormones in beef, food dyes... is a plot revealed in the Protocols of Zion & implemented by the Rothschilds.

The John Birch Society only began questioning fluoridation when Soros began bombarding them with chicken soup lasers.

Organic farming is practiced in Castro's Cuba.

Composting was introduced by Karl Marx in the Communist Manifesto.

I learned all this over a Whopper dinner with Glen Beck.



Hey my friend.....There's a great documentary showing on Link TV this week entitled...."The Power Of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil...."

It focuses on the success of the Organic Farming endeavors started in the 90's there and shows the result of the now more than 90% of Cuba's food coming from these small farms.

The world could learn a lot from the Cubans....:groucho:

What say C/O....Do you get Link TV....?
Check it out son....;)

jimmyg 12-21-2010 06:14 AM

Even our water's poison
 
Probable Carcinogen Hexavalent Chromium Found in Drinking Water of 31 U.S. Cities

December 20th, 2010
Add it to the list:

Can You Do This With Your Tap Water? http://cryptogon.com/?p=13143

Hundreds of Millions of Pounds of Pharmaceuticals LEGALLY Released Into Waterways That Provide Drinking Water: http://cryptogon.com/?p=8099

Illegal Concentrations of Arsenic, Radioactive Substances like Uranium, Dangerous Bacteria Often Found in Sewage: http://cryptogon.com/?p=12523

Via: Washington Post:

An environmental group that analyzed the drinking water in 35 cities across the United States, including Bethesda and Washington, found that most contained hexavalent chromium, a probable carcinogen that was made famous by the film “Erin Brockovich.”

The study, which will be released Monday by the Environmental Working Group, is the first nationwide analysis of hexavalent chromium in drinking water to be made public.

It comes as the Environmental Protection Agency is considering whether to set a limit for hexavalent chromium in tap water. The agency is reviewing the chemical after the National Toxicology Program, part of the National Institutes of Health, deemed it a “probable carcinogen” in 2008.

The federal government restricts the amount of “total chromium” in drinking water and requires water utilities to test for it, but that includes both trivalent chromium, a mineral that humans need to metabolize glucose, and hexavalent chromium, the metal that has caused cancer in laboratory animals.

JAM 12-21-2010 06:28 AM

My brother finished chemo therapy earlier this year, and since that time, he got really sick. He developed a horrible skin rash which required me taking him to the emergency room. They hospitalized him for a few days. It was all a side effect from that chemo.

Now he is over it and doing well, but he's done a complete flip-flop on what he eats. He is now a strict vegetarian and does not eat any food out of a can or a box.

He is living in an over-50 community in Cathedral City, California, and loves the environment there for some reason. He found his local organic food stores, and he eats only steel-something oatmeal in the morning with organic fruit and nuts. He uses only "green" cleaning materials for his kitchen and bathroom. He makes his own soap. He even makes his own chocolate and swears it is better tasting than anything in the store.

I guess he thinks this is healthy, not eating fish, meat, eggs, cheese, milk, peanut butter, orange juice, et cetera. I told him I wanted to send him a cheesecake for Christmas, but he said he wouldn't eat it. He's so thin now, about 125 pounds.

Maybe he is on to something with this organic lifestyle. Even his containers for food storage must be glass. He doesn't like anything plastic.

You have to do things in moderation. I think he's going to the extreme but maybe not, after reading this thread. He warned me about the sugar substitutes in my Crystal Lite drink.

Today I don't drink or drug or smoke, and I eat red meat sparingly. I don't think I could live my life eating fruit and berries all the time, like my brother. The older you get, the more life becomes one big deprivation.

berlowmj2 12-21-2010 07:37 AM

Erin Brokovich whistle blowing Bildeberg/Marxist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmyg (Post 2773067)
Probable Carcinogen Hexavalent Chromium Found in Drinking Water of 31 U.S. Cities

December 20th, 2010
Add it to the list:

Can You Do This With Your Tap Water? http://cryptogon.com/?p=13143

Hundreds of Millions of Pounds of Pharmaceuticals LEGALLY Released Into Waterways That Provide Drinking Water: http://cryptogon.com/?p=8099

Illegal Concentrations of Arsenic, Radioactive Substances like Uranium, Dangerous Bacteria Often Found in Sewage: http://cryptogon.com/?p=12523

Via: Washington Post:

An environmental group that analyzed the drinking water in 35 cities across the United States, including Bethesda and Washington, found that most contained hexavalent chromium, a probable carcinogen that was made famous by the film “Erin Brockovich.”

The study, which will be released Monday by the Environmental Working Group, is the first nationwide analysis of hexavalent chromium in drinking water to be made public.

It comes as the Environmental Protection Agency is considering whether to set a limit for hexavalent chromium in tap water. The agency is reviewing the chemical after the National Toxicology Program, part of the National Institutes of Health, deemed it a “probable carcinogen” in 2008.

The federal government restricts the amount of “total chromium” in drinking water and requires water utilities to test for it, but that includes both trivalent chromium, a mineral that humans need to metabolize glucose, and hexavalent chromium, the metal that has caused cancer in laboratory animals.

Erin challenged the God given right of corporations to pursue profit at any cost.

Darwin recently observed that, "The fittest drink bottled water from NRA stainless steel water bottles."

Poisoning tap water drinking people in the inner city is the natural order.

Is the U.S. now a 3rd world nation?

How long before we are importing water from Shanghai springs?

gbru 12-21-2010 07:40 AM

[QUOTE=JAM;2773083]

(snip)......Maybe he is on to something with this organic lifestyle. Even his containers for food storage must be glass. He doesn't like anything plastic.

You have to do things in moderation. I think he's going to the extreme but maybe not, after reading this thread. {snip}



HaHa.....that's funny about the plastic containers Jam...

I just gave my sister-in-law a present and I took it out of the plastic container and put it in a glass one....I'm a fanatic against plastic myself.

On healthy eating I try hard....sometimes I slip like yesterday....I ate at a buffet in a small town where nothing else was much available and I ended up with a stomach ache and feeling bad all night.

The couple next to me was pigging out..... :D After they finished two plates of fried chicken....starches etc they went for the ice cream....each had a full bowl....about 5 scoops. Then they both ate a huge piece of cake.

Both of them weighed in over 250....they probably had a great night.

Some can take and some can't....I guess....:D

I'm happy that your brother is doing better.....

berlowmj2 12-21-2010 08:13 AM

assault in the dining room
 
[QUOTE=gbru;2773171]
Quote:

Originally Posted by JAM (Post 2773083)

(snip)......Maybe he is on to something with this organic lifestyle. Even his containers for food storage must be glass. He doesn't like anything plastic.

You have to do things in moderation. I think he's going to the extreme but maybe not, after reading this thread. {snip}



HaHa.....that's funny about the plastic containers Jam...

I just gave my sister-in-law a present and I took it out of the plastic container and put it in a glass one....I'm a fanatic against plastic myself.

On healthy eating I try hard....sometimes I slip like yesterday....I ate at a buffet in a small town where nothing else was much available and I ended up with a stomach ache and feeling bad all night.

The couple next to me was pigging out..... :D After they finished two plates of fried chicken....starches etc they went for the ice cream....each had a full bowl....about 5 scoops. Then they both ate a huge piece of cake.

Both of them weighed in over 250....they probably had a great night.

Some can take and some can't....I guess....:D

I'm happy that your brother is doing better.....

Buffets are suicide.

However, when I request no salt or MSG in an allegedly freshly prepared dish & get some Cysco sodium/MSG orgy, it is difficult to remain faithful to my pacifist philosophy.

iusedtoberich 12-21-2010 09:21 AM

If you guys are really serious and not just blowing smoke, then change today to a "paleolithic diet." Link to youtube video describing it is in my signature.


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