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rexus31 08-03-2019 06:32 AM

Gold Crown Barn Find
 
My buddy (@pocket) and I stumbled upon a very cool find locally. We responded to an ad on Offer Up for a Gold Crown 1 for sale in a bowling alley 3 miles from my house. Upon reading the ad, they had two for sale for $1K each. Needless to say, we went to check them out. The tables were in what used to be the bar area of the bowling alley that had been drywalled off and under construction so the owner could lease it out as a standalone commercial space. The person selling them believed they were purchased new sometime in the early to mid '60's. We found them filthy with torn cloth but were complete for the most part except for one was missing the plastic skirts. I started negotiating with the seller (who was not the owner) and he immediately said he's authorized to sell them for $500 each but can't go lower. I explained to him they have good bones but are missing some pieces and it is going to take quite a bit of work to clean them up to make them playable and offered $300 each. He countered with $400 but would need approval from the owner. The approval came in short order and we were the proud owners of a pair of Gold Crown 1's for $400 each; less than the asking price for one. Upon tear down, it became evident these table were well cared for and had only been recovered once. The original tack marks and one set of staple marks in the slate backing can be seen in one of the pics below. Judging from that and the near pristine formica rail tops and counters, it appears these table have hardly been played on in some 50+ years. Now the fun begins. We both plan to extend the sub rails, new rubber and drop pockets and a cosmetic restoration. The aprons will be sprayed Brunswick Blue; shoutout to @Xianmacx for the paint codes as well as fielding countless questions on the topic of restoration/preservation. The pedestals, stringer, ball rack box and plastic skirts will sprayed Brunswick White. My buddy plans to keep his original and will respray everything Brunswick White. Here are some pics:

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I will update with pics throughout the course of the restoration leading up to final assembly.

Bic D 08-03-2019 06:42 AM

yes, keep the updated pics coming. Good find

Buzzard II 08-03-2019 06:59 AM

I know AZ is loaded with Diamond fanboys but a well sorted Gold Crown is worthy of passing down for multiple generations. Quite a deal, I know you will be very happy.

iusedtoberich 08-03-2019 07:02 AM

Great find! Any thought to keeping the original cushions? Were you able to try if they still played well?

L I F D 1 08-03-2019 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bic D (Post 6450659)
yes, keep the updated pics coming. Good find

Yes, show and tell all the way home.
Also, let us know what you're final thoughts are to do with the GC 1. (you do know you got lucky)

Are they Pro 8, or 9?

garczar 08-03-2019 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by iusedtoberich (Post 6450665)
Great find! Any thought to keeping the original cushions? Were you able to try if they still played well?

Use 50yr old cushions? Why risk 'em being bad? Replace them.

SBC 08-03-2019 07:18 AM

Crazy finds like these are still out there.

The early Cowns are built so well. Those are in amazing shape.

logical 08-03-2019 07:23 AM

Good find. They are out there if you are patient. Before I finished my room I just wanted a cheap table in the meantime (ended up being 4-5 years) for my unfinished basement. This GC III was one of 3 GCs and some bar boxes in use at a bar near me and they were converting the area to have a live music stage. I guess at some poi t it was somewhere with at least 17 tables. My mover bought most of the rest of them once he saw what I found.

$500 and just needed new cloth and was missing trim bezel around ball box which is an easy find. I've since sold it when I upgraded the space and got all my money back after 5 years of use. I knew it was temporary so never thought about restoring. It actually had what I saw as a really nice natural patina and fit in with the unfinished room.

A GC I is a better restoration investment I think...good luck with the project.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...721dacb785.jpg

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xianmacx 08-03-2019 07:43 AM

Wow, very nice condition. Almost no staple holes in the slate...

logical 08-03-2019 07:48 AM

I thought a GC I didn't have adjustable feet? But I also kinda remember that only being true for the first few years. Regardless, nice find and good that it has them.

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iusedtoberich 08-03-2019 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by garczar (Post 6450667)
Use 50yr old cushions? Why risk 'em being bad? Replace them.

Iím not a mechanic but from what Iíve read on here none of the modern cushions will fit a GC1 properly unless the wood rail is rebeveled at the modern rail angle. Iíve also read that the original monarch cushions can last 50 years or more.

That said, I like bucket pockets, while the OP wants tight pockets. So he will need new cushions anyway, and thus new bevel angles.

It will be fun to see the progress:)

rikdee 08-03-2019 08:32 AM

I think Ken Hash sells reproduction "AR 6100" stickers.

Lawnboy77 08-03-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by iusedtoberich (Post 6450681)
Iím not a mechanic but from what Iíve read on here none of the modern cushions will fit a GC1 properly unless the wood rail is rebeveled at the modern rail angle. Iíve also read that the original monarch cushions can last 50 years or more.

That said, I like bucket pockets, while the OP wants tight pockets. So he will need new cushions anyway, and thus new bevel angles.

It will be fun to see the progress:)

I think you are absolutely right about the adjustable feet not being present on an original GC I, furthermore the rails don't have the figure 8 nut plates. It is my understanding that GC I's used figure 8's only. Not that it's a big deal though if it is a mix and match Gold Crown...still looks awesome and can be made to play perfect!

logical 08-03-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawnboy77 (Post 6450699)
I think you are absolutely right about the adjustable feet not being present on an original GC I, furthermore the rails don't have the figure 8 nut plates. It is my understanding that GC I's used figure 8's only. Not that it's a big deal though if it is a mix and match Gold Crown...still looks awesome and can be made to play perfect!

I looked deeper, they did go to adjustable on the GC I after a few years.

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maha 08-03-2019 08:48 AM

great deal for 400 dollars but still have to add in the cost of your time and cost of new parts. maybe worth it or not.


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